Is Grimes groundbreaking? Will this artist be regarded as a legend

ill be dead so w/e

>>72524743
>Is Grimes groundbreaking?
some of her stuff is

>Will this artist be regarded as a legend in the future?
yes

her only legacy will be her dogface, apologies to actual dogs

>>72524766

>>72524743
No one outside of /mu/ knows who the fuck this is.

im sick of hearing about my waifu every day this is actually hell

>>72524743
What ground did she break?

>>72524766
>>72524846
It's sad if you're 2 old men browsing this "board". Enjoy the rest of your life.

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>>72524865
>No one outside of /mu/ knows who the fuck this is.
Not even these folks?

>>72524872
Musical ground. In other words, she did some original music. Prove me wrong.

>>72524872
what once is lost will never be found
keep spinning in circles until you break the ground

>sweatymustache.jpg

>>72524879
would you keep me alive?

>>72524872
she was the first woman in top 40 to sport a mustache

Her first two albums were interesting but then she watered it down, and then some more

It's trash now

>>72524743
Definitely. Ask /classical/, they love Grimes.

>>72524890
Art Angels was so fucking bad what is wrong with these people

>>72524968
Not Beyonce?

>>72524743
no, no

>>72524879
i won't

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>>72524743
Yas and she is my future wife <3

>>72524895
g2b David
>>72524890
>Prove me wrong.
original music =/= breaking ground
Unless you think Nickleback is also groundbreaking?

>>72525141
why did she have to exist

>>72525141
so why isn't she your wife already? if you really belonged then you wouldn't still be getting nowhere and hating every passing day of your life

>>72525371
for our pleasure

>>72525433
soon, anon

>>72524978
You just don't like it. No biggie.

>>72525246
>original music =/= breaking ground
Wot?! Original means unique. Never attempted before. Hence, ground breaking. Checkmate.

>Unless you think Nickleback is also groundbreaking?
They never claimed to be original.

>>72525654
>Never attempted before
How does this describe Grimes music though?

>>72525627
what fed you confidence or hope to think that would happen? who's doing this to you?

glad the groundbeaking meme took off

>>72524964
>It's trash now
>hating pop music
>implying that all pop music must be trash because of his personal bias

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>>72525723
I saw the future and we were together there.
Me and my loved one, the only one, Claire Elise Boucher.

>>72525723
also why? is it meant to be fun? it isn't

>>72525683
>How does this describe Grimes music though?
Nobody attempted to do her music. Sure, people did synthpop decades before her, but not like this. There are some familiar patterns but overall it's unique. Name a truly similar artist to her if you can. Someone with a range of songs from Heartbeats to Scream, from Be a Body to Laughing and Not Being Normal, from Sagrad to Kill V. Maim.

>>72525770
how long ago was that?

>>72525791
>but not like this.
>unique
How so?
>Name a truly similar artist to her if you can
Bjork? Pulp?

>>72525791
how are people meant to attempt a style of music that isn't already established without needing to create it themselves? it's like if you asked somebody else to be grimes, it's just, whatever

>>72525815
>Bjork? Pulp?
No. You didn't even to her music is you claim these 2 artists are even remotely similar to her. As a matter of fact, post at least one Bjork or Pulp song similar to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2EJMd7ZN7w
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsYt1-5MXT4

Well?

>>72525850
Sorry the links aren't workign for me

You'll have to use your words to prove your claim.

How is this specifically unique?

>>72525850
It's just electronic beats and a heavily delayed female voice

How is that unique?

>>72525883
>I don't have ears
>You'll have to use your words to prove your claim.

well, fuck off then

>>72525837
>it's like if you asked somebody else to be grimes, it's just, whatever
In this world where everything has been done, to have something unique to yourself is a huge feat. Having your own style, your own niche, is the hardest thing as an artist. Say what you will, but you can't confuse Grimes with someone else. So, she broke new ground by making something nobody did before.

