Literally anyone can make a single good song, but only very talented

>>72302869
Maybe not everyone, but I'd say that it's true that there are very few artists, even terrible artists, that don't have at least one redeeming song.

Untalented + No Artistic Vision = Radiohead, Death Grips

Talented + No Artistic Vision = The Beach Boys, Talking Heads, Animal Collective

Untalented + Artistic Vision = Swans, MBV, Have A Nice Life, The Velvet Underground

Talented + Artistic Vision = Neutral Milk Hotel, Slint, King Crimson, Captain Beefheart

Official mu core ranking

>>72302949
Cringe.

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>>72302949
No...

>>72302949
god i hate /mu/

>>72302869
Absolutely. Hence why self-written/produced bands with multiple overall great albums are so rare, and why self-written/produced solo artists with multiple great albums are virtually unheard of.

>>72302949
lmoa

>>72302988
>>72303050
>>72303987
>>72304143
>mad because it's true

>>72304161
it just sounds really dumb, like youre a 12 year old desperately grasping for credibility or something

>>72304134
which is why Elliott Smith is so special

>>72304481
Although - fyi - he started relying on additional producers with his 3rd album...

>>72302949
How the hell do Animal Collective and Death Grips lack artistic vision

>>72304639
I don't know, I was bored and did that in under a minute

>>72302988
>>72303050
>>72303987
It's already been decided. Note the OFFICIAL title, redditors

>>72304607
yes, but there isn't anyone who writes, performs, and produces completely all of their music. Smith was still very special

>>72304703
Who is: Grimes.

Which isn't to take away from the essence of your point. For a solo artist to maintain solitary artistic control over their records after their initial successful release is almost unheard of.

>>72302869
>Literally anyone can make a single good song
Depends on the person. I doubt most people could write a good song.

>but only very talented people can make good albums.
The modern quality standard for an album is a challenge that not many can tackle.

>>72304703
>>72305267
Although, now that I've started looking into him (didn't know anything about Elliot Smith until this thread) his first outright critical success didn't come until his 3rd album Either/Or, which also happens to be the first record for he started relying on additional producers (Tom Rothrock and Rob Schnapf, to be exact.)

>>72302949


Untalented + No Artistic Vision = Radiohead, The Beach Boys, Animal Collective, Neutral Milk Hotel

Talented + No Artistic Vision = Talking Heads, Swans, Slint, King Crimson

Untalented + Artistic Vision = Have A Nice Life, The Velvet Underground

Talented + Artistic Vision = , Captain Beefheart, MBV
*Superior* mu core ranking