kpop general

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i really don't find this type of internet prank to be funny

are you fucking kidding me? is this mod trolling us????

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mallcops

>>72710163
yes, it's kinda sad really

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enough

>>72710152
>twiceboy the ugliest
>cubuggo the prettiest

something isn't right here

truly embarrassing

they do this shit for free, guys

>>72710265
Objectively
1. Tzuyu
2. Mina
3. Momo
4. Chaeyoung
5. Sana
6. Nayeon
7. Jeungyeon
8. Jihyo
9. Dahyun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA2VbDV6NJc
absolute madman

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ok, we will do ranking of idols later

and btw, are you ready for the Lovelyz first win on the Korean music show called M! Countdown for their new song?

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mods please
let me see high res qts all night

>>72710300
>chaeyoung
>anywhere but last place
gave me a good chuckle

>>72710300
>nayeon and chaeyoung above anyone

sorry dude but this is entirely impossible

>>72710314
is this experimental kpop?

>>72710317
>and btw, are you ready for Winner to get their triple crown on the Korean music show called M! Countdown for their month old song?
yeah

lovelyz getting their first win in a few hours

you heard it here first

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>#3 DIA

they made it

>>72710403
>dia higher than iu
wow if dia can do it why were people so crazy about laboum doing it?

>>72710416
thats an irrelevant weekly chart

its been a slow week as you can see lovelyz being #1

>>72710397
I'm not a lovelyzshitter but I really do hope they win

>>72710425
>iu cant even beat juggernauts dia and lovelyz on an irrelevant weekly chart
is iu finished?

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do you guys feel like there's a trend in kpop of liking groups because they're already popular, not because they're good?

>>72710449
Someone said IU could go toe to toe with taeyeon. I guess they were wrong.

>>72710449
yea

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>>72710449
she's finito

>>72710456
stop posting attractive cub, i dont want to be reminded of what we lost

>>72710476
i'd like to say that a claim like that would be bait, but from seeing the shit IU posters have posted the last few weeks I'm not so sure

>>72710456
that's not a trend, that's how it works

>>72710456
That certainly isn't limited to kpop at all

>>72710397
will they give them their phones with the trophy?

>>72710300
>Objectively
>sana #5
>also jihyo not last
well I dont see much objectivity here dbh

>>72710456
literally gfriend
after months of getting trashed for being an ugly gg clone they shot up to the top and everyone acted like they always liked them

>>72710476
>tfw my voice is #20
i guess so

>>72710300
>Mina, Momo, and Tzuyu top tier
my nigga

>>72710456
Yeah there's people who really want to fit in so they go with the flow and listen to what's the most popular. Just imagine if you were in a room of kpop fans and they're all talking about how the top 2-3 groups are their favorite groups and then some guy comes along and says his favorite group is bonusbaby or momoland, he'd look like a loser.

>>72710456
that explains twice perfectly

>>72710456
twice posters that post here have admitted that they only like them because they are popular

Just curious, but how do you guys download your Kpop?

>>72710519
this is so true

>>72710535
>bonusbaby or momoland
of course he'd look like a loser if he said that

the chart has spoken
lovelyz > dia > iu > pristin > twice > exid > taeyeon

>>72710551
Jpopsuki and k2nblog. You need an invite to get into jpopsuki but k2nblog is available to everyone.

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>>72710519
lol

>>72710490
whats wrong with her upper lip

>>72710535
Thing is though, is that bonusbaby and momoland don't make very good music
There's a lot of mid tier groups that make good music but only a few lower tier nugu groups make tolerable stuff (Sonamoo comes to mind)

>>72710563
Is there a difference between 256 AAC (iTunes) and 320 kbps?

>>72710562
yeah like an autist who got drunk for the first time

I love Yeri

>>72710456
*coughBPcough*

>>72710582
64 bits a second

i refuse to get my hopes up for lovelyz first win

i doubt they will even be nominated. too many groups benefit from them not winning a show

>>72710575
Momoland has 2 out of 2 great songs, catchy and memorable, can't say the same for BonusBaby though

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>>72710571
a ton of gloss

>>72710590
bp is good and not popular

>>72710535
no he wouldn't, the ones who don't have the courage to be different and just go along with everyone else are the losers

>>72710592
is there a discernible difference in terms of audio quality?

both momoland and bonusbaby have had perfect releases. they are underrated but will get squashed because they debuted too late and don't have a ioi member

>>72710587
what did he mean by this

>too many groups benefit from them not winning a show

what on earth did mentalcasebro mean by this

>>72710626
itunes gives you cancer, which is bad for your hearing. but other than that no, you can't tell the difference.

