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Grimes career was a long drawn out failure similar to Kreayshawn

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Grimes career was a long drawn out failure similar to Kreayshawn and Riff Raff's although they didn't have Purple PR shilling them across the internet; including /mu/. Creating obsessed fan boys and the popular in Mexico/Brazil factor. She accomplish nothing, made forgetting music, a shill for music blogs, fashion mags that no one reads or cares for, and to fading musos who need to cling to a zeitgeist to kickstart their faded visibility.

She is not sustainable; held up on /mu/ by one obsessed loser who most likely is the stalker that continues to harass her and her friends on social media. The reason she has admitted to hating her fans the hype created for her.

She is in extreme debt to Roc Nation/4AD/Purple PR. There is photographic evidence of her calculating the now millions she owes from a picture on her laptop of the debt spread out in Microsoft Excel.
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do you have the picture of the debt
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>>72003880
She knows she is toxic, which is why she tries desperately to "discover" real female talent to eclipse her and the Grimes brand. Hana, that fat Taiwanese chick, Nicole Dollanganger, etc. She wants to bury Grimes and become a producer and hide behind the scenes but the amount of debt she is in she'll have to continue being shilled until she is into her 50s like Madonna. Although Madonna is actually financially successful unlike Grimes.

She'll be playing oblivion on comeback tours well into the 2070s. Get ready for it /mu/
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i want to KICK kreayshawn in the cunt, fuck that BITCH
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>>72003880
>owing millions in debt to promote your art
>art being so bad that you have to pay people to convince other people that your art is goood
show pic of debt or gtfo
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Claire Elise Boucher, BOUGHT her fame. She knew that back in 2010; to rise above the endless sea of shitty Myspace acts she needed EXPOSURE. She knew you only get that through PR.

Anon asks, "PR is expensive! How could she afford that?"

Did you know, Anonymous, that Claire comes from a very rich and upper class upbringing? Did you know that her mother is a highly successful and famous (in Vancouver anyway) lawyer, television personality, and stateswoman? Look up Sandy Garossino. Rich, priviledged, she bought her way in. Paid for the best PR money could ask for. THEN came the Lykke Li tour, 4AD, and Roc Nation. Purple PR networked for her, paid for by daddy and mommy's millions.
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>>72004023

But you need actual musical TALENT to remain SUSTAINABLE. Claire admits that she knows nothing about music and literally WINGS IT. Hype and PR can only take you so far.

We live in a world of RESULTS. Not promises or hype.
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start with her first album
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>>72003880
what did grimes do to you? tell me anon!
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>>72004023
yeah no shit
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>>72004023
yeah no shit
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>>72004120
these posts are directed at the grimes fanboy who makes generals about her.

it's time for him to stop.
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>>72003959
I want to KISS Kreayshawn on the lips, love that Bitch
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>>72003880
>>72003924
>>72004023
>>72004051
congratulations retard you worked out that rich people can afford to make it in the music industry. maybe tomorrow you'll work out that The Monkees didn't play their instruments and Mick Jagger went to Dartford Grammar. Fucking hell you're switched on.
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>>72004176
The Monkees and Mick Jagger on shilled on here like Grimes is though.

You must want a cookie.
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>>72004189
*aren't
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>>72004023
>mfw Grimes waifu-fags are all actually paid shills
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>>72003880
>>72003924
>>72004023
>>72004051
>>72004143
>>72004189
>>72004200
>held up on /mu/ by one obsessed loser
Pretty odd way of describing yourself desu (as of my posting, this is the only explicitly Grimes related thread on /mu atm.)

Here's an idea - why don't you quit shitposting and start actually talking about music? What's your favorite Grimes record, and why? Mine's Darkbloom because of how consistent it sounds.
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>>72003880
>not knowing that Grimes didn't sign to Purple PR until 2015
Lol so much for that conspiracy theory. Do better homework next time, OP.
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I believe you OP.
Ok, can she be my gf now? ;_;
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>>72003880
What a load of crap. Anon, you're insane. What extreme debt are you talking about when her expenses are very small considering she's making all her art by herself?? Where are your sources?

Hey retard, stop talking out of your fat ass and mind your business.
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>>72004145
agree
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>>72004023
Again, you're talking out of your fat ass. Prove this
>Claire Elise Boucher, BOUGHT her fame.
...with documents and stop bullshitting /mu/. Where's the EVIDENCE, motherfucker?
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>>72004143
>implying it's one person
good luck with that, autist
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>>72004385
HA HA HA, the OP was completely BTFO.
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So much retarded nonsense in this thread. Grimes is great and hard-working DYI artist and you, all the haters, can fuck off.
No one here takes your shit seriously.
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>>72003880
None of this shit is true, OP. And you know it.
If you want some facts about this extremely talented and complete artist then see below.

GRIMES PROFILE

>Full name: Claire Elise Boucher
>Born: 17 March 1988 in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
>Origin: Québécois, Ukrainian, Russian and Italian descent
>Instruments: vocals, synthesizer, sampler, keyboard, guitar, bass, drums, violin, ukulele

>Skills:
- singer
- songwriter
- producer
- sound engineer
- lyricist
- live performer
- visual artist
- music video director
- dancer
- model
- virtuoso

>Main interests:
Music, visual arts, dancing, books, films, modeling, video games, internet, and others

>Music taste:
http://www.last.fm/user/chairmandore/library
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahnUH7wnW30
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grimes_%28musician%29#Musical_style
http://www.pandora.com/station/2895208146671614201

>Others:
- Grimes does everything in her music, from singing and songwriting to artwork and production
- nice personality, beautiful look, cares about environment issues and saving animals
- took her name from grime music after discovering the existence of the genre on Myspace
- studied ballet for 11 years
- was a goth outcast in high school
- studied neuroscience, philosophy, and Russian literature and McGill University before being dropped out for missing classes
- had some troubles in the past: drugs, 2 friends died because of overdosing drugs, sexual assault, shitty jobs, the professor who got her into a music program killed himself
- started making music when she was around the age of 22 or 23
- big Lord of the Rings, Dune, Game of Thrones, Star Wars, Abbess Hildegard von Bingen and Russian literature fan
- her best friends are James Brooks, Hana, Bloodpop, Duffy, Born Gold
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>>72006016
So what made you drop St. Vincent so quickly?
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>>72004486
Is there some fame store in the mall or something? Do you expect him to show some receipt or some shit? If you could buy fame im sure the sellers wouldn't give you paperwork documentation of it.
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>>72006127
Neither I have ever listened to St. Vincent nor can name any of their songs. You must be confusing me with someone else.
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>>72006173
nope thts you buddy
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>>72006144
>p a t h e t i c defense
Lol what a loser.
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>>72006202
Probably the creator of that pasta is but I'm not him. I just have it saved and it's useful pretty often.
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>>72006127
>>72006202
>all people who use bulleted lists are the same person
Lol you are so easy to manipulate.

