/classical/

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrBTp-ZwcwI

Mozart is underrated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1MIgBxnyng
Post your favorite early Mozart.

>>72392506
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zib_hS_j-U

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While looking for a release by early music group Musica Ficta, I was surprised to find their name on an album of Danish folksongs. Turns out it was another group with the same name, but the music really gripped me and reminded me that I never really dug into Nielsen's songs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZXrlCUuPvc

>>72381879

I agree. We need to make something like this happen.

>>72392860

Good luck. /tv/ can't even make /film/ happen.

I remember somebody once posted a MEGA folder with a bunch of cool Mahler stuff like Schoenberg's arrangement for Das Lied, does anybody still have that?

>>72393208

This is all I found, doesn't seem like what you're looking for

>Arnold Schoenberg - Complete Quartets (Juilliard Quartet / V0)

Decent intro into the Second Viennese School and "atonality". Each quartet gets progressively 2deep4u. Intense stuff though, great when you're angry.


https://mega.co.nz/#!yRMGERyR!aAeHKS2SbmkuY0naG7v1C0TpITVPLinxQxjaeHazrOY

Gustav Mahler - Symphony No. 4
>Iván Fischer, Budapest Festival Orchestra
https://mega.co.nz/#!vdZxxCRb!e7fHUxLho-2V1-a0tgo-nF13-dsiCKYgjWr4d9vfnes

>>72393208
https://mega.nz/#!GccDXLSD!3G2J4d4_gfjX2Fsa5boR9T3qf7t0dF689EKkHpbd6Ps

Trout

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEtjB4darUk&list=PLZBBWxS3mBv-q5BLRZ2hIB95QcJCkFw8v&index=1

>>72393081
it should be called /cin/

Been on a Dvorak binge lately.

>>72394551
So how many times did you listen to his 9th symphony?

>>72394576
Been listening more to the 7th and 8th, actually

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hi /classical/ gents. /jazz/fag supreme here. im doing a project on the 3rd movement of messiaens quartet for the end of time. i heard theres a recording that messiaen put his stamp of approval on. does anyone know anything about this? i usually look for recordings on deutsche grammaphon and i see they released the piece on there but i dont know anything about messiaens personal approval of it or anything

>>72392860
maybe make one on 4+4chan?

>>72395259
Messiaen put his stamp of approval on many recordings. At some point I think it just became a formality.

Though if you want the ultimate in authenticity, you need go no further than a recording he actually played in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwSIfgpGDZU

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>>72395361
oh man, this is perfect! thanks!

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Post Scarlatti

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>>72396437

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>>72395361

Oh God, what is this quackery.

>>72393081
That board is too far gone by people coming over from Reddit, Twitter and Tumblr. It would never work.

>>72396788
so it's just like /mu/ then

>>72393724
>Gustav Mahler - Symphony No. 4
>Iván Fischer, Budapest Festival Orchestra
>https://mega.co.nz/#!vdZxxCRb!e7fHUxLho-2V1-a0tgo-nF13-dsiCKYgjWr4d9vfnes

It's 404.

>>72396575
Hipsters love it.

>>72396788
All boards are like that now.

>>72397288
>Gustav Mahler - Symphony No. 4
>Iván Fischer, Budapest Festival Orchestra

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKbfdovenzA&list=PLeFyD69ElkpSymZbaN5VcZrzS6jk9HvNi

bempers

>>72398076

I mean I like old movie scores, but this is so saccharine at times I want to vomit.

Is this Mahler? What's the big deal?

>>72391803
So there are like 900 albums in the OP. Where do you recommend someone who knows nothing about classical start?

