http://www.tmz.com/2017/05/25/chris -cornell-fresh-track-mar

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>>72991287
>2017
>believing anything in the press

>>72991287
It's a bummer, man

>>72991305
>oh look it's that guy

>>72991305
This, but at the same time I wouldn't be surprised

>>72991322
The guy who's not a dope?

what kind of dumb fuck still believes the press is legitimate?

>>72991287
>Sad. How likely is this to be true?
Well, pretty much every drug user will relapse eventually unless they die first
combine that with the fact that he had been clean for quite a while
I wouldn't be surprised at all

>>72991287
>the track marks were "obvious."
>t.courtney

Who gives a shit he was a junkie now he's dead

>>72991346
>there he goes, he's all in

>>72991287
This nigga got taken out.

Only question is why?

simple distraction, or something else?

>>72991346
only crazy trumptards and (literally) insane conspiracy theorist people hold that level of distrust in the press
I challenge you to watch msnbc for a day and point out a single lie

it's just a matter of picking reputable sources
fox news is not reputable, tmz is not really "the press" but they get so much good info that they're fairly trustworthy

>>72991305
>2017
>believing the frog meme

>>72991383
That a nice reductionist viewpoint you've got there

>>72991402
i hope you like getting called a shill because that's all you're going to get from this one

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>>72991402
Fucking loling at your life if you are so spiteful to other people politics you blindly gobble up the shit the corporate media feeds you

>>72991346
>muh Trump is a victim of corrupt media fake newz
>Murrrica, MAGA

>>72991433
so you fall into the second category, then

>>72991433
>he follows crazy assholes like Alex Jones
>corp media is corrupt muh breitbart

>>72991402
I challenge you to watch msnbc for one minute and not be a faggot

>>72991402
This. I always listen to what the smart man says on tv or what I read in the paper. Trump got peed on by hookers in Russia and Iraq was harboring WMDs, these are facts. Some people might disagree but those are just idiots and haters, if those stories were not true then why would the media report on them? huh? only idiots don't believe the news

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>>72991402
No one who employs even a little critical thought believes the press.

The fucking NYT had to run an editorial from their ombudsmen saying they were 'rededicating' themselves to the truth.

Fuck outta here.

>>72991465
regardless of politics you have to be a knuckle dragging moron to think that the media has the peoples interest at heart and not the billionaire or corporation that owns it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_model

The propaganda model is a conceptual model in political economy advanced by Edward S. Herman and Noam Chomsky to explain how propaganda and systemic biases function in mass media. The model seeks to explain how populations are manipulated and how consent for economic, social, and political policies is "manufactured" in the public mind due to this propaganda. The theory posits that the way in which news is structured (e.g. through advertising, concentration of media ownership, government sourcing) creates an inherent conflict of interest that acts as propaganda for undemocratic forces.

First presented in their 1988 book Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media, the propaganda model views private media as businesses interested in the sale of a product—readers and audiences—to other businesses (advertisers) rather than that of quality news to the public. Describing the media's "societal purpose", Chomsky writes, "... the study of institutions and how they function must be scrupulously ignored, apart from fringe elements or a relatively obscure scholarly literature".[1] The theory postulates five general classes of "filters" that determine the type of news that is presented in news media. These five classes are: Ownership of the medium, Medium's funding sources, Sourcing, Flak, Anti-communism, and fear ideology.

>>72991402
>Being such a lib contrarian that you actually support MSM

>>72991500
>frogs make the post legit and true
>he can't help himself, it's out of his control

>>72991496
>inb4 someone can't detect sarcasm

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>Tomorrow begat tomorrow

>>72991393
Maybe a story they didn't want breaking was picking up steam.

(see Ariana Grande concert)

>mu is now filled with polsters
This explains a lot.

>>72991523
>muh frog bogeyman

Trump shills always have to ruin any thread that references something non political in the press. Pretty fucking pathetic at this point.

>>72991567
>muh orange retard is a victim

It'll never cease to amaze me how /pol/cucks can turn a completely non-political thread into a solely political thread so quickly

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>>72991506
>Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media
this guy gets it

>>72991568
Yeah you have to be a Trump supporter to know the press is full of shit and this 'suicide' is fishy.

Kek

>>72991287
It has nothing to do with music

>>72991624
A former junky washed up musician with depression relapses and kills himself. What's the big cover up?

>>72991564
Im a fucking communist, liberals are just brain dead morons who maintain the capitalist status quo and are supporting evils like the media or CIA, just to be contrarian

Why publish this? He's dead and anything beyond that is none of my dang business.

>>72991305
Yes, everything from any supposedly credible source is actually a lie and you should only believe nonsensical conspiracy theories, clickbait and youtube videos purporting to show evidence of UFOs

>>72991656
Courtney Love was spotted in Detroit, MI on the night of Cornell's death. She can't keep getting away with this!

>>72991658
>maintain the capitalist status quo
liberals supported bernie sanders my friend
hillary stole that nomination and most liberals had no choice but to support her after that

>>72991706
Kek

That's thefunny part.

TMZ actually is farrrrrr more credible than CNN, Washington Post, MSNBC etc.

>>72991352
It's no surprise that someone would fall off the wagon at some point. There shouldn't really be any shame in repeated stints in rehab.

