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/prod/ - Music Production general

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"Ableton Live users only!" edition

>Production Resources:
>Pastebin - Links, books, videos, articles, tutorials and stuff
http://pastebin.com/pYGCLu6q

>/prod/ wiki - still looking for contributors
http://mu-sic-production.wikia.com
There's a severe lack of DAW descriptions in the wiki. If you're good with your tool of choice, consider writing a paragraph about it.

/prod/ IRC is up!
To join, you can go to http://www.rizon.net/chat
Choose a nick, put #/prod/ as channel. Enter!
Or you can get a lightweight desktop client here https://hexchat.github.io/downloads.html

Remember to use clyp.it to post your tracks/WIP: posting a clyp.it is just providing sound for a question, posting a Soundcloud link is making self-advertisement and the thread doesn't need that.

Remember to check other peoples' clyp.it links to keep the thread healthy.
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>>72021998
last thread
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trying to become a legitimate pop producer. what do?

inb4 kill myself. ill do that later
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>>72060812
learn how to make pop music?
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so.. i've been producing with no musical background for like 3/4 months now. i started this like a week ago but only now i decided to pick it up and work on it so that's why it's so short, anyway opinions? (please take into account what i said in the begining)
https://clyp.it/xtav2fc2
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any hip hop heads into making lofi?
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>>72060812
>>72060895
What this guy said. Look at what the trends are and make it. Although to be honest if you're doing it just for the money you should [spoiler]kill yourself[/spoiler]
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>>72061690
Or maybe I'll just kill myself
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>>72060812
Find pretty girls who can sing and make them sign a contract with you.
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>>72060482
Which is better DAW? FL Studio, Ableton Live, Studio One or Bitwig Studio?
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>>72061717
mario paint
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my list of fave/legend status producers goes like this:
DJ Premier, J Dilla, Madlib, Flying Lotus, DJ Shadow, Knxwledge, Nujabes, Fat Jon, Pete Rock, Kanye West, RZA, Dr. Dre, DJ Quik, DJ Screw, 9th Wonder, Q-Tip, The Alchemist, El-P, Kaytranada, Timbaland, Blazo, Emancipator, Kondor, DJ Okawari.
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>>72061717
start with fl then move on to ableton
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>>72061767
>FL Studio
It makes crackling nose after few minutes even on ASIO.
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>>72061728
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>>72061777
Make your buffer larger.
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>>72061796
it still crackles.
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>>72061777
works fine with me
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>>72061804
because you have better pc
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>>72061817
makes sense
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>>72061828
>>72061717
my pc is pic related
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>>72061852
is that windows xp
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>>72060961
shameless self-bump
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i know ableton pretty well but I just can't bring myself to finish a track. sometimes i'll get blackout drunk and wake up and see that I made something pretty decent but it's never finished. I know I can make cool shit but how to get over the blank canvas stage? anyone have any advice for this
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>>72061919
maybe. I have Windows 7. It's actually a laptop.
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>>72061951
same, i can never finish my stuff. sometimes i try to see how other people structure their tracks by listening to them but it barely helps
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https://clyp.it/tltqxsuj

r8 my knife party remix shit
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>>72060812

This is old
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2012/03/26/the-song-machine
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>>72062462
daaammnnn, that's pretty good
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>>72061717
USE RENOISE
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>>72061291
This trend is dumb and you're dumb.
>>72061951
Do something extremely bloated just to break past it, then strip it down. Sometimes it's hard to visualize yourself actually completing something because you simply aren't familiar with the feeling. Once you get in the swing of it you'll be fine. Most people are going to disagree with me on this but instead of saving project files just export whatever you have, no stems. Kill of tweaking it any further and just let it be. This will help you accept letting go/finishing. It's not like you'll never make anything else anyway.
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>>72062482
thank you <3 hopefully we make it this year
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>>72062574
good luck :) also could please give me your opinion on >>72060961
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>>72062587
if you have no musical background and only 3 months into it that's not bad, you still need to work a bit on your melody to bass relation, it's not terrible dissonant or anything but you just have to fuck around with scales and chords a bit more, also getting a small midi keyboard will help. join prod discord senpai

https://discord.gg/cfwMgqU
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>>72062650
thanks. no have discord account srry
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>>72060482
all the links to audio engineering & mastering in the pastebin are dead. anyone have working ones?
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>>72062662
r8 this

https://clyp.it/0z30f10v
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>>72062882
Sounds like the kind of shit people in Boiler Room crowds pulsate to while trying to not look directly into the camera.
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>>72062917
highest compliment i could receive thank you <3
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>>72062945
Yeah, I wasn't for sure how I meant that. I could see the value in it but I'm ultimately indifferent. That's the image that immediate came to mind.
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https://clyp.it/0xvkuhx3

