/prod/ Music Production General

>in reply to the last thread
>>73040521
Best in thread, just because I love this style of music. The sax and random synth squeals top it off nicely. I'd say louder drums though, just because I like very punchy mixes.
>>73040893
An album worth of stuff like this would be amazing relaxation music, it's the right amount of sublety. Depending on what you're going for though you could mix the drums slightly louder or just make them break through the mix more.
>>73047835
You can basically just use any drum samples and process them to sound the way you want.
>>73041610
I think it's because in older stuff we're less focused on achieving an end goal and were just jamming.
>>73045066
I love making offbeat melodies like that, it's fun to throw people off the rhythm.
>>73045776
Super clean, though I guess that's to be expected using Zedd stems. There's not really anything wrong with it maybe you could spice it up with some glitchy loopy bits.
>>73058005
Distortion on the sub will increase the aggressiveness, >>73060612 is right.
>>73058920
More punch anon, it has plenty of potential
>>73059964
Give it some sub, groovy loop though
>>73062545
The sub has no sub are the two bass lines conflicting? Or does it just need eq. And you need to into mixing and mastering, a good mix should be punchy and loud before mastering.
>>73063699
Tons of potential, find some nice instruments and you're set.
>>73063699
Finally someone who can into a punchy mix, I like this. Are the vocals yours? Keen to see how it progresses after this.
>>73066840
This anon >>73067770 is right, maybe you could try shortening the drum tails and that shaker thing to give it space. But it's a mighty fine track.
>>73066870
The vocals stand out in a strange way, kind of sibilant, maybe further eq and follow >>73067924 advice
>>73067359
Trippy, liking it so far, but it sounds far away, louder percussion would help.
>>73067706
The kick has popping at the end of the sample, fade out, sounds interesting though

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https://clyp.it/uhidam44
1:05 to skip intro

Is this a good master?

Here's a loop I recently started, it seems like a nice base to work from.
https://clyp.it/nk05g0ty

Also I thought you guys might like this one. I still need to add some structure and lengthen it out, though I've been enjoying the trippy delays in it.
https://clyp.it/sx34apdj

>>73074795
Looks like I messed up that embed link during copy/paste, woops.

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>>73074902
No, you're still barely at 0db, I quickly ran your track through my standard mastering process. It should sound more like this. I took out nearly 6db at the fundamental kick frequency and added about +3db in the highs.
https://clyp.it/4fif103s
I really enjoyed listening to it, the mix was amazing.

>>73075168
>No, you're still barely at 0db
I was worried about damaging the mix because of so much going on (bass-kick), I just pushed the gain on my maximizer until the signal started to die, then dialled it back... If you reckon it can withstand more I'll do more.
>I took out nearly 6db at the fundamental kick frequency and added about +3db in the highs.
Is the kick too loud? Are the highs too quiet? I think the problem is when I made the synths I filtered the highs and then I kind of added them back in with sends and mastering, I should really just go back into the mix and fix it there
>I really enjoyed listening to it, the mix was amazing.
Thanks, I wasn't sure about it. I really don't like making house music because the lows get flooded and claustrophobic. And thanks for the re-master, I'll keep it in mind

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probably shouldnt be posting this but im curious as to what you goys may think about this song i made about 6 months ago https://clyp.it/aucgeevb

>>73074813
cheers! I'm 73063699.

yes the vocals are mine. Orange Vocoder really does the trick.

>>73075717
Cool stuff, really interesting. No complaints

What's the best way of getting grest 808 and 909 sounds? Sample packs online (free or downloaded), making them yourself or sampling them yourself from songs and youtube videos?

Really want the absolute best sounds I can get since they're the backbones of my music

>>73075927
i really like legowelts 808 and 909 ableton racks, they are kinda lofi tho

>>73075466
Yeah there was way to much low end and the eq helped remove some muddiness and excess sub. As you said fixing it in the mix would be much easier.

>>73076041
I can hear it now, just compared my master and your master on some headphones. I think my monitors have bad bass response or something because I keep mixing bass too loud

>>73059964
>>73060246
>>73060311
>>73061340
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XrbTqiQGcg

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https://clyp.it/lk2mns0y
thoughts?
rate?

>>73075927
for 808 i synthesize em new with ts-808 http://tactilesounds.blogspot.com/p/tactile-synthesizers.html and then process that

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>>73074813
>More punch anon, it has plenty of potential
Cheers, mate. Yeah, listening to it today with fresh ears it sounds quite tamed. Will dial the punch in a little bit!

>>73076213
Nice organic glitches I r8 8/8
I like the mixture of acoustic and electronic

>>73075717
sick stuff mate

>>73075168
>>73074902
Shit, this stuff is good.

>>73074934
We should keep on adding to it!

>>73076443
Cheers anon

hello lads,

have a question about room size and monitors.
i'm in a 2.25m x 4m space - speakers would be placed against the 2.25, on stands, reducing that further by like 50cm. should i just get a pair of 5" adam a5x or do i have room for something bigger, like the HS7?

>>73071679
headroom of what?

>>73076723
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headroom_(audio_signal_processing)

>>73077242
in volume? do you mean it clips before 0db? or what?

>>73074813
you are doing gods work anon

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sup /prod/

i'm new to mixing, but have recently figured out the benefits of using start-up templates in ableton

what are some good default macros to set for every channel?

I was thinking a High Pass Filter and Low Pass Filter for sure... but what else would be useful to set on the other 4 available knobs?

So I'm using reason 9, slaved to fl 12. I have two midi channels in FL running two synthesizers in reason. Now i didnt configure it but I'm trying to figure out how to add a third. Tried a whole bunch of output and port settings in fl but I couldn't find a way to get the third midi channel for control the third synth.
Any tips?
Not in front of my computer rn so I'm trying to recite things as clearly as possible.