>>72710626
depends how pretentious you want to be

if you really want to push the boat out you need to pretend you can hear the difference between FLAC and 320kbs

>>72710634
i've already posted about it a lot with significant amounts of evidence

the conspiracy is real and it will once again be proved in about 6 hours

>>72710556
That's only because they're nugu as fuck. Remember when gfriend first debuted and everyone called them ugly and laughed at their name because it's just 'girlfriend'?. No one laughs at gfriend anymore.
You could get away with mentioning mid-tier upward trending post-IOI groups like WJSN/gugudan/pristin probably but it would get you tons of street cred like being a fellow twice/BP/RV fan

>>72710614
>>72710590
bp is good and pretty popular

>>72710661
>No one laughs at gfriend anymore.
lots of people do

>>72710601
>>72710627
Momoland's debut was good and their new single is pretty bad
Bonusbaby doesn't have a single good song

>>72710592
kek

>>72710626
nah, 128 opus = 256 AAC = 320 mp3 (or V0)

>>72710582
i've seen people explain that the way aac is encoded it's actually the same if not better than 320kbps mp3s but i don't understand it personally

>>72710674
>Bonusbaby doesn't have a single good song
you're right. they have 2. thanks for clearing that up

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I'm all by myself, but it's all good

Only 67 days to my concert boys

>>72710676
>>72710650
>>72710651
thanks, but what's wrong with itunes? i just use that to listen to kpop

>>72710627
People slept on momoland's first song desu. Even a mid tier group like OMG or lovelyz would have gotten a ton of love for that.

>>72710674
new Momoland is my favorite song right now, the live stages are very lively, I wished they had fans, the fanchats are good

>>72710692
omg and lovelyz would never make a jpop song

>>72710691
nothing, itunes is better than every other player but people like to pretend it sucks so they can feel superior about using foobar or musicbee or some shit

>>72710673
They started laughing because fingertip 'flopped' and those 100k preorders turned out to be 50k sales.

>>72710691
It jus uses a lot of memory and is a shit program. I listen to Kpop w/ Apple Music which isn't better though.

>>72710691
I'm the first quote, I didn't say there was something wrong with iTunes, their version of AAC is quite new and it's very good, 256 is transparent so you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the CD and their copy

>>72710712
itunes is bloatware

>>72710685
did you like fact assault

>itunes is better than every other player
when did itunes get flac support? did i miss something?

So what are some good lower tier/nugu groups?
please don't start naming mid tier stuff like Oh My Girl or WJSN

>>72710730
it's just an apple fanboy

>>72710712
I bet you use safari

>>72710736
>So what are some good lower tier/nugu groups?
oh my girl
wjsn

>>72710730
>flac

doubtfuljiae.jpg

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yeri mentioned

Lovelyz 1st win... I don't know

>>72710712
that's wrong, iTunes in Windows is terrible, it's bloated and slow and that's why many complain about it, but works fine on the iPad I sometimes use

>>72710736
Bulldok
Sonamoo
CLC
Momoland

Sonamoo and CLC have a ton of songs compared to most of the low tier groups but they don't have anyimpact

>>72710730
what's wrong with aiff or wav?

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>>72710727
Oh shit I didnt even realize GD had a part on that album.

>>72710712
>>72710718
ah, ok. I have an iPhone and listen to my music via the Music app.
>>72710717
Isn't Apple Music = iTunes? Or are you referring to the PC program

>>72710736
how far do you want to go? PRITZ was good, if you liked Dreamcatcher

MIXX was good, myB was awesome, Year 7 Class 1 is a lot of fun

>>72710764
nothing else can do smart playlists, so itunes wins every time

>>72710771
nothing, it's just inferior to the ogg vorbis master race

lol if you think itunes in windows is bad normally, try it on a 4k monitor
it runs around at 10fps as opposed to 60 on osx

every day i come here someone is talking about lovelyz either winning their first show or never winning a show.

why are you all so obsessed?