>Who's
- posting
- now
- sperg?
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>>72006266
im sure a psycho like yourself would know all about manipulation
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>>72004023
>She knew that back in 2010; to rise above the endless sea of shitty Myspace acts she needed EXPOSURE. She knew you only get that through PR.

No shit, this is how the music industry works. You don't get anywhere without paying for PR.

How do you think people learn about music on /mu/? Someone is shilling them here.
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>>72004421
do you really want that?
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>>72006016
>started making music when she was around the age of 22 or 23
It shows.
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>>72006699
what?
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>>72006661
not that anon, but i would kill for that
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>>72005959
Shes annoying.
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>>72006761
have you?
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>>72006942
not yet
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10gb. 10 giga bites of nothing
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>>72006954
how would she feel about this?
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>>72006277
>all about manipulation
...of people (like you) totally lacking in senses of humor? No special knowledge necessary desu.
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>>72006822
sometimes, but an utterly depressing person to pay attention too as well. it could better to let her go
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>>72007001
got any abortion jokes?
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>garbage musician is actually talent whore who used viral marketing and pr to spam themselves on the internet

Only bozo's dont realize the only way to get famous is make yourself a meme and be good looking

She was a dumb bitch for signing to roc nation, jay z is a snake
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I'M ROLLING UP MY CATNIP AND SHITTING IN YOUR LITTER
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But she created Art Angels which is an enduring masterpiece that will be held up as emblematic of an era.

So yeah, sweetie, your opinion is invalidated, hun.
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>>72006144
No. For instance, I'm expecting to see receipts that she paid money to be shilled or that she paid influential sites to say nice things about her. Otherwise it's just bullshitting.
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>>72004145
H O T
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>>72006127
perhaps whoever did that was inspired by that pasta. also once a pasta is in the wild, anyone could repost it. it's that hard to comprehend?
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>>72005959
This
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wow. the shills are really trying to dismiss this shit. but they have absolutely no arguments.

the only way someone as talentless as grimes could get this famous is through an elaborate (and expensive) marketing and public relations scheme.

she admitted herself that she has no knowledge of music theory. she's a fucking hack who's a privileged wannabe.
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>>72007405
>shills

receipts or gtfo
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>>72007421
you show me. you're the PR agent with documentation
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>>72007157
>So yeah, sweetie, your opinion is invalidated, hun.
is this great bait or actually serious? i really can't tell
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>>72007405
probably most of the bestselling musicians of the past 100 years have no knowledge of music theory

i'm not sure how you think you've proven anything to anyone here. I don't even like grimes at all but I was combing the thread for any substantive evidence of the claims in the OP and can find none.

Grimes is a stinky retarded french bitch but yes people actually like her albums (for some reason).
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im not against the illuminati
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>>72007434

you made that claim, you better prove it. ever heard of Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat (the burden of proof is on the one who declares) aka presumption of innocence?
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>>72005959
>isn't it DIY
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>>72006016
lmao wtf is this shit supposed to prove?
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>>72007157
>which is an enduring masterpiece
did a music publication tell you this by any chance anon?
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>>72007455
it is possible that people liked her as a person and favored her for it, for some reason
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>>72007479
free advertising, thanks for your support anon
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>>72006992
I think she would be against any violence so I would have to apologize sincerely in hopes that she will forgive me one day
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>>72007455
>probably most of the bestselling musicians of the past 100 years have no knowledge of music theory
implying any of the bestselling musicians of the last 100 years are any more meritorious than that stinky retarded french bitch

pretty much any pop star is a talentless hack who was formed by the industry. comparing grimes to iggy azaelia is like comparing dogshit to dogshit
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>>72007479
It's all known facts about her, unlike that shit from OP. You can google all of that yourself.
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What the shit are you people even talking about
There's literally nothing special about grimes. She's garden variety. Why is it her that's always and constantly posted? Why not the thousands of other female artists?
And I want a real explanation. Not just some copypasta bullshit.
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>>72007527
>free
okay whatever you say shill
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>>72007576
>Why is it her that's always and constantly posted?
see op. it's a forced marketing scheme
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>>72007555
grimes formed herself by herself and you don't post anything meaningful or truthful about her, so gtfo
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>>72007576
She has really mad haters like OP for no reason.
>And I want a real explanation.
jealousy of her success
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>>72007468
what's your point exactly?
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>>72006299
This. Some idiots like this one >>72004023 have no idea about music industry. All known music was PROMOTED. Even that idiot's music library exists because some people promoted those albums and his stupid ass heard about them. He basically complains that music was promoted. Absolutely ridiculous.
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Grimes is best when she is full on pop.

Brian Eno she is not.