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https://clyp.it/ffa2ht2b

how's it sounding fellas? is the swing on the drums awkward?

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I have no idea how to mix but i managed to record
something.
What do you guys think
https://clyp.it/yjlkvnzw

>>73078180
>https://clyp.it/ffa2ht2b
sounding great
swing sounds okay, maybe drop it just a few points?
I dont know how the bass was recorded, but imo you should sustain the notes onces those guitar licks start coming in, i think it will liven it up a bit without changing the vibe

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Anyone know of a good orchestral library?

>>73076411
>>73075832
glad u fellas enjoyed

>>73078541
i tried to program the swing by turning the grid off and dragging hits around so some parts are more swung than others, and they seem to be too much so i'll tone them down
the bass is just a serum preset so i'll try that out. i definitely like the idea
thanks for the feedback tho, link me something of yours if you want

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>>73074902
>https://clyp.it/uhidam44
It's good but i feel like something is missing im not sure what yet.

>>73074911
sounds interesting, not very familiar with this type of music though - seems a tad spaztic.

>>73075717
musically it sounds great but you should rerecord it properly, it sounds super distant and the volume dips out and fades throughout.

>>73078180
>https://clyp.it/ffa2ht2b
doesnt really sound off with those swing hits but the clap/snare can be turned down for sure that seems to be the most overpowering elements of your mix is the high end portion of the drums/percussion.

>>73078379
guitar recording doesnt sound bad, but there's nothing really interesting or gripping about the track thats happening there. add some stuff to it.
I'm going to ditch the navi sample because it's incredibly over used, though i do enjoy it. I would like some comments on the overall mix, synth quality and dynamic, and arrangement of the track please!

https://clyp.it/thtzroa1?token=55dc8b10cfd681db2ac23ef052be6585

>>73078960
i forgot to separate my clyp with the last critique so here is the link to my clyp.

https://clyp.it/thtzroa1?token=55dc8b10cfd681db2ac23ef052be6585

>>73075927
Transistor Revolution You won't find anything better unless you feel like dropping a fuck load of cash on the real thing.

>To give an example of the detail involved in the sampling of each instrument, the Revolution 909 Bass Drum alone uses 9318 unique sounds to faithfully recreate the 909 Bass Drum sound.

Holy fuck guys I'm constantly battling against lack of desk space. I need some Studio furniture ideas

>>73079056
throw out everything except your monitors, interface, mouse and keyboard.

>>73079079
Thats not very helpful is it now

>>73079144
i mean, do you REALLY need all that other stuff?
think about it for a second.
you're welcome.

Hey. I don't really know what I'm doing, but I recorded this to get some experience with recording and actually making songs. Anything obvious stand out that I'm doing wrong or whatever? I like to leave on the starts and ends of tracks just for fun, so just ignore those bits.
https://clyp.it/u1lsn3h0

>>73078999
I'm listening to this now, and I think it's really cool. I can see why you'd ditch the Navi sample, but it is a shame because it sounds nice. Definitely need something strong there to replace it.

>>73079217
hey thanks, and yeah it's a shame because it fits so well but some other friends of mine who make a lot of music say they have heard it an uncountable amount of times. I'm hoping to keep it in the video game realm, maybe something not as popularized. if you know of any cool samples that come to mind please share!

>>73078960
>musically it sounds great but you should rerecord it properly, it sounds super distant and the volume dips out and fades throughout.
i get what you mean. also i didnt play any of that with an instrument, it's all samplers, specifically Kontakt. but yeh that volume dipping and fading was intentional, it's meant to sound far off, like a vague dream or something. thanks for feedback though, friend

>>73079180
Yeah thats still not helpful is it

>>73078379
chill stuff, keep it going anon

>Been playing guitar and piano and other instruments for countless years
>Recently begin learning to produce

Holy fuck this is amazing. It's like I have a whole symphony at my fingertips
Why didn't I start this earlier?

>>73079737
oh no. will you make video game music and epic scores?

>>73079812
Right now I'm working on instrumental hip hop stuff

>>73079836
i like how much conviction you posted this with.
good on ya son.

>>73079887
I'd honestly love to make some video game music when I get better at producing though, not going to lie

>>73078572
Been using this one for a little while:

http://www.philharmonia.co.uk/explore/sound_samples

Huge collection of orchestral instruments playing individual notes, and each note has a sample for piano, mezzo-forte, forte, etc. and at different lengths.
By themselves the samples can sound a bit tinny at times, but with the right processing it would probably sound better given that they're recordings of natural instruments.

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How does this remix sound? Anywhere I could improve (especially in relation to mastering)?

https://clyp.it/dy3ovwod

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>>73074795
Hey everyone, im working on a new beat and I used a sample for the first time. I was wondering if you guys have any idea if I could make the melody more interesting. Because right now it's just two notes over 4 bars and im feeling i should add something to it to give it more dynamic. Also the mixing might not be good

This is the beat (the last house part is just there as a joke so ignore that):
https://clyp.it/phajmfvp?token=13f9cf2ddca920cb54592ad1e6d20a92

I sampled the first few seconds from this
https://youtu.be/QSZOR0v-y6w

>>73080562
>https://clyp.it/dy3ovwod
what is it a remix of? Sounds good to me even though its not my kind of music.

>>73080579
Thanks! It's a remix of Stay by Zedd

https://youtu.be/h--P8HzYZ74

>>73080655
mind looking at my stuff?
>>73080564

http://www.thejazzpianosite.com/jazz-piano-lessons/

Learned about "shell chords". The 3rd and 7th are the most important notes in a chord that define its sound so just get rid of all the other shit. It creates an ambiguous sound and it's harmonically sparse, giving room for a more complex melody or solo.

>>73076213
I like it anon, feels like I'm listening to Radiohead.