>>72710772
>>72710727
It's shit besides GDs part. I hate Psy's rapping voice

>>72710788
>Year 7 Class 1 is a lot of fun
and they're rereleasing their song soon

>>72710736
tiny g had some really good songs imo.... too bad they couldnt make it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-MXLmNnarQ

>>72710792
Clementine has really good smart playlists

>>72710770
Sonamoo also has a lot of songs with choreographies for a group that is not famous at all, they could already have a lengthy concert... if they had fans. I'd go though

>>72710710
Yeah they will

>>72710736
kpg used to love blady

i dont have any performance issues with itunes on windows, what are you people talking about

>>72710816
>not the first post from this ip
probably you who brought it up

>>72710842
how much RAM do you have

>>72710861
16gb

>>72710819
really? is that why they released those acoustic versions of their old songs?

>>72710816
don't tell anyone, but I'm adding Lovelyz to my posts so it's music related (it's not like I'm off topic though)

>>72710831
I feel bad for sonamoo. People make fun of groups like OMG and lovelyz but sonamoo is just as old and struggling way harder even though they work so hard.

>>72710770
I wish cube would quit being so retarded with CLC, they debuted so strongly
also I remember once reading somewhere that people tend to dislike Sonamoo in Kora because their name is wierd. It means pine tree

>>72710818
whats your opinion on the rest of the album? didnt bobby and bi have a song too? i havent listened to the rest of it yet

>>72710861
>needing RAM to run itunes
bravo, apple

>>72710869
yeah, that's probably why then. itunes tends to be bloated

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>>72710822
tiny g mentioned
name disbanded nugus you miss most

>>72710842
when I had like 256mb ram itunes as a pain in the ass to use desu

>>72710874
>whats your opinion on the rest of the album?
basic yg shit unfortunately. i was hoping it would be good since i liked the mv songs but its pretty shitty up and down

>>72710888
tint

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nREEyUJ5rH8

wtf i only have 2 GB RAM

>>72710873
That's a cute name imo

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>>72710871
yeah, I was also having weird feelings seeing D.ana on the teasers of Idol Drama, like they don't have many chances of shine and she was very shy and not very memorable... makes me think they're truly never going to make it

>>72710874
Haven't listened to it in full yet.

>>72710831
I might look at it, to be fair it's been a long time since I tried other players.

>>72710888
d-unit
evol
glam
5dolls

>>72710509
She got infinity wins already on the shows, had all 10 of her tracks as the top 10 in the charts for a while, and got 3 PAKs from the album. No way is the claim bait. Maybe Ailee can outdo her? I have no idea how an oldfag like her does in comparison.

>>72710893
was this in 2002?

>>72710916
how? old PC?

>>72710905
oh yeah I liked them too :(

>>72710950
these are the types of posts i mean

>>72710873
>also I remember once reading somewhere
I think it was in the ranking from soldiers, I guess that when you think about it, sounds like a retarded name, "Pine Tree", the girls actually dislike it, they said the CEO wanted that name

>>72710950
just ignore him
everyone knows iu kills everyone on digital

IU KILLS EVERYONE ON DIGITAL? HAHA!

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>>72710888
still miss them every day

>mods start banning people that just post pictures
>kpg realizes we need to discuss kpop
>we just talk about nugus and itunes ram requirements
But seriously Sonamoo is a good group

>>72710929
She must be feeling a ton of pressure now that she has a huge chance

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>>72710929
oh i was looking forward to that show
do you think she'll have a minor presence or something?

>>72710873
>>72710972
where do you guys get english kpop news that isn't trash

>>72710953
no 2008

>>72710966
Everything posted was factual, though. Will you say that Bieber is not successful just because you don't like him, next?

>>72710972
it sounds just like mamamoo too

>>72710988
careful bro, iushitters have their finger hovering the report button at all times

>>72710993
what happened to them
the one who was sick is fine now

>>72711032
they all split up

>>72711029
lmfao too late

why is the archive always down, its so fucking shitty

>>72711012
I occasionally check reddit and my phone recommends kpop articles to me

Twice has some good songs fuck you guys.