>>72525927
you both need to stop shitposting

>>72525927
You made a claim. if you can't support your argument, it's probably not true.

Self evidence is not an argument by the way.
>>72525946
>>72525946
>In this world where everything has been done
If everything has been done, then Grimes is not unique.
>she broke new ground by making something nobody did before.
See >>72525914

>>72525946
alright, i can make that case for death grips though. i think you get my point already

>>72525914
>being this shallow
It's like claiming classical is all the same: same violins, tuba, pianos,... on every "song". Or that MBV is just a rock band with heavily delayed voices and guitars. Bullshit. It matter the end result: the actual music.

>>72525966
>You made a claim.
That wasn't me. But you seriously need to fuck off if you keep on arguing and don't even want to bother listening to her music. Your posts are considered shitposting from now.

>>72526030
>It matter the end result: the actual music.
Them by this logic, Nickleback is original/unique.
>>72526039
>But you seriously need to fuck off if you keep on arguing and don't even want to bother listening to her music
If your logic was sound, it wouldn't be necessary. Just state what's specifically original or fuck off.

>>72525974
You could. I'm not a fan of them but I can't deny they did some original music.

>>72526073
>Them by this logic, Nickleback is original/unique.
By this logic? No buddy. By your flawed logic. As I said, the actual music matters. And Nickelback's music has been done before with better results. Hence, they're not original, but mere copies of copies.

>>72526105
you don't like original musicians? guess you're not worth talking to

>>72526073
>If your logic was sound, it wouldn't be necessary. Just state what's specifically original or fuck off.
That's a different anon. Be more careful.

>>72526170
>you don't like original musicians?
I don't necessarily like any musician just because they're original, great, whatever. I like what I like. It's a cliche but that's the truth.

>>72526177
>That's a different anon.
Do you agree with him?

>>72526205
you like whatever you choose.

>>72525966
>In this world where everything has been done
>If everything has been done, then Grimes is not unique.
>not getting the fact that "everything has been done" is a figure of speech, not that everything has been literally been done (e.g. teleportation is still a sci fi concept)
I meant that it's harder these days to make something unique in music when so much has been done before already. You have to push the limits and find new ways of artistic expression.

>>72524784
>only real talent
>being that much better
>what is manipulation and why is that always my only approach until someone tells me?
Say something original. Always interesting to follow your train of thought - skew skew!

>>72526256
>you like whatever you choose.
Not even that. Liking something is a visceral thing, something beyond your control. Like falling in love.

>>72526274
Oh I see. "Grimes is unique" is just a figure of speech and literally isn't unique either.

>>72526317
>moving the goalposts
>drawing wrong conclusions

Nickleback aren't meant to be a complicated or heavy metal group, they're clearly a group of simpletons who can brilliantly articulate themselves and speak for the masses in an easily listenable way.

They're not even industry plants, they rewrite all their own songs, all by themselves. Every tune is original and significantly identifiable for Nicklebacks trademark brand of rock music. What they're doing isn't intentionally commercial tripe, like Tame Impala. They're a pack of honest dummies who have kept rock music relevant. They're a pure rock band right down to rock n roll's shallow core.

>>72526471
Now that's a good b8

>>72526548
People liking Nickleback is a good bait.

>>72526548
People liking Tame Impala on the other hand isn't even bait, that's easily something more pretentious than an uncultured Nickleback fan.

>>72524865
t. Person Who Never Leaves /mu

>>72526471
Not really
>what are oranges and apples

>>72526769
everyone likes those

Do you think she'd make a good politician?

>>72526804
not really I think she's corrupt

what could she be doing?

>>72526838
Nah, she's good in the end.

>>72526893
her life is very good

>>72525966
If you can't be bothered to analytically listen to the music posted...

>>72526548
Truth always makes for the best bait.

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>>72527006

>>72527006
There's no truth without an overview though.

