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What the hell is up with the Mars Volta's lyrics? I just

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What the hell is up with the Mars Volta's lyrics? I just finished listening to their entire discography and I am perplexed as to why they made such great music only to ruin it with some of the most obnoxiously stupid lyrics I've ever heard. I mean, I know that there are a lot of good bands out there with enigmatic lyrics, but other bands actually sound like the put some thought into them first. With the Mars Volta, it's like they were high as fuck doing Mad-Libs and then just decided "Hey, lets make a song out of this!"
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>>73240076
The lyrics are based mostly on what sounds good with the music iirc.
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>>73240076
its easy to ignore if you listen more
at least thats how i got over it
i stopped noticing the words over time
frances the mute (aside from cassandra gemini) doesnt have that bad lyrics imo
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they can't write for shit
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yeah dem boys definitely own a thesaurus
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most prog lyrics are awful though
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>>73240229
this. Steven Wilson makes me cringe so hard.
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EEEXOOOOSKEEELETAL JUNCTION AT THE RAILROAD DELAAAYYEEEEED
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>>73240259
what did he mean by this?
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>>73240116
>its easy to ignore if you listen more at least thats how i got over it i stopped noticing the words over time frances the mute (aside from cassandra gemini) doesnt have that bad lyrics imo

Dude, I think you have Stockholm Syndrome. This band can't be healthy for you.
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>>73240259

SHE WAS A MINK HANDJOB IN SARCOPHAGUS HEELS
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>>73240076
But the lyrics on Deloused and Frances are really good. It doesn't matter that they're essentially meaningless, they sound damn good and that's what they were going for. Post-Amputechture is when their lyrics really started to cheese up.
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>>73240333
It's just that good desu
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i've got a penis that can rip through the very fabric of time

but for real though op frances is my favourite album. it's concept and the lyrics make sense if you read into it
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>>73240398

Dude, wtf? How am I supposed to read into it when several songs alternate between cryptic lyrics and complete gibberish. Vismund Cygnus and Lvia are the worst offenders here.
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>>73240398
>i've got a penis that can rip through the very fabric of time
it's actually "ive got a pain inside" not penis, but the made it sound like penis which is really clever.

>>73240618
i don't know how anyone can hate their lyrics. it's like you have no appreciation of language
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>>73240333
well on frances i cant understand half the lyrics anyways because they're in fast spanish
and the rest really arent that bad if you know the story
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>>73240700

>i don't know how anyone can hate their lyrics. it's like you have no appreciation of language

I do have an appreciation of language. I don't appreciate the random gibberish that's inserted into the songs between coherent understandable verses. Stupid shit like 'Sanjay, sonado, da rabba nazi' just frustrates the shit out of me.
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>>73240811
>I do have an appreciation of language
>Can't recognize Spanish and calls it "gibberish"

Yep, it's b8, boys. Pack up and go home.
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>>73240915

That's Spainish? Well that made me look at things differently. I live in a Alaska, so I don't hear spainish much
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theres more than one way to write lyrics. maybe instead of being chosen because of the words explicit meaning they were chosen because of the way they sound and the feelings they evoke. I think the lyricism is fun and at times coherent but more importantly it is emotionally and musically in tune with what omar and the rest of the band plays
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>>73240915
ok but are you gonna actually argue that the mars volta has predominantly coherent lyrics?
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>>73241032

I mean coherent as in they are in English. They are still ridiculously abstract and vague.
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>>73240989
>That's Spainish? Well that made me look at things differently. I live in a Alaska
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>>73240700
>i don't know how anyone can hate their lyrics. it's like you have no appreciation of language