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>>72399978

Well, if you're going to start at the meme level, might as well start with one of the best memes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izc0-3TntH4&list=PLuZaXmbLNZEeLq-fU10RQEeKqY9synAgu

Adams bump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_kVc8mrElg

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Can someone give me the basic rules of species counter point? At least the first two because im looking at all these different books and vids and their giving me different answers.

ded general is ded
don't make a new thread

Petzold

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animefags please come back.
dis general be ded without chuu.
do you like wagner? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=891JUSQplzU
wagner and anime, go!
(pls post)

>>72402442
i killed all the animefags

>>72402458
why would you do that? the animefag shitposts innitiated like, 70% of the discussion itt

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schmelzer chaconne https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGAEpnUSUEg
bertalli chaconne https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76phq9-KHi0

post more chaconnes if you have the cojones

Riddle me this: why is Bel Canto so much better than any other canto? Why is Donizetti such a beast? What's his secret?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFH0wLG77m4

Liszt is good, /classical/ can suck it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hko1TNkgUUE

>>72396437
I have a better idea. Post Scarlatti[s]:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VovHmfHzkM4

>>72403723
/classical/ likes Liszt a lot

>>72403913
I find he's kind of hit and miss. Some of my favorite pieces are from Liszt, but I have to skip through a fair amount of what he did because I just find it kind of shitty. This is probably because he did so many pieces though, I can't really expect them to all be great.

>>72403913
Why is /classical/ shitting on Liszt all the time then?

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Does anyone have an upload of this? It's only available on vinyl.

Petzold

>>72403913
>>72403986
>/classical/ is one person

>>72404453
try plooomysunday

>>72404453
http://nitroflare.com/folder/4824/L07dvdWxkU2NodW1hbm5QaWFub1F1YXJ0ZXRPcDQ3MjQ0NA

>>72402481
haha no

What are Bach's best cantate? Like top 20 or so

>>72405754
BWV 4
BWV 10
BWV 35
BWV 49
BWV 78
BWV 82
BWV 137
BWV 140
BWV 188
etc...

>>72400373
NEWS NEWS NEWS NEWS
NEWSNEWSNEWSNEWSNEWSNEWSHASAHASAHASAKINDOFMYSTERYYYY

What are the best compositions for basso profondo?

I know it was basic pop for rich people but this shit is so catchy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zegtH-acXE

>>72406693
Russian church music: Bortnyansky, Rachmaninov, Kastalsky etc. Mussorgsky's operas and his Songs & Dances of Death. Gubaidulina's John's Passion.

>>72402720
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxyNxRMaBYw

Furtwangler vs Karajan

>>72407258
Klemperer

>>72407316
That''s not one of the options I gave. Furtwangler vs Karajan

>>72407258
>>72407328
Karajan. His Madame Butterfly is beautiful.

>>72407328
Keilberth

>>72405567
This website is a fucking joke. You have to wait 180 minutes in between each download time. You have to stay on the page while the minute long countdown timer goes down. You get 20kbps download speed. Jesus christ. Who the hell would sign up for an obscure download website like this anyways? It's not like it would have a bunch of stuff that you actually want.

>>72407529
there used to be like hundreds of sites like that. maybe still are

>>72407529
>waaaaah I don't want to wait, give free stuff now
Or you can just buy it

>>72407603
On vinyl? I don't have the technology to rip it to my computer, nor do I have a quality receiver or way to rip the files to my computer. Nor would I want to rip whole unsplit lossless files from a vinyl record.

>>72407763
It's on amazon in mp3s, its on HDtracks in flac

>>72407126
>>72402720
chaconnes are so best.
is there any dance music that comes close?
no, there isnt.

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>>72407937
Händel + Chaconne + Richter = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtI5vs-LSkw

>>72408023
faggot

>>72405819
don't forget BWV 54

>>72408053
No u

>>72407529
Use Jdownloader.

>>72408059
And BWV 202, 198, 112, 147, 134 and so on and so forth. Almost a third of Bach's cantatas are phenomenal, one other third are very good, and the last third are merely good. There are a handful that are pretty meh.

>>72407258
Furtwangler, I avoid everything Karajan.

>>72392557
sorry but glenn just doesnt get mozart right.
I know he is a monster on bach etc. but i feel he is just not as expressive on mozart.

>>72408237
>he is a monster on bach
Don't know about that. The piano isn't a harpsichord.

>>72408315
But Bach composed on the clavichord.