Would appreciate any advice in general, first time adding sampled vocals. Also tried to compress the kick which was included in the sample, not sure how it worked out.
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>>72062882
holy shit, this is dope
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>>72063135
fuck, y'all so much better that me ._.
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>>72063298
thank you <3
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>>72063307
Post something of yours and we can offer advice, the whole point of the thread is to improve (:
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>>72063406
already did >>72060961
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>>72062650
sat here talking to myself,i s there no other niggers in this discord or anything idk how the fuck to use this shit
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>>72063491
nigga what, just click on the invite it should take you to the prod discord
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>>72063535
i guess nobody uses voice chat here?
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>>72063535
well mr dude from the thread im already b& because whoever has permissions is a massive cuck

well i guess that was shortlived fuck yourself faggot mod
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>>72060961
>>72063465
>https://clyp.it/xtav2fc2
I liked it! Not much to comment on since it's so short, some more progression would be nice - add more elements and make the piece more complex while keeping the eerie/creepy feel would be good.

I like the use of the vocal sample in the beginning and the way that it transitions into the drums then changes, the bass works really well with the kick also (around 0:32)

What you've got so far is a good base for a track, I would keep adding new things and experimenting with techniques, maybe incorporate a bridge/chorus where you switch it up a bit, then go back to the main part. I'm not great at building stuff from scratch so my advice might not make much sense but I think this track has potential.
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>>72063135
Bump. Anybody?
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>>72063631
thanks, will do
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How do I promote myself on soundcloud? I can't seem to share to groups anymore, I had a break and now everything has changed.
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>he fell for the "don't use drum racks" meme
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>>72063658
You don't, use youtube instead
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>>72063736
Cheers m8, I am pretty inept at marketing, I'll try youtube.
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>>72063725
how is it a meme if nobody ever says this?
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>>72062550

Why don't you like lo-fi anon?
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>>72063736

what can you do on youtube?

>>72063725

Why are drum racks good? (not mocking, just interested)
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above you

https://clyp.it/5aathqfx

not looking for feedback

just here to let you know i'm better thN you
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>>72063854
well, i hope you die in a fire then
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>>72063911
yeah, me too man
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>>72063854
>rohipnol
woah dood ur so edgy

also your music isn't good
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>>72063854
there are people here in this thread who posted better music than you bud
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>>72063841
>what can you do on youtube?

It's not really about youtube itself, but soundcloud being run by incompetent idiots who keep fucking up the website year by year

A plus is that youtube has better algorithms for sharing music, or just anything, really.
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>>72063947
>holy fuck his shit so good
>my stuff sounds like trash compared to this
>i know, i'll just call him edgy for the title he chose for a WIP track
>h-heh, that was close

post something better breh
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>>72063960
lol no

not even close
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Anyone using Splice Sounds? Is it any good?
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>>72064001
whatever you say narcissist, i'm sure you'll go far in the industry
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>>72063972
>holy fuck his shit so good
lol it's a bunch of retarded fret noise on a badly mixed and mediocre beat
>my stuff sounds like trash compared to this
said nobody, ever
>i know, i'll just call him edgy for the title he chose for a WIP track
lol already backing down by qualifying it as a working title instead of just admitting your edgelord status
>h-heh, that was close
no lol your guesses at what i was thinking are not at all close
>post something better breh
nah i'm good, got nothing to prove to someone as fucking stupid as you are lol
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>>72064016
>imblying i want to get anywhere
>imblying this is not just a hobby for me
>imblying im even trying

good luck in your musical bussiness endeavours brohammed
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>>72064021
>your stuff sucks
>im not jelly
>p-post something i made
>n-nah youre too stupid h-haha
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>>72064044
>imblying im even trying
we already knew you werent when we heard your clyp
>brohammed
oh jesus, did you just wake up from a coma you entered in 2012 when people were still making bro puns?
>>72064062
your really bad at greentext lol
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>>72063969