Pastel fragments of demented magnolias
Sense the past tense of clandestine insomnia
Rubber baby buggys bump through the cambrium
Thursday's last breath blew it's sins into bubblegum

for you, anon :)
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>>73241338
which song is that i forget
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I bet OP never saw the curse that flew right by - aw fuck i need to go back im sorry guys
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>>73240076
>>73241338
their lyrics are great dude. listen to them for the imagery, the breadth of reach, not the message
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>>73240989
What the fuck does you living in Alaska have to do with anything?
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>>73241474
There's no Spanish speakers in Alaska
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>>73240076
Apparently they made it by improvising gibberish they sourced from watching a wall of TVs set to different channels
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Wheetabix bamboozled lullaby parasols
Twisting the tongues of september through rabbit holes
Buckled knees Chucky Cheese orgies in pantomime
Blessing the bellfry with tape decks from Columbine
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>>73241443
what the fuck is the "imagery" or "breadth of reach?" these are just meaningless buzzwords or platitudes used by people to justify bad lyricism. These lyrics don't say anything, they don't evoke anything. "rubber baby buggies bump" dawg are you seriously defending this? what is a demented magnolia. How do any of these lines even work together?

there are artists who do imagery well without having very literal lyrics (I think bon iver, the national occasionally) but mars volta are not one of them.
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>>73241538

I think that guy was being sarcastic
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>>73240076
The vocals are just another instrument. Don't listen to the lyrics for the meaning, listen to the music for its meaning. The words are only there for their sounds. Listen to it like you're listening to music in a language you don't speak.
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>>73240076
2deep4u
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>>73241529
>>73240076
Some of it was also taken from cut-ups from a journal they found in a used car one of the members bought that belonged to some Mexican guy.
>>73241538
The lyrics sound good, most of them do at least. Cygnus... Vismund Cygnus especially has good ones.
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>>73241502
And I'm Australian and we have no Spanish speakers and I still got it. What's your point?
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>>73241558
hard to tell, people make that argument in 100% seriousness all the time
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>>73241701
lmao
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>>73241693

Yeah you don't live in the sprawling metropolis of Nome.
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what's some other word-salad-core?
pic related is fantastic but the lyrics make absolutely no sense
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>>73241771
Mike Patton writes his lyrics for their sounds moreso than for the literal meaning of the words.
>inb4 "egg"
>inb4 "holds up spork"
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>>73241797
the lyrics in Mr. Bungle actually make sense, though
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>>73241797
>tmv uses odd choice of words in a seemingly nonsensical way
>lmao mariachi slipknot is so lolrandom garbage word salad, pretentious ahhhhh
>whitebois do the same thing
>hey now, thats completely different. You just don't get it
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Through a black pirouette
Sudden centuries ossified
Stained the cracks through which they fled
Their colostomies gentrified
Thick temper tantrums turn sand into red rum
To soak the charred figments of newborn Ted Dansons
Shriveling traffic jams jarring the fowl
A tesseract laced with prosthetics and jowls
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>>73241764
Mate, I literally live in the fucking outback. Pic related is a pic I took from a few ways away from my house.
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>>73241875
he never said he disliked TMV's lyrics you dumbshit
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Who gives a shit? If it sounds good, don't read the lyrics along with it.
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>>73241944
kind of hard to ignore if you speak English though
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>>73242199
It's incredibly easy. Just listen to the instruments and the timbre/melody of the vocals.
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>>73241797
But when Anthony Kiedis writes lyrics for their sounds, people freak the fuck out.
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>>73241901
fair point, bungles last two albums were great too. cardiacs kinda suck though
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Simmer the frills of felt barnacle crockery
Out through his limbs on a sigh
Wishing his gills wouldn't whisper this mockery
Metatronianic in its lies
Soon seize the suede condemnation of ocelots
Bearing beige boots out of spite
Jutting yellow bandwagons filtering their blood clots
As the viscous tendrils ignite
Caca muerte bolero, la barba celosa
La mosca del melón suave como el terciopelo
Codo de plata, humilde patata
Once dudar de las pendejos
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>>73240076
I always thought lyrically it sounded like they were doing almost like a tongue in cheek parody of old prog songwriting.