At best she could get weird with a crisp house tune.
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>>72003880
>She is in extreme debt to Roc Nation/4AD/Purple PR. There is photographic evidence of her calculating the now millions she owes from a picture on her laptop of the debt spread out in Microsoft Excel.

you have to have knowledge in how the music industry works to understand what is being implied here which seems very truthful. lots of money and marketing went into making grimes a thing over the years
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>>72007576
i honestly feel to blame for it
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>>72007598
>you don't post anything meaningful or truthful about her
is it truthful that she has signed to major record labels which promote her (4ad)? is it truthful that she has teamed up with PR companies (purple PR) is it truthful that she uses Roc Nation (a fucking "media company" founded by jay z) to promote her?

that's what i thought anon. and i'm sure she has received more industrial help from businesses that weren't listed there
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>>72007578
I see that you have already made thousands of grimes hate posts in these threads. Your style is recognizable.
So who is actually shill here, huh?
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>>72007405
>she admitted herself that she has no knowledge of music theory. she's a fucking hack who's a privileged wannabe.
she has no knowledge of music theory =/= she's unable of making good music

>talent: a special n a t u r a l ability or aptitude

you're a fool.
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>>72007683
That said.

I only come to this board for pop idols, such as Grimes.
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>>72007598

Don't forget Deon and her brother Mac Boucher whom were there at the beginning, lad.
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>>72007624
>jealousy of her success
this is such a stupid explanation. literally anyone could do it if they had enough money and hair dye.
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>>72007555

you're really mad, don't you? stay mad, salty jerk.
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>>72007683
If she's only good when she makes pop then all this shit >>72006016 doesn't matter
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>>72007699
>is it truthful that she has teamed up with PR companies (purple PR)
source?
anyway, none of these has any impact on her art, she is doing it alone
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Jay Z is evil.

Like Trump is relatively the worst president ever, but Jay Z is a Jew now.
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>>72007576
>There's literally nothing special about grimes.

name a similar artist to her
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>>72007705
i dont think he'll say his name
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>>72007738
Then why no one does it? Checkmate, autist.
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>>72007770
Xeno & Oaklander
iamamiwhoami
Chris & Cosey
Lights

All of whom are better
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>>72007761
>she is doing it alone
wtf anon you're so delusional that you're committing doublethink right now. you are actually contradicting what you JUST SAID
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>>72007734
>Mac Boucher
not a musician. Grimes is known for her music

>Deon
what's his impact actually? did you just put random name?
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>>72007792
Clair, stop!

We love you. OK?
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>>72007717
isn't this a troll argument?
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>>72007770
Any female electropop artist from the 80's and 90's ever
That's like asking where Radiohead got their sound, it's just that obvious
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>>72007686
>lots of money and marketing
Bullshit. First of all, the making of her music is cheap since she's doing it at home alone. Secondly: she's barely played on the radio/tv. How much they spent if the results are clearly underwhelming?

Finally: you don't know any detail about her contract and her financial status, so stop speculating. No evidence, no credibility.
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>>72007782
>Then why no one does it?
look at the fucking music industry you slogan spewing, buzzword repeating moron. hundreds of people do it
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>>72007792
>not provides any facts
>calls someone delusional
>spends this huge amount of time to post about artist he hates
just fucking end your life already
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>>72004145
Kreayshawn and lil debbie where the only interesting music acts of the 10's

witch house was good too


these are amongst the only true indie/subcultures that music has seen since the 10's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOTpymGSbOs

i want lil debbie to sit on my face
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>>72007699
>major record labels which promote her (4ad)
4AD is an indie label. Roc Nation is just a mgmt company. Your argument is invalid.
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>>72007854
but no one is objectively as great as Grimes
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>>72003880
Hey guys Iike grimes too
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>>72007877
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beggars_Group
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>>72007789
>putting up some random indie female-fronted names
That's not what you was asked for.

>All of whom are better
Also false.
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>>72007789
Bullshit. I know all these artists very well, they're not similar to Grime. You're just lumping female electropop artists together like an idiot. Name one Xeno & Oaklander song similar to Scream or Eight as a quick proof.
>All of whom are better
No.
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>>72007847
>Any female electropop artist from the 80's and 90's ever
Idiotic argument. Any female electropop artist from the 80's and 90's ever don't sound like Grimes, from voice to songwriting and production. It's pretty clear you didn't even bother to listen to her music.
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>>72007918
Nah. This ain't similar to Grimes at all.

https://youtu.be/5mqtvkluOD8

Grimesfags I swear...
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>>72007860
That's too harsh. Better let him alive to be mad while Grimes is having money, fame, respect and success. Living well is the sweetest revenge.
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110 posts
32 posters

i can't believe this illiterate faggot is still trying to say that there's more than one manic grimesfag.

anyone with a basic grasp of the english language could scroll through this thread and recognize every sloppy post that he has made (aka nearly every post defending her thus far)

it's all one dude and he really needs to stop
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>>72007899
Beggars Group is not a major label. Anything else?
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>>72007962
It's not. Name the exact Grimes song similar to it. Prove it that you know your shit.
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>>72007880
>but no one is objectively as great as Grimes
>objectively
have you suffered a serious head injury or were you born this way?
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>>72008003
>i get to decide what constitutes a major label
>therefore my argument is invincible
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>>72004176
>going to a grammar school means you are rich
>going to a grammar school in Dartford, of all places, means you are rich
What are you on about? Do you know what a grammar school is?
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>>72007997
The only one illiterate faggot here is you, OP.

>110 posts
And all of the hate posts are yours. Nice statistics.

>still trying to say that there's more than one manic grimesfag.
see >>72007913 >>72007918
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>>72007997

stop it, faggot. i know you're mad coz your arguments are weak as fuck, but find something better to do wanker
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>>72008024
no u
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grimesfags are the worst thing to ever happen to this board. i would rather have gorespammer come back.
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>>72007997
>op being mad because he was roasted by her fans
>this cunt tried to imply that just one fan beat his ass
>not knowing that fact would make him 100x more pathetic if true
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>>72008097
>being mad because he can't handle the bantz and metatrolling
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>>72008097
>creates bait thread to trigger grimesfags
>gets BTFO
>REEEEEEEEEE GRIMESFAGS ARE THE WORST
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>>72008144
Lmfao, that actually happened! His piss poor "arguments" were BTFO one by one. These autists never learn.
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It's pretty sad how these people will get called out, spazz the fuck out without saying anything substantial, pretend they've won some argument by parroting phrases like "checkmate" and "BTFO" and then proceed some pathetic victory circle jerk.