>>72711060
>my phone recommends kpop articles to me
???
>>72711029
sorry, im new to this community, but why would someone be reported and subsequently banned for that?

IU's music fucking sucks

>>72711007
I guess her only chance is to be with Seulgi or Somi (maybe Yooa too) so she gets screentime like Sunhwa on Invincible Youth

IU's music fucking rocks

>>72711064
good catchy songs, cute members, but no discernable talent apart from momo dancing.

>>72711064
I agree. which songs do you like?
>>72711074
why?

>>72711012
r/kpop and here

kpop... news?

>>72711026
Yeah at first I thought they were a sister group to them or something
>>72711073
The google app and my browser recommend things based on browser and youtube history. Sounds spooky but it's pretty useful

>>72711092
if I need talent I'll call the mamamoos

>>72711117
gossip, basically

i dont get it either

>tfw you wake up at night and sleep in the morning
kpop for this feel?

>>72711102
just kidding i only wanted attention
last fantasy is one of my favorite albums

>>72711136
>x released a new song
>gossip

>>72711142
oh shit, mine too. I also like the Spring of Twenty

>>72711102
Honestly most of page two and the story begins is pretty good.i think I'm crazy, Next page, and 1 to 10 are wonderful.Melting is nice but I hate nayeons high note.

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new VIXX soon guys let's look forward to it.

>>72711137
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQJr1bPMof0

iu's music doesn't suck, it's really good

but its boring. i like kpop for the fun dance music not the emotional baggage bullshit

>>72711163
Really Don't Like Her is so good, I can't believe it was the least paid attention to track of the three. I still watch that Remocon recording every once in a while.

>>72711173
I can tell just by these outfits that it's going to suck

I only care about one group in kpop so I don't pay attention to what the other groups are doing

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i miss you so much

MNet M Countdown
Thursday 11th of May
6:00PM - 7:30PM KST

Lovelyz
Hyukoh
Hong Jin Young and Kim Youngchul
DIA
Laboum
Momoland
MonstaX
Varsity
Berry Good
Bonus Baby
Snuper
EXP Edition
SF9
Oh My Girl
EXP EDITION
Cheon Danbi
Triple H
Navi
Produce 101
Han Dong Geun
Hwang In Sun

EXPECTED NOMINEES
Lovelyz vs Winner
OR
Lovelyz vs IU
OR
Lovelyz vs Hyukoh

Streams
http://mwave.interest.me/video/onair.m
https://aqstream.com/mnet/Mnet (official one, you need to be registered and logged in)
Also quick shoutout to anon who keeps the stream pastebin maintained while the archive is dead this contains all directories for music show lineups https://pastebin.com/zk0k3Ltc (embed)

Countdown
time.is/6pm_in_seoul

>>72711195
which one

>>72710590
i like bp for the girls and music

>>72711206
>no more pristine

I sad

>>72711207
clc

>>72711206
EXP edition is written twice
AQstream is not the official stream

>>72711179
pretty sure a lot of people feel that way which is why she's not as popular internationally

same reason why kpop fans are always surprised that korean charts are so different from their taste

>>72711206
>lovelyz nominated thrice

nice

>>72711179
Tbh i just wish she'd drop the age meme

It's bordering on lazy at this point imo

>>72711221
he wasn't talking to you retard

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>>72711191
you should decide that by the album teaser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSAGxuWO10g

>>72711173
i'm not exactly quivering in anticipation but it's been such a bland year for gaypop that i just hope they deliver on the weird theatrics

>>72710995
way too underrated... just like CLC

>>72711230
>lovelyz
>thrice
i knew it all along they can't wait to see twice fall

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>>72711204
Mina ballad when.

If Lovelyz loses to Winner I might end it

>>72711206
>EXPECTED NOMINEES
>Lovelyz vs Winner
>OR
>Lovelyz vs IU
>OR
>Lovelyz vs Hyukoh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnlnBY-a-oQ

>>72711237
yea he was

winner doesn't lose, otherwise they would be called loser and not winner

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>>72711248
i felt the same way for their last cb but then The Closer ended up being one of my favorite songs of the year so, who knows what can happen

>>72711137
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CTced9CMMk

>>72711256
they will win, put the gun down anon

>>72711255
never hopefully, she has too weak of a voice

>>72711255
genuinely the prettiest member

>>72711260
nope
shut up now, you're stupid

>>72711262
flawless logic

>>72711259
wtf is that shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mslmi0saruY

laboum is going to help lovelyz win

i graduated from kpop

>>72711137
it's 6am here and I start to get drunk, will sleep through the day and will wake up around dusk... talk about fucked up daily rythm

laboum and lovelyz fucking suck

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love of my life. Suck it Dad!

im gonna have a panic attack if lovelyz doesnt win

>>72711299
are there some leftover chicken coupons or something

I haven't been keeping up with kpop recently.