But a lot of times I think it's just whatever strange sounding words sound good/weird strung together in a row.
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>>73242487
That's because RHCP's sounds are ass and the words he writes are dumb in a boring, buttman kind of way.
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>>73240398
my nigga
also
THE KIOSK IN MY TEMPORAL LOBE IS SHAPED LIKE ROSALYNN Carter
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>>73240076
>Mars Volta
>great music
pick one
Fucking pretentious nonsense. These dilettantes take the cake I swear to god. Wow. Omar essentially just plays bluesy boring wankery - pentatonic scale shit - with some weird shit mixed in. Then something that approximates to Spanish music, which is nothing like actual Spanish music. Add in a bunch of pedals to obfuscate the fact the nothing makes sense. Cedric is fucking gay as shit. Probably literally has sucked cocks before. Though I guess that was all the rage in the kind of "am I bi? who knowsSsS tehe" post-hardcore scene of leftist faggotry. Oven these guys, for real. Stupid rich kid punk rockers.
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>>73242984
you sound like a true punk rocker bro. You read breitbart?
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>>73242984
Excellent critique. You should write for P4k, I bet you'd fit right in :^)
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>>73242984
>>>/p4k/
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>>73242984
>Obfuscate mixed post-rich kid bluesy nothing
>Pentatonic rage in the kind
>Oven these pedals to approximate probably
>These dilettantes take the cake in a bunch

IDK... sounds like a mars Volta lyric to me. Anon confirmed for being a cock sucking leftist?
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>>73243133
Brutal fucking murder!
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>>73240229
>>73240253
You need some Peter Hammill.
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>>73243133

lololololol
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>>73240229
to be fair, 95% of all lyrics are awful
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>>73240076
I actually enjoy trying to figure out whatever the fuck is trying to be conveyed by the lyrics. I realize that not all of their songs are coherent, but there are some that hint at bits of narrative or create a vivid emotion or image. The word choice also reinforces an occult-like vibe that sets them apart for me. They also make for great shitposts.
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>>73240076
I have heard this album several times and I cannot recite any lyrics for the life of me.
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>>73244410
>THIS NEVER HAAAPPEEEEENED, BUT I SAW YOU LEEEAVE
>WHO DO YOU TRUUUUUUST
>NO THERES NO LIGHT

there are so many memorable lyrical moments gotdam bruh
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>>73240076
le drug
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>>73243133
fucking kek'd and check'd, anon
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>>73240989
gawd pls no. Tell me youre being sarcastic anon i beg you
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>>73244625

I think I've becum one of the others
aaaaaaaaaaaaa
oooooooooooh
oaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
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Cassandra Gemini is such a rad song from that album.

I used to think Cedric Bixler's lyrics were some serious tangential off the wall genius, but now I listen to a bunch of it and it sounds so cringeworthy. Remember an interview or something where he explained how a lot of the time though he puts a bigger emphasis on creating phonetic sounds and combinations that sound interesting in tandem with the music, and less on coherency. So there are threads of stories in his stuff but I think he's mostly being an autist and throwing paint at the wall.

I haven't listened to Volta in a long time but goddamn, I was so into them from 2008 to 2011 or so. Saw them twice and they murdered it live. Gonna see atdi next weekend and we'll find out what that's like.
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>>73240353
I've got a penis that can rip through the very fabric of time!
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>>73244625
FREEZE WITHOUT AN ANSWER
FREE FROM ALL THE SHAME
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>>73240259
>>73240353
>>73242982
>>73247480

What's with caps-lock on all the lyrics? Was Billy Mays the lead singer or something?
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>>73242984
Your argument for why you hate the mars Volta
>Cedric's possible sexuality
>Omar plays a scale every now and then
>they use pedals
>they're weird
>Mexican musicians make music that sounds Mexican
>they have blues influences just like all rock bands

>>73247551
It feels like that sometimes
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Baseballs mangled in tangled torrents
Ice cream headaches & serial killer warrants
Houses sliding sharply in spangled ovens
Christians finger bang in occult covens
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>>73240353
Dude, 100% my favorite line off Frances. The whole song is nothing but metaphors for fucking
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>>73243133
Confirmed!
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>>73242982
SHE SAID MY MAP IS HOME AGAIN BUT TALKS FACE DOWN
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>>73242984
>thinking homophobia is hip
You must be over 18 to post on this website