All you faggots said was:
>Grimes is objectively good
>I get to decide what a big record label is
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>>72007683
>Brian Eno she is not.
Of course. Grimes is Grimes. Unlike Eno, she's a way better vocalist and songwriter. I dare to say an even better producer.
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>>72008257
>and music that sounds similar to Grimes doesn't
>reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

She also stole her look from The Dark Crystal
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>>72008300
Sorry, but Eno's music is kinda dull in general. You know it.
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>>72008321
So you should die when.

Like I attribute Eno & Hancock. The gods of modern music.

When Brian goes deep... Claire can not follow.\\ Like, even on a pop level.
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>>72008307
>her look
which one?
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>>72008362
I respect Eno but his actual music isn't that exciting. Take his album The Ship: dull as fuck.
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>>72008257

>pretend they've won some argument
the difference is that we actually provide verifiable arguments, not some bullshitting. stay mad if you can't handle defeat.
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>>72008388
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efnAzvDw_nw&t=693s

Try some Roxy Music, you fuck.
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>>72008367
Did you make that yourself or was it part of the paid shill pack?
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at least we got oblivion and art angels
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>>72008431
>being this mad
Roxy Music is a band, not his alias. Eno contributed only to a couple of albums.
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>>72008440
>the paid shill pack
>he believes that
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>>72008257
You haven't provided any arguments at all. Just stupid lies, baits and speculations.
Why even bother arguing with your shitposts?
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>>72008524
This

/this dumb thread
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>>72008505
Kanye, stop!
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>>72008542
I did mention Herbie.

he was a black guy. OK?
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>>72004319

>>71999587
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>>72007405
This
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>>72008367
this thread makes sense, no one could pretend this is attractive without getting paid
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>>72008970
>supporting your post
I bet you would even suck your own dick if you could.
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>>72008981
>cherry-picking a less flattering photo
That's not how you judge about someone's attractiveness.
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>>72007468
Do Yourself It
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Looks like Mr Bean on holiday
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>>72009083
pshh i wish i made that post
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Ai Yo. Where's my shilling check? I've not got my payment yet. WTF.

No seriously though, her music is fucking addictive. It's fucking hilarious that there are so many salty cunts out there who are just pissed off that someone like her could rise up from nothing.

If she had all the money some claim, then why the fuck would she dress up in thrift store garb and run around looking as she did back in Montreal? Makes zero sense.

She straight up has talent, she learned quick and got a bit lucky. But there is no denying her music is just damned good. Why the fuck else would her fans like her?

Her mum may be rich, but I still don't see how she'd buy her way in to a music career? Maybe if she sucked i'd believe that. But her music is fantastic. Like whatever you like OP, nobody will judge you for it.

But there are plenty who like her for what she does.
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>>72009110
Don't worry about this guy. He likes the spoon fed attractive 'in' stuff that magazines show him in the media.

She's attractive and cute. No denying that.
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>>72010168
>But there is no denying her music is just damned good
And that's where your argument falls flat on it's face. Her music is mediocre at best and highly derivative. Anyone who isn't 16 and has a perfunctory knowledge of electronic music would know that.
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>>72010286
LOL ALL music is derivative. Not sure if you really think that ANY music ever made was not derivative. Seriously. What are you thinking? That's your argument?

Listen, if you don't like her music cool. I don't care. But let us all have this circle jerk together while we wank about Grimes. She's fucking great.
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>>72008981
Grimes is attractive even on that less flattering picture. She has an unique look and she's totally cute. Look at her beautiful eyes.
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Grimes is fake news.

Remember that kids.
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>>72010454
Precisely!
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>>72010286
>Anyone who isn't 16 and has a perfunctory knowledge of electronic music would know that.
I'm over 18 and I'm an expert in electronic music. Grimes is an amazing artist and her contributions to electronic music scene are highly appreciated. You? Just a jealous pleb.
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So... let's talk about what she's working on next? Anyone know?
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>>72009110
>cherrypicking the pics with more makeup than a clown convention
That's not how you judge about someone's attractiveness.
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>>72010776
She's still attractive in that picture. The mustache is funny, but she's still cute as fuck.
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>>72010776
yikes
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>>72007047
Yes: (you)
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>>72010851
Seriously, what's wrong with the pic other than the mustache? LOL She's still cute.
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>>72010931
greasy skin
hint of a monobrow
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>>72010776
>cherrypicking bad pictures
You're lame, buddy. You have bad pictures too, don't be an asshole. It's pretty funny that 90% of her bad pictures were taken before 2013. So, it's a thing of the past.
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>>72007405
>trying to dismiss
Anon, there's nothing to be dismissed ITT. Admit it - you're just here for the (you)s because you have no life.
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>>72010776
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why do you worship someone you don't even know? she'll never realize you exist, and if she did she'd think you're a freak and call security
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>>72010979
BTFO!
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>>72010966
Dude she's sweating. LOL. She likes to get sweaty when she does her set. Mono-brow is no issue since she can trim/tweeze that. Most girls do. Even the type of ladies you like.
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>>72010992
Who the fuck said we worship her? LOL. We like her music, let's not get crazy.
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>>72010522
>I'm an expert in electronic music
so then what did you think of pierre schaeffer, bernard parmegiani, luc ferrari, dick raajimakers, eugeniusz rudnick and iannis xenakis's contributions to electronic music?
feel free to be brief
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>>72007576
>There's literally nothing special about grimes.
Based on what criteria?
Answer that, and you will also have the answer to your own question.
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>>72010992
Because she is perfect. When you fall in love with someone you literally can't control yourself.
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>>72011058
Look buddy, I'm not going to waste my time justifying my electronic music expert status. We both know you're going to react like a sperg and dismiss my arguments in a childish manner. Cheers.
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>>72011073
Wouldn't say she's perfect, but she is really fuckin' cool.
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>>72011099
We've gotta stop wasting our time with this fuckin guy. Let's just keep on topic. Anyone know what she's working on/releasing any time soon?
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>>72005959
>DYI artist
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>>72007686
>you have to have knowledge in how the music industry works to understand what is being implied here
Professional musician reporting in: Nope - it's clear as day to even the layman what is being 'implied' here. It's also clearly not true if you actually do your research and find out about the origins of Grimes.
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Grimes beat Marina, Shura, Banks, Tove Lo, Lana Del Rey in a song competition on PopJustice. Only a badass like her could conquer the whole Top 3: http://forum.popjustice.com/threads/yeah-yeah-uh-huh-ooh-yeah-the-alt-pop-girls-rate-winner.62094/page-138
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>>72011146
Not to mention this guy still hasn't posted any proof of this delusional theory of his.
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>>72011183
This. Zero evidence, only bullshitting. Just another day on moo...
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>>72007699
>is it truthful that she has signed to major record labels which promote her (4ad)?
No. 4AD isn't a major record label.