>>73080753
I got you senpai, I don't have a good way to listen to it atm so I'll have to listen later.
>bookmarked

>>73080564
Sounds good to me! To add more melody or movement (1:00), I would throw a gate on your pads (or sample) and side chain it to your hats or something. It'd possibly give it a nice studder effect and could liven up the tempo. Also try experimenting with distortion effects to give your sampled a more high end presence

>>73081452
thanks g

>>73077887
>start-up templates
>macros

you mean audio effects racks?

the only presets i've made are parallel compression and one for bass guitar for mixing, but i'm sure a lot of people would probably start with reverbs and delays on their returns too

>>73076621
if it's between adams and yams i'd say get the a5x

a lot of people will discourage larger monitors in smaller rooms because of buildup but that's pretty silly.... i mean you can just turn the volume down lol

Anyone know of any recording programs like audacity or adobe audition that are compatible with ASIO?

>>73077337
(og anon) you'll always clip at 0db.

headroom* as in the space you have between getting no signal and distorting is extremely small. On top of that, it has a high noise floor as well.

>>73082747
FL Studio

>>73082747
pretty sure all or them dude...

>>73082778
Audacity isn't, others that are either can't multitrack or would just be additional cost. Ableton can't handle recording audio without chirps and crackles for me no mater what audio preferences so I need to record audio in some other program that uses ASIO for low latency.

https://clyp.it/2s5k0cdx

Finally finished with this, my brain is melted, what do you guys think.

https://clyp.it/4dyrpy4l
how can i make the gated synth sound fuller? the track might be a bit quiet btw

>>73083295
Detune more? Take the filter off and widen it overall.

>>73082977

You're still not any further down the road with this - did you try the DPC spike checker tool in the last thread?

Ableton has its flaws but it doesn't have a problem like the one you're having without there also being something amiss closer to the hardware or OS configuration that brings it out.

Example - Focusrite clicks and pops with AMD processors (there's a driver update that fixes it)

https://support.focusrite.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207546095-I-m-getting-clicks-and-pops-on-my-computer-that-has-an-AMD-processor

Finished this one yesterday: https://clyp.it/fie1d3gt
About to start a new project

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https://clyp.it/ibgynelm
feedback and advice on this? I'm kinda liking what I have so far and want to know what I can do to make it better.

>>73084179
Does that apply even not using AMD?

>>73084510
Not bad.

>>73084547
Pretty nice although I'm not really digging the bassline, doesn't seem to be following the chords all too well.

>>73084510 me

>>73084547
>https://clyp.it/ibgynelm
First of all you can fix the bass it's off key..
Some leveling would do the whole thing some good, Maybe add a violin/some strings or whatever to make it fuller.

>>73084179
>>73084565
Whoops for whatever reason though we said MME, brain's fried. But all my focusrite drivers are up to date unless these are some special ones, I'll try them out. So far my prod experience has been 5% music making and 95% troubleshooting.

>>73084728

Fuck I was just guessing Focusrite, I'm not laying this at their (or AMD's) door but I always had chipset issues with AMD systems (VIA chipsets were a bitch particularly) and it tended to lead me down the same road you're on - all I can add is that you will get it fixed if you persevere.

Try the driver fix and let us know if it worked - it might help someone else tearing their hair out with the same thing.

>>73084547
the shaker is a bit too loud imo

Im planning on buying a mid 2012 macbook pro becaus i want to use logic pro. Is anybody here using a macbook for music prod? Do you have any advice?

https://clyp.it/clfkqqac

i know the instrumentation and mixing need a lot of work but is this cover even slightly interesting?

>>73085615
Here's an acoustic cover...

https://clyp.it/iobyveku

>>73085615
>>73085637
>is this cover even slightly interesting

i've never heard the original but no sorry. it just sounds like a boring song with a shit load of effects

I found the acoustic version to be much better, you can actually hear your voice and it sounds nice... although the percussion is totally off and obnoxious.

>>73085059
>>73084703
>>73084692
https://clyp.it/rva3j5ii
tried to fix it up a bit. Thoughts?

>>73085110
I am using a Macbook Pro with Logic Pro X. Work hard is my advice.

>>73079056
be creative, i took the legs off of a keyboard stand today and added them to the legs of my desk so it would be taller and i could fit the keyboard stand partially under the desk so i could sit closer

>>73085110
do a search on /r/wearethemusicmakers

i've got nothing to tell you except the few times i've seen it brought up getting a refurbished macbook is always seen as a good idea

>>73079217
>Anything obvious stand out that I'm doing wrong or whatever

what's your recording setup like..? And what are you shooting for? Honestly it's a mess dude. I can see a flaming lips kind of thing going but what you've got so far isn't doing your song justice

>>73080795
nobody wants to talk about theory sorry :^)

i ripped that off of john frusciante's guitar playing; it's easy as shit to improv endlessly with that technique.

>>73083290
the progress in the first 30 seconds sounds premature to me but then again i've never heard the song

>>73083295
WHITE NOISE MY MAN 100% GARUNTEED FULLNESS

also bring in something an octave or two lower a liiiiiitle bit

>>73085802
your drums are hella dry man where's the verb? delay on the piano too. I don't care much for the kick sample... play with the velocity <.<

>>73082762
ah, understand. thats pretty shit

>>73079217
here
>>73085935
Yeah, my recording setup is shit; I'm back at my parent's house post-graduation and it's just a random room that I can put my instruments in plus a Snowball mic. I'm moving tomorrow, and will have my own space and more money so I'll be able to set up a better place with better equipment (though unfortunately sans drums and piano, since it's an apartment with limited space and noise stuff, which sucks).
As for shooting for, like I said I don't really know what I'm doing, so I started with a chord progression I had been messing around with and knew I liked and felt out the rest. I was going to add more in the middle (as well as rerecord the drums), but I just did this a couple days ago and I'm already moving. I mostly was just shooting to make a song with these instruments. I've done some acoustic guitar stuff in the past, but rarely have I added anything else, so I thought it'd be good to get a little feel for it.