>>72408315
You're right the piano is better than the harpsichord.

>>72408379
So? Why is Gould playing his compositions on the piano then anyway?

>>72408398
Not for long. I'm working on a new plucking system. It gives the harpsichord a similar sound to a pedal harp, but the same dynamic range as a pianoforte.

Richter > Gould.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZuUiNdqt6Y

>>72408495
Richter > Richter > Gould
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v1-jCo4Rh8

>>72408590
I think I've just found my favorite WTC on the piano,

>>72394275
says not available for me

>>72408315
dont know if the goldberg variations would sound as beatiful on harpsichord. to each his own i guess

>>72409056
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce6XFDKEcF4&t=2029s

>>72409640
brilliant
but I think im still a bit biased towards the piano interpretation ,maybe because I grew up with it. I feel that the volume control which the piano brings is crucial to such a delicate piece. Again maybe thats just me

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>“Mozart in the Jungle” actor Malcolm McDowell is being lined up to play German composer Richard Strauss in the movie “Legacy of Fire,” producer Timothy Haas announced Friday.

>The production, set to shoot at Bavaria Film Studios, Germany, in late summer, centers on Strauss’ battle to save his Jewish daughter-in-law Alice during the Nazi period.

>>72408237
Glenn's a great pianist but he fucking sings while playing so all his recording are trash.

Best recording of any Mozart piano concerto?

>>72410001
>yet another Nazi are monsters, woe is us ,(((Hollywood))) movie

Spare me.

>>72410111
Mitsuko Uchida

Wonder why we don't see any Hollywood movies about the evils of communism....

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>>72410111
Love this one

>>72410146
Apparently she recorded all of them. Will get them.

>>72410184
Thanks.

>>72410111
Edwin Fischer if you can handle old memes

>>72407603
kys

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Reminder that Veracini is the greatest melodymaker of all time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3z-7H1QEao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LeItI7AF3E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkTX4mBWHb8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnCBYFM13lA
>>72396437
>D.
Discarded.
>>72402720
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg1ZzYblmeM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja7ugHH8DtM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EayZ8K5P4us
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPkWBbmV2FE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxyNxRMaBYw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJluqMBk0ks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAxPVTuEdeo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi77IHsYelA
Is this enough?

>>72410166
Muh 6 gorillion goyim

>>72410864
faggot

>>72408315
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZX_XCYokQo
greatest bach interpreter.

>>72410001
>Legacy of Fire
Does that title actually have anything to do with Strauss? Sounds ridiculous

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>>72407937
>Passacaglia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5ai80pyCYg
>La folia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuoxyjQzcYY
>Passamezzo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uljhNmG8V5M
>Zarambeques
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyApB2g9UsI
>Fandango
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNdlWXlTAK8
>Bouree-rigaudon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4wTNNHsSDE
>Allemande
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3N0xFcxcac
>Courante
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nxs5zZecNrA
>Gavotte
https://youtu.be/Y8mE9lzLFGs?t=92
>Sarabanda
https://youtu.be/SFR-KLSCd1E?t=527
>Gigue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlA9m29Uszs

Have you listened to William Grant Still, the third most underrated black composer behind only Mozart and Liszt?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OXmKehGDmE

>>72407820
Fuck off kike shill.

>>72411492
faggot

>>72411554
Technically all composers are black.

440hz=8. 8= Saturn worship. 432=9. 9=Universal Love.

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>>72411843

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYmC0Z6x7KQ
What do you think about Ives? He's tough for me but this movement from Concord Sonata is pure bliss, especially the folk tune at 3:02

>>72411963
concord sonata is magnificent tbf

>>72411874
one of the worst memes

>>72410166
Midnight Express

>listen to female composer
>her music is absolutely horse crap

What a surprise.

>>72412146
which one pffam?

>>72412146
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BQgfSfMG4E
you poor bastard

>>72412146
Who was it?

>>72409056
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2NzQUPmwjc

>>72412165
Gabaidulina.

