Use this thread to vent and rant about music. I don't understand

Metal is shit
Hip hop is shit
Whiny BS like Mark Kosiak is shit
Stop making up BS rock subgenres too

I fucking hate the Beatles and Nirvana they aren't even fucking good

/mu/ is extremely america-centric. We only seem to talk about third wave american post-rock and people write off two tone because /mu/ only talks about third wave american two tone (ska punk)

I'm like 90% sure Kpop and Jpop both fucking suck and the people who listen to them are weird, delusional weebs.

>>71882202
It's 80% Americans here hence all the white-guilt memerap and thinking all bleeps are ultra/edc EDM

>>71882202
An even bigger tragedy is that no one talks about shit like Rocksteady
Guys claiming to know Ska but it starts and ends with Streetlight Manifesto

kiss are one of hte best fvucking bands of all time and htey deserve /mu/core status dbumb fcucks

>>71882242
>>71882252
For a board that sucks black cock 24/7 I don't get the hate for Jamaican music especially since it all started there.

>>71882292
>For a board that sucks black cock 24/7
Considering that half of this board actually believes in the "niggermusic lol m i rite?" meme? Fucking no.

Master is painfully underrated
It hurts to see that Insomniax started making noize instead of more metal punk
Deicide fucking suck
Metal isn't original anymore, it's all bands copying early 80s-90s originals

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>>71882117
I fucking hate "experimental music". Experimenting in music in perfectly fine, the Beatles did that with Sgt. Peppers and that was a great album, experimentation isn't bad at all. Nearly all great albums had to experiment enough to be unique enough for people to really get interested. But if you release a series of random noises and explain yourself by calling your work "experimental" and that it is an "acquired taste" than you can go to hell.

if a fucking woman does something everybody hates it even when, if it were replaced with a man's voice, they would cream

if you don't like the beatles i disregard your opinion on music immediately.

Hip hop is EDM with rapping.

It's literally electronic dance music with more vocals.

>>71882702
Is she alright?

>Hey guys we talk about this record a lot, right?
>yeah
>Why don't we make a chart of good records that we talk about a lot?
>ok
>days pass
>LOL you liek le mem album ok pooter?
>yes
>HA such plen taest

I can understand that only listening to /mu/core is incredibly retarded but dismissing all /mu/core albums just because they're in a chart is pretty stupid. About 90% of albums on this chart are exceptional and dismissing them as "plebeian" or "a meme" just because they're talked about a lot on a Czechoslovakian Lawn Mowing forum makes you look like a full blown autistic faggot.

stop it

>>71882702
>the Beatles experimented with sgt pepper
Wew, that whole paragraph just to say that you're pleb? Being a pleb is fine but being an opinionated pleb that hates on things they don't enjoy is not

I fucking hate poptimist plebs on this board, they're even worse than kpopfags and waifufags because they're taken somewhat seriously.
All /mu/core albums are actually pretty good, if you think otherwise you're a contrarian faggot
Generals are pretty much the only places where actual discussion happens
Tripfaggotry can be a good thing
A lot of IDM isn't good
Saying something is pretentious or whiny is not an argument
Saying folk music is simple is also not an argument
This place would be a lot better if people just saged, reported, and filtered obvious /pol/ threads
Charts are a good idea
RYM is okay
Metalfags are the only fans not completely corrupted by autism

>>71882875
incorrect
>>71882234
correct

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This is a good band, but no one agrees.

99% of "indie" "rock" is shit

>>71883144
>incorrect

Objectively correct actually.

This board is more cringe than youtube

>>71882702
lol

>>71883182
One of the highlights of Indie Landfill

>>71883249
you've activated my autism card
Hip Hop refers to the combination of Graffiti, Entrepreneurship, Breakdancing, Beatboxing, DJing, and Rapping (MCing).
Originally the first hip hop artists used turntable skills to manipulate old R&B, funk, and soul records by extending the break beats and then the MC would rap over that. Later they adopted Drum Kits and Synthesizers to create their own beats, which still don't sound like edm you fucking homo. Does beatboxing sound like edm? The main similarity is that they both come from Disco and Jamaican music.

>>71883389
All of that is Electronically produced music for dancing to, just like the dancehall and disco it came from.

There is nothing that separates hip hop from EDM.

>>71883414
>beatboxing
>electronically produced
hmmmmmm really makes me think

Nothing music related makes me more angry than people that buy records for the sole purpose of flipping them for 5x their MSRP
It pisses me off because all it does is take away that experience from real fans of the music. And it's always those fucking European pricks that do it. 90% of the time when I check discogs and see gouged prices, some fucking German or French asshole is trying to sell a "unopened unplayed perfect condition" copy of some record that I can't get anywhere else. Vinyl is meant to be played, not ratholed away to be sold for a profit.
And I know this isn't just because of "the recent vinyl hype" because these records are over 15 years old, still in the original shrink. Its disgusting. Play your records.

>>71883389
Actually current pillars of hip hop are:
1. Street Fashion
2. Street Fashion
3. Street Fashion
4. Street Fashion
5. The Film "The Fifth Element"

>>71883429
Wow, a few people beatbox, big whoop.