>>72991745
>he actually believes this

>>72991656
Yeah right. 52 year old fathers don't just up an hang themselves.


Hollywood/MSM is run Mafia style.

Is what it is.

>>72991496
How many logical fallacies can you cram into a single post?

>>72991745
>farrrrrr more credible than CNN, Washington Post, MSNBC
that's just not true
you could go as far as to say that they are roughly equally credible

>>72991723
>bernie sanders
>not a capitalist
come on now

>>72991767
Are you fucking retarded? That's the only explanation for this post.

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>>72991700
You know why they ran it.

To solidify there bullshit narrative.

Maybe they'll make a bullshit film like 'Last Days' in a few years to really hammer down the lore for posterity.

>>72991779
>>72991417

>>72991658
Retarded is retarded, bro. The specific flavor isn't really that important. Go shit up some other board please.

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Hate to bring up tinfoil hat theories but the Illuminati imagery is right in front of my face. Now I'm not too keen on this theory but the clues and facts remain. The man put masonic imagery all over his final album and released a video about escaping a hanging for his very last video. Was he trying to leave hints that he knew his time has come? Theories are starting to pop up, he was aware of the Masons like a few celeberties but i don't know how deep he was. Another scary angle to look at is how close of a resemblance chris had to Chris(t) constantly doing a Jesus christ pose for his fans. Sacraficing while giving your fans and loved ones everything. He was a charitable man and the parrallels are spooky at times. I don't know how to approach this event but their are a few ways you can look at it. 1.the man planned this out artistically.
2.illuminati decided to cash in on a a product.
3. Religious spinon it, I'm not religious but if there was a second coming he was it.
I refuse to believe this gorgeous soul tookhimself out with everything going for him and a family to protect. It's hard to believe this actually happened but looking at the police report it just doesn't add up....the bodyguard broke into the room but never attempted to remove the band from his neck! That's murder in my eyes. I hate to sound like a lunatic but this death has affected me like no other. Trying to make sense of it all. - post from anon last night

>>72991700

Offers closure. Its hard to listen to his music now without knowing his mentality. He seemed so strong enough to beat his addictions even if lyrics like Room A Thousand Years Wide doest imply it

>>72991779
The shills are really mad.

>>72991797
By 'closure' you mean plausible deniability right?

>>72991795
>I refuse to believe this gorgeous soul tookhimself out
and thus the conspiracy theories were born

Actually TMZ were pretty legit as far as tabloids go, then they said lil wayne was going to die, and i got so excited, then he didnt die. And ill never forgive them

>>72991795
>every chris cornell thread
go to r9k

>>72991767
How the fuck is this a conspiracy? It's hilariously dumb to see any media report of anything at all and automatically conclude that the opposite is true. If CNN said the sky was blue you'd shout that it's red.

>>72991656
This pretty much sums it up. All this other shit is aspie sperg out.

>>72991402
>Dude I trust Buzzfeed, CNN, Wapo, NYT, Huffington Post as unbiased news sources
>FAUX NEWS THOUGH AMIRITE

Read Reuters and AP you scrub

>>72991305
literally imagine still using a fucking pepe in 2017. jesus christ kiddo

>>72991797
he didn't write that one

>>72991846
CNN is all bullshit all the time.

The press is bullshit.

No one I know believes any of (((their))) lies and social conditioning.

>>72991804
>everyone thinks I'm retarded
>I must really be onto something

>>72991767
how does it feel to be a complete fucking idiot bro

>>72991854
>FAUX NEWS THOUGH AMIRITE
but it's true, though
Fox news is Americas version of RT
it's the propaganda channel

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chris sold his soul to the devil to be a rock star.
Like a stone is him pleading to jesus for forgiveness

On a cob web afternoon,
In a room full of emptiness
By a freeway I confess
I was lost in the pages of a book full of death;
Reading how we'll die alone.
And if we're good we'll lay to rest,
Anywhere we want to go.

In your house I long to be;
Room by room patiently,
I'll wait for you there like a stone.
I'll wait for you there alone.

And on my deathbed I will pray to the gods and the angels,
Like a pagan to anyone who will take me to heaven;
To a place I recall, I was there so long ago.
The sky was bruised, the wine was bled, and there you led me on.

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>>72991874
>(((their)))
oh god, this should be fun

>>72991874
wow dude you're so fucking woke bro. have fun continuing to be a lunatic

you guys are arguing with a 40 year old man who spends his free time "shining his light" on a lebanese sheep shearing forum

>>72991875
>>72991879
kek, the shills are foaming at the mouth


This nigga def didn't hang himself

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>>72991722
>ywn be raped and then killed by 90s era courtney
why even LIVE

>>72991795
Because a rocker cant sport his hair long and give away to charity without being compared to Jesus, right?

Holy fuck, seriously Cornell wasn't and is not going to be the first one to do that.

Also
>.the bodyguard broke into the room but never attempted to remove the band from his neck! That's murder in my eyes.
Yeah because the bodyguard would love to live fingerprints in a hanged dead body that only he had access to, wouldn't he?