captcha: nagger entrance
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"Look at how they flock to him
From an isle of open sores
He knows that the taste is such
Such to die for
And I hear him every night
On every street
The scales that do slither
Deliver me from?
Freeze without an answer
Free from all the shame
Then I'll hide
'Cause I'll never never sleep alone
Oh Lord
Said I'm bloodshot for sure"
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>>73244410
25 wives in the lake tonight, raw bark in the water of the marble shrine
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>>73240229
>>73243885
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwFYy_Th7BA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfgD3LJ6Xb8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89g1P_J40JA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzL-up4ZKgI

simple =/= bad

Unless you mean close to the edge, that's pretty much vocal wankery
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>>73240811
Excellent bait, friendo ;)
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>>73241533
chuckle'd
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>>73242984
Thank you for posting this.
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>>73242984
>pentatonic scale shit with some weird shit mixed in
your life must be very sad
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>>73240811
>Stupid shit like 'Sanjay, sonado, da rabba nazi'

Oh god...

Maybe it's just a cheap bait, but in any case he says "Sangre, sonando, de rabia nací"
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>>73249431
Those lyrics are way better than ''Sangre, sonando, de rabia nací'' and you know it
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>>73241538
you have yet to explain why it's "bad lyricism," other than because "it don't get it!"
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>>73249674
Glacial half leg automaton forceps
Shake salt on the snails that envelop your doorsteps
The candy-colored breathing of moths drape the vowels
Of gingerbread lepracy wearing the cowls
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>>73240353
AFTER ALL WE CAME UNDONE
PAIR OF SLUTS WHOA NOW THAT'S FUN
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>>73247551
all lyrics are automatically better when you yell them loudly
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>>73249863
you have yet to explain why it's "bad lyricism"
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>>73249301
No.
>>73242984
Fuck you for posting this.
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>>73251127
>"it don't get it!"
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>>73249674
>>73251127

You wanna know why it's bad lyricism? Ok. I'll tell you. This band is the worst bunch of try-hards that I've ever seen. They take about every prog rock cliche there is and mix them around and throw in a few atonal guitar riffs and call it original. Have you ever heard an arpeggio? I guess not because every other fucking song has arpeggios; tedious arpeggios everywhere! This isn't fucking Beethoven's 9th Symphony dipshits! Oh, and by the way, people don't like paying for an album that's 50% animal noises and environmental bullshit thrown in as filler so they don't have to write so much. If we wanted to hear that we'd just go outside and listen to frogs croaking and not have to pay a cent to do it. And another thing, just because you have the artist, Storm Thorgerson, who did Pink Floyd's album art doesn't suddenly make you the next Pink Floyd. You may draw some inspiration from Pink, but Pink Floyd was actually fun to listen too, even during the weird moments. Speaking of which, just because you throw some weird shit into your tracks like slurping sounds, some guy talking through vocorder about getting a hand job, a chorus of high pitched falsettos, some church choir singing in the background, a song about how you want to kill the president, or some lame ass story about how your album was inspired by a knockoff Ouija board that some Jew probably over charged you for when you were in Jerusalem, doesn't suddenly make you any more original or profound. You might as just auto tune everything too, because who's going to notice when you can't go a single fucking verse without some fucking distortion effect being applied to the voice! You know what though, I could forgive all that, if their lyrics weren't a boring, pretentious string of words and portmanteaus thrown together in a way that vaguely resembles a narrative in a blatantly transparent attempt to sound profound and artistic.
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>>73251906
this is a solid argument
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>>73251201

How dare he have an opinion!
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>>73251906
rofl
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THE CRAB BORROWED AN OPEN HAND
LOOK HOW THEY CRAWL TO HIM
KNEE DEEP KNEE DEEP
OUT THE LOOKING GLASS
FOUR SCOPE NEW EARTH WAYS
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KNIFE ME IN
HOBBLING
TALKING IN ITS SLEEP AGAIN
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The Melvins kinda do the same thing
I think it's pretty cool, since i don't really focus on the lyrics for that kinda of music anyway

I wonder how the hell the singer can remember all the lyrics when they don't make any sense though
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IN THE END THEY JUST GAGGED ME TO MAKE YOU COME OUT
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>>73251906
Get a load of this fag
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