>>72526950
That's called being rich

>>72526420
>the conclusion is wrong if I disagree with it
>>72526952
If you can't prove it, it's not true.
'
Still waiting for your "evidence" that she is unique

>>72527614
I know what I feel

>>72527673
>Still waiting for your "evidence" that she is unique
Not that anon, but use your ears. Listen to her music. Do you know someone similar to her?

>>72527628
being wealthy, and having people care about you

>>72527759
are there really people trying to be like her?

>>72527759
Self evidence is not a valid argument.

>Do you know someone similar to her?
A female singer with electronic beats?

Take your pick. How about Bjork or Ray of Light era Madonna.

>>72527796
>Take your pick. How about Bjork or Ray of Light era Madonna.
Wrong examples. They sound nothing like Grimes except for using some synths. Let's face it, you picked them because they're female artists too. That's not enough for your argument. Fail.

Just what I thought: you pretend Grimes isn't unique and yet you can't find even one counter example.

>>72527835
>They sound nothing like Grimes
Why not? Explain

>>72527845
>vicious circle
>>72525850

>>72527930
>Explain
Self evidence is not an argument.

try again

>>72526804
I get a feeling that's a riddle.

>>72526804
ya

Is this the Grimes general

>>72528738
Kinda

With regards to the question
Ya she's focking great

>>72524743
meh

>>72525654
>>72525791
You're retarded

>>72529112
no u

>>72527673
>If you can't prove it, it's not true.
Musical taste is subjective. It can't be proven true or false because those are objective terms that can only be applied to objective things. What is your subjective analysis of these two songs >>72525850 based on listening to them in the context of the original question asked?

grims

>>72527796
>Self evidence
>what did he mean by this
Anon, are you actually implying that we are sentient personifications of Grimes' songs posting ITT? 'Cuz if so - what drugs are you on desu? And where can I get them too?

>>72530625
yes i remember grims too

>>72527956
>Self evidence is not an argument
...because it's a redundancy.

So why do you keep bringing it up in support of your own argument?

>>72529112
(You)

>>72530612
>If you can't prove it, it's not true.
Where are your arguments, buddy? You didn't post any examples to my request, just random shitposting. Are you going to post those examples or keep shitposting?

>>72531031
>Where are your arguments, buddy?
Where are yours?

>You didn't post any examples to my request,
Because someone else already did ITT here >>72525850
What other current artists are, in your opinion, making songs that sound even remotely like those two particular songs - or others - Grimes has produced recently? Post some back-to-back examples or gtfo.

TIL Grimes fans are insanely retarded

Maybe. Her next couple of albums will really decide that, though.

>>72531418
>Because someone else already did ITT here >>72525850
>>>72525850
That's my post, dummy. Read it again. I actually said that Bjork and Pulp are NOT similar to Grimes and I asked you for similar songs. Do you even know how to read?

Post those examples or gtfo. You're wasting my time.

>>72531534
>describing his own mental health

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I like Grimes but the threads really don't have anything substantial imo. Here's a nice grimes photo.

>>72531837
Lol fyi you are actually the one who responded to the wrong person desu. I was backing up your point.

>>72532258
The why did you say here >>72531418
>Where are your arguments, buddy?
>Where are yours?
???

On that post (>>72531031) I asked the same thing (post examples). I don't know what kind of troll you are, but you did a complete mess. Basically you pretend to be on my side but reject my points at the same time.

>>72532410
*Then

>>72532410
>The why did you say here >>72531418
>>Where are your arguments, buddy?
>>Where are yours?
Because I'm the one who posted >>72530612 in response to >>72527673
Remember - these threads are a multi-way conversation.

>>72532134
thanks

>>72532538
I don't know what exactly is your stance here, but I'm out of this mess.

>>72532654
>I don't know what exactly is your stance here
Grimes music sounds virtually nothing like Bjork's (or Pulp's ??? - have NO clue why anyone would think this) music, based on actually listening to it.