>>73086179
ah, good luck in the apartment man, ive got no idea how i'm going to record once i move out lol

defs going to need to move past the usb mic. maybe cop a good keyboard and some kontakt libraries so you can demo out drums and piano before you're able to record the real thing

>>73084920
Nah driver download didn't do anything, I figured it wouldn't since the crackles/chirps only happen in Ableton, they're not present in other programs so it should be anything to do with the box itself or its drivers I'd think.

>>73086243
Thanks m8. I'm moving to somewhere with pretty low housing prices, and I'll be there for at least 6 years, so while I'll stay at the apt for probably a year I'm gonna look into getting a house. Then I could bring my drums up, which would be awesome.

Good idea. I actually just got a synth recently, but I don't really know how to use it and my attempts to get it to record sound to my comp' through my DAC ended in failure, so I'm going to try to figure that out once I move, also.
I actually also have what I think might be a pretty okay full-size keyboard from when I was a kid, but somehow the LCD screen broke when I was like 13 and it's a mess to do anything on it now.

>>73086394
so long as either of those have got midi out you should be good to go man

>>73078999
>https://clyp.it/clfkqqac


shameless self bumping in hopes someone can give meed some feedback. :l

anyone who knows how to isolate vocals want to help me isolate the vocals for mac demarco's my kind of woman. I'm making a sort of vaporwave/chill ambient type song with it.

>>73087810
i am philosophically against this type of sampling but all you have to do is phase flip an instrumental with the original

>>73086729
i've already critique this song multiple times don't give me that face!

>>73087932
Don't worry it's not gunna be just the slowed down vocals over a random beat I'm going to do something good with it

>>73087958
i belieb

just make sure you line both versions up, it's not hard

https://clyp.it/qibr45l2

started working on this today, tacked on the intro at the last minute trying to find a way to get to the middle, so im gonna rework that and build on the end later

>>73089551
feedback is appreciated haha

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>>73074795
I posted a clip yesterday and got some great feedback. Here's the progress I've made so far:


I'm just starting out, going for a sample-based hip-hop sound like madlib/J dilla. This is probably the first song I haven't given up on.
Looking for feedback, I don't know much about mixing so i'm just trying to get the flow of the song down first. Gonna watch some Eq/mixing tutorials on my day off tomorrow

>>73089551
When the drums drop out automate the synth so it sounds like it's coming toward in the mix. Also that clipping didn't sound intentional...

The song doesn't really sound like it goes anywhere, you need some other synths or key changes or something to build some interest

>>73089807
https://clyp.it/qztxsg0h

Forgot link....

>>73089817
Man I can hear exactly how the hats should groove ... only hard hits should be on the first and third with the rest descending. Definitlely better than how they were before.

That snare sounds fucked though man.

>>73086729
FUG I replied referencing the wrong song mb

If you didn't play the guitar in such a straight forward way, replaced that annoying percussion with something more organic yet processed and sang more energetically I can see this being a bit anco ish

Oh man, I just found out this general in /mu/ after months without coming to 4chan at all.

Because I thought 4chan became an utter shithole.

And after only watching the first video in OP's pasta, I stand humbly corrected.

Thank you guys, you got a nice general over here!

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https://clyp.it/sjmellpo?token=e12dfbdbac856b3ddbb818ed53305f8d

is this garbage?

It's shittily mixed and still WIP, would love ideas/pointers

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https://clyp.it/t45twh3y

Also this

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i need constructive criticism on this piece I made
https://clyp.it/5q0vd5ti
thoughts?

>>73090076
Shut up

>>73090546
Not garbage at all

Just based off of this song though I'd say your a much better producer than a songwriter. Also I have no idea what you were trying to do in the intro

That other percussive sample you've got going is a nice touch, just subtle enough. Up until 1:20 ish it sounds nice enough, I just wish there was some singing or something to pull the whole track together. My favorite part was the outro definitely. I could imagine something great with that.


>>73090626
Those hats????

Dude these tracks sounds pretty good it's just the song writing and a few questionable decisions that are making me scratch my head about you lol

>>73090666
Pointless intro imo. Rains too loud.

I feel like there should be a bit of verb on the guitar... going for more of an old school sound

That talking just feels like lazy sampling to get around making something to fill in your track. You've got good music buried beneath that man, why hide it?

>>73090711
hmm, i kinda half assed the sampling in the middle, even though the intro isnt needed, i felt it slapped a hook onto the song, its like a hook in a narrative, not needed but its cool if ya got one. I tried to think of some sample that would fit the theme of this song and i got this one, ill work on it more

>>73090666

you need respect for those satanic trips

hows this so far? my first time trying to make a chiptune-ish thing

https://clyp.it/j3d3tb5z

would love feedback on how its sounding.

>>73090884
i dont have much to say but that it flows quite nicely

https://clyp.it/ibe02q2v

Croony track I've been working on, getting excited about it. Think my mix is good, but worried that I need more gimmicks/flourishes. Also more general feedback welcome, esp about the drums.

>>73090884
Piercing and it hurt my ears <.<

I think you need to incorporate more parts. I don't listen to chip tune but I'd have to imagine there's got to be a lot going on to make up for the lack of interesting timbres

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r8 my master m8s

https://clyp.it/zg43jwih

>>73090711
What questionable decisions specifically? looking to improve ;w;

I'm thinking of using this beat for my breakthrough single, is it a good beat for that?
It's still unmastered and unmixed but I'd like to see if its worth it before I mix it and master it.
https://clyp.it/ekoz5x1w

>>73091154
this is poop desu it sounds empty as fuck, theres something missing
>>73090884
sounds like something a 3 year old would make on a little tikes xylophone, seriously though its alright, check my shit out

>>73091137
I didn't think it needed more embellishment really. I heard a lot in the low mids that I would have cut out but then again I'm tired and that sounds like it's just the style of music. Where's the rest of the track though, it sounded like something exciting was coming and I just got left hanging!

