The hip-hop scene is incredibly boring these days. Nothing big

>>73094586
it's been uninspired since Lauryn Hill and Mos Def where forced to retire desu

Dumb frog poster

>>73094586
Kanye hasn't gone anywhere

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>>73094586
hip hop is fake as fuck now.

Ought to be called soros hop.

>>73094640
yeah, he's just battling 'dehydration'.

>dumb frog poster
>kanye is good
>"nothing is happening in hip hop"

fuck off ignorant fucktard troll

>>73094667
but he's right Schlomo

>>73094586
hip hop is only boring if you only look at the front of billboard

hip hop has a lot of diversity right now, more than it probably ever has. you just gotta look for what you like.

>>73094793
Yeah! We have
-mumble rap
-trap
-Kanye
-music where the guy is rapping about drugs and women
-rappers trying to be rock
The list goes on

>>73094793
diversity?

Like various forms of Israeli puppets?

>>73094873
>>73094850
Are you only capable of listening to top 40 music? Lose a bet or something?

>>73094945
What should I be checking out?

>>73094969
cute babby :)

I'm guessing hip hop should've just stopped after Atrocity Exhibition? Either that or it should stop after Quazarz

>>73094969
The whole High Focus label, Masta Ace, Jonwayne had a pretty good album, Aesop Rock, tens of other artists I'm forgetting. Wiley if you're into Grime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44Zvdaa5eWc

It's kinda sad how hip-hop became so generic and boring.
Most of rappers hate what they do. Hip-Hop now is just a easy way for teenagers and college dropouts to get rich and famous.

>>73095017
All those things are shit

>>73095035


>Most of rappers hate what they do
>Hip-Hop now is just a easy way for teenagers and college dropouts to get rich and famous.

amazes me that someone can have such a stupid opinion

>>73094989
?

>>73095017
will look into. Masta Ace has been around forever though. I remember listening to 'Born to Roll" 20 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsIiwHHiT3o

>>73095083
Yeah it's crazy how he hasn't fell off yet. Similar to Ras Kass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJksTRgY8-c

>>73095097
>Sony
>stupid Eric Garner bullshit
>Affiliated with (((Chance the Rapper)))

this is EXACTLY what I'm talking about.

Not interested in any shit like this.

>>73095139
did eric garner deserve to die?

>>73095160
he died because he was breaking the law, resisted arrest, and was 100+ pounds overweight.

End of story.

>>73095160
He deserved prison at least

>>73094850
>Implying Young Thug isnt the greatest thing to happen to hip hop

>>73095179
fat genocide NOW

>>73095139
so... you want music about pussy, money, drugs or what? I'm assuming you're also a white 20-something year old? Give us an example of what you're into then.

Maybe you'll like this one, unless talking about water being a basic human right is too normie for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-4KiszXxHM

>>73095197
I'm implying that yeah

dude have you even been paying attention, this year has been GOAT. kendrick blindsides us with DAMN, amazing albums from great artists like oddisee, goldlink, roc marciano, not nas droog- plus, vince staples' new album drops soon. So much good shit going on for hip hop right now

modern day hip hop always misses the mark for me it strikes me as the kind of genre that *should* be great, but there are so few albums that nail the sense of excitement that I want it to provide.

>Kanye came close, but the mastering of MBDTF is just bad
>Atrocity Exhibition was technically good, but lacking in the full force of experimentation that I would like it to have achieved
>TPAB is brilliant, but it seems to get lost in its own jazziness and loses its way at points
>The Money Store is too brash, it fails to be all-encompassing and accessible enough for me to consider it a masterpiece (pretty much goes for any DG album)

In fact, there is literally NO hip hop magnum opus yet:

>Madvillainy is too lo-fi and lacklustre
>Illmatic has insane production, but the straightforward kick-snare boom-bap style is too basic
>The Infamous is probably one of my favourites, but the lyrics are just "muh hustling extorting crackheads" on every track
>Ready To Die is far too sexually focused and and lacks any sort of substance, Biggie tries to compensate by killing himself at the end to add some semblance of "depth" but it just comes across as extremely out of place
>The Low End Theory is again really basic, fans of it are way to caught up in "muh live instrumentation" and fail to recognise that all it has going for it is its sensual sound
>Black On Both Sides is brilliant, but Mos Def's delivery is annoyingly cheesy at points
>36 Chambers has terrible production, bland musical ideas
>Liquid Swords has terrible production, bland musical ideas

there are no perfect 10 hip hop albums. I'm still waiting on someone to release one. I had hope for Kendrick but not so sure after DAMN.

>>73095285
Worst post of 2017 contender?