>>72412178
Auerbach I bet

>>72412082
We see above an interesting relationship between the 432 and the number of completion arising as we look at this material below. The numbers suggest that the “universal” or solar constant of 432 has to do with the “completion” (or completeness) of the manifest material world.

Diameter of sun = 864,000 miles (432 x 2)

Interestingly 8+6+4 = 18 (1+ 8) = 9 the number of completion
Diameter of moon = 2,160 miles (5 x 432 = 2,160)

2+1+6+0 resolves to a 9, as does 4+3+2 = 9 and 5 x 9 = 45 and 4 + 5 = 9 as well.
Precession of the Equinoxes of Earth = 25,920 years (60 x 432) [x]

2+5+9+2+0 also equals 9, while 6 x 9 = 54 and 5 + 4 = 9 also.
Interestingly, the leading acoustician in Beethoven’s time was Ernst Chladni (1756-1827), the godfather of cymatics. His music theory textbook explicitly defined C as 256/512 Hz, the “scientific” tuning. (The A above middle C in this standard scale is 432 Hz.)

Perhaps this is to do with 432 squared — 186,624 (1+8+6+6+2+4 = 9) — being within 1 percent accuracy of the speed of light, (186,282 miles per second, which also resolves to a 9!). The square root of the measured speed of light is 431.6(!) By deductive reasoning, we might speculate that “notes tuned relative to A432 harmonize directly with the light body [auric fields] allowing the vibrations to penetrate, and through entrainment, bring your energetic essence into balance. Entrainment is the tendency for a strong vibration to influence a weaker vibration.”[xi]

Inversely, A=440 tuning may produce a dissonant or “agitative” effect on the aura/mind — and anything that disrupts/disturbs DNA will create contraindications in the aura due to DNA’s innate sound-light translation mechanism. The human aura, of course, is the closest thing we have yet been able to point to as “consciousness” or “mind” in the manifest measurable world, as I demonstrate in The Grand Illusion : a Synthesis of Science & Spirituality.

>>72413007
Numerology isn't funny.

Why is /classical/ the most pleb part of /mu/
or even the most pleb thing on 4chinz

>>72413211
Because you posted here. Your presence makes anything immediately pleb.

Hindemith

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOu527EwVqY

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>>72410111

>>72414308
damn that's some garbage design

Petzold

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOVF-33A9HI

>>72400105
>>72399978
I have the same question but I need more than this lazypost
What era should I try? Should I go by composer? Should I look for certain popular pieces?
how does this plebbit post look? https://www.reddit.com/r/classicalresources/comments/13mteq/a_playlist_of_20_great_classical_works_for/?st=j1y8xzmh&sh=239fb498

>>72414382
Really putting me off even to pirate the album.

>>72415117
It's great content though, tbf

What bach organ works should I listen to tonight

>>72415401

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWEZrKDQHMU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZpIoZp-k-Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h1liecJJ_s

>>72393081
>>72394309

No, they need to make /cel/ - celebrities or /pop/ - pop culture or something, then /tv/ would vastly improve

>>72415735

/cp/ - Celebrities & Pop Culture

>>72415735
I agree, but it'd still be nice if the TV and film parts were split

Are there any good classical pieces in memoriam of the holocaust?

>>72415768
Parsifal ofc

>>72415768
beethoven's 9th

>>72415514
perfect thanks

>>72415768
4' 33''

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>>72415768

I got you senpai

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vXtywOlayc

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Post Brahms

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>>72417154

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>>72417605
>Hidamari Sketch
>Amanchu
>Geijutsuka Art Design Class
>Koufuku Graffiti
>Yuyushiki

>>72417605
>1. Discuss music, artists, and instruments here. All images should relate to the topic at hand.

>>72417679
see
>>72417687

>>72417679
These are all garbage btw

Needs to be an /arts & culture/ board, maybe not on 4chan since it's a lost cause
But somewhere

>>72417920
I mean you can make a website for Arts and Culture if you want.

