Let me explain Yeezus to the fags here who have had four years

Kanye is normie nigger trash music
Listen to Autechre

>>73012933
fpbp

>>73012919
it's a shit album

>>73012919
If you listen to rap I'll lay money you're a teenager

But really, Lou Reed?

>>73012919
>>Kanye delivers some of the most incredible, memorable bars of his entire career
HURRY UP WITH MY DAMN MESSAGE, HURRY UP WITH THOSE DAMN CROISSANTS

>>73012919
>>73012971
Lou Reed wasnt good those days, reminder that he made Lulu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j17MnrbK-yo

Normies are already starting to come around to it, it takes a few years for them to appreciate anything once the consensus has been built up enough for them to "safely" listen to it.

>>73012933
>Listen to Autechre
Exactly the type of shit a boring alt-normie who wears a parka everywhere would say
This shit writes itself, the only reason you'd enjoy something as tedious as Autechre is because it already has tonnes of critical and fan consensus around it

>>73012973
>>73012973
IN A FRENCH-ASS RESTAURANT

>>73013026
I JUST TALKED TO JESUS
HE SAID WHAT UP YEEZUS

Yeezus (Def Jam, 2013), designed with an incredible number of collaborators, is a sloppy, awkward and amateurish work despite the impeccable fusion of electronics and vocals, the impeccable collages, the impeccable production. But sound quality is a technological, not an artistic, fact. Daft Punk are responsible for the robotic beat of On Sight and the monster riff of Black Skinhead (one of the catchiest "songs"): cool but nothing we haven't heard before. There are a few moments of pathos: the reggae-like cry of I am a God in a desolate post-industrial soundscape, the gloomy crescendo of the first half of Hold My Liquor (before the misguided synth orgy), the martial trombone fanfares of Blood on the Leaves, and... i struggled to find at least one more. But there are also embarrassingly trivial moments of both mashup and sociopolitical analysis (New Slaves, I'm in It, Blood on the Leaves, and Bound 2, which is simply a lame tribute to soul music) and there is certainly an unusual dose of filler (a four-song EP would have been more appropriate for what West had to say in this album). As a narrative experience, these stories may try something new but it's more a case of a populist bard desperately trying to find something new to say to his followers than a serious discussion on gender and race. As an aural experience, this album feels terribly old, like most granpas when they try to speak the language of their high-school nephews. Maybe this album was only meant as a self-mocking joke?

>Production light years ahead of its time, totally unique and four years later it hasnt dated a single day, still sounds like its on the absolute cutting edge of hip hop production.
how though, this doesnt explain what elements of the production were so gamechanging or unheard of in 2013. Not to mention arca, hudmo and evian were all making shit like this before they worked on yeezus.

>>73013009
Another album that will take normies millenia to catch up to

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>>73013013
>This shit writes itself

>>73012919
Great production wasted on terrible songs. It's starts strong and goes downhill. The second half is pretty bad. Only a couple songs there to save it.

>>73012919
I Am a God is cheesy but the rest of the album is 10/10.

>>73013092
If you can name one(1) hip hop album before the release of Yeeus that sounds anything like Yeezus, then i will concede that argument. But I dont believe you can.

>>73013135
Anything by Death Grips, whom Kanye shamelessly ripped off

>>73013135
Money Store sounds like Yeezus except it's actually good.

>>73012919

Yeezus fails because usually Kanye is THE trendsetter, but in 2013, the experimental hip-hop fad happened before him. So it feels like he rushed this album just so that he could stamp his name on the Experimental Hip-Hop genre. All he really did for this album was blend together sounds that Death Grips and Odd Future had already done, and there ya go, Yeezus was shat out.

6/10

>Not a single wasted track, not a single second of filler

LMAO. "I'm In It" might just be Kanye's worst song, and it's total filler.

>He had the bravery to come back after the maximal production by starting his followup with an abrasive synth that sounds like a chainsaw. On the whole, this album diverts all expectations of what a Kanye album should sound like and for that, it has its own special brilliance

Like I said, Kanye just wanted to hop on a trend that started without him, and before him. His ego wouldn't allow him to not capitalize on current rap trends. Speaking of his ego, Yeezus has no point or great moral message, it's just Kanye masturbating his ego.