>>72991887
How pedantic

Nice work Shillstein

>someone distrusts the media
>HURR DURR UR TINFOIL HAT DRUMPF FAGGOT CONSPIRACRY-TARD xDDD EVERYTHING REPORTED IS TRUE

this generation is doomed

>>72991874
The funny thing is that you don't exercise any skepticism at all when it comes to sources that tell you what you want to hear. Even when it comes out later that something you read was a complete fabrication or a joke, you'll continue to believe it. Because your critical thinking skills are so bad that they're actually in the negative.

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>>72991925
oh vey, bad goyim!

>>72991897
cnn editorializes and sensationalizes all the time and are known for clickbait. plus time warner literally donated to the clinton campaign no conflict of interest there.

fuck them

why defend those assholes?
there are better news sources

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>>72991910
>This nigga def didn't hang himself

No way dude, the truth always requires an army of shills.

>>72991910
>he's going the distance with this

>>72991910
>This nigga def didn't hang himself
...based on what?

>>72991933
it's one thing to not trust a piece of news but it's a another thing to be a complete autist and think every mainstream media source is "FAKE NEWS!1!11", despite the fact that the shit is literally true

try not being a moron in the future

>>72991964
This story may be right but come on let's not get crazy and defend CNN and Washington Post here.

>>72991933
t. Embryo

>>72991909
this is the only fun you can have on 4chan anymore, arguing with the most retarded people in the world

>>72991951
>I don't mind that they report things truthfully
>But when they spice it up so more people see it
>That's what really grinds my gears!
kek

>>72991988
Oh no, MSM sources definitely have their biases and care more about ratings/clicks than anything else and they may even have an agenda to push but usually when they're just straight reporting facts of an event (like Chris Cornell dying or 10 people were shot) then it's usually pretty straightforward. It's when they get political they inject their opinions and sensationalism in it.

>>72991989
t. zygote

>>72991951
>"The press is bullshit"
> "(((their))) lies and social conditioning"

i'm not defending CNN in particular you just literally sound like an idiot right now

>>72991287
It's 100% true opiate addiction is the #1 killer in the USA since 2015.

>>72992023
>>72992023
that wasn't me bro

different gyu

>>72992023
>using greentext and quotes

>>72991998
All boards have become infested with retards since Mango Mussolini was elected.

>>72991988
>Washington Post

Literally one of the most well respected and credible news agencies in the United States

>>72991964
I remember when bin Laden was killed a bunch of people started tarding out about how you can't trust anything that comes from the government, so somehow the opposite must be true.

As though bin Laden couldn't just immediately release a video of himself laughing at the news reports.

It's an amazing thing to see this shit unfold.

>>72992050
>in the United States
well there's your first problem right there

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Itt: lots and lots of shills mobilized to defend this highly sketchy suicide story.

And btw according to the MSM Kanye was kidnapped because of 'dehydration'.


Shady Hollywood is shady. And the press is a joke.

God I fucking hate /r/politics Jon Oliver Bill Maher watchers and their shitty late night TV quality jokes. Keep your shit off my music board. Goes for both of you. Fuck smug liberal morally superior assholes and fuck tinfoiler Tea Party "DUN TREAD ON ME BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA CIA KILLED CHRIS CORNELL CUZ HE KNEW ABOUT THE GLOBALISTS" retards go back to your shithole corners of the internet and leave my music forum alone.

>>72992044
I think it was gamergate and elliot rodger that really pushed it over the cliff.

It was still retarded well before that even.

>>72992050
NYTimes is cool too.

>>72992079
100% this

>>72991988
>let's not get crazy and defend CNN and Washington Post here.
Oh no, we wouldn't want to defend the Washington Post!
They've only been accurately publishing highly truthful reports for 140 years.
They haven't yet earned our trust!
Supporting this newspaper would be simply "crazy"!

>>72992072
there is nothing sketchy about a former drug addict with suicidal tendencies, relapsing and then committing suicide. holy shit

>>72992099
>hurr drumpf gets pissed on by russian whores
>credible

Have you guys so contrarian that you trust any news company? There is not a single one that isn't filled with garbage and bullshit and it has almost always been like that. None are reputable. Figure shit out for yourselves. Cornell still killed himself b y the way though.

>>72992072
So what happened then, genius? What credible (lol) source do you have that suggests something different?

>>72992099
WaPo is an absolute joke.

Next time don't trash your media properties trying to get Hillary Clinton elected.

>>72992072
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2quonm59Kc

>>72992120
Can we start with you admitting that Kanye west wasn't 'dehydrated'?

>>72992115
yeah because a dossier deemed worthy enough to be looked at by government agencies isn't worth reporting on.

>>72992115
nice citation bruh

>>72992118
This

Get your info from different sources and come to your own conclusions.

Use common sense to weed out the fake shit (it's so fucking easy: how do people even fall for websites like RealPatriotNews.blogspot.com or ThinkProgress or whatever bullshit any asshole could have written that). If you actually believe shit that you read on blogsites or from emails your grandma sends you, you are probably retarded.

>>72992140
>crazy rapper acts crazy and has to be hospitalized for crazy
What a conspiracy

>>72992140
I don't even know or care about what you're talking about in order to create a diversion, the topic of the thread is Chris Cornell. What happened to Chris Cornell? What evidence do you have to suggest that it wasn't suicide following a possible relapse?