>>72417950
I wouldn't know how

What are the best symphony that has a full orchestra and chorus? I cannot stop listening to the second Mahler symphony because the finale is so glorious. And before you harp on me about not listening to whole symphonies, I almost always have a CD for it in the car.

>>72418607
there's nothing else in the world like that, honestly

>>72418607
Mahler's 8th symphony is even better

>>72414974
>even wiki says it's by Petzold
Is this some sort of elaborate troll?

>>72410864
so many chaconnes!
noice

>>72411492
Bocherinni had a knack for street music.

>>72418607
I can't blame you really, Mahler 2 is just filler until the mezzo starts singing.

>>72419757
Jokes on you, I like the first and third movements.

How to trigger /mu/ "pleb" shit is sometimes good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSE15tLBdso

>>72419898
>>72419757
I like all of it. What now?

How come the lute went out of favor?

Ok. Here it is:
(cw: antisemitism, Holocaust mention)

Whenever we hear about him, Wagner is remembered for revolutionizing opera and helping move tonality to its greatest heights. And while this is mostly true it is also very important not to gloss over the fact that he was also one of the biggest anti-Semites that ever lived, openly espoused his racist views in his operas, subscribed to the idea that races shouldn't mix, had a bastard son with Liszt's daughter, catfished a gay king to settle his debts, and that his music was used extensively by the Nazi party in efforts to show "pure" and "real" music as well as to demonstrate the virtues of Teutonic music to prisoners of concentration camps. The fact that we can still perform his music today without discussing many of the issues that Wagner helped perpetuate is disgusting and offensive. As performers and artists, it is our job not only to perform music at the highest level we can, but also to increase social awareness of the issues that have plagued Western music for centuries.

tl;dr, Wagner was a racist proto-Nazi and his music shouldn't be performed, let alone without historical context

>>72420402
These people are fucking nutjobs

>>72414382
Doremi is not only deaf, but blind.

>>72420402
Such an anti-semite that he let Jews premiere his music, and had tons of Jewish friends

>>72415768
Gorecki Symphony No.3

Here performed in Auschwitz:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miLV0o4AhE4

>>72415768
Bernstein - Symphony No. 3 'Kaddish'
Schoenberg - Survivor from Warsaw
Pigovat - Holocaust Requiem
Reich - Different Trains
Shostakovich - Symphony No. 13 'Babi Yar'
Morawetz - Anne Frank Oratorio
Weinberg - The Passenger
Tippet - A Child of Our Time

Clavichords are cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYVyccDJ5A0

>>72421734
yep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ugp1GpakRlI

Bach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb4uJ5HIhfM

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Holy shit, John Adams makes some breathtaking music. Is he the best minimalist composer?

>>72423590
I don't know. Tell me more.

CPE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr8J6x2uMZE

Bartók
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DscctOyPzh8

>>72423590
He's almost regarded as post-minimalist now but yes he's pretty good, his opera has a lot more variety than Glass.

>>72420402
>>72420674
Really makes you think...

>>72410001
Looks like Nazi kino is back on the menu.

ptzld

>>72422607
Not enough gay robots from space

>>72415029
this general is shit

>>72426955
>>72415029
Just use Allmusic's 'overview: highlights' and 'related [composers]' tabs: http://www.allmusic.com/artist/wolfgang-amadeus-mozart-mn0000026350

Heifetz

So is there a chart for essential compositions? I want to start listening to classical but I'd rather not pick and choose at random from big names.

>>72428447
These basic rep lists
http://www.classical.net/music/rep/lists/class.php
Focus on the names you know first like Beethoven

>>72428510
This is perfect, thanks

>>72428510
>>72428578
Just quickly glancing through this, ignore the "star" system they've got going on, which looks like it's just highlighting the most famous works and isn't really the best metric to go by (I mean, every single Mozart item should be starred, but you've got to wonder when Le Nozze di Figaro doesn't get one)

>>72424736
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tzLguU_2Dg

>>72428510
>SHOSTAKOVICH, Dmitri
>Preludes and Fugues for Piano Op. 87

Really?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMR437sA4kk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueaFIqmDWh4

FRIENDLY REMINDER THAT EVERYONE WITHOUT PERFECT PITCH NEEDS TO LEAVE IMMEDIATELY

>>72391803

Link spamming without any text (or even images) is r/classical posting, literally

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>>72429257
>perfect pitch
>being able to play in scordatura
I'd pick the latter tyvm

What do double bass even do all day?