>>73013104
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>>73013160
I suggest you to kys.

>>73012919
>Kanye delivers some of the most incredible, memorable bars of his entire career
KEEP IT 300
LIKE THE ROMANS

>>73013219
Death Grips are the pioneers of experimental hip-hop you fucking idiot

I love the album but guilt trip is not good

>>73013256
if you're falceflagging to make dgfags look stupid it's actually very nice

death grips is a rip-off project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgVlyrupu34

>>73013285
Whether they were influenced or not is irrelevant, they're the only ones currently trying new things and making it work

>>73013253
That's my favorite line 2bh. Probably because my name is Roman.

>>73013160
>>73013176
It's the same fucking argument every time, like clockwork
Can you name one DG track that sounds anything like something on Yeezus?

The answer is no and I know this because every single time we have this argument you fuckers come up short.
The only way I can understand someone comparing the two is by comparing them superficially, if I heard a Death Grips track and Black Skinhead once about a week ago I would compare them too
But on closer inspection they don't sound anything alike

>>73013302
Fuck off roman

>>73013297
>rehashing the old genres = trying new things
yeah no

>>73013321
> mainstream artist rips off underground band
> omg kanye so brave for making this album

>>73013347
see >>73013219

>>73013316
this

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this thread makes me want to fucking off myself

>>73013359
> Don't be mean to senpai Kanye :((

What would you Yeezus fans say is the most "industrial" song on the whole album? I've listened to a few songs and none of them sound particularly industrial, they're probably closer to pop rap for me

>>73013412
>>Don't prove me wrong :((
I don't even like kanye outide of the few songs, most of which are on yeezus

>>73013437
it's meant to be with only one arrow

the fact that he absolutely ruined the blood on the leaves beat with his fucking retarded stream of consciousness crap is enough to hate the album, and that's not counting how much throwaway half-baked garbage it's crammed with.

>>73013422
I've heard it described as industrial but I dont agree with that. Still love the album though and think the production is excellent

>>73013422
Yeah just nothing, like I said >>73013310 it's all pretty superficial conjecture.
Like everyone hears a loud and sometimes abrasive album and recall how Death Grips and Dalek are sometimes loud and abrasive so they make that link in their head somehow?
I can understand comparing it to something like NIN but it isn't fucking industrial.

>>73013519
Well, I don't really see the album as that abrasive either, you'd have to be a pretty big normie to find anything abrasive out of what I've listened to. I like the production but I don't really like the album so far

I swear to god Kanye fans are the most pretentious, and downright deluded people I've ever met in my life. Kanye could release an album that was just sampled beats of howler monkeys fucking and y'all would say it was so deep and so ahead of it's time

>>73013575
Nah, TLOP was a hot pile of shit.

Yeezus is a legitimate masterpiece though.

>>73013544
Well it's not like Whitehouse or anything but it's abrasive on a relative level, compare On Sight to something on MBDTF or the majority of mainstream hip-hop albums.

>>73013135
Black skinhead is basically NERD but edgy, on sight is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoPKWmx80wU
hold my liquor is like this but with some more elements https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8rTlVjjYxA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2JV_87FJfU
the others are more like evian/hudmo/arca's other work or classic kanye on bound. I know youre going to act like this all doesnt count because its not all hip hop but kanye is a pop artist and this is pop music

>>73013575
>Kanye could release an album that was just sampled beats of howler monkeys fucking and y'all would say it was so deep and so ahead of it's time
That sounds so much better than TLOP

>>73013160
What an idiotic comment

>>73013675
t. Normie kanye fan with 90 IAQ

>>73013698
Yet nobody has given an instance of Yeezus sounding like anything from Death Grips. Just admit that you have no clue what you're talking about dude.