Who is this? Is it some nugu or a solo from some group?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT05GiMlY4g

Because she's pretty good.

How can anyone like Pristine? It has to be the girls right? Jesus the music is atrocious.

>>72711314
SOMEONE CALL THE DOCTOR NAL BUTJAPGO MALHAEJWO

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>>72710822
J.Min was a qt too

>>72710941
>d-unit
These I really miss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzEEwAeNr0Y

>>72711339
black widow is song of the year

>>72711331
She's the maknae of Girls Girls. That's her first solo

here's more clips of her dancing, she's awesome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ng1WqVupGU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmxbURG_5C0

>>72711331
she's from girls girls (dont know them tho) ... this song is a banger

>>72711339
there was a literal pedo with a wife and kid here yesterday explaining how much he loves one of the underage members so it must be

>>72711344
the barking is unironically my favorite artistic choice in ages

>>72711344
love the barkings in the song

so whats gonna happen to the kpg after lovelyz wins? for years you said they would never and now it's only hours away.

the entire landscape of the kpg is about to change and you gotta figure out which side you're on.

>>72711309
i noticed a lot of people on 4chan get fucked up sleep patterns so i think its sort of normal here

>>72711339
Kpg shows how people have different tastes in an interesting way. For instance, personally I can't stand the old generation of emptyish synth tracks by groups like SNSD and T-ara, and the production values back then didn't help. Still, there are plenty here who will fight to the death that new styles of kpop are stale and dead in comparison.

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>>72711374

>>72711373
we're gonna cry with them, and they won't be the gatekeepers of middle tier kpop, but the gatekeepers of top tier

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Mnet M Countdown
6:00–7:50 PM KST

Kim Yong Chul & Hong Jin Young
Navi
DIA
Laboum
Lovelyz
Momoland
Monsta X
Varsity
Berry Good
Bonus Baby
Snuper
SF9
Oh My Girl
EXP Edition
Chun Dan Bi
Triple H
Produce 101
Han Dong Geun
Hyukoh
Hwang In Sun

http://mwave.interest.me/video/onair.m
http://dailymotion.com/video/x4y48qo

http://time.is/6pm_in_seoul

There’s also an eating show on V Live with DIA’s Chaeyeon, Jueun, and Yebin at 10:00 PM KST.

http://vlive.tv/video/29541

>>72711365
wtf

>>72711339
wee woo is so fresh and new sounding

>>72711409
thanks gary

>>72711388
Same. Old kpop is fucking trash in every possible way to me everything sounds like babby's first fl studio track.

hapas for life

>>72711339
I don't like pristin much, but recently listened to wee woo and well it's a terrible song, but really liked the part from 0:31-0:38 and I felt it was really a pity the refrain is so shitty, since that really sounded fucking nice to me.... the other songs are okay, but in the end really made me feel like they are way too overhyped... they're popularity and sales are definitly not based on their music imo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLfHuClrQdI

i like both old and new kpop equally

>>72711424
neck yourself my man

>>72711432
same. not sure why people have to shit on either one, it's like picking mj or bieber, both are good and should be enjoyed.

>>72711416
i think i'm too late actually

What do we think about k lesbians' taste in idols
https://youtu.be/ZgyMz9GO-Xc

>>72711440
you are but it's okay

>>72711442
why would i care more about the opinion of a lesbian?

>>72711418
kpop doesn't seem to age well apart from a few standout groups, but I guess that's true of all genres

you should only be worried if your group is selling under 10k albums for a comeback

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>>72711442
why sit through a shitty video when we can just repost the list that get circulated every month

>>72711442
tl;dr

All SM groups are Lesbianpop, as well as Mamamoo.
Nothing new here.