>>73094644
XD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDqLzZmsius
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDyeGMrbogE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbvQsFrTRxU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXtl9IuVPOE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DglxPGLxJPQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxinGFri13s

All from this year

These guys are about to blow the fuck up. They met on a forum online.
https://youtu.be/PMZZUyos1kI

>>73095079
I'm just being realistic.

All these new rappers don't care about the music.

Yachty is trash and he knows it ... Lil Uzi is a cringy rockstar wannabe. Kodak is a Chief Keef 2.0. I don't even wanna talk about these lil pump, lil peep, Ugly God etc.

The old heads like Drake or Kendrick went mainstream so i don't except much from them.

If there is out there good and passionate rappers who care about the art we will probably never hear of them because Hip-Hop is saturated with trash rappers.

>>73095331
Damn this shit good.

>>73095219
I'm fucking 40 dude.

I'm more than fine with real social commentary.

I'm not fine with Soros issued bullshit.

For instance, listen to what someone w/ actual credibility like KRS-One says about black and police relations.

He said 'Blacks are at fault for treating Police like shit'

KRS-One is KNOWN. He has actual credibility.

Now who the fuck is Isaiah Rashad? Who the fuck is Chance the Rapper?

They came out of nowhere. They have no history.

>>73095357
Are you actually 40 and believe the Soros stuff?Damn dawg

I SPY WITH MY LIL EYE

>>73095285
Everything you said about those classics is completely baffling, especially about the Wu-Tang albums. Terrible production and bland musical ideas? From peak RZA?

And Black on Both Sides, while good, isn't anywhere near the calibre of the rest of the albums you listed.

>>73095331
seen these guys around. strikes me as nu-injury reseve. Hopefully these guys'll do better

>>73095285
the mastering of MBDTF...?

can you expand on that?

>>73095377
fuck off Schlomo.

It's 100% real and everyone kn ow it.

I don't trust any music coming out on a public company right now, and anyone w/ half a brain shouldn't either.

>>73095385
BOBS is one of the best hiphop albums ever. The fuck are you talking about?

>>73095349
i mean, lil yachty makes music for black kids and white stoners to bump in their car. I don't think that necessarily means he doesn't care about the music, just that his style is meant for something else

>>73095419
I'm not your therapist, I don't want to hear about your paranoia.

>>73095445
fuck off Schlomo

you fool no one

Go put another rapper in a dress or something.

>>73094667
Look at all the interesting stuff happening in hip-hop like nigger #1 talking about money, women, and hood life over a simple house/funk beat in addition to nigger #2 talking about more money, more women, more hood life, AND how he da bayst at rappin' over a simple house/funk beat.

>>73095349
>The old heads like Drake or Kendrick went mainstream

Drake was the definition of mainstream from day one, and saying that Kendrick went mainstream makes no sense– he released TPAB after his breakthrough.

>>73095431
I don't know what you hear in it. It's very good, but it stops short of being a classic.
>>73095464
Are you talking about the producer Schlohmo or are you just using the weirdest inoffensive insult you can think of?

>>73094945
Nigger rap is top 40 once removed lol.

>>73095484
Are you trying to say that Kendrick isn't mainstream? He's very similar to Beyonce but less successful because he isn't also a model.

>>73095484
>Kendrick went mainstream makes no sens
are you fucking serious.

Fuck off you Israeli disinfo shill

>>73095507
Since you want to talk about politics, who did you vote for and how do you justify the fact that they're an Israeli asslicker?

>>73095505
Kendrick is popular but he's making the music he wants to make regardless of his popularity. If he were capitulating to pop pressures, he'd have way more features than just Rihanna and U2.

>>73095507
You might want to call your psychiatrist, your paranoia is getting out of control again

>>73095523
didn't vote

>>73095532
you still don't fool anyone

>>73095548
Lmao at least go write someone in. You're acting like an edgy teen

>>73095431
'''they're''' still mad at Mos for naming the Jew on "The Rape Over".


Like how he was just totally coincidentally detained in South Africa during the election cycle.

>>73095548
imagine being so paranoid that you believe jews are harassing you on an anonymous chinese cartoon message board

>>73095590
Yep. Funny how all the rappers who went against their agenda suddenly 'retired'

or worse :(

>>73095548
Lol dude I say that I don't think Kendrick is mainstream like Drake and suddenly I'm an Israeli disinformation agent with strong opinions about American hip-hop

>>73095357
Fuck off grandpa, you're clueless.

>>73095608
yep, I'm sooooooooo paranoid.