The singing... plosives ssss's etc. sounds like you have a cold dude. You don't have a bad voice but i feel like if you stayed conscious of it during another take it would be a lot better.

>>73091154
8/10 track name
Sing is eh... kick is too loud man. It sounds like you have a decent idea of what you're doing mix wise mostly, the panning isnt all shitty or anything like would be typical for a new producer.

>>73091159
Uhhhh like those hats were the biggest thing, like i have no idea how those don't sound off to you. I'll listen again later on monitors and give some more detailed feedback if I remember tomorrow.

>>73091256
lol

>>73091256
Is it sonically poop or just musically poop?

>>73091154
very elevator music like, like background music that you dont really pay attention to, add some spice to it
>btw judging by the samples your using, it sounds like a trapaholics kit

>>73091293
musically poop, its sonically fine just musically lacks a little something

>>73091256
jesus christ man, add some fucking 808 in there before i lose my fucking mind

>>73091292
Ok I'll turn the kick down

>>73091295
>>73091303
Gotcha, needs lead instruments or vocals

>>73086369

Have you tried other applications for recording that also use ASIO? Get the FL Studio demo or Reaper and try recording with those.

Where you guys torrent VSTs?

>>73092964
I google them. When they don't turn up from google search, TPB. If it's not there either, audioz.

>>73092986
thanks. all the links that google brings up look like scams but I guess i have to wade through the shit

>>73092991
just use piratebay. all the popular stuff is on there

>>73092991
If you have to waste time wading through the shit just use the pirate bay. I use google cause I can tell what's bullshit at first gaze, but it's still useless half of the time.

>>73090546
I'm not an expert on production but this is good. If I wasn't listening to this on /mu/ or paying close attention I wouldn't be able to tell it's amateur shit until that flute thing in 1:50.

I know noisia is an unparalleled outlier when it comes to music production but
https://youtu.be/z6kpnd9ziQo?t=355

at 5:55, did they use a VST or something for the vocals? Or are they well funded enough that they got an actual choir to do the vocals?

How would I get something close to that with a VST? Or is there a sampler/sample pack I could use?

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https://instaud.io/Z1f

heave ho

>>73093555
Probably sampled from an actual choir recording of a song knowing NOISIA.

There are a lot of good choir libraries out there right now.

I use 8dio requiem (as seen in the latter half of this)

https://clyp.it/0cgrty2y

Ark one, tonehammer mars, strezov wotan + freyja will probably work for you too.

>>73078572
http://sso.mattiaswestlund.net/

>>73093809
if that's the case, then do you know what genre that type of choir/singing is called?
Gregorian chants aren't quite as intense and looking up "choir" on youtube gets me generic christian rock choir groups

>>73093885
Just general polyphony/choral music.

Starts at renaissance polyphony, ends around the middle of the 20th century for the most part. Could start maybe by searching for bach chorales/masses if you're just after that general sound.

https://youtu.be/jm1os4VzTgA?t=3211

I think the type of sound you're after that's super brutal is more later, like 18th century up to wagner type sound.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvglfJFmXjQ

>>73085615
Like the other dude said, this is pretty boring, I'm not feeling the chord progression at all.

>>73085637
I'm not sure about those chords man..

>>73085802
Bass still hittin the wrong notes.

>>73087810
Like the other anon said, if you find the instrumental flip the phase of it while aligning it with the vocals and you're set.

>>73089551
Nice song, although the mix isn't quite there yet, I'd like the drums to be a bit snappier and I'd EQ the low-mid range mud on the pads that interferes with the drums. Also some multiband comp on that pad is needed, gets a tad too loud and clips. Also bass needed.

>>73089817
Bass is too loud and drowns the drums out, flip that around so the drums are louder than the bass and the kick comes through. Gonna have to surgically EQ the very lo part of the bass maybe, think 50-60 Hz, this bass doesn't really need those freqs. Also it gets repetitive after a while, that would be a good loop for 4 bars but 2 minutes of this is way way too much.

>>73090546
Really great track. Snare seems to be a bit too quiet, overall you could get much more loudness out of this but that's because I'm a huge EDM-head (>>73083290 is me). The flute thing is actually amazing. Also this just SCREAMS "ADD FEMALE VOCALS". Good job.

>>73090626
I have to agree with the other anon here, the hi-hats are a bit fucked, they sound better in context when the kick+snare enter but still they need more variation and the track begs for more foley overall.

>>73090666
I was expecting great things because of the intro, but it doesn't flow well with the rest of the track. Rain is way too fuckin loud jesus take it down. Also some of the samples seem to contradict each other. I'm not sure how much you did on this, it all just sounds like 4 samples thrown in together.

>>73090884
Way too loud, ear piercing and sounds like you randomly programmed notes into the piano roll.

say I have a bass sidechained to my drums.
When I have a section where my drums cut out but the bass remains, the bass becomes overpoweringly loud.

How do you solve this elegantly?
The best I've found is to just sidechain the bass to a duplicated drum set that's muted but plays through all the parts

>>73094078
Can't you just automate the volume so it's lower during that section?

I'm a newfag but that's what I'd do.

>>73094117
you could but then you'd, well, have to automate it.
It might also subtly affect the sound and screw with the levels and how it interacts with the other instruments

if it's sidechained all the way through then the sound level will be consistent with the rest of the song

>>73094078
Automate the volume of the bass? It's quite a simple solution

I found a really old song I made from 2012 when I was 14 and it's really taking me back

The production is shit but it sounds surprisingly good for what I used to make back then and the melody/song itself isn't even that bad. It makes me want to remake it.

https://clyp.it/ee2mxvvq

anyone know how earl did this shit? talking about the beat obviously.

https://youtu.be/tZ5Mu2gs-M8

>>73094190
It sounds fucking cool. It's sort of lacking a structure, though.