>is it truthful that she has teamed up with PR companies (purple PR) is it truthful that she uses Roc Nation (a fucking "media company" founded by jay z) to promote her?
Not until after she was already independently famous, meaning that neither of those entities can lay a claim to having made her what she is today.
Nothing you've said here has had any meaning desu.
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>>72011137
isn't it funny how grimes fans assume every time they get into an argument that it's all the same person, yet whenever someone accuses them of samefagging, they sperg out and call them insane autists?
can u say del u sion al
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>>72010454
She must like looking at herself whenever she passes a reflective surface.
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>>72011247
This. Grimes was already fairly famous with Visions when she signed a contract with Roc Nation. It's not like they took a random person on the street and made her famous. She worked very hard to be in her current position.

As for 4AD, her A&R actually tried really hard to sign her: https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/who-says-girls-cant-find-music-jane-abernethy-tuneyards-grimes

>Because of the internet, there’s so much information all the time. It’s not about when you hear about someone, it’s about when they grab your attention so hard you can’t ignore it anymore. With Grimes, I was already aware of her, she’d made two albums and an EP. I was on my way to Pop Montreal, and I met her manager at the time, who ran the label she was on, and found out that they were looking for a partnership, someone that they could work with outside of Canada. Her music at that point was not obviously commercial, so they were talking to independent labels. There were a lot who really liked her, but I remember Claire saying we were pretty much the only ones who would take Visions and put it out just as it was, other labels apparently asked for her to rework it with a producer.
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>>72011343
The most important part:
>The other thing I would say about Grimes is that there was so much happening around her at that time that I assumed she was already working with a bigger label. The first time I went to see her play and I was kicking myself for missing that opportunity. It was the best show I’d seen for a new artist at that time. The next day I met her manager and they said they were looking for partners and I literally ran back to my room to email my boss her record. What I’m trying to say is that you don’t need a label anymore to get things started, a good label will enhance what you are already doing. By the time Claire was signed, she was already releasing records on a small imprint, touring and doing interviews, and she had a visual presence. These days, a label has the most impact if you’ve already got the wheels in motion before they’ve got involved.
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I will Destroy grimes
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OP, do you copy that?

>These days, a label has the most impact if you’ve already got the wheels in motion before they’ve got involved.
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>194 posts
>44 IPs

shit thread, kys waifufags
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>>72011431
>another meaningless comment by this stupid hater
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>>72011372
you can't
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>>72011495

HATERS JELLY MAD LOL XDDDDD
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>>72011073
sorry to pop your bubble but who you "love" is a commercial persona trying to replicate bjork and hipsters, she's different irl, and idolization isn't love
find a real hobby before reality hits you in the face
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>>72011372
And how are you going to do that from your moms basement? Man do something cool with your time and quit pestering us grimes freaks. We love this chick lol.
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>>72011034
speak for yourself. the majority of grimesfags literally worship her. see>>72011073
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>>72011595
Dude i've listened to both Bjork and Grimes they are VERY different acts. I'm not even much a fan of Bjork, albeit she has a few cool tracks. Again, we're all entitled to our opinions.

It's okay to like different things. This whole "stop liking what I don't like" attitude is childish.
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>>72011595
she's not trying to be bjork and she hates hipsters so your point is invalid
also
>implying you know her irl
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>>72011646
Wow, fuck... lol. I ain't that bad into her stuff. I like her music just fine but I ain't got time to make shrines to ladies. Don't put the p on a pedestal and all that. She's rad as fuck but there are 7 billion people on this planet. Half of them are female. No need to get obsessed.
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>>72011687
But I love only Claire and I see her in my dreams all the time. If I'm naturally charmed by her beauty then why should I resist?
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>>72011760
you're pathetic
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>>72011760
Hey Brother, you do you. If you feel that's okay then do it. I think it's better to keep your options open. Maybe there's a lot of ladies around you that you're ignoring for this one. And shit man, I feel you, she's cute as fuck. But so far as I remember isn't she with someone?

I think we should all just wish her the best and hope she's happy and try to find our own lady friends to be with you know? But if you have a soft spot in your heart for her, I don't blame you.

Best wishes to you man. Hope you can find someone for yourself.
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>>72011811
You don't understand because you've never loved for real.
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>>72011811
Nah mang. He's just got his heart a flutter. I got this back in my school days about a lot of ladies. It happens. I feel like he'll find someone in his life, he just needs to get out more is all.
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>>72011835
Keep in mind, love needs to be reciprocated to be real. Ain't really love if it's not two people together. I sincerely hope you find someone brother. Otherwise it's just infatuation.
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>>72011835
>you've never loved for real.
aside from the love i feel for my family this is true. but if you actually think that your creepy obsession with her is true love then you're wrong.

you've never even met her ffs.
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>>72011832
Thanks, anon. I've been in love with her for more than two years already and I feel like I will love Claire forever.
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>>72011835

lol ur stuck in a boy like fantasy talkin about real love? nigga real life is not anime no matter how hard u try.
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Grimes, St. Vincent, Lauren Mayberry, Lorde, Charli XCX, Marina Diamandis, Carly Rae Jepsen and Lana Del Rey walk into a bar

I throw a grenade
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>>72011917
Then what's true love, anon?