>>72532134
i wish she did more modeling like this, she can pull off some looks that nobody else could

>>72532742
OK, I returned to reply to this:
>Grimes music sounds virtually nothing like Bjork's (or Pulp's ??? - have NO clue why anyone would think this)
This is what I said, ffs. Follow the chain of posts.

Start here >>72525850 Shame I don't have an edit function to fix those stupid mistakes. I said that anon didn't even listen to Grimes' music if he claimed that she's even remotely similar to Bjork and Pulp.

My 2 cents.

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>>72532650
No worries, here's another.
>>72532805
Agreed. Grimes puts a lot of effort to look, for a lack of a better word, conventionally unattractive, but she really pulls it off when she tries to look prettier.

I only lurk grimes threads for photos to collect.

>>72532857
>This is what I said, ffs. Follow the chain of posts.
I was. Hence why I posted >>72532258

>>72533032
never call her unattractive again

>>72533245
My bad.

what's the perfect grimes banger for having a brick thrown at my head?

>>72534136
Kill V. Maim

Strange request tho

Grimes

>>72534957
my life

"I'll never b ur dream gurl"
How do I cope

>>72535303
what if Plan B was actually Plan A

>>72524865
my english teacher played a song by her the other day. It was a pretty shit song and it was awkward as fuck when he did it. All I had her by her before was Oblivion which I though was ok, this shit he played was annoying as fuck.

>>72535553
>my english teacher played a song by her the other day.
Why? What song was it?

>>72535553
Give details this sounds funny
How old are you and him

>>72535553
it was me

I dont see why she should be

>>72535641
>>72535683
If im being honest it was a just okay song. The instrumentals were good, but the vocals where really annoying, like they really brought down the song for me.

I just went through her top tracks on Spotify and the song is Kill V. Maim. my opinion still holds, pretty good instrumentals and even melody, but those fucking vocals man... makes me feel like im playing dance dance revolution.

Im 18 and he's late 20s/early 30s I believe.

he didn't play the song in the background either, he played it for us with a pretty high volume and everyone was quiet.

>>72535763
it's a lot bettr live

>>72535763
>makes me feel like im playing dance dance revolution.
That was sort of the idea behind it desu (see https://soundcloud.com/hrishihirway/song-exploder-grimes )

>he played it for us with a pretty high volume
Yes, but why? How does randomly playing songs in class fit with teaching English? Was it supposed to demonstrate something class related? Do tell - I'm curious.

>>72535836
>That was sort of the idea behind it desu
well that makes a lot of sense, still, would never listen to that personally.
>Yes, but why? How does randomly playing songs in class fit with teaching English? Was it supposed to demonstrate something class related? Do tell - I'm curious.
I walked into the class and he was having a conversation with some students that seat in front of his desk about music. As everyone started to quiet down for the class to start he said "This is Grimes" and put that song on for its entirety. No one looked like they were enjoying it desu. He was kinda quietly singing along to it at parts and bumping to it too.

>>72535763
KVM is a good song. It may take some time to get used to her peculiar vocals, but once you do...

>>72535947
>still, would never listen to that personally.
Eh. Taste is subjective (personally it's one of my favorites.)

>He was kinda quietly singing along to it at parts and bumping to it too.
Lol your teacher sounds like a cool dude desu.

has anyone actually heard a Grimes song on the radio, i've yet to

>>72536064
I heard "California" play one time while passing a clothing store

>>72535947
Pretty weird. He should have selected Realiti -- it's more accessible.

Listen to it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9XKLqGqwLA

>>72536064
No. Granted, I hardly ever listen to broadcast radio anymore. I have heard her songs played in malls/department stores though.

>>72536062
>Eh. Taste is subjective (personally it's one of my favorites.)
agreed, not calling grimes shit or anything, just not something I would listen to
>Lol your teacher sounds like a cool dude desu.
he is, we also watched Shaun of The Dead that same class (it's a satire class), so he obviously wants us to have fun in his class

>>72524879
why did you put board in quotes?