ah okay. but isn't youtube the same as soundcloud? For instance, I have a track on SC that is popular and it's on a "recommended playlist" for people while new tracks aren't and don't get much plays. How would I go about getting my music out there on youtube if it functions the same?
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>>72064080
>ur clyp is bad lal
>lel ur bad at greentext
>old jokes wow dude ur lame

yet i still havnt heard ur clyp
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https://clyp.it/0xvkuhx3

r8 or h8? Cheeky sampled beat for all you lofi boys

>>72064118
>>72064080
>>72064044
pls stop arguing, this thread is meant for constructive criticism :)
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>>72064118
yeah, i thought we already established that i don't take you seriously enough to do what you want me to but maybe you haven't quite caught up to that point in the conversation yet
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>>72064139
>listen man, i aknowledge that you are better
>i will not post my shitty work and embarass myself
>ill just say youre not worth it even though i spent about 3-4 posts arguing with you about it

im sorry anon
i didnt know you were so fragile shit
i apologise
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>>72064174
here's your (You)
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>>72064205
>i give up

good boy
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>tfw bought Komplete 11
wtf this is like production easymode enabled
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>>72064212
>if i keep telling myself i'm winning that makes it true!
you showed up and said you were better than everyone, then everyone who actually cared enough to listen told you you suck, because you do lol. then you had to qualify your edgy title, qualify the amount of effort you put into it, qualify your desire to even be a musician. now i guess all that's left is for you to imagine that you're winning this back and forth we're having because i don't care enough to post my music for you. great posts 10/10
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>>72064247
>no clyp
>wall of text

cool bruh
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>>72064274
>wall of text
do you mean not even 2 lines of text? is this really what the american public school system is churning out these days?
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>>72064287
>i post on 4chan from my desktop PC

im sorry your life sucks anon
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https://clyp.it/0xvkuhx3
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>>72064274
heres my clyp, faggot
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sitting here like
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>>72064307
>phoneposters trying to make people jealous
yeah, i really wish i wasn't sitting in a chair able to type with an actual physical keyboard lol damn this sucky life of mine
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>>72064350
glad you enjoying this shitshow man

>>72064351
>im a real 4channer not like those newfag leddit phoneposters kek lulz we are lejun

you are embarassing yourself
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>>72064376
>im a real 4channer not like those newfag leddit phoneposters kek lulz we are lejun
actually i just said it was stupid that you were trying to make phoneposting seem superior to using an actual computer, but i guerss we've already established you need to take wild inaccurate leaps in what you think i'm thinking when i post
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>>72064376
>>72064392
jesus fucking christ shut the fuck up already you sad cunts
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>>72064413
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED???
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>>72064392
>i am using a superior way of communicating on an anonymous image forum
>my intelect clearly surpasses yours
>you foolish philistine are making very innacueate assumptions about my current situation

jesus man, at least try a little bit to hide that fedora
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>>72064429
lol did you already forget that you were the one who started in on this topic? >>72064307
and speaking of taking wildly inaccurate leaps in trying to guess my motivations... everything you just greentexted lol
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>>72064422
i am, i ain't even mad anymore
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I only go to /mu/ for the prod thread but holy shit you guys are retarded. Stop taking the bait.
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>>72064460
>i have spent about an hour arguing with a person who i claim is not worth it
>i did it all from the comfort of my cumstained chair in my grandmas garage

you sure showed me bro.
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>>72064631
>i have spent about an hour arguing with a person
yes, you have
>i did it all from the comfort of my cumstained chair in my grandmas garage
if only i had done it all from a phone instead, then i'd be a really neato guy like you
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>>72064554
Fuck yeah, how can they possibly still be taking this bait. /prod/ threads have been getting a lot shitter lately anyway, I think the soundcloud threads are spilling over.
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>>72064844
nice deflection bro

you still arguing with someone who you claim is not worth it
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>>72064910
not worth posting my music for*

laughing at your stupidity is worth my time
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>>72065018
back to the 'my intelect clearly surpasses yours' thing, huh?