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>>73013310
“I know of them, but I can definitely say that we did not listen to Death Grips once the entire time we were making this album.”- quote from Noah Goldstein, who worked on Yeezus

>hasnt heard of death grips

>>73012919
oh ok so its a meme

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>>73013780
>Yet nobody has given an instance of Yeezus sounding like anything from Death Grips.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD-RD3E0Pbo

also
>>73013826

>>73012919
Meh.

*listens to Death Grips once*

>>73013877
Which track does that sound like?
>>73013826
Well it isn't Kanye for one and I don't think he'd deny he was influenced by someone if he was

>>73013846
but lou reed really did write an interesting review of yeezus shortly before he died. good read if you have never seen it

http://www.talkhouse.com/lou-reed-of-the-velvet-underground-talks-kanye-wests-yeezus/

>>73012919
>production light years ahead of its time
what the fuck does that even mean

the death grips meme needs to stop. tms and exm are my least favorite dg but even they are less dated than yeezus, like ooohhhh we mixed trap with acid house and minimal production its so futuristic but it still sounds like the year it was made. Nothing by dg is trendy enough to sound that specific to a time period because they pull from way too many sounds to fit in nicely.

>>73014130
It means FUCK YOU, KID!

>>73012919
hey bud, don't assume everyone is "crawling to the altar of Yeezus" just because you heard the album and are all riled up about it

>>73014216
>DG trendy
pretty sure thats the opposite of what they are going for

>>73013013
Damn... so true man

>>73014267
read the context you fuck

Yeezus threads are always the worst

I WON'T END THIS HIGH

>>73012919
I'm not a big fan of that album but New Slaves is a fucking great song

>>73012919
>"THANK GOD ALMIGHTY THEY'RE FREE AT LAST!"
>not a second of filler
Pick one OP.

>>73013575
> sampled beats of howler monkeys fucking and y'all would say it was so deep and so ahead of it's time

Sounds fire not even gonna lie

>>73014216
>DG are trap

>>73012933
>nigger
opinion discarded

Who here like Yeezus a lot but think it's his worst album?

>>73012919
Pablo was better.

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>there are people who don't think Yeezus sounds like No Love Deep Web

>>73015682
Which song

>>73013160
And Death Grips shamelessly ripped off Mutsumi Kanamori & M.I.A.'s MAYA album

>>73015682
It doesn't matter Mutsumi did it first anyways lol I love death grips but Mutsumi invented that sound not DG not BLACKIE.

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I love many albums that I dont create topics about with the purpose of defending said albums to justify my taste to the world.

If you like Yeezy theres nothing wrong with it. Who cares what a bunch of teenagers on 4chan think of your favorite album.

>>73015966
This

>>73013065
based scruffy droppin truth

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>>73012933
>Kanye is normie

>>73013009
>>73013104
>David Bowie had referred to Lulu as Reed's "greatest work".

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>>73013184
>Death Grips and Odd Future

>>73016161
then he died of cancer

>>73012933
/thread

>>73013625
None of this shit sounds even remotely similar to anything on Yeezus.

>>73012919
I don't listen to Kanye. Just listened to New Slaves because of this thread. It was absolute garbage. He's incapable of expressing a genuine thought with any degree of poetry so instead resorts to excessive vulgarity. Repetitive as fuck, I saw comments going on about the "beat;" I wonder where along the line in music an overcompressed repetitive synth bassline became more important than everything else. And then the ending you love had absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the song. A complete and utter waste of 4 minutes of my life that I could have spent listening to good music.

>>73016290
now listen to it a few hundred more times and you'll start to appreciate it's artistry,

t. someone who had yeezus clicked on his 33rd listen through

>>73016350
>dude you have to force yourself to listen to it 100 times before you become accustomed to its' horribleness
No thanks.

>>73016290
>He's incapable of expressing a genuine thought with any degree of poetry so instead resorts to excessive vulgarity.
"Y'all throwing contracts at me / You know that niggas can't read"
How is this not a genuine thought expressed with poetry? Yes there is vulgarity for comic effect but there are also many bars like the one I just gave.

>Repetitive as fuck, I saw comments going on about the "beat;" I wonder where along the line in music an overcompressed repetitive synth bassline became more important than everything else
You don't listen to hip hop, do you?