>>72992166
he doesn't have any he's just a fucking idiot bro

>>72992164
>I voted for Trump
>Facebook lied to you
>crazy

Sounds like he just went (((off script))) and needed to go in for some (((reprogramming))) if you ask me. Can't piss off your handlers.

I have friends who have personally connections to Pearl Jam. Apparently cornell was back on drugs, which was why Eddie Vedder didn't participate in the Temple of The Dog reunion tour... Ed didn't want to be around the drugs.

Cornell struggled with addiction for a lot of his life and he committed suicide very likely because he couldn't live with being back on drugs..

>>72992156
Yep.

All mainstream media is LIES.

The best you can is examine the evidence and think critically.

Doing that, I believe that this 'suicide' is highly suspect.

>>72992164
Nigga plz.

This is why no one believes your bullshit 'news'.

>>72992184
>this suicide is highly suspect
you must not be thinking too critically

>>72992184
Yes, I checked Breitbart and watched Alex Jones for a while and came to the same conclusion.

>>72992156
People tend to flock to sites that confirm their biases. The average American is a middle aged/old retarded fat redneck white trash tech illiterate and they don't know what a "blog" is so they'll read it and take it as truth just because the Internet said so.

>>72992178
Go back to /pol/ with (((((your)))))) shit

>>72992180
Sure thing Schlomo. My dad works at Nintendo.

>>72992176
I know and I'm trying to get him to realize that.

Of course he won't but it's funny anyway.

>>72992184
What makes you find it suspicious? I worked in a medical examiner's office and it sounds like a normal suicide case to me.

>>72992224
My dad works at Nintendo.

The fact that you niggas are shilling so hard makes it MORE suspect.

>>72992178
yeah it's not like Kanye was ever erratic or retarded before that

>>72992214
This sadly

Our country is 60% retards...and that's just the white people.

>>72992230
>you guys are such shills you don't know the truth
>what's the truth
>lol I won't tell you shill

>>72992211
>everyone that finds something suspicious is a tinfoil hat
I disagreed with him but somehow you're still the bigger retard

>>72992220

I would like to think I'm morally above lying that a friend of mine knows a friend who works closely with PJ

>>72992184
>The best you can is examine the evidence and think critically.

You don't know what that means though.

>Doing that, I believe that this 'suicide' is highly suspect.

k, based on what?

>>72992198
What news are you talking about? Fucking guy had a breakdown and needed a fucking rest. It's not some reprogramming crazy ass retard shit. Wow.

Where the fuck do you people get your news from if not from the press?

>>72991402
> everything in the news is 100% trustworthy 100% of the time, and no one has agendas

God I wish I could believe this

>>72992184
Guess what
Most of the time "the evidence" comes from mainstream media
God you're retarded

>>72992261

If I had to guess either twitter or /pol/

>>72992246
>>72992249
>>72992252
3 rebuttals in 5 seconds!


seems totally legit

>>72992230
I'm not a shill. I'm actually just curious as to why you think that way. You might convince me otherwise.

>>72992261
Infowars obviously

>>72992247
>yes (((Goy))), the government and MSM ALWAYS lie, watch this Alex Jones Joe Rogan Breitbart special bro to see the REAL truth

No you're a fucking idiot. The media very rarely lies about anything. There's no hidden agenda you're all just schizophrenics. Chris Cornell killed himself. Trump is just that incompetent and retarded. End of story. Get out of your bubble you spastics.

>>72992238
on 4chan it's 90% retards

100% on /pol/

>>72992266
imagine having this level of reading comprehension

>>72992254
>>72992269
2 more rebuttals!!!!!

>>72992230
Can I get some free games?

>>72992280
How much is Shlomo Shekelstein paying you to write this?

>>72992261
I don't trust any statement without a direct quote. I read multiple news sources and piece it together. But I don't trust any statement without a named primary source or scientific paper I can read

>>72992295
You got me I'm totally a shill
Honestly I can't tell if you're trolling or if you're just a fucking failed abortion

>>72992261
I think many just imagine something vaguely plausible and then assume it must be true.

>>72992317
that's fair (and honestly, it's what everyone should do), but you're still using the press as a main source of information

>>72992311
He's right though, just because you don't believe something doesn't make it fake news.

>>72992280
>The media very rarely lies about anything.
Neck yourself

>>72992275
Yes, multiple people think you're an idiot and amuse themselves by replying to you.

>>72992343
>Sheisting intensifies

>>72992339
I use them to read the original source. I try to skip as much of the rest of the article though.

>>72992353
Yeah seems super legit.

You niggas suck at this shit.

Finesse Schlomo, not brute force

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itt: shills pretending that knowing the msm is lies is an edgy position

>>72992325
>You got me I'm totally a shill

Me too, because it's super important that the illuminati NWO hegemony or whatever patrol celebrity gossip threads on shitty imageboards lest some neckbeard stumble upon the truth

Tbh if you're taking the stance every MSM outlet lies to you then you're probably still too fucking lazy to check facts for yourself and get all your news from /pol/, Stefan Molyneux, and Sargon of Akkad.
Literally doesn't matter since you're still being mainlined a narrative.

>>72992409
What MSM or alt media do you trust? This is me >>72992317 I have never found a good news source. Closest was local news until around 2014ish

>>72992409
One thing that I find instructive is to go back a year or two and look at whatever those goobers were ranting about and see if you can even remember it. I mean whatever happened to Jade Helm 15 or whatever? They're less on point even than supermarket tabloids.