I'll just leave this here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa8pM6_HXpU

>>73095628
Kendrick Lamar is on Vivendi SA and gets name dropped by people like Barry Soetoro. It doesn't get more mainstream than that. Fuck off.

>>73095285
Give me 3 rock magnum opus you ignorant palermo phillisteu

you have zero musical knowledgement
you're an ameba with no talent

bow dow and kiss the king

>>73095628
Kendrick Lamar has been in a fucking Taylor Swift song

>>73095719
Oh shit I've seen you on comment on Youtube. You're the dadrap fan with like 5 thousand vinyl records, eh? What a retard.

>>73095695
>>73095719
There's a difference between being popular and shooting for the mainstream. Drake wasn't ruined by Meek Mill's ghostwriting accusations, but Kendrick would be. Drake is a pop star, Kendrick is a rap star.

I'm not saying that Kendrick isn't mainstream, I'm saying that the idea that he 'went' mainstream to chase more money at the expense of his music is very wrong.

>>73095719
It's funny that these '''shills''' actually try and peddle their OBVIOUS bullshit.

>>73095770
Drake and Kendrick are the same fake phony bullshit Israeli puppet rap. You fool absolutely no one.

(and they've both probably literally sucked dick to get where they are)

>>73094586
Steroids (Crouching Tiger Hidden Gabber Megamix) tho

>>73095787
>>73095805

You do realize that Kendrick raps about black people needing to stand up and change things themselves, right? Not white devils? Or are you letting the paranoia get to you again?

>>73095079
What he means to say is I don't think we should always expect the older generation to put out quality, but it does seem like we have hit some sort of weird time in hip-hop. The closest thing I can put it with is like when hair metal dominates everything or nu metal.
That's how it feels right now.

>>73095825
kendrick is about as fake as it gets. raps about how ethnicity doesn't matter but he only cares about black people. tells black people to blame whitey instead of improving themselves. violence is bad unless i say it in a rap song. he's there to make sure any "smart" black people stay under control as a slave.

>>73095805
Yeah because Drake talks about politics oh so much.

If I had a nickel for every time I saw the words Shlomo, shill, and bait in this thread, id have enough money to buy you all anger management classes
Who gives a shit where the music comes from its very easy to ignore if you don't go out of your way to get mad over it

>>73095713
kek.

>>73095901
>Who gives a shit where the music comes
this is what fake ass media and their fake ass rappers want you to believe in 2017.

Hip Hop has ALWAYS cared.

These fake as rappers have no credibility in their own hoods. (if they're even really from where they say they are)

>>73095939
And that matters because...?

>>73095939
you a

a) faggot trying to troll the youth (thats your only one uplifiting moment in your day)

b) idiot from philippines brainwashed by internet sensationalists

>>73095879
He says literally the opposite of what you're saying.

>Shit don't change until you get up and wash yo' ass, nigga - Institutionalized

>So why did I weep when Trayvon Martin was in the street when gang banging make me kill a nigga blacker than me?
Hypocrite! - The Blacker the Berry

>Ain't nothin' new, but a flu of new Demo-Crips and Re-Blood-licans
Red state versus a blue state, which one you governin'?
They give us guns and drugs, call us thugs
Make it they promise to fuck with you
No condom, they fuck with you, Obama say, "What it do?" - Hood Politics

>Everybody want to talk about who this and who that
Who the realest and who wack, or who white or who black
Critics want to mention that they miss when hip hop was rappin'
Motherfucker, if you did, then Killer Mike'd be platinum
Y’all priorities fucked up, put energy in wrong shit
Hennessy and Crown Vic, my memory been gone since - Hood Politics

>How many leaders you said you needed then left ‘em for dead?
Is it Moses, is it Huey Newton or Detroit Red?
Is it Martin Luther, JFK, shoot or you assassin
Is it Jackie, is it Jesse, oh I know, it’s Michael Jackson, oh - Mortal Man

The album is about being black in 2015, not about how bad white people are. The album doesn't even offer any actual solutions other than "We have to stop the violence and crime," it's basically an hour-long think piece on black culture from somebody actually in it.

>>73096002
are you going to keep this up all day Schlomo?

Nah, Kanye's never been on the forefront of hip hop innovation in structure and formula.

The real problem is in fact hip hop's inability to really change.

Let's look at mumble rap/trap. Theoretically this stuff should be opening hip hop up to new opportunities. Deconstructing the concept of flow so it doesn't have to just be a straightforward approach at percussive vocals? Production that both ups the intensity of the music while also having the potential to be more complex due to amount/variety of rhythms? Very cool. But instead, on one end you have the guys that make this music that water these ideas down into a more easily digestable pop format. On the other hand you have talented guys that can do a lot with such ideas, but look down on these developments so they make the same old shit instead.