But definitely work on it. Five years is a long ass time. You're gonna need a lead if you don't wanna add lyrics though cause it sounds pretty empty.

>>73094245
"lacking structure" describes all my music from back then

I've lost the original project file AND switched DAWs so it's pretty much lost to the ages as it was so I have no choice but to re-make it

my biggest fear/problem is the new version won't capture the mood of the original. It sounded (and still sounds) almost exactly like I wanted it to but it still has that amateur funk to it.

I want to remake and make it into something *more*, but I don't know how I would. It's hard to put into words.

>>73094347
I get what you mean. I try to work on old tunes every now and then and I can't shake off that amateurish vibe without making the song shitty or generic.

Maybe you should try to make it sound as close as possible as the original one. With five years of experience it'll sound really different even if you try to recreate it.

>>73094347
same here. its hard to recreate that one of a kind vibe. even changing a few elements of a mix will completely change the atmosphere.

>>73094230
sounds like he sampled a bunch of random sounds recorded through a skype call

i know certain parts of the song are exported with a very low bitrate. apparently 40, drakes producer, uses this technique a lot

>>73094078
duplicate the sound or automate

i sometimes like duplicating sounds for different sections because its easy to have automation get messy towards the end of a project. i think you should only do this if the plug ins are low cpu

>>73094466
so that's the secret? way simpler than I thought. thanks

Recorded some live piano in a small hall. I've never mixed a solo piano before. Is there any glaring issues? Should I compress it little more?

https://clyp.it/zy23smv1

>>73094078
Bring your bass down and ease up on the sidechain, the point is for it not to be heard.

>>73094190
Good shit.

>>73094230
Honestly just be creative with shit shit, stretch samples, fuck with the bitrate, put in tons of effects, but also mix it nice and keep everything in check.

>>73094919
A bit too quiet and verb'd. I know this was recorded in a concert hall but it's like the mic is a bit farther away from the piano.

>>73095255
I had two mics inside the piano and two about seven meters away, so i can tone down the reverb. It's possible that my love of everything reverberated and echoing got the better of me.

>>73095439
yeah senpai ease up on the verb and bring up the overall volume.

If you stick at doing music every day like an autist grinds WoW and refuse to get discouraged you will get good and make some kind of money out of it even if you're borderline retarded

The thing is most people do get discouraged and quit for periods so just stick at it no matter what

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>>73087932
>>73089918
No no no no you guys are listening to the wrong song. in my original post >>73078960
i fucked up and posted my link in the same section of my critique for the other song. so my clip has been totally missed over.

and here >>73086729 too
fuck fuck fuck i also posted the wrong clyp again ah fuck me.

can i please have some feedback on my track please? here is the actual clyp....

https://clyp.it/thtzroa1?token=55dc8b10cfd681db2ac23ef052be6585

>>73083290
Bumb, anyone?

>>73083290
not a fan of all the vocals going on.
programing seems alright though

mute the vocals and layer the kick with a 909

>>73094919
i dont know anything about mixing like that either, but i can tell you I dont like that the bass notes are panned to the left, imo makes the higher notes on the right channel seem weaker.

how the smashing pumpkins record their voices?

https://clyp.it/qj3i1tfq
https://clyp.it/1qacg1ff

I wanna make ambient

>>73074795
how the fuck i can record acoustic guitar and singing with a laptop, i´d wanna use the hp laptop´s mic for recording

>>73096977
the dynamics and pacing on this are on point. keep it going

>>73051251
>>73067770
>>73067924
thanks guys
done these things
hows it sounding now
https://clyp.it/dkvtrmvv

>>73097049
Thanks man

SHOULD I sell all my Elektrons and go buy a modular instead? Or am I good where I'm at right now...?

>>73090076
this thread turns into a shitfest often

>>73097779
most important thing is that you like your gear and are happy to work with it

>>73097779
no, keep your elektrons but also buy a modular

>>73098184
>>73098329

Great, thanks, i'll be happy to keep my Elektrons. Still pretty scared to go modular..

https://clyp.it/bhkgvonz

How is this sounding?

why 99% of the time end up hating what i produce?

>>73098870

You're not the only one, I feel the same way many times

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>>73097779
No keep electrons and buy modular like other anon said. Never sell anything, spend time with what you have, find its character and quirks and embrace them.
I've just started a modular system and I'm Slowly getting modules, I'm kinda planning on buying lots of effects that I can use with my other stuff, then I'll slowly build synth voices etc

Anyone one here produces stuff on linux? Thinking about getting into this, but currently use Linux on my primary

>>73098870
>>73098944
Youre not putting enough emotion into your work, you may be doing it for the sake of doing it and so your end product isnt satifying

>>73099744
am i putting emotion into my work
https://clyp.it/dkvtrmvv

>>73095830
god damnit that's the one i "accidentally" replied to! It sounds much better than the early iterations. I like it, maybe try layering on the secition at 1:05 and 2:17

>>73094190
that's... really good for 14 man.

>>73094919
sounds slightly dark... all i'd change really is bringing down the room mics and adding a high shelf.

>>73096977
automate delay times/ wetness for variation

>>73097379
all my original issues with it were fixed save for the vocals. they definitely need to be louder, still missing something. i'd use robert plant as a reference. something from a more grandiose led zeppelin song

>>73098854
pretty.... boring though. I like the sounds a lot. The panning on the hats was too obvious though. I'd go with a ping pong delay or the like

>>73099744
OR HE'S JUST BAD SO FAR STOP TRYING TO MAKE IT MORE THAN IT IS

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Any tips for the mixdown?

https://clyp.it/lfv0xi00

>>73099942
the horns and other samples are too loud/ covering up the synths

>>73099931
You sound like a prick.