>>72992403
Quiet anon we shouldn't be giving it away

>>72992409
I fell for the /pol/ meme. I used to post their ironically and make fun of them post-ironically and now I can't stop going there and seeing Jew propaganda in everything. How do I take the bluepill again goyim?

>>72991880
No, Fox news is the right's CNN/MSNBC would be more accurate.

>>72992479
go outside and live in the real world

>>72991287
(((they're))) treating rock stars now like (((they've))) treated rappers for the last 30 years.

>>72992441
all msnbc shows are essentially just non-stop direct quotes with editorials by the host and guests inbetween
the only difference between them is the length of the editorial segments, with rachel maddow having the longest on average

>>72992505
Do you niggas think anyone here believes your Shareblue bullshit? Seriously?

>>72992500
dubs of truth

this was no suicide

>>72992517
'aint got no response for that sir
I didn't say nothen' controversial

>>72992441

At this point you can consume almost any media you want (as long as it isn't like Breitbart or MSNBC) but don't immediately take it at face value and assume it's being nonpartisan.
I watch Potholer54 on Youtube and whether not you agree with his stances on anything, he does show that an article you're reading could be citing a different article which is citing a different article which is quoting a legitimate source (something like the Danish Meteorological Institute), and with each new generation of article something will change.
The only things you can do are read several articles on the same event and begin creating your own insight, or if you read an article see what it's citing and go back as far as you can to read the original piece.

>>72992532
so what happened then, genius? was he about to take out the matrix?

>>72992505
>all msnbc shows are essentially just non-stop direct quotes with editorials by the host and guests inbetween
that's just a lie though. were you the guy i asked the question to?

>>72992500
Yeah Pimp C had a simple heart attack or whatever two days after going on Atlanta radio and beginning to expose the ultra shady rap industry.

That's what the media told me.

>>72992598
you were complaining about degeneracy in a thread that's up right now, what does pimp c matter to you

>>72992554
>(as long as it isn't like Breitbart or MSNBC)
but MSNBC gives you the source when they're reporting on something
in the case of a quote, very often they have the video clip where the thing was said, and they play it
you can't get better sources than that

>>72992598
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pimp_C#Death_and_tributes

>His death was attributed in part "to promethazine/codeine effects"[9] in conjunction with preexisting sleep apnea. Promethazine and codeine are active ingredients in a recreational drug called "syrup" or "purple drank" that Pimp C, like many other Southern rappers, referred to in his music.[10]

>>72992621
The point was the music business IS shady as fuck and the media LIES about it.

It's directly relevant.

>>72992637
It's all a coincidence goy.

>>72992632

If they do then that's pretty great, I just know MSNBC typically has a bit more of a liberal bias which is why I mentioned them-- not that they're necessarily untrustworthy.

>>72992638
Therefore any conspiratorial nonsense you can dream up is somehow magically credible?

>>72992587
how is it a lie?
which shows are different from that description?

>>72992651
It's a conspiracy that the JDL was threatening/extorting tupac and eazy-e et al?

>>72991402
>>72992505
>>72992652
do you work for them are something? why are you defending msnbc so much?
>>72992652
these are all from msnbc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbXfk5lpLew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaaEYC4RDUQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbX7mC9mnJs
ignore the garbage editing of the middle one, but the whole show is basically a series of opinion pieces like CNN and Fox have. But MSNBC is significantly lower in quality.

>>72992668
I thought the thread was about Chris Cornell, I don't really care about whatever other nonsense you want to bring up.

How does "shady stuff happens sometimes according to whatever bullshit I've been looking at" equate to "everything in the media is always a lie" and then "I have some special insight that Chris Cornell's death wasn't a suicide or drug related even though there's no evidence to suggest that"?

>>72992764
>first video
that's some guy who was on as a guest
shit like that is going to happen on every live TV show when you have different guests every day
>second video
what's the problem exactly? the polls looked good for hillary at different times during the campaign
>third video
context is missing? can't figure out what they're talking about
but in any case, she's probably right since polsters did shit on obama for everything all the time

>>72992824
It directly tells you that the msm are in the business of telling the truth about these things.


And in thecase of things like that HBO Cobain doc..??sometimes they just straight mess things up.

Look Cornell could have died like it was reported. It's possible. Butit's HIGHLY improbable.

And given the straight up treachery and deceit the media has been engaged in the last 16 years or so, and given that Hollywood/mainstream music industry regularly engages in shady shit; I don't buy it. I smell a rat.

>>72991402
If you watch MSNBC you're a retard. All media outlets have a bias to them, but MSNBC is one of the worst. They're up there with Salon and Huffington Post.

>>72991305
this

>>72992950
*aren't in the business

>>72992950
*make things up

I should proofread

>>72992919
yea it's trash. i was gonna post one of the worst of msnbc videos, but they are too right slanted. also the polls were never that hard in hillary's favor. 538 was the closest popular one. msnbc was pulling numbers out of their ass. but why are you defending this one news channel so much. even liberal and left leaning people don't like this for the most part.
Also
>189 posts
>32 posters
somethings a little off here

>>72992958
bias isn't a problem if your biased in favor of telling the truth
being "balanced" in your reporting can be much worse than being "biased" when one side of the argument is factually incorrect and the other side is correct

>>72993017
You found a story like say 'clock boy' was reported without bias?