Guys like Kanye and Death Grips are great, but they experiment more with what's already in hip hop rather than pushing it forward.

>>73094586
It's been dead since 2012.

>>73095314
shut the fuck up you fucking faggot get the fuck out of this page right now

>>73095035
The fact is for the most part there's a hell of a lot going on that you just don't know about or aren't a part of. If you honestly think Jaguar Pyramids/Czarquan/Tony Seltzer, Dj Lucas, Secret Circle/Bedwetter, Westside Gunn/Conway, Jeremiah Jae, Ka/Roc Marciano and Knxwledge all sound the same then you're genuinely retarded.

>>73095219
>I'm assuming you're also a white 20-something year old

literally everyone on 4chan
also

>male

>>73094586

You'll get out of your Kanye obsession soon and realize there's way better artists worth listening to

>>73094586
>implying Kanye isn't to blame for influencing half of these new motherfuckers

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>>73095285
you forgot

>>73095939
it doesn't matter where the music comes from because its shit
if somebody throws shit on your car window are you going to dissect it and say "hmm this clearly came from a person with personality traits a, b, and c"?

>>73095416
that's a bad post but he's right on that point, mbdtf is mastered horribly, a lot of errors left in, clipping, samples cut off, very muddled instruments on a lot of tracks

kanye himself even admitted it was rushed on that end and said he would remaster and rerelease it but that never happened

>>73095819
this

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>>73095357
>im old and i hate black people
> new music doesn't pander to me so it's bad
>soros
>Who the fuck is Chance the Rapper?

you sound like a parody

How is there not a single person on a music board of thousands who knows anything about rap music
How did this happen

>>73097867
I'm a black 31-year-old male.

>>73098888
Nice quads

>>73095331
don't know how to feel about this

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I'm now hip-hopologist, but i've identified at least one glaring omission in a conversation about what's exciting or vibrant in rap right now.

>>73095285
No piece of art is with out it's flaws. Name any album you would call a magnum opus.

>>73096090
I love Kendrick, I'm not black btw.

Also not that anon you were talking to

>>73095285
ya ok

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>>73095331
jesus h. christ does that suck

There's
DJ Lucas
Gods Wisdom
Secret Circle
Bedwetter
Gorgeous Children
All worth listening to right now IMO

>>73099974
Denzel Curry is a wack ass nerd. There's a reason SGP kicked him out of the CLVN. SPG is a real hood nigga and Denzel is a cartoon & anime watching stooge.

>>73101210
>Denzel Curry is a nerd
>listen to Secret Circle and Bedwetter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWDWC1Z6ZXA

>>73095819
Dis

The biggest shit in hip hop or music is happening now and people are complaining

>>73095285
I completely agree with this except for the reasons you provided that the classics are not-so-great

>>73101271
Travis doesn't rap about pokemon, cartoon network and toonami anime.

>>73095285
I you were not in cali around 99 when the underground revival took place then you shouldnt have an opinion on hip hop. sorry

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>it's another 'bunch of middle class white fags think they're the masters and trend setters of hip-hop episode'

yo keepin' it real son xDD

>>73101367
Biggie bragged about playing Street Fighter 2 and Wu-Tang Clan are obsessed with children's comic books, is their music too nerdy for you
Guessing the answer's gonna be yes, in which case, lol @ Tumblr rap fans

>>73101453
Neither Biggie or Wu Tang's entire schitck was trying to cash in on cheap 90's nostalgia mixed with derivative generic trap beats.

>>73101453
ahahahaha, biggie also bragged about 'play(ing) nintendo with cease and nino' and in the music video showed a sega genesis

never forgetti

they made a similar mistake in the ridin dirty video i think it was (showing an xbox controller when mentioning a ps4 or vice versa, can't remember)

>>73102555
Lmao, I never knew that

>>73094602
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>>73097441
NO! let him speak!

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>>73094586
I've made a list of real rappers/hip-hop musicians
Tyler The Creator-
Tamale
Yonkers
Goblin

Big Pun-
Twinz(Deep Cover)

XXXTentacion-
ImSippinTeaInYoHood
Look At Me

Earl Sweatshirt-
Chum

Clippings-
Blood and Body

$uicideboy$-
Paris
Magazine
South Side Suicide
Venom

Pouya-
Fat Hoes
1000 Rounds

Fat Nick-
2 HOT 4 U

RAMIREZ-
G.R.E.Y.G.O.D.S

Kold Blooded
666 Below

>>73103821
Why is summerfag bait so terrible