>>72524949
kek

i heard Genesis in the food court once. congrats Grimes, you made the food court.

>>72536368
I heard her at a Microsoft store desu.

>>72530831
>So why do you keep bringing it up in support of your own argument?
I showed you two examples in support of my argument.
>>72530699
Misdirection.
>>72530612
>Musical taste is subjective
I never mentioned taste. This is misdirection because you can't answer the question
>What is your subjective analysis of these two songs
I already stated that they are not unique, electronic beats with a heavily delayed female vocal has been done before. Read the thread

>>72536731
>I never mentioned taste.
Hence how we can tell you're just shitposting ITT.

>I already stated that they are not unique,
You said you didn't listen to them. How can you critique music you've never listened to?

>>72536731
>I showed you two examples in support of my argument.
Where ITT are the links to your two example songs?

>>72536064
I heard California at Blaze Pizza the other day

>>72536731
>>72536869
We're waiting...

>>72536839
>Hence how we can tell you're just shitposting ITT.
How so?
>You said you didn't listen to them.
I did eventually listen to them
>>72536869
I never posted any songs. What are you talking about?

i hope she's being good

>>72536064
I hear California literally everyday

claire

>>72537604
Where? What kind of venue?

>>72537678
almost everywhere
every time I turn the radio on theres that song
I'm sick of it already

>>72535947
Honestly think if I showed anybody in my class this stuff, they would roast tf out of me

>>72537708
which version?

>>72537731
that one that sounds like shit (like any grimes song)

>>72524743
grimes will be permanently forgotten in two years because her music is fucking trash

/discussion

>>72537758
that's not funny

>>72537708
>every time I turn the radio on theres that song
What kind of radio is it? Does it have a metal antenna

>>72537708
>>72537758
>>72537777
>shitposting in a Grimes thread
Edgy.

>>72537777
you don't care if you even like it. why make bullshit statements? for what benefit?

>>72537708
Damn I live in Trinidad and nobody fucks with this.

>>72537819
isn't grimes a bit edgy herself?

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>>72531874
sick greentext comeback bro

>>72537893
why post this

>>72537819
>enjoying grimes
waste of oxygen-y

>>72537911
stop

>>72537827
every shitpost i create just gets you that much closer to finally killing yourself and i think we can both agree thats a goal worth striving to achieve

>>72537962
where did that come from?

>>72524743
Unironically yes:
>The range allows guitarists to create setlists from custom preset groups with Fender also catering to beginners by including advice on basic amp knowledge for less experienced users. Fender has further enhanced the range with playlists created specifically for the amps by artists such as Grimes, Joe Bonamassa, Josh Klinghoffer, and Scott Ian.
http://www.mixdownmag.com.au/fender-announce-wireless-mustang-gt-amplifiers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQgpQIji-VE
http://www.musicradar.com/news/fender-unveils-wi-fi-bluetooth-enabled-mustang-gt-guitar-amps-world-first-hands-on-video-demo

At this rate, by the end of the decade, nearly every musically inclined youth just starting out with musical instruments will have had the chance to interact with some piece of equipment assembled with Grimes' creative input.

>>72537877
Are you attempting to pretend to be Grimes?

If the Brave Little Abacus isn't being remembered as groundbreaking and legendary then Grimes has no chance

>>72537911
>listening to music consumes extra oxygen

>>72537962
why do you want me to kill myself? be honest

>>72538040
no, you breathing consumes extra oxygen

so stop fucking breathing, forever

>>72538019
no

>>72538068
or you could give people some space

>>72537962
>>72538068
Fyi shitposting on /mu is against board rules.

>>72538068
But that bears no relevance toward listening to music.

>>72538080
So then what difference does it make?