Fergesun?


(everyone knows the answer here)

>>72992950
>It directly tells you that the msm are in the business of telling the truth about these things.
No, they're actually held accountable for what they say and will lose credibility if they report things that aren't verified, or don't retract things that are later proven wrong. Unlike, say, Alex Jones

>And in thecase of things like that HBO Cobain doc..??sometimes they just straight mess things up.
I don't know or care what you're talking about but HBO doesn't even purport to be journalism

>Butit's HIGHLY improbable.
....again, based on what?

> and given that Hollywood/mainstream music industry regularly engages in shady shit; I don't buy it. I smell a rat.
What? How the fuck does that make any sense at all? It's automatically suspicious because you imagine it could be?

>>72993004
> but why are you defending this one news channel so much.
because it's bullshit
everyone shits on MSNBC because it's the cool thing to do and they don't know any better

>>72991287
Literally who?

I figured something like this would come up. True or not, I am sad he's gone. He was a huge influence for me and people I know.

That said, it is really hard to feel bad when someone commits suicide.

>>72993162
You fucking swine

>>72993162
he was the singer of Stone Temple Pilots and Velvet Revolver

>>72993045
Of course there was a bias. Those stories and other like them, however, were simply a narrative that was taken and ran with. If you know something is going to be talked about and go 'viral' if you will, why not let the job do itself?

It is wrong and unethical, but, haven't you ever fucked the dog and let others do the work for you at work?

>>72993107
i just opened up their website to give you a fair shake and almost everything is either an opinion piece, buzzfeed clickbait, or both. look at these titles.
>Jared Kushner now under FBI scrutiny in Russia probe: officials
>FBI probe reaches president's inner circle
>Lieberman: FBI appointment would have looked ‘terrible’
>What Franken said to Cruz that left him speechless
>Are Democrats caught in a lose-lose in Montana?
>Costa: Kushner is the Trump whisperer
why are you defending this so much?

>>72993206
>Velvet Revolver

shit, i forgot he was in that band

he also did a song with Limp Bizkit

>>72993217
the ferguson and clock boy stuff were straight lies that places like msnbc kept pushing. how do you think that's not lying?

>>72993222
I've never looked at the website, maybe that is shit
I was only talking about the programming on their channel

but just because they have clickbait style article titles doesn't mean the content is bad

>>72993263
to be fair, they werent the only ones.

>places like msnbc

you mean other news channels?

It was on all the stations, and their late night shows. it was shared by everyone on facebook and everywhere else.

Journalism is fucking dead man. you can thank the instant access of the internet and the 24 hour news cycle that killed it. also, special interest groups that lobby to have what they want on the news. This is nothing new man.

>>72993276
the first article is citing NBC, it's parent company as it's source. it's just using segments from hardball with chris matthews

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>>72991658
>Im a fucking communist

BAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHA

>>72993352
>louis ck
neolib kingpin

>>72993314
i agree. but the person i'm arguing with seems to believe that these news companies aren't filled with lies and garbage. i don't trust mainstream or alt news in general and think they've both always been trash. but this guy seems to believe msnbc is a good news source for some reason.

>>72993382
>i don't trust mainstream or alt news in general and think they've both always been trash.

that's a wonderful false equivalence you have there

>>72993408
>false equivalence
stop dropping reddit fallacy speak and just say what you mean faggot. what is bad about thinking news companies have been spewing shit since the 20s and that the alt stuff that has cropped up is also trash?

>>72993382
so, let him believe that. it doesnt affect your life at all. how fair is it for you to tell him what to believe?

we are all being lied to all the time. again, this is nothing new.

do the best you can to inform yourselves, and try to live a happy life.

>>72993339
but do you disagree with the content?
the washington post also printed that kushner is under fbi scrutiny
so unless you have some reason to believe this is not true, then you should be ok with the piece

>>72993453
I really don't care that much about deciphering and untangling your specific brand of confusion, sorry.

>>72993463
i mean he can believe what ever he wants, but if he's gonna keep telling other's that it's a reputable source and stuff i'm gonna call him out on it. lso i'm not bumping this thread so i don't feel like i'm crowding the catalog.

this is like the second time i have come to this board. glad to see its the same as every other board here.

>>72993507
yeah it's retarded as fuck

everyone has shit taste too

>>72993468
I checked the washington post and they aren't giving a source. why should i just believe what they say without a source? and they even state kush isn't a target or central focus of the investigation.
>>72993488
whatever you say fallacy boy

This was a fun thread.

>>72993630
>why should i just believe what they say without a source?
Because they're accountable for what they say, they have a credible record, and every other major organization is running the same story.

>>72993630
the washington post protects their sources, which are in this case
>people familiar with the investigation
aka "leakers"

if you believe that the washington post is simply making up these sources, then I consider your position to be pretty much at conspiracy theory level

>why should i just believe what they say [while citing anonymous sources]
because they've been doing this for 140 years
do you think this is the year that they're throwing it all away by making up fake sources?