>And then the ending you love had absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the song.
First off since when was there a rule that established that all parts of a single song had to be sonically related. You are stifling creativity with your made up "rules."
Second off you clearly don't understand that the spontaneity is representative of a recurring theme in the album of Kanye's bipolar nature.

It's clear that you don't get it; that's alright because Yeezus is a very progressive and forward thinking album. But I feel bad for you that you are missing out on one of the definitive musical statements of our generation. I would recommend listening again and trying to understand the brilliance of this album.

>>73013046
I WANNA FUCK YOU HARD ON THE SINK!

>>73016437
>Y'all throwing contracts at me / You know that niggas can't read
Looks like niggers can't write either. Do you seriously think that's a good line? Top fucking kek.
>You don't listen to hip hop, do you?
No, as a matter of fact I don't listen to garbage genres forced down my throat by the Jews.
>First off since when was there a rule that established that all parts of a single song had to be sonically related. You are stifling creativity with your made up "rules."
Lol are you serious? It's not a fucking rule it's just basic common sense, if I randomly press keys on a piano it's going to sound like shit because the whole fucking point of music is the ordered placement of notes and sounds, literally the fucking basis of harmony (which clearly you know nothing about)
>spontaneity is representative of a recurring theme in the album of Kanye's bipolar nature.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
THIS IS WHAT YOU FUCKING IDIOTS THINK IS "DEEP"
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
>one of the definitive musical statements of our generation
You're either Kanye West himself or one of his retarded, deluded fans. Either way fuck off and never share your idiotic opinions with anyone ever again.

>>73016516
>the Jews.
I was with you till this

Back to /pol/ faggot

>>73016516
What are you even doing on this board?

>>73012919
Right but is the music any good?

>>73016516
It appears your peabut brain is not capable of allowing you to think intelligently. Why are you even on /mu/?

that's weird cause I felt like the end of New Slaves was the worst part of the album

>>73017162
Wow you sure told him

>>73014013
It can be compared to "On Sight"

>>73015694
Compare "Come Up and Get Me" to "On Sight"

>>73012945
What?

>>73017209
>Post dumb shit
>Expect an intelligent reply
???

>>73012919
no its fucking shit. truth is ye had NOTHING and whoever produced it had to step in and pick up the pieces.

>>73012919
i could fart in your face and you´d call it a masterpiece
shit music

>>73013698
>listens to death grips
>calls other normies

>>73012919
it may have been ahead of its time, but you're saying that on a scale of a couple of years.

come back when you think of a better example for this pasta.

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>>73016516
>I don't listen to garbage genres forced down my throat by the Jews.

>>73012933
This

>>73018387
>listening to dance music

>>73012933
FPBP

>>73016201
kek

>>73013065
>>>>73012919

>>73016437
>>73016290
>vulgarity for comic effect
There is nothing wrong with vulgarity, it doesn't make something less distinguished or admirable.
It's not comedic and it's not overcompensation, it just is. You white motherfuckers got your head stuck in the 1600s with that bullshit.
Actually, first poster I replied to, almost your argument is shit. Let me handle this.
>Repetitive as fuck
You may not have passed 4th grade in English, but repetition is a literary technique used to emphasize a point and is common in poetry.
>I wonder where along the line in music an overcompressed repetitive synth bassline became more important than everything else
The genesis of hip-hop was putting lyrics to a beat, lyricism didn't really come into play until Rakim. This is a genre (unlike indie rock which is full of shit composition and instrumentation) where the beat is as important as the lyrics, some people even consider it more important.
>And then the ending you love had absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the song.
I can't believe I need to explain this to you, it's about the feeling it provokes and it's juxtaposition with the rest of the song.
Kanye's preceding verse ends with "I'm bout to tear shit down, I'm bout to air shit out, now what the fuck they gon say now?".
The outro then feels lifting and optimistic with Kanye singing "I can't lose" repeatedly, it's hopeful and in the context of the song is saying something like "black people have been treated badly in the past and present, but we're not going out like that". Like a subtle version of Kendrick Lamar's Alright.