>you've never even met her ffs.
But I know enough about her personality, I watched all her 100+ interviews..
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>>72011927
It's alright man. But I think you need to get out there and explore your options. I don't think she'd want you to waste your time waiting for her when she's already with someone else.

You want her to be happy don't you? If she's happy with her guy, then let her be, you know what I mean? If he makes her happy isn't that what we want for her?

Bro, I hope you get out there and find someone for yourself. Don't waste your life man. I've been there and it sucks so bad. I don't want you to waste your life waiting for someone like her who has no idea who we are. We're just fans. We couldn't hope to be groupies either because that's not how she rolls.

Just get out there man, find your lady friend. 2 Years is a long time to dedicate to this. Please brother, get out there. I hope you find someone.
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>>72007734
James D'eon and Claire Boucher didn't meet until after she'd already finished writing her first album as Grimes. And Mac Boucher was still a teenager living at home in Vancouver when history was being made with Grimes in Montreal (hint: go take a look at a map...)
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>>72012011
>James D'eon
his name is Chris
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>>72011986
>Then what's true love, anon?
mutual sexual attraction combined with mutual social compatibility. nothing more.

note the word mutual
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>>72011986
True love, in truth... doesn't exist. There are bonds that people have but real love takes work. It's when two people decide together to stay together despite hardship and fights and bullshit.

But you can't have that if it's just one sided. One sided "love" unreturned is not love. It's infatuation. I hate to be the messenger in this one, because god damn it hurts pining for people and realizing it's a waste of time.

Again, I think you really need to get out there and talk to some girls in your life. There's probably half dozen of them around that you know.
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>>72007738
>this is such a stupid explanation.
Because being jealous of someone else's success isn't a very smart thing to do. Nobody here ever said her haters were geniuses - quite the opposite, in fact.
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>>72011760
Anon, just because she is a real person doesn't make your infatuation different from, for example, an anime character. There's no real love here, you don't know her personally. Try to go out more, excercise, go to therapy (not meant as an insult, therapy is actually the norm in my country and carries no stigma whatsoever)
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>>72007789
>All of whom are better
Better based on what criteria? Care to make this an actually music-related conversation?
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>>72011835
>>72011760
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>>72012058
>mutual sexual attraction
Claire deserves to be loved in non-sexual way.
Love can be different. You can love your girlfriend, family or God. Love for Grimes is like the latter. It's much higher and dedicated to the superior creature that loves us all.
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>>72012199
Do you ever think that this waifuism is a direct result of the sort of pressures society has foisted on the modern male?

I mean shit, half the time you can't do a god damned thing without money, good looks, and/or confidence out your ass. Without that you're not viable.

Most people take time to develop that, and due to financial pressures and the economy and the continual push for growth people are being pushed to the brink.

Sex drives are dropping, birth rates declining, divorce rates going up, etc. All due to social pressures to keep up with the jones's. But hey that's just my retarded observation.

This sort of thing will continue as more and more males retreat and give up on life because honestly it's becoming a shit show to keep up with. If you're not a millionaire, over 6' and what not, you're apparently fish food.

I can see why people resort to the waifu bullshit. Easier to live in a fantasy (see gaming) than to bother with reality. Reality is a tough bitch to deal with a lot of the time. Unless you're privileged or won the genetics lottery.
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>>72012276
>It's much higher and dedicated to the superior creature that loves us all.
>i love grimes in the same way that people love God

anon, you need to stop.
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>>72012276

you don't get to decide what grimes deserves
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>>72012359
sure i don't, i just wish all the best for her
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>>72012276
Fair enough, just hope you're not losing yourself in a delusion or anything. I've seen a lot of docs about people losing their minds about people like this. Like that dude who stalked bjork. Crazy shit. I feel bad for these people.

Just get out of the house more and find someone you're compatible with. Trust me, you'll be better off than pining away in the wind waiting for 'love' to be reciprocated.

And yeah, it has not much to do with sex. But I think when feelings are involved they can get pretty deep. Get pretty disjointed with reality. Got to use your head and think rationally about this.

She's an awesome girl, i'll give you that, but pining for her... nah man. Just enjoy her music is my advice.
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>>72012276
see
>>72012117
you are legitimately unwell. i wish you the best, but please stop shitposting here
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>>72007847
>Any female electropop artist from the 80's and 90's ever
Isn't the direct equivalent of one from today, because time travel isn't a thing.
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>>72012338
even if you're partially right, the part of this that's completely disgusting is the defeatist attitude. you're a man anon. if you don't reflect the person who you want to be in the world then do something about it. be proactive. fight for what you want.

don't just be a pathetic virgin who obsesses over two dimensional pictures of girls who you'll never meet. that's like the most dishonorable thing i can think of
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>>72007854
>hundreds of people do it
Sound like Grimes? Have you ever tried listening to her music? Because your pic related indicates otherwise.
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>>72012338
waifuism hurts nasty numales and "masc" males because, in removing the """""results""""" or "pursuit" from the picture, it shows you what your whole little disgusting endeavor and dream really is.
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>>72011989
>If he makes her happy isn't that what we want for her?
i'm not sure if she is happy with him though
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>>72012641
>i'm not sure if she is happy with him though
who the hell are you to be deciding that anon?
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>>72004023
I guess thats why theirs so many stories of her sleeping with guys and sucking dick
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>>72007962
>using a meme term like 'Grimesfags' unironically
>expecting to be taken seriously

>Nah. This ain't similar to Grimes at all.
Yeah... not really, actually. For one thing there isn't any sort of contrapuntal voice leading going on - which is an extremely distinctive facet of Grimes' musical style. Imo you'd be better off comparing them to Labyrinth Ear:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mO9MzATrqo
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>>72012686
I'm not deciding. I've only said that I'm not sure about that.
Also, I've never seen/read that she actually loves him.
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>>72012714
>he believes in what's being posted on 4chan
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>>72012758
but it's none of your business! if i found out someone who i never met was scrutinizing my personal relationship with my significant other and questioning whether or not we actually loved each other i would be furious. most people would be.
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>>72012758
Bro. Serious though, she wouldn't be with him for as long as she apparently has been if she didn't love him. And in the end, you know it's none of our damned business who she chooses to keep company with.