>>73099802
Sounds good to me, dunno what you on about

>>73100240
Watch how you speak to me, peasant. I run /prod/ l

>>73100240
lol what are you sad that he didn't like your shitty song?

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>>73100370
>I run /prod/
better watch your back asshole because we run this shit

>>73100391
I was the last post he replied to, regarding anons not liking their songs

>>73100370
Righto champ

>>73100443
you can put a lot of emotion into something and still end up with a shitty song because you're not good at writing yet tho

>>73099931
>>73098854
Could you please tell me why it was boring, so i can change it up? Cause i dont wanna scrap it

>>73100370
>I RUN /PROD/

>>73100485
Hmm thats a good point, i just assumed that the emotion would show

>>73100486
Well there's nothing melodic or rhythmic at all to grab onto before 1:24, and nothing made me want to keep listening. I didn't care for the vocals at all. They're far too consonant- any time the synth hits with them they're always on the same note and it's all very... safe sounding. You don't have to make it super dramatic or anything but you should be arranging these elements to chords to make more interesting harmony.

Also for some reason it reminded me of that cave area in Kotor, I think a gated reverb on the kick would be fitting.

Sorry for the lacking response originally lol

>>73100508
Expressing yourself well is a skill I guess

Even if their song is shit somebody can still hold it precious just because of what they put into it though...

>>73100689
Wait so layering each different instrument with only one 'note' to form chords? Also theres harmony at the end with the vocals which i think sounds really nice

>>73100689
It probably doesnt help that im coming from a musically devoid background (as drums is completely different)

>>73100746
it doesn't haaaave to be one note or along any specific chord progression, I just think approaching it that way would help you. It sounded alright.

>>73100783
o

>>73101391
But i think my ear is ok so thats what's keeping me afloat

>>73101391
Thanks for the advice btw, i appreciate it

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https://clyp.it/jmog5i4z

hey /prod/. haven't been active for a while.. why the fuck aren't we using the old pic anymore, can't found th 3d in cat anymore with ease. ok gimme your ear with this, i feel the chops could be a bit shit

will give recs in a bit as usual so we don't jerkoff

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https://clyp.it/5tt2sriq
Finished this right after I got 4 wisdom teeth extracted. How is it? I feel like I need to better work on that transition

>>73101686
>https://clyp.it/5tt2sriq

this sounds really good to me my man!!! also great album in pic. nice one

>>73101686
Jez the groove going on the second half is nuts

>>73101806
>>73101889
thanks dudes. Was feelin nice and jiggy off the hydrocodone got me groovin sum type a way tahah. Anything to fix?

>>73101913

make more beats like the second hald and post more often here ;)

>>73101913
>>73101941
I reckon that double bass was seriously dope

>>73101643
I think it was just a series of bad ops so now we lost lunga

the piano distorts pretty unpleasantly... the kick sounds too clean for the style

>>73101686
v cool dude

the distortion sucks out a lot of the impact from the percussion tho. weak transition yeah

I don't care for the out of key toy piano thing in the second half. And... you know original rapping would be really sick on this dude

>>73101941
>>73102005
thanks
>>73102476
>distortion sucks out a lot of the impact
if you mean transients I agree, but I don't really want it too punchy more flowy
>weak transition
working on it right now

Sanity check on this mix and master? <.<

https://clyp.it/id1h0xxx?token=190977cf7660757b9a6af66500b4a47d

>>73102476
thanks for the help my man, i used asaturator to make that sound bigger.. will think twice next time :P

What vstis are good for that vintage 80s electro industrial sound? I've been using arturia synths and z3ta virus but they don't really do the trick for me and I feel like I'm just going to fall in that synthwave meme with both products.

Drumkits are something I've taken care of. Got plenty of good samples and fx sounds.

>>73102796
Diva

>>73096799

for Siamese Dream,

"Vig didn’t much care for the midrange in Corgan’s voice, so to soften that particular timbre he used a Shure SM7 (generally regarded as a more “open”-sounding mic when its rolloff and boost features are engaged simultaneously) through an API preamp and a Summit TLA-100 Tube Limiter, all fed back into Corgan’s headphones. Like everything else, vocal takes were abundant, with Corgan sometimes singing for eight hours at a time to make sure his tracks were pitch perfect."

>>73102005
man can i ask you for the sample and what you did to it in terms of fx, mix and stuff?? i wanna try something like this!!

>>73103008
I'm
>>73101686
>>73101913
>>73102546
not
>>73103008

But hi dude!
>can i ask you for the sample
I actually don't know what song it is but I know it's Johnny Dyani on bass
>what you did to it in terms of fx, mix and stuff
Kind of a lot to explain haha. Uhhhhh I honestly have no orthodox way of doing anything... I just mix till it sounds good (I know that's a shitty answer but it's the truth). I guess I could tell you I work mostly with audio, then I use battery 4 for drums, fabfilter Q and L for mixing on pretty much every track. I just find a sample and then see what it wants to become, then make it. It's so hard to explain I'm sorry I know.

>>73103225
do you have a soundcloud or bandcamp?

>>73103360
yeh sure folks have heard my shit around here
not much that I'm proud of from this year I've been really deep in my academics
https://soundcloud.com/official_contingent
everybody else can ignore this

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>>73103360
liked that sun ra on saturn meetup a LOOTTTT. man where did u learn??

>>73103472
Self taught/youtube/a few production classes in college that taught me nothing other than how to make a deadline lol. Just listen to hella music man. Pretty sure I still have a ways to go so it's still what I do, just listen to more and more music

>>73103548

i listen a lot of music already, just pass resources my man :°)

>>73103592
I have never read a production book. My college class didn't do anything for me t.b.h. But yeh I started on all those same plebshittier tutorial channels like 4 years ago (seamlessr the gang, you know). Just got inspired and got to it. Really just is trial and error. I indeed have lots of horrible projects and the ones that are good are unfinished. All my prod resources are those known ones, I'd say 85% of my learning I've done by ear so I don't really know how to translate that. I do have a 100gb folder of samples, that helps get things rolling. Start working up a personal sample library and just piecing things together arbitrarily hey maybe you'll make something amazing who knows?