come on little guy, just post a clyp
we wont laugh at you
its ok
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>>72065119
>back to the 'my intelect clearly surpasses yours' thing, huh?
what, calling you stupid? did we ever leave that topic?
>just post a clyp
you really shouldn't be having this much trouble grasping that i'm not going to lol do you have a learning disability?
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>>72065144
>>72065119
it's getting boring now guys
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>>72065144
>you really shouldn't be having this much trouble grasping that i'm not going to lol do you have a learning disability?

is this what you tell your mother when ashe asks you when you are going to move out and get a girlfriend?
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>>72065202
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>>72065202
lol
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>>72065202
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Instead of arguing can someone give me tips on my beat

https://clyp.it/2ilhy5un
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I'm almost through doing a book; "a gentle introduction to SuperCollider" and I feel like I still don't really know how to do anything
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>>72065202
no, it's what i tell your mum when she wants my dick
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>>72062882
Mindless garbage done better in 1990, could not be less original, an abomination to humankind, well mixed, still terrible.
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>>72065379
Do me
>>72065301
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>threads always used to die
>threads don't seem to die anymore
>instead we have some retard posting meh beats and claiming to be god then everyone biting
s-sure is good to be back in /prod/, happy our threads aren't dying anymore!
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https://clyp.it/nrcmd4wo
Posted this a few days ago, added more elements to the beat. I feel like either the drums or vocals are missing something but I'm not quite sure what, thoughts? Also I have a female vocalist lined up for the hook and a bridge section at the end, they're just instrumental sections at the moment.
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>>72065460

/prod/ fucking sucks. it's always just people shitting on others. bitter fucks, why can't we all just create art and give constructive criticism without people projecting and getting frustrated over nothing.
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>>72065301

Hey man, not sure what you're going for here. Not trying to be a dick. But I can't tell if you're just looping the sample without placing any drums over it. I'm pretty sure there's a kick but it's very quite. Try articulating it more so it sticks out in the mix. I have the same issue since i like filtering my kicks a lot.

I don't really care for the sample as well but that's just personal preference. Has a nice change though halfway thru.
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>>72060961
I liked it until the drums came in.
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>>72066024
Cause most people who do this are bedroom shut ins that sit alone behind a computer screen for hours, and this is our form of stroking ourselves off. Thus, you get lots of jealous people because we hear our own mixes so much we start to think they're the best but in reality it shatters dreams when you hear someone else's that it better.
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>>72065509
>https://clyp.it/nrcmd4wo

You made this on maschine, didn't you? I fucking hate maschine so much, can't wait to get the push 2. It's decent but the stock sounds are pretty boring. That's just me cause I'm familiar with them and I'm not really into your voice. I'm aussie as well.
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>>72066090

Really? I always self doubt myself but my friends get excited when they hear it. I always feel that the tracks are never finished or are up to standard. But this place is cancer. It's filled with assholes.
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>>72066096
Not my voice, a mate. Didn't make it in maschine either, just a drum loop I put together. I haven't put an awful lot of processing over the top of it, wanted some advice first but oh well
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>>72066112
Nah I agree with you man, that's just what I figured. I love getting feedback and making music makes me happy, I would say don't take it too hard, 4chan is always full of assholes lol.
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>>72066130

Well, I'd say to add some more layers to it. It's a bit dull with just the rhodes and the organ. I'm listening on a laptop so I may not be able to hear it but is there any bass on it? Overall, I just think it needs more instruments.

>>72066161

True, true. Keep working & good luck.
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>>72066229
There's a bass in it as well as reversed piano chords, would prefer some advice from someone who's actually able to hear the elements if thats alright
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Does anybody know how to get some decent hip hop acapella version of songs?
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>>72066059
>https://clyp.it/2ilhy5un
Thanks, I'll boost the kicks a little.
Not sure what else to add in terms of drums
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>>72066260

all g man, keep doing your thing.

>>72066367

records or just off youtube.
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>>72065509
>>72066260

This is pretty cool, I like the bass and chords, not a huge fan of the voice personally. I think the kick and snare should be a bit louder, and the track on the whole could use more panning. The writing is nice though, musically this is really cool.