>>72993453
It's reddit to point out fallacies now?
Yikes

>>72993721
they don't have a credible threat though. that one guy already posted clock boy and Ferguson and i agreed with him. they are shown to spin stories and lie. how are they accountable? they use vague terms and anonymous sources to avoid scrutiny. and they all do it.

>>72993725
>if you believe that the washington post is simply making up these sources, then I consider your position to be pretty much at conspiracy theory level

Especially when the FBI could come out and say "no guys, we're not looking at Kushner, he hasn't come up at all". That would be embarrassing, and the Washington Post, being a real news agency with a reputation to uphold rather than Breitbart or whatever, would be embarrassed and have to retract their story.

>>72993787
>they use vague terms and anonymous sources to avoid scrutiny.
No, they use anonymous sources because the person they're talking to isn't authorized to speak to the media.

If they publish something that is later proven to be bullshit, they lose their credibility.

>>72993787
>they are shown to spin stories and lie
this is nuts, man
can you link me to one example of the washington post printing lies?

>>72991402
TWO SCOOPS!!!

Also if you knew anything you'd know that BBC has gotten caught lying multiple times.

And who was the newscaster lying about doing things?

Use your head.

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>>72993725
why do you keep insisting that because they've been doing it for 140 years makes them more credible. they've changed hands several times. they just have a legacy in lame alone. i think they make shit up all the time because they haven't given me a reason to believe that they are telling the truth.
>>72993732
it's reddit to just say that something is a fallacy without explaining why

>>72993974
its been cucked

>>72993934
t-thanks...

>>72993974
thanks for reminding me that jessica simpson exists

I'd love to chat about how Chris Cornell was assassinated by illuminati black helicopter UFOs or whatever, but that guy left or something and we're all rather bored now.

>>72993995
there's no way of reaching you then
if a 140 year track record isn't good enough, nothing ever will be good enough

>>72993974
people feeling like they got the wool pulled over them about Chris' death, as they should.

>>72991856
>kiddo
Hello underage.

>>72993995
>i think they make shit up all the time because they haven't given me a reason to believe that they are telling the truth.
Do you realize that any time a journalist at a credible organization makes shit up, they destroy their career? If the Washington Post says something wrong that can be refuted, it will be refuted by someone else (say, the New York Times) and they'll look bad. Is that lightbulb not coming on for you for some reason? Whereas supermarket tabloids or Breitbart can publish anything that won't get them sued because they have a gullible audience and no credibility to begin with.

>>72993882
>Russian hackers penetrated U.S. electricity grid through a utility in Vermont, U.S. officials say.
>>72993830
you think everyone tells the truth about their anonymous source?
>>72993799
the FBI said they can not confirm or deny his involvement. how is it a conspiracy to think that news companies lie? i thought this was a commonly held belief.

>>72994096
>Do you realize that any time a journalist at a credible organization makes shit up they destroy their career?

Right so Brian Williams definitely doesn't have a career...

Wait a minute...

He does?

Oh, so you're wrong.

>>72994023
just cause a company has been around for 140 years doesn't make them credible. they've shifted hands several times. they're the washington post in name alone.
>>72994096
washington post is no better than fucking breitbart, but they can both be sued. also new york times is better than WP, but it's still an overly biased source. these places get away with shit by making opinion pieces or being vague with their sources to avoid being called out on it. and then when they are found to be lying nothing happens

>>72994123
>Russian hackers penetrated U.S. electricity grid through a utility in Vermont, U.S. officials say.
How is that a lie?

>you think everyone tells the truth about their anonymous source?
Yes, because they're held accountable if they don't. And if what the source says can't be verified or turns out to be wrong, they won't use that source anymore. They already caught trump aides trying to put out bullshit "scoops" in an effort to trick them.

>the FBI said they can not confirm or deny his involvement.
it's going to come out eventually though, isn't it?

>how is it a conspiracy to think that news companies lie? i thought this was a commonly held belief.
it's a commonly held bullshit belief among people with poor critical thinking skills who trick themselves into thinking they're smarter than everyone else

>>72994123
>>Russian hackers penetrated U.S. electricity grid through a utility in Vermont, U.S. officials say.
that was just a badly worded title that was changed in like 1 hour
the content of the article was not even inaccurate as far as I can tell
this doesn't even qualify as a "lie"

>>72994145
>On February 10, 2015, NBC News President Deborah Turness announced Williams's suspension from Nightly News for six months without pay for having misrepresented the Iraq incident.[5]

Is that what you're talking about? That's not even a real story, that's a stupid anecdote. Anchors aren't the people who do the real work in journalism.

See also: Stephen Glass, etc.

>>72994185
>washington post is no better than fucking breitbart,
wut

>these places get away with shit by making opinion pieces or being vague with their sources to avoid being called out on it. and then when they are found to be lying nothing happens
Are you saying you can't tell the difference between news and editorials?

>>72994225
>How is that a lie?
it literally didn't happen though
>Yes
so was assange telling the truth when he said russsia wasn't his anonymous leak source
>because they're held accountable if they don't
cnn wasn't held responsible for pissgate and are still considered a legitimate news source.
>it's going to come out eventually though, isn't it?
yea. and we'll know one way or the other.
>it's a commonly held bullshit belief among people with poor critical thinking skills who trick themselves into thinking they're smarter than everyone else
so it's poor critical thinking that a man who received at least $600 million dollars from the CIA might have a conflict of interest? there's no reason to think that it might affect that content of his news organization?