>>72711473
>Crystal

>>72711418
i think that's its charm at least from today's perspective
it's so simple and cheesy as fuck, listen to this shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAqiMCp9zrI

>>72711388
>Kpg shows how people have different tastes in an interesting way
>in an interesting way
isnt basically every kpop community like that? it's not just kpg where ppl have different tastes and defending old/new styles like lunatics

>>72711481
SM groups are liked by everyone, mamamoo is ONLY liked by lesbians

there is a difference

>>72710873
how do you see the debut as a success? the song was good, mind you

>>72711492
don't forget the intercrural enthusiasts

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>>72711409
Thanks for including the liev, I've been dropping the info for fans.

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>>72711339

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>>72711492
Yeah okay bud, if you're butch that's fine we don't judge here.

give me you's: the thread

>>72711455
much better than some neet's opinion who browses an argentinian cake decorating board 16 hours a day dbh

if we had any ambition we could make a ranking video shared on crappy kpop forums across the world

>>72711509
I'll give you a (You), friend!

>>72711513
why?

psy new face is catchy af

What got you into Kpop and when did you get into it?

t. BIGBANG's Haru Haru

>>72711486
now that's what I call 2010 god damn.

>t.

>>72711409
gary puttin in the work

>>72711530
hyuna - bubble pop
first music video to ever give me a boner

>>72711530
Twice Like Ooh Ahh (not joking)

>>72711530
Gee but Abracadabra is what hooked me

>>72711535
is it actually, actually that actually though

>>72711530
tell me

>>72711521
It doesn't take much to be better than a smelly neet.
>>72711530
aoa's miniskirt
I miss how popular they were.

>>72711530
one of the MVs that played in between starcraft tournament matches

>>72711530
I honestly don't remember. That happens with a lot of things I follow for some reason even if it's not that old of a hobby. I might be slightly retarded now that I think about it.

this might be the lowest amount of images i've seen in a thread for a while

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>>72711339
https://youtu.be/-I0oTE6oO3s

i'm sorry mobile mmos aren't throwing money at your group but don't lash out like this

>>72711557
you havent explained why their opinions matter more

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>>72711442
Tiffany over Yoona. Doyeon top IOI choice.

Patrician lesbos tbqh

>>72711530
dream high 2bh
got into iu, t-ara, and miss a

>>72710563
You wanna invite me ;)

>>72711530
lol Cheer up
summer last year.

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I'm not really a binnie guy but wow she's looks amazing here i just had to save this pic

>>72711538
same here
except the boner part

>>72711530
gee for first exposure
b.b.b is what got me

>>72711455
well judging from that video their taste is bretty solid
some glaring mistakes but the top 10 is nice

>tfw all of these replies make me realize how little time groups have before fading into obscurity

>>72711457
That might be true to some extent, but I think it is really obvious that the industry started getting its shit together and not just because technology advanced. If you go compare older tracks like Roly Poly, Gee, and Bad Girl Good Girl to newer tracks like Rookie, Wow, and Night Rather Than Day the difference is huge. Even if you hate those newer songs the audio quality difference and better use of frequency space/instruments is hard to deny.

>>72710712
word who cares that it takes minutes to open

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>>72711594
binnie a goddamn cute

>>72711605
kpop groups have varying degrees of lifespan with girl groups having a huge disadvantage lasting like 4-6 years before dying out (some outliers)

>>72711614
>minutes to open
it's time to upgrade from your 2002 dell dimension anon

>>72711530
SNSD- girls generation honestly, such a good song

my favorite girl group is going to last forever

>>72710712
I use winamp still. I don't give a fuck.

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Not gonna lie I was surprised to see Irene tied for first in that lesbo list with Krystal but that's nice I guess

>>72711644
yea i should just get a 3000 dollar mac to listen to music

>>72711530
i want nobody nobody but you~ clap clap point clap clap

>>72711647
based spice girls fan

>>72711530
gee - 2009

>>72711530
You and I got me to listen to Last Fantasy and I was surprised.

>>72711581
I miss Suzy with bangs.