>https://clyp.it/ppwinmor

Any thoughts or suggestions for this?
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asked last thread...
what are some good VSTs for general-midi/80s-sounding "choir ahhs"?

also, added some sidechaining so the drums could cut thru. thoughts?
https://clyp.it/xouzdbgd
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>>72066757
Thanks, I'll have a go at changing the drum mix a bit!
>https://clyp.it/ppwinmor
Pretty cool, got me bouncing a bit. The drums just after the drop could use a bit of a rhythmic change but I feel thats more a personal taste thing for me. Otherwise mix-wise those cymbal hits are a bit flat, could use a bit of sizzle. The entire thing is a touch long for my liking but again that could just be a personal taste thing. Keep up the good work!
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>got an old Alesis drum machine
>when recording and hitting the pads, I get random hits that sound like a short roll (ie the kick will kick twice in rapid succession)
>I just had the machine serviced (ie it was opened up)
>I checked the aligment of the electronic components, everything seems to be in place

what could be causing the random double hits? it happens all across the other sounds as well
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What is the best daw and why is it the new MPC touch screen badazzle
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>>72069274
does it help if you lighten your strikes?

I've had this same issue on other gear. i think it's just from cheap or faulty pads.
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>>72069447
is anything released on it other than pics?
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>>72069274

The tactile switches are making, breaking, and remaking the circuit when pressed, and sometimes cleaning the switches won't fix that if the switches are beyond saving.

Test this by triggering the sounds via MIDI - if the sounds don't display the same double-triggering with MIDI then your switches are at fault and you'd need to replace them.
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>>72069492
They created a whole new line of mpcs from 500 to 1k to 2k. There's the "stand alone chalange" where rebound producers use it but I think it looks really cool and maybe would be more fun than drawing beats into a daw, although ithas that functionality too it seems
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>>72069468
somewhat yeah
it seems to get worse when I hit it hard and keep it pressed just a bit

>>72069497
>switches

I'm a newb at this. which part of the drum machine are the switches? I know kinda sorta know the components, just not the names
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I'm considering of getting a hardware synth. can anyone recommend one for a beginner? compared to a guitar amp, what would be the line6 spider of synths? I messed around with a minibrute at guitar center and thought it was pretty neat.
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>>72069659

Pads on drum machines have switches under them - specifically momentary switches like most buttons you see on things, and they wear out after heavy use on older bits of kit.

Sometimes they just accumulate grime on their contacts and a good clean with some contact cleaner spray will restore them (this is what most service centres will do for the basic job) but with older devices they will start to mechanically fail too, in that their spring mechanisms won't work so well, usually due to metal fatigue.

With membrane switches the failure is nearly always grime but they do suffer wear and tear too and with wear they will need replaced.
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>>72069763
I recommend the street signs where you press the buttons and it says "wait to cross the street" and play around with that till u get sum decent beats
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>>72063808
not him but can you suggest some lo-fi hip hop to listen to? I've read other anons in previous threads say " it's that hip hop to listen to when studying shit".
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>>72066784
>https://clyp.it/xouzdbgd
Dexed
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>>72065509
>https://clyp.it/nrcmd4wo
The electric piano/organ sounds great!
I'd change the drum sound a bit, or EQ it better.
Also I'd experiment with subtle effects on the vocals
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>>72061749
>no Taz Taylor
into the trash
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>>72069880
is it compatible with FL12?
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>>72066873

Thanks, how would you suggest I add sizzle to the cymbals? I'll look more into the drums

Any more feedback for this https://clyp.it/ppwinmor ?
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r8/h8/masterb8

https://clyp.it/pnelyzhx
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https://clyp.it/kn1wx5jd

a poppy thing I tried to make

>>72071239
dude that's fucking amazing, there's a lot of stuff in there and a lot of influences
the only thing you could improve is the eq and the mixing in general, but it's still an awesome piece.
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https://clyp.it/3ys3b1vm

here you go lads
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How to mix house kick and bass?
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Is there a VST that can flip an audio signal spectrum in realtime? I know I can do this by converting to image and back. I've tried a ring modulator but I can't get it to work - maybe I'm doing something wrong.
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>>72070738
A bit more high-end. You want to be careful with where you boost and cut however as you don't want to introduce unnecessary sibilance.
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https://clyp.it/ivnfjnsa

rate my latest project senpais :3
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Can you id the exact synth model the "fake choir" sound was made with? Or how to rebuild it using Reaktor synths?
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