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https://clyp.it/1uu1y5pp
Recently started this beat and I'm really liking it so far. Comments and tips to make it sound better?
>>73101686
>https://clyp.it/5tt2sriq
holy shit I fuckin love that snare. And the rest of the clip. It sounds so alien and weird great sounds man. Also dat bass groove in the second half is godly is it a sample?
>>73101643
transition in the beginning can use a lot of work. Also play around with the velocity of the drums. Otherwise it has a pretty nice vibe

Anyone have some decently recorded vocals that need pitch correction? I'm gonna put an ad on Fiverr where I'll pitch correct people's vocals and I need some non copyrighted examples of what I can do. I'll only use like 10 seconds of it for the example, but I'll tune a whole vocal track as a trade.

Again I want the examples to all sound good, so no laptop mic recordings or anything

>>73099723
Linux is probably the worst OS for making music. It's fine if you want to use Pure Data I guess...

bump 5 u

https://clyp.it/hqj5hgpx

I'd appreciate any feedback and advice.
What I'm worried the most about is the drums. Don't know if it's the levels or compression but I can't seem to get it right. But maybe there are bigger issues.

>>73108070
Wtheck man your drums are barely audible. Just turn them up...? You shouldn't be relying on compression to get a good sound except for very specific instances.

Also that bell ish sound is a bit crazy with the panning

>>73108254
I think the hats are really loud tho. I can fix the snare and kick easily but hats are still a pain in the ass to me.

Also I can barely hear the panning thing. Maybe I'm deaf or something, I'll turn it down a little.

>>73108254
Oh also every tutorial on drums I've watched says to use compression. Is that wrong? It sounds all over the place to me if I don't.

>>73108294
What are you using that you can't separate the volume of the different drums....

>>73108319
there are a looooot of shitty tutorials and misinformation out there. You need to get a handle on velocity if it's all over the place.

What I mean about the compression is it should be icing on the cake usually, not something that you need to sound decent. If that's the case, something else is the problem.

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>>73074795
Thank you guys for helping me make these 15 songs the past 9 months. Though harsh, it has helped a lot.

>>73108471
>What are you using that you can't separate the volume of the different drums
No I can, I was careless tho and fucked them up before uploading.
>there are a looooot of shitty tutorials and misinformation out there
Yeah for real. It's cool to have this to clear up doubts cause a bunch of the info out there is ass.

Hi guys,

This is about to get mastered, any final recommendations about the mix itself? Anything stick out that could be better? Drums are supposed to sound washy and buried for this one.

https://clyp.it/zuffufac

Thanks for any advice.

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Hi guys, can anyone recommend me a program to make simple piano instrumentals?

I love writing lyrics/melodies and I sing, but I don't have any proper instrumentals

>>73110221
Garage band

>>73110247
dont think thats available for windows my love

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how's the comp/arrangement on this? does it need other parts/layers? Ideas?

https://clyp.it/2rj0a3hi

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So I cut up some mp3 from youtube and got 24 different samples (each in it's own channel).. but in the 'Sampled beats' folder, there's only ONE of them??? When I export project zip, there's also just one mp3 file there.. how the fuck do I get these out???

>>73110313
Use, like, fruity loops, maybe.

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https://clyp.it/ga5oolyn
Workin on some filter house. It's obviously very unfinished.

>>73110313
Seriously tho any daw can do that.

>>73112547
>https://clyp.it/ga5oolyn
nice stuff
really like that flute sample, gives it a funky vibe.
Filtering is good, but i think it might benefit if you also filter with some High Pass and not just Low Pass... essentially turning some of your filtering into band-pass (but with a definable width). Also maybe add a bit of delay to your filter track, might give things more interest as they drop out or quickly change frequency.

>>73112547
>dat clyp URL
It's like "gasoline".
You're blessed man.

https://clyp.it/hgmczrcr

General thoughts on composition & arrangement? Intended for a action/mission section for a game.

How do you recreate the Waves doppler effect using more bare-bones elements?

Say I wanted to make a preset fx chain within kontakt that has the same effect how would I go about it? The waves doppler plugin is from the early 00s and it clicks when it finishes a cycle through the stereo field so I was looking for something more up to date.

>>73114932
slightly automate delays against each other on both sides by a few milliseconds

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>>73111765
ME AGAIN]

Okay so I hadn't touched this for a few hours and since nobody responded I decided to go with it anyway and shit. SO
You know how usually you can drag a sample from this menu here direct to the playlist? Well every time I try doing that, with any of the 24 cuts, I just get the same one bit pasted into the playlist!! And it's not like I need to expand it or anything - it's just the one sample!!1111

>>73114986
And when I click 'make unique'... It transforms into that one sample too

>>73111522
Would you be so kind as to explain your euro rack setup please? I'm new to eurorack and I'm slowly trying to build a setup most of which I'm building from DIY modules at the moment

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>>73115744
>>73111522

This is what I have so far

>>73115744
>>73115953
yeah, give me a bit i'll get something up to explain it

bumping for now

>>73114708
the bass is way to loud

its out of time at certain points, sometimes so bad that it sounds like youre forcing an odd time signature

the piano sound like a midi

>>73116271
Thank you. I'm kind of interested in how the specific modules interact with each other in your setup.
I have the turing machine module and it needs a clock in to trigger it I'm guessing but I'm unsure as to what module to get use as a clock source? I'm thinking of building a output module and 4ms PEG and getting a few of the expansions for the turing machine

>>73117210
it's fine
also, thanks for the loop

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>>73117311
I hate this fucking general