Again, I think you're projecting a bit. I wish you'd get out more and find a lady friend to get you off or something so you could get off this line of thinking. It's self destructive.

Again, man i'm telling you she's fucking rad as hell but ain't nobody in this life worth pissing your life away over. Nobody. Be true to yourself man. Have some respect for yourself. Get out there and find someone for you, because she's good bro. She's got her shit setup and she's happy living her life, please do the same for you.
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>>72012805
ok, I'm sorry, Claire. I love you! Let's be friends!
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>>72012758
Where the hell do you people even find these pictures?! LOL. Shit man. I thought I had read up on her... guess not.
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>>72007997
Anon, if you're gonna shitpost about Grimes on /mu you better be prepared to have it force-fed back to you through multiple iterations. Expecting anything less at this point is madness on your part. Or just a symptom of you being a noob.
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>>72004145
lil b the based god already smashed my man
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>>72012840

man you cant honestly think someone in his mindset just gonna go out and find a girl easy. look at the kinda shit this dudes typing. if any girl gave him the slightest bit of attention he would probably stalk or rape her. dont encourage this fucking degenerate.
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>>72008048
>After the absorption of EMI by Sony Music Entertainment and Universal Music Group in December 2011 the "big three" were created and on January 8, 2013 after the merger there were layoffs of forty workers from EMI. European regulators forced Universal Music to spin off EMI assets which became the Parlophone Label Group which was acquired by Warner Music Group.[36] Nielsen SoundScan issued a report in 2012, noting that these labels controlled 88.5% of the market, and further noted:[37]
>- Universal Music Group (USA based) which owns EMI Music — 32.41% + 6.78% of EMI Group
>- Sony Music Entertainment (USA based) which owns publishing arm of EMI Group — 30.25%
>- Warner Music Group— 19.15%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_industry#Consolidation

If your label isn't owned by one of those three, then you're objectively not signed to a major label. 4AD/Beggars Group is owned by Martin Mills.
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>>72013012
that's more of the defeatist attitude that's destroying this place and enabling these people. he just needs to work on bettering himself. however small his steps may be
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>>72008097
>t r i g g e r e d
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>>72008257
>Grimes is objectively good
Good/bad are subjective terms. They can't be applied to things objectively.
>I get to decide what a big record label is
see
>>72013046
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>>72008307
see
>>72012750
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>>72013166
>Good/bad are subjective terms. They can't be applied to things objectively.
why do you think that anon was criticizing that argument?
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>>72011951
Grimes kicks back the grenade in your direction.

*BOOM*

You died.
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>>72008627
Is Grimes mentioned in the OP of that thread?
I thought not.

Next time look up the word 'explicit' before responding. It will make you look less dense.
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>>72009851
Why? Do you enjoy samefagging?
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>>72010992
>worship someone
Anon, you do realize that the purpose of music and music fandom (and therefore the contents of /mu) is for idle entertainment, right? Right?
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>>72013428
see
>>72011073
>>72011646
>>72011760

stop pretending that you're not insane
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>>72013012
Yeah I know, but maybe if us fucking idiot bros actually stuck together we could get one of ours that is having a hard time out there and get some pussy instead of going through what he is.

The guy is obviously in need of a lay but fuck man. I know he's stuck on her but he's gotta get off it. He just needs a bit of encouragement. Maybe he ran into too many people who didn't give a shit and his mind is eating itself trying to find something.

Everybody needs somebody, but it's better if they actually love you back. Encourage this guy to find someone for himself.
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>>72007876
You're an idiot, sir.
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>>72013447
I don't think he's insane, I think he needs to get laid. That's what I was talking about up in the waifu section of this disaster of a thread.

Too many of us guys are acting all hard and kicking lil' bros like this aside and treating them like bitches so they are ACTING like bitches, craving attention from people like this. We need to help them.

Now anyway, back to our regularly scheduled Grimes is awesome posting.
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>>72012582
delete this
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>>72013449
>>72013506
good posts anon
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>>72013533
I try, brother, I try. We all lose our way sometimes. I hope we all work together to keep us all moving forward. We're only as strong as our weakest link. People forget that shit and then we wonder why half our society is bouncing around back there 'cause the fucking chain broke. Dammit.
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>>72011279
>isn't it funny how grimes fans assume every time they get into an argument that it's all the same person
Grimes hate threads (ones not counter populated by Grimes fans - a rarity I know) usually max out at around 6 unique IPs. The last official Grimes general ( >>71925514 ) reached bump limit with 72 unique IPs. Also it really isn't very hard to tell how diverse a posting group is going by writing style alone. You should try actually paying attention some time. Just my post says Anonymous at the top doesn't mean I am, and nor are you.
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I bet she brings guys home with james their playing vidya and she just looks at him in disgust


I get a total mommy feel from that guy
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>>72013645
I'm kinda of a newtard on this forum so how do you find out the unique IP's of a thread? There are so many shit talkers trying to gum up the thread when all we want to do is wank about grimes lol.

She's a great girl and I think some people are just out to shit on peoples good time. They probably don't have anything going on in their lives so they need that validation of pissing other people off. Like smacking over someones jenga set. Poor bastards are starved for attention.
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>>72011306
Anon, if Grimes had been looking into a reflective surface when that photo was being taken we wouldn't be able to see her.
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>>72011372
Nice copypasta.
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>>72013733
>ruining the illusion
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Honestly, is anyone better than Grimes in this decade?
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>>72013838
Not sure why we need to keep comparing her to everyone else. It's not who's "better" it's what you enjoy. Why are people not getting that? We all have different tastes. She make some catchy as fuck music. We don't need to have a dick waving contest about it.
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>>72012054
Lol - oops.