>>72994232
how was it not a lie to say that russian hackers penetrated U.S. electricity grid through a utility in Vermont?

>>72994289
>Brian Williams is an American Journalist

right so now you're moving the goalposts to suit your argument. Brian is a journalist who got caught lying and faced a slap on the wrist and his career is as good as ever.

>>72994408
it was clearly a mistake made only in the title, since they didn't say that in the body of the article
a mistake that you fix in an hour is not a lie

Shariablue Jews ITT

>>72994289
the boldface liar works on msnbc still. he has his own show
>>72994313
>Are you saying you can't tell the difference between news and editorials?
i can. but i'm saying the ways that they get away with just selling their crap. why do you suck corporate cock so much?

>>72994360
>so was assange telling the truth when he said russsia wasn't his anonymous leak source
He's not a journalist

>cnn wasn't held responsible for pissgate and are still considered a legitimate news source.
How is that a lie?

It was reported as a part of an unverified dossier from a generally credible source. And bit by bit it's being verified. They didn't write the dossier or claim that it was proven fact. They reported its existence and contents. Nothing was misrepresented.

>>72994428
>a mistake that you fix in an hour is not a lie
it's not a lie if they change recount what they said?
>link to a lie
>how is that a lie?
>it was just a mistake
stop moving the goal post. i just googled washington post lie and used the first website i thought you would trust, forbes, as a source

>>72991352
That is not true dude lol

Plenty stay clean

>>72994360

CNN apologized for collaborating with Buzzfeed on the pissgate garbage because it was so erroneous, so that's why they didn't.
Because they admitted fault.

>>72991402
Fox is bad, but CNN is about 10 times worse.

>>72994415
No, he's an anchor, he's not the person who sources or verifies the information. You can't equate that with someone writing an article based on fabricated sources. And that was the original topic.

>>72994544
>stop moving the goal post
never moved a single goal post
the content of that article was factually correct as far as I can tell
factually correct means there was no lie committed

>>72994544
you can't call it a lie if they take action to correct it

a lie is a deliberate deception, not a mistake or oversight

So yeah, bummer about Chris Cornell

>>72994541
are you actually a real person? why do you care about defending these companies so much? do you defend journalists at fow or whatever with this same fervor what is wrong with you? you wanna just PM me? i'll make a reddit account or something.

>>72994616
>you can't call it a lie if they take action to correct it
the original article was still a lie and they got called out on it

>>72994650
>the original article was still a lie
nope
end of discussion

>>72994659
>end of discussion because i said so
nigga are you real? what's your favorite band and what are their 10 best songs?

>>72994686
who has a favorite band? how old are you?

>>72991287
Wwhy the hell was he running track after a concert, it just doesn't make sense.

>>72994710
>avoiding questions that would out whether or not you actually post here
fine. name one of your favorite bands and their 10 best songs.

>>72994720
finally a decent joke

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>>72994754
What, you think I should prove to you that I listen to music? Your line of thinking is bizarre as fuck. If I were a "paid shill" or whatever and had never been to /mu/ before, couldn't I just find a popular band in another thread in like 10 seconds?

Well, as a matter of fact, I enjoy listening to McRide and The Death Grips.

>>72991305
Americuck

Descartes didnt really think there was a n evil genie, faggot

>>72994859
>avoiding questions that would out whether or not you actually post here
just prove you listen to music lmao

>>72994632
I work for George Soros

>>72994921
he pays my disability so i have to to shill-post on 4chan lol

>>72994912
>just prove you listen to music lmao
No, I'm far too entertained by the fact that you think my "avoiding questions" means something. Like you're onto me or whatever. Like I only listen to Celine Dion and can't pull the name of an indie band out of my ass.

protip: anyone paid to be here probably posts regularly already and is only paid to promote an artist or site or product or something

>>72994999
do you like music holy shit dude? why do you like msnbc so much? it seems barely human lmao. just name one of your favorite bands and their10 best songs. or rank their albums or something.

>>72995070
...what do you think that's going to prove?

are you so paranoid as to imagine I'm a paid shill (continuing to respond to you for what possible reason?), but simultaneously so gullible that you'd be convinced otherwise if I'd just answer your asinine fucking question?

>>72995134
geeze dude i just wanna know you actually post here often. unless you just want to drop this conversation now. i'm fine with that.

>>72993261
>Velvet Revolver
he wasn't' in velvet revolver, that was scott weiland

>>72991305
>implying TMZ isn't the pinnacle of truth in journalism due to the propensity for lawsuits

>>72991287
Opium usage in the US at a high, that slurred performance the night of, his history of friends dying from heroine.
I think its plausible.

>opiate addiction causes premature death

wow i'm shocked thats only true like 100% of the time

>>72991533
Not to be >that guy, but the guitarist, Kim Thayil, wrote those lyrics, not Cornell.

this whole thread is the proof of how terribly modded /mu/ is

>>72994584
He's an anchor, but google him rn

>American Journalist

And his career is in tact. He got in trouble for HE HIMSELF lying about things, and he is a journalist, whether you say he is or not. "Got in trouble" is a stretch, since he still has a job and no one cares.

>>72992050
> pewdiepie is a nazi
> ps give money