And don't act like the outra came out of nowhere and is completely jarring. The drums lead us into it and before that there's little high pitched noises that foreshadow what's coming.
The outro also kind of feels in tone like a higher pitched refrain of the part of the song starting at 0:45, eh, maybe I'm reaching a bit this one.

can finally post now that Captcha's fixed.

>>73018616
>You white motherfuckers got your head stuck in the 1600s with that bullshit.
That would Kanye since he can't read or write

>You may not have passed 4th grade in English, but repetition is a literary technique used to emphasize a point and is common in poetry.
Yes. There's good ways to go about it and there are bad ways, Kanye, in his pursuit of artistic integrity falls into the latter.

>The genesis of hip-hop was putting lyrics to a beat, lyricism didn't really come into play until Rakim.
So don't pretend like the lyrics on Yeezus hold any merit at all, they are in fact so bad I'd argue they're damaging to his listeners and his megalomania blinds him to it.

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>I just talked to Jesus
>He said, "What up Yeezus?"
>I said, "Shit I'm chillin'
>Tryna stack these millions"

>Fuck you and your Hampton house
>I'll fuck your Hampton spouse
>Came on her Hampton blouse
>And in her Hampton mouth

>This the cray-ist shit in the club
>Since "In Da Club"
>It's so packed I might ride around
>On my bodyguard's back like Prince in the club
>She say "Can you get my friends in the club?"
>I say "Can you get my Benz in the club?"

>Chasin' love, all the bittersweet hours lost
>Eatin' Asian pussy, all I need was sweet and sour sauce

>Put my fist in her like a civil rights sign
>And grabbed it with a slight grind
>And held it 'til the right time
>Then she came like AAAAAHHH!

>Uh, I'm a rap-lic priest
>Uh, gettin' head by the nuns

>I wanna fuck you hard on the sink
>After that, give you somethin' to drink
>Step back, can't get spunk on the mink
>I mean damn, what would Jeromey Romey >Romey Rome think?

>I am a god
>So hurry up with my damn massage
>In a French-ass restaurant
>Hurry up with my damn croissants

>When I park my Range Rover
>Slightly scratch your Corolla
>Okay, I smashed your Corolla

Thought process of a Yeezus defener:
>The lyrics on Yeezus are some of Kanye's greatest!
>And even if they're shit, it's on purpose and you don't get it!
>And if you do get the lyrics and they're not clever or funny, it's about his delivery anyway!
>And even if his delivery is cringy as fuck, it's about the production!
>And even if the production isn't original and sounds like a kid spent 25 minutes in Ableton with stock instruments, it's supposed to be like that!
>And although the entire album sounds like ass, it's an important album because it was so different from what Kanye had made before!
>Even though admitting this acknowledges that nobody would listen to Yeezus for its musical merits, and it's only appreciated in the context of Kanye's better work!
>Doesn't matter what you say, music is subjective anyway!

>>73012919
>BLACKS TIMBS ALL ON YOUR COUCH
>BLACK DICK ALL IN YOUR SPOUSE

so ahead of its time

>>73019531
Wew

>>73013219
good image. MIA is super underrated

>>73012919
>hurry up with my damn crescents

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>>73019531
>S-Stop asking
>I made all these beats
>while I walk these Kanye streets
>figuring out how people are gonna talk to me when I sit in the house
>D-do I acknowledge the kid in the house?
>With a bad bitch giving wig in the house
>And another bad bitch who just sits on the couch
>If it's just me, then it disgusts me
>How can I just breathe
>Don't mean to be gory with this story
>but I love being me
>Fuck it it's me
>Kanyee
>P-pls fuck with me

>>73012919
>this is what people who've never listened to dälek actually believe

>>73019531

The "Hold My Liquor" lyrics don't really fit with these other ones. The point of it is that he's unraveling and getting past denial.

>>73016105
> Ye isn't normie
Only fans of him left are you virgins and insufferable sorority girls

>>73013310
Come up and get me

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>Kanye album
>Hungarian dad rock starts playing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZR6dfjp6bE

beautiful.

also, like most good things on the album, it has nothing to do with Kanye