James Dean + Chris D'eon = James D'eon

Names are arbitrary anyway.
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>>72003880

>fake tattoos

shit Grimes, I didn't expestate that, those tats on your hand and shit
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Say what you will, but Grimey is really, really pretty. She's so damn likeable.
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>>72013195
>why do you think that anon was criticizing that argument?
Because it's a ridiculous thing to say which some people honestly don't seem to realize. Hence why I'm backing up the point.
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>>72014180
>Hence why I'm backing up the point.
oh okay we're on the same page here. i thought you were disagreeing with him.
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>>72013447
Author of >>72013428 here. Fyi I'm a completely different anon to the one you've apparently corresponding with. I don't believe in worshiping other people.
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>>72013277
grimes is explicitly related not explicitly mentioned by op
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Let's get back on track here. What is this thread about? Are we defending against OP's post because it's not backed up with facts or are we shitposting or are we trying to help that one bro out who is crazy for her?
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>>72014373
This thread is a mess. The OP (what an imbecile) was BTFO multiple times, so there's nothing left to argue about that.
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this whole thing is just a giant fucking cancer tornado at this point

can mods just add any variation of the word "grimes" to the fucking spam filter and ban people who circumvent it thx
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The funny thing is that Grimes herself hates 4chan grimesfags. I think grimesfags are just trolls or obsessed autist, and she loathes them.
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>>72014633
this
grimesfags are even worse than muh dead wifeposters
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>>72014674
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>>72014674
>The funny thing is that Grimes herself hates 4chan grimesfags
proof or gtfo.
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>>72014674
Its literally one guy who's relentlessly spamming and maybe 1-2 people going along with it at this point
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>>72014633
>stop talking about artists i hate
>trying to ban discussion related to a musician on a fucking music board
Talking about censorship: how would you feel to ban all your posts, fucker? Not too well?
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>>72014753
are you a retard? the op is clearly a hater.
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>>72014696
I forgot the and/or. But the point still stands. Grimes hates 4chan and the "fanbase" that worship her.

>>72014726
Your newfaggin is showing
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>>72014766
>how would you feel to ban all your posts, fucker
nice english pablo
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>>72014791
Not an argument, fat ass.
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>>72014633
"giant fucking cancer tornado" Fucking LOLLERCOASTER! I haven't laughed this hard about any 4 chan post previously. Kudos to you sir. You win 1 free internetz.

Anyway, I think we've proven that Grimes has fuck loads of fans and that we're a cranky bunch. But that it's all in good fun. These trolls are hilarious to play with.

I mean how do you get THAT butthurt about someones success that you piss away your day baiting grimes fans? LOL Like wut are ya doing fella?
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>>72014753
this
>>
Just a question for my newb ass, can we just like keep this all in one thread or do we have to keep seeing 47 threads about this? It's hard to keep up.

I'm curious about this artist and her work and it's fun to chat it up with fellow fans, even if the haters come out in full force trying to deride her accomplishments.
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>>72014857
(You)

spill the beanz, h8r
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>>72014823
are you trying to fuck to me man?

anyone can't fuck to me ok
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>>72014897
Don't you tell me to fuck. LOL! Sorry I couldn't help it. This thread is totally insane at this point hahahaha.
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>>72014850
>"giant fucking cancer tornado" Fucking LOLLERCOASTER! I haven't laughed this hard about any 4 chan post previously. Kudos to you sir. You win 1 free internetz.
i dont really understand what kind of self aware triple ironic humor you're going for here but im not really feeling it

You're just kind of an annoying twat
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>>72014875

her haters are just a bunch of stupid crybabies. first, they're trying really hard to insult her and her fans. what happens next? they lose so bad that they feel the need to whine all day long how annoying are her fans. pathetic dipshits.
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>>72014928
As are you sir. Now on with the thread you crazy sumbitch.
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>>72014938
Yep. I'm reading all the posts. It's hilarious. I don't take any personal offense to any of this of course because like most well adjusted folks, we just want to have fun.

Anyway... enough of this reading of shitposts.

Fav album? Fav song?

Halfaxa for me. Weregild for whatever reason resonates with me. There are a good many of her unreleased songs I like like Fifteen Minutes To. Really shows off her singing abilities.
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>>72014938
This
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>>72014938
you seem really upset. you care waay too much about grimes anon
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>>72015016
No man, that's why we're in this thread. We're talking about grimes. Otherwise i'd be in the Pantera or B.B. King thread... whereever the fuck that is.
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>>72003880
You might need this after pushing out that load.
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>>72015016

i just like her music. i don't even mind her appearance.
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>>72015001

visions is transcendental. few albums achieved this status.
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>>72015131
She cleans up real nice.
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>>72015172
forgot the pic
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>>72015189
Kek I'm saving this.
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>>72015172
>>72015198

she's pretty, but her music is the real show stopper.
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>>72015257
I turned my GF on to AA and she asked me for more.
mfw based GF.
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>>72015189
Regarding the last category: shame this thread was made by a son of a bitch. I'm in the position to say that: I did 60+ Grimes threads with 300+ posts.
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>>72015331
http://www.autism-society.org/get-involved/national-autism-awareness-month/
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>>72015331
Don't take it personal. A lot of these people have jack shit going on in their lives and they need an outlet. What better punching bag than someone who has a shit load of success and who doesn't even know they exist? And on top of that shit cake they place their flag hoping to piss off legions of her fans.

Dude's gonna have a bad time. :/
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>>72015363
I'm fine, thanks. Keep using that site like a good autist that you are.
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>>72015319
Love this lol. But attention to detail desu. Listening to walkman but has cd's.... hmmmm... Awesome shit though.
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>>72015385
Good point. I have a feeling that these trolls are mad irl because they can't stand the fact that her fans are having fun discussing a great artist. That plus their envy related her success drive them crazy. Their loss.
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>>72015459
*related to her success
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>>72015459
Pretty much.
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So question for you Grimes Fans. What's one thing you know about her that most fans wouldn't know?
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>>72013719
>how do you find out the unique IP's of a thread?
Scroll to the very bottom of the page and see the stats to the lower right.
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>>72015724
Can't see shit captain. Do I have the retardation?
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hi
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The end of a shitty thread. OP >>72003880, suck a pen15 fuckwit.
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bye
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Thread over? What's happening?
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this died some time ago
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>>72016305
die
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