>>72711663
a 1000 dollar mac will run itunes just fine

>>72711640
The key is to have concepts that attracts more female fans since they give groups they're into longevity
Those are the rules SM follows iirc so I hope rv will last a long time like gg

>>72711679
or you can run any other player on a 2002 dell

what is your guys prediction for the future of kpop... more groups only lasting a few years or groups still going for that 10th anniversarie?
I personal feel like there will be groups just riding the bandwagon for a relativly short period and then die again and only groups under big entertainments have a chance to last a little longer

I've been on kpg for the past 3 hours already... oh no

>>72711530
Secret during SC2 Days was my first exposure (shy boy, madonna etc)

Then I loosely followed the scene on and off, not sure exactly when I started following more, but I want to say it was shortly before CL went to the states

>>72711640
girl groups can last long too but most of them just got unlucky
2ne1: park bom
t-ara: bullying
miss A: greedy suzy
kara: radiostar hissy fit
aoa: history thing
4min: greedy hyuna

what happened to the

>>72711703
>3 hours
fucking lightweight

>>72711713
fx: lazy bitch sulli

>>72711701
I think national casting shows like p101 will definitly play a major role in the future

>>72711713
suzy was the only one doing any work while the rest just vacationed for 300 days a year

>>72711605
I think groups like EXID girls day and apink proved you can make it if you're persistent enough but there's lots of groups who last just as long and never go anywhere

http://www.vlive.tv/video/29801

>>72711729
be nice its his first day

>>72711713
aoa are doing fine

>>72711703
>I've been on kpg for the past 3 hours already... oh no
this must be bait, 3 hours are nothing

>>72711751
everything below lovelyz level is not fine

>>72711736
That will suck if the popular groups are all very temporary like IOI

>>72711713
aoa were already on their deathbed at that point

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>>72711607
>>72711605
For sure, modern production values eclipse everything that came before, but I think there's more to becoming timeless than cleaner beats and broad instrumentation. I think the idea is that Kpop moves along so quickly and it's so competitive that newer music is always valued more highly than older music because of charts, playcounts this week and other dumb metrics that ignore musicality. All this contributes to a conceptual bias against older music being worse than the present's.

>>72711759
>thinking aoa is doing worse than lovelyz

laughing

>>72711763
heart attack was a hit tho

>>72711738
Fuck, I am glad EXID stuck it out, Eclipse made it all worth it even though it is a mini-album.

>>72711737
To add to the baseless rumor pot, I heard JYP was severely restricting Suzy and probably the whole group in general seeing as it didn't seem to lead to much more Miss A.

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>>72711530
cheer up and here i am one year later as kpop trash

>>72711768
lovelyz outsold red velvet this year

>>72711701
The gap between the top groups and the bottom one is a lot bigger than it used to be and the new mid tier groups don't seem as iconic as the old mid tier

I think it's going to keep alternating between lots of nugus debuting and then very few debuts because the nugus keep flopping and it scares off new debuts and groups are going to disband a lot sooner than they used to

>>72711751
you might wanna check their sales... I know 'muh sales', but well their not doing fine according to them

>>72711778
>The gap between the top groups and the bottom one is a lot bigger than it used to be
uh, no its not

>>72711736
Agreed. The success of these shows will be impossible to ignore for production companies. With both Twice and IOI coming out of these shows the correlation is too tempting.

I continue to believe the general Korean public primarily gets their pop music through TV, so it's a natural evolution

>>72711777
delusional

is there a show on or something

>>72711798
nah the guy that usually makes the threads is in an autism battle

>>72711783
yeah it is

twice is way popular than any group from the last 10 years

>>72711784
momoland tried it and no one cared tho

>>72711810
lol

>>72711761
it will but I'm afraid it will be like this... I mean IOI was very succesful and the post IOI groups (gugudan, pristin etc.) are gaining much from this popularity, so I guess company's manager will see this potential

Im going to make a sinb thread

>>72711810
>twice is way popular than any group from the last 10 years
lol

>>72711815
twice makes snsd look like laboum

>>72711810
gr8 b8

>>72711778
trickle down kpopnomics

>>72711769
Lmao

>>72711848

>>72711845
taking out your phone for damage control...

>>72711815
>>72711825
twice is actually more popular all the time, ofc IOI was a big hype, but sales, views etc... they couldnt reach twice

>>72710120
80's Jpop is better then k pop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3sU6DMzG1I