They're just the subwoofer of the orchestra.

Is it acceptable to like Christopher Tin?
[spoiler]He won a Grammy

>>72429883
https://youtu.be/BUDmamZtUw0?t=107

Hindemith

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnM3ojKnmMc

>>72430174

A meme if there ever was one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmqhLIxNnp0

>>72430336

>0.4 surround sound

>>72399477
it's the vision of a child who went to heaven

PETZOLD

>>72433304
What about him?

Pretzold

ASCHENBACH

BACH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAbWHkax9tc

>>72433715
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh8l0x9uF-Y

>>72410111
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeTyZPxlwMA

>>72415735
/e/ - e-celebs

>>72417920
That's basically /his/.

>>72433887
/his/ is really just history ft. /pol/ and /r/the_donald bait threads and occasionally philosophy


Not really much else in the way of arts and culture.

>>72420402
His granddaughter was the Nazi. He had nothing to do with Nazism or genocidal ideology.

Did you know Edgard Varese once conducted a group of jazz musicians (including Mingus) and was into jazz? This website has the recordings. It was done in 1957 and is in the free jazz style- which this article notes was 4 years before Ornette Coleman's album "Free Jazz"

http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2009/06/edgar-var%C3%A8se-and-the-jazzmen-mp3s.html

>>72433774
holy shit

Who is the biggest one hit wonder of classical music?

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>>72420402
I'm Nazi too

>>72433955
His opinions and philosophy expressed in his essays and music were incredibly influential to Hitler. Just living before the party existed doesn't make him unconnected.

>>72434843
Mozart

>>72420402
>Wagner was a racist proto-Nazi and his music shouldn't be performed, let alone without historical context

But when comes the book burning, comrade?

>>72434843
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Af372EQLck

>>72434843
Holst probably.

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>when the Amazon reviewer tells me I should listen to the Bernstein's record of the piece in question instead

>>72435229
nothing wrong with that

>>72435229
>when you actually read Amazon amateur reviews and believe they are talking directly to you

>>72435300
He's talking to whoever is reading.

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Richter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e60mwMq2YKc&index=1&list=PLblB8tn_AAn0c9_QPfLLYpbjE-DYkh1O-

Leclair
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzZltbtAl4c

>>72436162
Great record.

>>72434843
Unironically Petzold

>>72395280
>maybe make one on 4+4chan?
aren't they in hot water for child porn shit? google doesn't even list them in search results anymore.

an alternative would be good.

can somene recommend Scarlatti interpreters on piano that don't play his sonatas with overly romantic feeling

>>72434843
it's Pachabel. Holst's band suites are at least well-known in the band community

also the Hammersmith Prelude and Scherzo is underrated

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>>72434843
>people commenting Pachelbel
>they don't know how popular his Hexachordum Apollonis (aka a gift to Buxtehude) is
>they don't know how innovative his Musikalische Ergotsung is
>they think they can comment as if they know jack shit about Pachelbel

>>72437752
>>they don't know how popular his Hexachordum Apollonis (aka a gift to Buxtehude) is
it's not popular

>>72437539
That was a false flag. Google delisted the site for /pol/itical reasons. Doesn't.t matter anyway. The community is already poisoned and pretty small. The board wouldn't work. There were similar boards there before they're all dead now.

>>72437769
>That was a false flag. Google delisted the site for /pol/itical reasons.
Maybe so, but there definitely were problems with cp on the site. Way too many weird ass boards for "child models".

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>>72437761
>it's unpopular if I haven't heard of it!!

>>72437769
is there literally nowhere else to go?

>>72437800
actually if it was popular then I probably would have heard of it
because then it would be popular

>>72437823
Well you're a dilettante so no one gives a shit what you've heard or not heard.