I think so. She is a legendary

>>72538120
he's being obnoxious and using bad words so it must be important, i bet he's tall too

>>72536086
lmao

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grimes a cute

>>72538189
Was just about to post this comment earlier but I forgot

>>72538139
probably if i felt good about it or not

Grimes is legendary at making me horny for Canadian trailer trash

>>72538203
thanks for sharing

>>72538223
that's your fantasy

>>72538223
see
>>72538240

>>72538189
at her worst, she becomes cute, it just pops out and she can't avoid it

>>72538349
well am i right?

>>72538019
ok maybe

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SHE'S NOT GROUNDBREAKING

she makes synth-based pop music that's mixed badly. idc if you like it but stop trying to pass it off as some visionary masterpiece. it's nothing that hasn't been done a million times before.

>inb4 butthurt anon tells me to post something that sounds like her and then autistically scrutinizes every minute difference
no. there's nothing that sounds EXACTLY like grimes. typically there's nothing that sounds exactly like any other given artist because people don't usually blatantly steal other people's music.

BUT if you can't hear the similarity between her music and the majority of other synthpop/dreampop artists, then you're delusional.

if you want recent stuff that's ACTUALLY groundbreaking then try any of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2KsccOJy1w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56y8DPVTX14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt5tRaV3iY0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibFM9FNhsVs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNckU2ZHxd8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9PK8MvoZ_Y

>>72538599
>it's nothing that hasn't been done a million times before.
Okay. Go ahead and post a million links to SYNTHPOP songs by other artists that sound ALMOST indistinguishable from this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpAsOEsamA0

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2KsccOJy1w
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56y8DPVTX14
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt5tRaV3iY0
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibFM9FNhsVs
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNckU2ZHxd8
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9PK8MvoZ_Y
Anon, what is supposed to be groundbreaking about any of these songs you posted? People have been making cringily overdone noise compilations and passing them off as music for thousands of years.

>>72538858
>cringily overdone noise compilations
if you're not even going to take the time to listen to the music that i posted, or conversely, you're so musically illiterate that you actually think those are noise, then i'm not going to waste my time arguing with you.

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>>72538599
thanks for the recs anon

>>72538903
>if you're not even going to take the time to listen to the music that i posted
What about you listening to the ONE song that I posted? Where are your links to one million SYNTHPOP songs that sound almost indistinguishable from a song that contains absolutely NO ELEMENTS of standard synthpop? (What you would've noticed about this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpAsOEsamA0 if you had actually listened to it.)

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claire

>>72539026
she is fucking awesome

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>>72538189
>file size

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>>72539294

The reason gay men make better music is because straight men only listen with their dicks.

>>72539417
>what did he mean by this

>>72538952
you're welcome<3

>>72538975
blindest is he who does not wish to see. it's synthpop with lots of reverb anon. get over yourself

>>72539981
>it's synthpop with lots of reverb anon.
There are NO synths in that song. Apart from six notes played on a regular old piano (3 during the song's intro, 3 during the outro) The entire piece is composed entirely of acoustic guitar, distorted electric guitar, electric bass, drums, and vocals.

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night night Grimes

>>72540077
either way, it's a generic pop song anon. i can't even believe that you're trying to say that traditionally-structured pop song is experimental and groundbreaking. that's seriously offensive to artists who are working their asses off to be cutting edge.

listen to some actually avant garde music and then compare that with what you're calling groundbreaking

i'm not saying it's bad, but it's so far from experimental

i hope our grimey is sleeping well

>>72540103
i took that pic :3

>>72540184
>either way, it's a generic pop song anon.
Is this a generic pop song?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhNxvoXOKcI

Or this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHmVqMISPLw

Or this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HweaxUT43Jc

Or this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKQiAdB9Z78

Or this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEduIMg7e40

Or this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oMYcZT9OTw

Or this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aqp3Ic8iwWE

>>72540295
Lol hi Marilis.

>>72540309
Forgot to add,

Or this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsbiyvpel54