>tfw ferraro is the only one who hasn't sold out dean

> this eurovision shit
y'all need to stop this bait right now
probably the most irrelevant comparison ever made on this fucking board

>>72090756
>is the weird frontier over?
yeah
sadly

Ferraro sold out when he made Human story 3 a sequel to his widely popular FSV. People didn't give a shit about nyc hell or skidrow, or any other album which doesn't have an obvious vaporwave vibe.

All of them sold out. All of them are pitchfork approved. There's nothing weird about them anymore.

>>72090774
arcafags are truly the new grimesfags

Haven't listened to Arca since the early days, been catching up. Not listened to s/t yet, but I thought Xen was good, and Mutant was a bit dull. Currently listening to Stretch 2 and It's pretty great.
>>72090787
where should I start with Ferraro? There's so much fucking stuff

>>72090774
>the bait
>the most irrelevant comparison ever made on this fucking board
What else you want to believe?

yo someone share a link plz

>>72090756
but garden of delete is good anon

>>72090824
Well Grimes has nothing good, and is essentially just hype, but Arca is at least interesting beyond any ideas of fashion

>dean made a shitty hip hop album
well sounds like you missed the point of the album but ok

>>72090830

Go to RYM, check out his most rated albums. He has so much shit but honestly only 5 or so albums are worth checking out.

>>72090756
you call any of that selling out? all of those things partially alienated their fanbases and did not appeal to wider crowds. ferraro made a fucking ariel pink sounding hypnagogic pop album. and did outer limitz recordings? are those not meme of the moment albums appealing to popular trends? arca, opn, dean are making shit that doesnt have wide appeal. deans most accessible stuff was probably the first half of black metal. opns most accessible was games/ ford and lopatin or r +7. its clear all these artists are interested in working with popular music trends and subverting them and examining the philosophical questions that govern popular culture. none have sold out. and none of the examples you listed are even close to the most accessible stuff any of them have released...

>>72090846
>Arca is at least interesting beyond any ideas of fashion
that's where you're wrong
you've basically proved my words again

>>72090849
Yeah, I don't think I could say that Dean Blunt has ever made any good music, but he has made some great albums

>>72090849
oh yeah its an shitty "art" hip hop album. sorry dean

>>72090756
>he doesn't like neither BBF nor Arca

kys

>>72090875
ehh my point was grimes is popular because she is in part quite attractive, and dresses in an interesting manner. A lot of her appeal is based on her, rather than her music. Not that this is anything new in music, but it's pretty egregious with her because she has nothing to back it up.

I mean when visions was getting hype all the websites were going on and on about how it was recorded on garageband ffs.

>>72090846
>arca
>more than just hype and ideas of fashion
So... arcafags are truly the new grimesfags?

>>72090883
Some tracks are individually great music (God Hour, Skywalker Freestyle, the entirety of Stone Island) but yeah BBF isn't really an album of tracks in the way most other albums are.

>>72090756
also if you think that's selling out then you need to go out your fucking basement. "Sell-out" artists are artists like Drake, Chainsmokers, etc. You don't find normies playing either Arca or Dean Blunt.

>>72090935
ahh come on, you can't suggest for one second that Arca has used personal image to promote their music in the same way grimes has.

>>72090924
>ehh my point was grimes is popular because she is in part quite attractive, and dresses in an interesting manner. A lot of her appeal is based on her, rather than her music. Not that this is anything new in music, but it's pretty egregious with her because she has nothing to back it up.

change the word 'grimes' with 'arca' and add the word 'gay' because that's really fashionable now and it's still relevant

>it was recorded on garageband ffs
i dont get that 'garageband is bad' meme like have you ever used it? you can do a lot with it if you want to

>>72090970
>you can't suggest for one second that Arca has used personal image to promote their music in the same way grimes has
actually I can since that's exactly what he did

>>72090970
If you take a peek at his Facebook or Twitter that's exactly what he's been doing

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>>72090970
pic related says hi

>>72090952
i know fags who listen to shitty edm who also play some of arcas more banging dance tracks...

>>72090872
This

Xen is the patrician Arca album. Anyone who disagrees is a literal faggot.

>is the weird frontier over?

yes, start listening to real electronic music now

>>72091093
It's his best but Mutant is his patrician album desu

>>72090872
the weird frontier are a bit weirder than your regular sellouts, but they're still sellouts

>>72090756
the fringes have been marginalized and the idea of "underground avant culture" appeals to normies now which is pretty much forcing the frontier artists into making their most grab-bag stuff in hopes of money longevity
try some experimental electronic stuff out of russia/ukraine/denmark

>>72090756
ferraro can't sell out because he sucks

>>72090924
>ehh my point was grimes is popular because she is in part quite attractive
no she's not lmfao

>>72091161
does patrician not mean the best?

>>72091206
what can i check out?

>>72091146
like what?
if you say autechre kys

>>72090843
THis, if anything he sold in with that album

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>>72091869
>sold in

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So who are gonna be the new weird frontiers between pop and avant-garde?

Tim Hecker? A.G Cook?

we can't let the meme die

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>>72091936
these lads

>>72090756
Garden of Delete is literally OPN's least accessible album. Even including his old kosmiche stuff.

>>72090756
419 and bbf hosted by dj escrow were great... The entire uk hip hop/grime critique must've went right over your empty skull.

>>72091047

...Like Brokeup? Sure, that's completely understandable (it's a banger) but you should probably tell them that it's a track about getting fucked in the ass too hard (literally)

>>72092746
>an EDM album is less accessible than ambient stuff he was making in the past

>>72092746
>an EDM album is less accessible than his old kosmiche stuff

>>72091936
No, Tim Hecker's like 65 and has been making variations the same music for a decade

>>72093227
>>72093267
Not that anon, but how can you possibly say anything collected in Rifts is less accessible than the messier tracks off GoD?

>>72091936
my fuckin' dudes

>>72093309
>how can you possibly say anything collected in that drone ambient album is less accessible than some of those a bit overproduced pop tracks off GoD?

really made me think

>>72093227
>>72093267
>GoD
>EDM
>Electronic Dance Music
>Dance

you're a salty retard

>>72091936
>Tim Hecker? A.G Cook?
theyre ancinet. i would say elysia crampton, perry trollope (/f, pq:f, susan balmar), amnesia scanner, etc but all of their most important works are 2 years or older at this point. there hasnt been that much of signifacance lately. stuff that combines philosophical ideas and cultural awareness in a well crafted sonic form. perhaps stuff from the label chore wheel or psalmus diursae yet the best releases from there are a few years old already...

>>72093419
>taking an EDM term thus far
you know that even some of the most mainstream EDM aren't that much of a dance music, right?

>>72093389
You're just being a shithead now, most of GoD couldn't reasonably be called pop, and Rifts is hardly a difficult listen for anyone with an attention span

>>72093442
But Elyssia Crampton is kind of... shit

>>72093472
>most of GoD couldn't reasonably be called pop
not really

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>>72091936
we need Scaruffi aka his disguise: Impossible Nothing

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>>72090756
stay mad.

>>72093499
Why, because it has very melodic parts?
Show Parallel Minds to someone on the street, and then show them I Bite Through It; they'll say the latter is far easier to listen to.
This is a really dumb argument

>>72093573
>latter
That should be former, obviously

>>72093563
i still don't get why it's got 90
the average score is 82

>>72093493
american drift is a deeply profound work. transforming the cultural signifiers of mundane overused smaplepacks and soundfonts and simplistic beats yet transforming them through repetition creating a minimalist high art low art melting point. repetition of low brow simulacra transforms a lil john sample into a voice of a heavenly choir. a minamilst bliss and drone. reconditioning ideas about priority in music for classically ytained elitist sentiments. the tools are at the hands of all regardless of financial backrground, class race or gender. transforming white centric thoughts on high art into a voice for all. its mind blowing stuff and the most important work of the 21st century so far

>>72093573
>muh 3x3 pop muzak is less accessible than ambient

>>72093667
O-okay, I'll go relisten to it

>>72093563
is music dead

>>72090787
Plenty of people don't like the new Arca because it's "weird"

>>72090921
>neither
Whomst do thou think y'all are?

>>72091936
Yves tumor

>>72090872
this tbqh

>>72093902
I thought it was shit the first time I listened then the second time I was like woah nah this is beautiful

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>>72090756
>tfw spencer never sold out

>>72090824
arca actually makes good music though, grimes fucking sucks

>>72094683
outer limitz recordings is literally the most corporate commercial release by any of the weird frontier

>>72090787
>All of them are pitchfork approved
kek when were they not?

>>72094706
>some of the dullest music of the decade so far
>good music

it's really weird that you dont like grimes as well

>>72094734
outer limitz is sam mehran you dweeb

>>72094740
>god tier producer
>teenage girl pop

I don't see the comparison, have you only listened to Arca's latest?

>>72093573
Can confirm, when I bite through it came out my friends said it just sounded like random noises and they could do the same thing on fl studio

>>72094794
>>god tier producer
see: >>72090824

>have you only listened to Arca's latest?
some of the tracks on mutant are ok, but overall it's utterly mediocre just like any other arca project

>>72094850
whatever man, grimes will never make anything as good as &&&&&

>>72094875
>grimes will never make anything as good as &&&&&
both are like 5/10, and &&&&& is likely the most overrated wonky thing of this decade

>>72094875
>&&&&& as a better arca project
what a pleb

>>72093902
Haha, I like your reaction.

where are you guys acquiring all this shit now that rbt is busted up

>>72093442
>perry trollope (/f, pq:f, susan balmar)
what do you recommend from him?

>>72095024
>>72095024
WTF WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN I DIDN'T KNOW

>>72090756
Ferraro sold out with Human Story 3's literal starbucks-core tier garbage. Easy listening classical anyone can make with a couple samples thrown in the middle.

Babyfather has some sick beats and does jump genres pretty often.

GoD is OPN's most dense work by far.

Arca's changing the pop game, and the record is truly hitting the weird frontier more than any record made by these four.

>>72095047

been returning an error for the past few days. the status server is still up though, so it's likely a hardware failure, some people on /g/ suggested the other day

>>72095055
>>72090824

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>tfw thee dedekind cut is the realest out but you don't want mu to ruin it

>>72094985
hey i liked the bangers, his new work is great but he's been too inmersed in that overly textured sound for some years now and it feels saturated at times

>>72095097
>listening to music for bangers
can you get more pleb?

>>72095115
there is nothing redeeming arca's music other than when it "bangs"

>>72095082
didn't rly feel ded005 but 003 & 004 are still amazing.

>>72095197
sad

>>72095224
005 & 004 are amazing imo. 003 is good too but dwarfed by the others

while a completely different vibe i think that ¬ b compilation of his 2012-2016 stuff is killer too

>>72093194
lmfao this dude doesn't know what a banger is what an idiot

>>72095261
Agree, honestly been listening since the Pro Era / jungle stuff he did and it's been a blast to see the transition

>>72095287
brokeup is hard though

>>72095322
what tracks do you think are bangers on s/t

>>72095342
there isn't any

DUDE GAY LMAO

>>72091936
Stott, Nic Jaar? Haxan Cloak, Holly Herndon?
I'm shooting shit and seeing what sticks

>>72095442
F O R E S T
S W O R D S

>>72094794
both are great stop this shit argument

Just listen to Dedekind Cut you pleb

>>72095442
>>72095493
lol no

>>72091936
Dedekind Cut, Elysia Crampton, Amnesia Scanner and Holly Herndon.

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>>72095197
>tfw plebs simply can't even grasp the concept of texture in music

Is this what it feels like to be redpilled? I feel like I'm a member of an elite class that can actually understand music desu

>>72095389
brokeup is not a banger

>>72096058
>song about getting banged in the ass
>not a banger

pleb