>>72437800
damn not even the handsome meme can make jews moderately decent looking.

>>72434843
Pretzel

>>72437832
so you agree that it's not popular right

>>72437850
"Popular" isn't determined by dilettantes like you.

>>72437855
it kinda is, dude

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>>72437863
>mfw I'm sharing the planet's resources with somebody this fucking stupid and stubborn RIGHT NOW

>>72437884
without intentional digging, the most even moderate fans of classical have heard by him is the canon in D and that's kinda just a fact of life
I'm not even calling it shit so I don't know why you're so assblasted

How hard do you think Dvorak's G-flat humoresque would be to learn?

Kiss my ass, Glass.

>>72437557
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWpujx461_c

post your favourite Beethoven piano sonata right now.
For me it's obviously the Hammerklavier with the a flat one (I think #28) being a close second

>>72438998
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAJ8fnwJPaM

If you don't cry to this you're a filthy goy

>>72429257
Relative pitch is the marker of the true musician

>>72429257
actually perfect pitch it's useless

>>72437557
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMFPjvsoUF4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqdKbrtAMxo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiS-tw58o1E

>>72439260
As if.

>>72438998
#20

>>72437557
MIDI

Monteverdi was reincarnated as Bach who returned as Mozart who was reincarnated as Hector Berlioz who returned as Maurice Ravel who was reincarnated as Chick Corea (who as a scientologist believes in reincarnation).

The first thing you look for in 'direct reincarnations' is 'continued mission(s)'. This one eternal soul has the continued mission of being a great performer and composer who broke musical boundaries while leading the evolution of serious music through the centuries. The second thing that must be considered is timeline, e.g. Berlioz couldn't have been reincarnated as Claude Debussy because Berlioz was still alive when Debussy was born. Google: Reincarnation Theory & its 26 Principles including Theory* of Luck Equation (ex. Einstein returned as Watson).

When 'child prodigies' in history are discussed, usally Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart is at the top of the list. Where did his 'gifts' come from? GOD chose him at random? No, GOD is just and random selection would not be morally right and fair. The 'random universe' produced him through probability theory and the law of large numbers? No, chaos theory states that there is only an appearance of randomness in chaotic systems and everything is connected with an emphasis on the 'initial state' of a system.

The law of attraction and the conservation of momentum strongly affect reincarnation as does the conservation laws of energy, consciousness, and information can't be destroyed, only transferred. In 2010, Stephen Hawking said, "I regard the brain as a computer which will stop working when its components fail. There is no heaven or afterlife for broken down computers; that is a fairy story for people afraid of the dark." Besides being very insulting to billions of people, there's an obvious fallacy here. Everyone saves their important information from their old computer onto a separate hard drive/flashdrive/the Cloud, loads it into their new computer and then begins to add to that.

>>72440061
D. Scarlatti was so ahead of his time. Composing minimalist music in the 18th century? Wow, wew lad desu

>>72440904
Please stop.

>>72440913
18th century's music was minimalist compared to baroque

>>72440935
Yeah, "galant" music sucks ass. But the first sonata movement is pretty fucking minimalistic even for "gaaaalant" music.

>>72438998
Waldstein.

>>72441175
Same.

Zelenka

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhmKq3L_NBE

>>72423590
I love that there are two American minimalist John Adams's

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>>72391803

I am sure there are some in this thread who know quite a lot about music theory and the technical side of musical composition.

The question I have is what are the best books and other sources of knowledge to become more well versed in musical theory and reading musical notation? I think it's about time I learned this shit and stopped being lazy, however I could never afford music school or classes in my life. I heard Frank Zappa taught himself everything in a library, which seems absolutely insane, but I perhaps I could give my shot at it, no fucking around, I really want to learn this stuff.

