>"I will give a 10 to the first rock album that can match

Days of Future Passed

>>73152709
Bloodsugarsexmagic

Live/Dead

Faust
Daydream Nation
Tago Mago

>>73152709
What instrument does he play again?

>>73152791
>daydream nation
Not even close kiddo, also you posted the third best can album

>>73152765
Second

>>73152794

>muh instruments

go to bed granpda

the art music world has moved beyond traditional instruments

>>73152791

>Faust
9.5/10
>Daydream Nation and Tago Mago
8/10

>>73152732

lol

>>73152765

8/10

>>73152807
>implying

>>73152838
Yes I can go to scaruffi.com too

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Queen II was like classical but better.

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>Pic related

Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom
Soft Machine - Third
Klaus Schulze - X
Bjork - Homogenic
Mercury Rev -Deserters Songs
Sufjan Stevens - Age of Adz
Sufjan Stevens - Illinois
Radiohead - In Rainbows

He will give TMR 10 on his deathbed, 10 is a "best ever" for him, he cant give it a 10 if he hasnt listened as much albums as he can

>>73153214
>bjork
>sufjan
You make me physically sick

>>73152709
Emerson, Lake & Palmer- Pictures at an Exhibition

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>>73153302
>Emerson, Lake & Palmer

>>73153271
Honestly if you "can't get" Homogenic or Age of Adz, You have shit taste and I don't take you're opinion seriously. Also you should give up on listening to music with electronics apparently

>>73153419
Neither of those albums is "deep", pleb.

>>73153449
Yes they are. Lmao, pls stop you're embarrassing yourself

>>73153188
Unironically this

>>73153481
Ok kid

Besides Live/Dead, I'd say the Velvet Underground and Nico.

What's Scaruffi's favorite album? It's not TMR, he's not a pseud.

>>73152709
Faust's s/t already does this well enough

TMR would do it if it were a better album in itself and not only good by rock's standards

>>73153591
black saint and the sinner lady

>>73153271
it's not that bad of an opinion honestly, the only context a person would have this serious of a problem with those kinds of artists is if they persistently web crawl in contrarian environments like this korean semen tasting image board

>>73153520
I'm 21 but ok. Go back and listen to those albums when you are ready. I'm not gonna put you down, but fuck it's embarrassing I share this board with plebeian scum like you.


All I have to say about Homogenic and Age of Adz is that they found ways to structure "pop" oriented songs in a very progressive manner and sound almost like prophetic visions. They both sequence electronic drum patterns and kit sounds to perfection (This coming from me: a drummer, piano player, vocalist). Not to mention how spiritual and metaphorical the lyrics are on both these albums as they express ideas of a society that has gotten way out of touch with love and acceptance as the end goal of a nonstop human struggle to understand pain.

Also, Bjork is probably the greatest vocalist in the history of pop, and Sufjan is the most melodic vocalists since Brian Wilson

Shut the fuck up Piero you Italian piece of transcendentalist-wannabe shit.

How about you review a pizza instead amirite guys

>>73153481
you lost any weight you had with your point with this post
>>73153672
>I'm 21 but ok
dude..

>>73153672
this is >>73153688 again but I will say you at least have good reasons to defend your opinion in this, not that opinions always need defending but still

>>73153688
Oh I get it, you're 15. And you're baiting. My bad for falling for you're bs plebeian

>>73153716
Thanks. But people shouldn't have to validate why they like something so much without getting bitched at. Even if it's fucking 21 Pilots, at least you enjoy music.

>>73153720
I'm not >>73153271 >>73153449 >>73153520

You're making way too much of an effort to be condescending

>>73153672
>sound like prophetic visions
You clearly have no idea how to discuss music, you don't know theory and can't even write. No wonder you think mediocre musicians have made meaningful contributions.

Spirit of Eden

>>73153824
>you don't know theory and can't even write
now you've gone and lost any weight of your argument

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>>73153183
>he unironically likes Queen

>>73153824
Bruh I write music. I know theory. I play 4 instruments. But go ahead and judge me. Judge the fuck outta me. I'll be on stage one day and you'll be living with you're mum at 28 still eating her homemade pancakes

>>73153969

>He doesn't like Queen

>>73153912
Yeah, man, knowing music theory is illogical whendiscussing music, right? Let's describe the music with vague metaphors instead and terminology pulled out of our ass.

>>73153824
Also, in my opinion they do sound prophetic. I believe there are musicians out there that are actually prophets. No joke, but go ahead and tell me my opinion is invalid for me. Go right ahead

>>73153593
TMR?

>>73154010
You're an atheist huh?

Faggot

>>73154017
I think you've read too much Scaruffi, a bad writer, and now you fancy yourself an intellectual for describing music in vague term that no one can understand. What do Sufjan Stevens and Björk prophesize exactly? Keep in mind, a prophecy is something startlingly precise.

>>73153183
gr8 b8

pet sounds, ok computer, close to the edge, revolver, etc.

>>73154123
>startlingly precise
No it isn't. It is a frequent theme in Greek, Roman and other literature where prophecies were vague enough to be misinterpreted leading to tragedy. Don't talk down to people and their writing if you are this bad yourself.

>>73154123
>he's read too much scaruffi
>he likes sufjan and björk
pick one

>>73153969
only contrarians hate queen desu

>>73153649
he does put classical pieces above it though, so you could make an argument for any album with those pieces

>he thinks TMR is almost as good as the masterpieces of classical and jazz
This is the lesson we should all take away from this

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He's basically stopped reviewing music to run his technology conferences and shitpost about books he doesn't like. Does this mean rock is over?

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>>73154330
He does. I forget where the list is because his website is shit, but he had a list of the best albums of the 20th century from all genres of music and TMR was something like #6.

>>73154367
I think its great that he put this on his website
really makes you think

>>73154077
>You're an atheist huh?
>Faggot
Not even him, but how did you possibly deduce that? And what's even going on in this thread?

>>73154123
They both spread the same message. The same one prophets have been sending for ages.

Unless our society and the leaders of the free (and not so free) world come together with acceptance of beliefs and love, we will continue to struggle. Roger Waters said it best on his new album. After WWll, we could have all come together with love, but we as a democratic world chose a materialistic approach to dealing with the pain, rather than actually healing through art, expression, and conversation. There are many messages from both these artists, but they both illustrate the struggles that we as a society (and within ourselves) need to overcome before moving on in the next life or to experience complete transcendence. Sometimes one song at a time (Now That I'm Older, Stonemilker, Death With Dignity, No Shade in the Shadow of the Cross, Human Behaviour, Quicksand, etc.) all their songs on their biggest albums (except Illinois and Post) have clear moral stories of overcoming a struggle. It's the empathetic emotion of "being there" for somebody's struggle, that helps everyone accept and understand one another and to help try to understand our purpose of being on this planet. But that purpose isn't even seen, unless we actually work on our problems and insecurities.

That's pretty prophetic to me. But fuck, it's more important than "whether it's prophetic or not" it's just important to acknowledge what these artists truly aim for

>>73154367

Holy shit this list is awful

Robert Wyatt rock bottom is so bad, velvet underground too

>>73154367
I've posted this in chart threads with no one noticing it's Scaruffi's list

>pink
>pink
>pink
>pink
>pink moon

>>73154367
I unironically like Scruffy's taste a lot. What do?

>>73154572
you have shit taste

>>73152709
The Beatles: SPLHCB

>>73154648
Nothing. He has good taste. Only a contrarian like >>73154572 would suggest most of those albums aren't good.

>>73153503
ironically this

>>73154821
That says alot for someone who started off working with computers btw.

>>73154648
his taste is good. he just writes like a retard and is incredibly full of himself.

>>73154871
Yeah, that sounds about right.

Deathspell Omega - Paracletus, The Synarchy of Molten Bones
Gorguts - Pleiades' Dust, Colored Sands, Obscura
Opeth - Ghost Reveries, Damnation, Pale Communion, Sorceress
Yes - Close To The Edge

These albums are all objectively on par or better than the Jazz and Classical masterpieces.

>>73152838
>the art music world has moved beyond traditional instruments

What kind of music does he compose?

>>73153183
Queen I is a 10/10. Queen II is 9/10.

I admit that rock is bad and for children that haven't refined their tastes and we discuss those genres.

>>73153371
>Jazz is deeper because the wank comes from their soul

>Most significant works of music 1950-1990
>1. Shostakovic: Symphony No 15 (1971) [classical]
>2. Karlheinz Stockhausen: Gesang der Junglinge (1956) [classical]
>3. Charles Mingus: The Black Saint And The Sinner Lady (1963) [jazz]
>4. Boulez: Repons (1980) [classical]
>5. Carter: Symphony of Three Orchestras (1977) [classical]
>6. Ligeti: Double concerto (1972) [classical]
>7. Captain Beefheart: Trout Mask Replica (1969) [rock]
>8. Lutoslawski: Sinfonia 3 (1983) [classical]
>9. John Coltrane: A Love Supreme (1964) [jazz]
>10. Part: Tabula rasa (1977) [classical]
By his own logic Trout Mask is a 10/10.

>>73152709
Pick any Beatles album.

>>73155654
kek

>>73152838
Oh OK

How long has he been studying music theory?

>>73155558
wew I didn't know he ranked TMR above A Love Supreme

>>73155735
this is the worst opinion i've ever heard

>>73155854
TMR is better than A Love Supreme, though

>>73155441
>Jazz is deeper because the wank comes from their soul
Let me guess, you only listen to true masters like Grimes and Death Grips?

>>73155918
Explain how Emerson Lake & Palmer is wank and Charles Mingus is not.

>le soul is deep because Jazz

>the second most significant work of music 1950-1990, as ranked by Scruffy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1Psx24n3rM

At the drive in - relationship of command

>>73152838
I don't think any serious muscian will ever move past "real instruments"

>>73156303
>Explain how Emerson Lake & Palmer is wank and Charles Mingus is not
>>73155918
This was my first post here. I'm not who you think you are. Sure, ELP had some horrible albums, but their first 4 albums are great. I don't think I can convince you that anything other than ABA form of pop songs is anything other than wank though.

>>73156780
*Who you think I am

>>73155558
>Stockhausen that high
/classical/ told me he's hack. So he's actually great?

>>73152732
You joke but he gave RHCP's first two albums 7/10, higher than most mu core.

>>73156805

/classical/ is a bunch of plebs that don't like anything after the 19th century. Stockhausen is fantastic.

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>73152709
i hate when people talk about classical music as another genre. Its not, jazz and rock belong to the popular music category, classical is whole different category, just like ethnic belongs to traditional.

>>73154648
its quite good. but what most dont realize is that people only like his taste because while you might not like all of the albums in his top 100, the ones that you do happen to be your favorites.

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>>73152709

>>73152709
>"I will give a 10 to the first rock album that can match the masterpieces of classical and jazz"
>"by MY OWN standards"
what a fucking clown. does anyone take him seriously at this point?

>>73152709

If he didn't give a 10 to Uncle Meat or Trout Mask Replica, he's not going to give a 10 to any rock album.

>>73157777
quads confirm

>>73157859
>>73157859
this, if he didn't found his rock 10/10 on the 70's or the 90's then is not going to happen

>>73152709
Where does he actually say this?

What does Conan O'Brien have to do with music?

>>73154415
I LOVE YOU SO
WON'T YOU PLEASE COME HOME

he says this yet TMR is like his third favorite piece of music ever written, trumping many "masterpieces" in jazz and classical music

>>73153188
bruh he got some big nips

>>73159453
False.

See Most Significant list on this page
http://www.scaruffi.com/jazz/best100.html

>>73154417
I like this post

>>73153855
No, Laughing stock

>>73152732
I love that album to death but I wouldn't put it as high as academically labeled classical and jazz "masterpieces"

>>73152791
>not future days

>>73159559
No, Spirit of Eden

>>73152709
he's right

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>>73153520

>>73152709
He'll probably give TMR the 10 on his deathbed. He's just waiting or the end of his life to make a claim like 'the greatest rock album ever'.

>soundtracks for the blind
>down colorful hill
>trout mask
>ege bamyasi

I feel like his first ten will be something totally unexpected, like one day out of the blue he gives Painting With or Common As Light a 10

I love all of the avant-teen / scaruffi classics like TMR, Tago Mago, modern dance, etc but I don't understand the love for faust s/t

It's good, but why do people but it on such a fucking pedestal?

>>73153998
>>73154318
>>>/reddit/

>>73160677
t. contrarian

>>73160710
>you don't like shit normie music
must be a contrarian

>>73160737
you can dislike it, but hating it and calling everyone who likes it a redditor is contrarian

>>73160762
you can be a pleb, but don't get all butthurt when people call you out on it

you pleb

>>73160778
t. contrarian who's butthurt that people like a band he doesn't like

>>73160794
you don't belong here. /r/music seems more your speed.

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>>73160801
I'm sorry that the mere thought of people liking a popular band triggers you this hard, anon
you should go back to tumblr, I heard they're more accepting there

>>73152794
>muh instruments

>critiquing movies
>'hey mister, what films have you made'

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>>73152709
Ye I can

>>73155558
the lack of ellington here is a crime if he 'claims' to enjoy jazz...

>>73154871
I hate how he randomly inserts classical lingo into his articles.
>Song X is a gorgeous madrigal...
Like no, it's not a madrigal. It's a rock song.

>>73160820
songwriting and playing instruments are ridiculously more accessible than making a movie. you're making a false equivalence

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>>73160819
>you should go back to tumblr, I heard they're more accepting there
you heard wrong

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Disappointed no one's posted the one most obvious answer.

>>73160878
skinny hands is fucking trash
F sharp is the right answer

>>73160894
Feel like they're both pretty acceptable, but Skinny Fists is the most well known

>>73153249
This.

>>73160878
it's on the level of a Bruckner symphony, which isn't much of a compliment

>>73153978
He's probably baiting, don't waste your time arguing with him.

>>73153214
>Soft Machine - Third
>Klaus Schulze - X
>Bjork - Homogenic
>Mercury Rev -Deserters Songs
>Sufjan Stevens - Age of Adz
>Sufjan Stevens - Illinois
>Radiohead - In Rainbows
all shit

Idunno, Rust In Peace?

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/piero-scaruffi-beatles-commentary?full=1

>>73154417
>Unless our society and the leaders of the free (and not so free) world come together with acceptance of beliefs and love, we will continue to struggle.
fucking lmao

yeah you're 21 all right

>>73152709
Scaruffi is such a fucking idiot.

>>73160878
>>73160916
Both wrong.

>>73161200
yo mama a fucking hoe n idiot bitch

>>73153214
Whooooaaaaaa remove Björk and all below it off the list eewwwwwwww

>>73153188
underrated