>>72442561

Oh, I forgot to add I read the OP and downloaded the link. I was just asking for more guidance and input on what I should start with and what are the best, so I am not reading random crap

>>72419288
pls respond

>>72440061
>>72438752
thanks desu

Bach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK8rwyzVYHk

>>72423590
He's very different.
Steve Reich's is based on Gamelan and (retroactively) electronic dance music.
Philip Glass' is based on Indian Raga and Eastern European dance.
John Adam's is more Western and Postromantic; Shaker Loops, Harmonium, and Harmonielehre all reflect this.

They're all great.

>listen to the classical radio on my way to work
>enjoy nice piece that's playing
>realize about four minutes in that it's a Mozart symphony

I just unironically enjoyed THE plebshit pop-composer. How should i repent? Is there any chance for me to become patrician again? I've been listening to Schonenberg and crying for the past hour.

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>>72443871

>>72442561
>>72442580
there are a couple people who know their shit but they post intermitently and there haven't been any tryhard posts in the general since this easter.
I tried to summon one of them with anime itt but it didn't work
I'm reading through elementary training for musicians by hindemith and doing all the exercises. the animefag recomended it to someone else asking about this stuff.
you could try that too. I mean I'm learning stuff, but I've never studied music before.

>>72443879
You should've said Webern, not Mozart 2.0

>>72442437
Underrated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDkAK_Td6mY

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Thoughts on this guy?

I'm listening to Harmony of the Spheres and so far I'm liking it very much

It doesn't like meme choral music like Schnittke and Part

>>72444091
*sound

>>72444091
what's wrong with schnittke?
he's music is funny

>baroque chamber music

Telemann
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezUirMCPWgA

>>72444091
>>72444501
Alright the chorus in the third movement is a bit memey

>>72444923
Movement B that is, sounds like muh african rhythms and sycopations

>>72443879
>Mozart underrating
>implying Schoenberg wouldn't call you a faggot

>>72442561
There are lots of books out there on music theory. Here's a nice selection, get reading.

https://archive.org/details/MusicTheoryGeorgeThaddeusJones1974

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I'm sure you all agree.

>>72446450
>Bach only mastered the organ
hmmmmmm

>>72446485
And cantatas. 01010101100101010101010011100101

>>72446555
Cantatas are an incredible achievement. It's one of those things that had Bach only composed ~20-30, everyone would know each one intimately. It's the fact that there are ~200 of them that precludes such a thing. Plus the fact he was basically composing one per week over the space of three years (and probably had even less than a week, since he'd give the musicians their music on Wednesday or Thursday for the Sunday)

>tfw cannot stop listening to verismo
Giordano has some incredible moments if you're in the mood

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>>72446450
>Mozart was underrated and light-years ahead of Bach

>>72446606
Where should I start with them?

>>72405819
>>72447511

Guys how do I approach studying classical art music? I only know the most popular guys like Barber, Bach and Mozart. Its very fascinating but how do I delve deeper? I am currently looking into Tallis.

Granados

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkTOsxX3D8I

>>72448365
Read books or get formal teaching

>>72448365
since when is barber popular?

>>72449878
His Adagio is popular.
This means that he's a one-hit wonder btw.

>>72448365
>Barber
literally who

>>72438998
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5nucZunpZg

Haydn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dglN0Fbo60g

>>72449942
The guy who cuts your hair.

>>72449932
Barber's wrote a lot of vocal music that is pretty great desu. Not necessarily as radical as the 20th century required, but nonetheless should be highly regarded. Unfortunate that the Adagio/Agnus Dei became so overwhelmingly popular

>>72439019
>>72438998
>>72440807
>>72441175
>>72450071
USE OPUS NUMBERS YOU FAGGOTS

>>72451214
His opera Antony and Cleopatra is very low key and beautiful. His cello concerto and sonata should be heard more often.

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>tfw no good performances of the Afro-American symphony or any of his other works

>>72451390
No.

>>72451501
FAGGOT HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHAT "no. 20" IS

>>72449942
His piano music is somewhat well known among those that enjoy performing/listening to solo works from the 20th century. I've played all four of his Excursions as well as his Nocturne and Ballade over the past two years.

>>72451615
up

Bach(Petzold)