>>71883462
Also freestyling, can't do that shit with edm

>>71883484
>what is jungle
>what is grime

>>71882234
>Jpop
no
> kpop
99.99% correct

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Radiohead isn't that great
Swans is alright when they sound country
There's more good country in the world that isn't Townes
Podfarm is an alright vst
Dronevil ~final~ was better than Flood overall
Line6 amps aren't terrible, they just aren't great
BTBAM is boring as shit
There aren't enough single tall thick big feet conservative girls in music
Kanye hasn't been good since 2010
Kendrick Kamar is boring as fuck
Drake is boring as fuck
Necros songs are only good when they're sad
none of you fuckers will sell the self titled by Peste Noire on Discogs so I can buy it
No body cares about Diane Cluck here as they should
Sierra Cassidy is the only worth sister in Cocorosie
Fender only makes good bases and amps

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Fuck Hip Hop
Fuck the mainstream
Fuck metal
Fuck pop and poptimists

>>71882234
>he hasn't listened to Perfume-Triangle

sad

>>71883484
You can make EDM without electronic instruments too, still EDM, like hip hop

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9g4zYVG-rjM

Gutteral death metal and 'funny' gore/death albums can eat a dick, it's so fucking edgy it hurts.
Modern techno is awful, anything is fun on xtc, it's no excuse for your music to be totally shit and lazy.
/mu/ manages to take the fun out of good and fun albums. We've found what we love and we're collectively meme-fucking it until it bleeds out in a corner of the internet and dies.

>>71882875
>i don't understand music genre or culture

Nice /adv/ crosspost. I thought I was there for a a sec, and I was gonna post a S A D B O Y S rant.
>>71883524
I like how you're so out of touch that in your b8 post you say Drake is boring, as if people fucking love him in the first place.

>>71883505
grime is pretty much a subgenre of hip hop
I've never heard jungle freestyling, and freestyling in itself is a rap (component of hip hop) concept
>>71883568
there are very clearly synthesizers in that video my man, and this shit is so disco it hurts. Also no freestyling there.

this thread is beginning to devolve into the classic 2 autists arguing about something irrelevent

disco is the worst music ever

>>71883631
Electronic
Dance
Music

From Bronx street parties and breakdancers to big festivals and concerts full of people dancing, hip hop is another part of the EDM umbrella, fact.

A crow looked at me is legitimately fantasitic, and I fucking hate the faggots saying it's shit

>>71883659
Are you a racist time traveler who only wants to hear Eagles and Led Zeppelin on his little AM radio

>>71883645

Well I'm tight with 30 Phillipenos that love guy

>>71883646
>grime is pretty much a subgenre of hip hop
lolno

>>71883646
Hip hop didn't invent rapping you dick

>>71883709
nah, it brought about a much needed change, but god i fucking have every disco song i've ever heard

>>71883710
yeah now the ball's in your court, I know jack shit about grime for the most part
grime is definitely heavily influenced by hip hop though
>>71883732
>hip hop didn't invent speaking in verse
what an astute observation
it's still the genre that uses it the most heavily and grime obviously took it from hip hop and not slam poetry or some shit

Hip-hop/Grime is shit: I can't understand their lyrics and when I can, I can't relate to their ghetto/Black stories.
Metal is for repressed fags and retards (despite the pointless musicianship).
I force myself to listen to Techno/House and I don't even go to clubs WTF

>>71883874
Grime tit from Jamaican music due to all the immigrants th the UK

>>71883684
But it originally and for a long time had fuck all to do with electronic music. It used non-electronic breakbeats and funk/soul records as backing to MCing and toasting. That's not electronic

>>71883874

Well I said the guy's boring as shit

>>71883915
>non-electronic breakbeats

That only existed because of using 2 turntables, the whole basis for the entirety of dance music lmao

>>71883905
fair enough
>>71883931
what?

>>71883065
Not him, but The Beatles DID experiment with Sgt. Pepper. Or are you calling him a pleb because he said it's a great album? You shoulda quoted that part in that case.

>>71883946
The use of turntables does not make it EDM. Lmao

>>71883947

I don't know anymore, fuck Drake

>>71883960
The Beatles 'experimented' in relation to pop music but in a wider concept, it had been done before just not in popular rock. I was calling him a pleb based on the rest of the paragraph t bh

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>>71883885
>Metal is for repressed fags and retards
>I force myself to listen to Techno/House

I lol'd

>>71883065
pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb pleb

>Tame Impala is derivative trash and basically proof that you're a redditor if you enjoy it
>Tame Impala is also a further sign of how far rock has fallen as a genre, in that the "best" we have is a neo psych band with no testosterone whatsoever
>King Gizzard is in this same boat
>so is Mac demarco (even with all the memeing, he does seem like a nice guy though)
>Grimes is pretty decent disregarding the waifuism
>Though I think she has ghost producers, otherwise she is pretty talented if that's really her doing it all
>I don't give a fuck about St. Vincent
>MBDTF is very overrated but a good album, only gets fellated because pitchfork told you that it was a classic
>Graduation gets shit on but it is actually a great album and has pretty much no skips
>Barry Bonds gets shit on specifically when it's one of the coolest hip hop beats ever
>I'm sick of post-2010 kanye fans trying to act like they know anything
>Yeezus is shit and I don't care how many people said it was good, that has literally 0 meaning to me
>animal collective is pretty cool, not incredible like some of their fanboys claim but definitely not terrible
>IDLSIDGO is a terrible album, Doris was superior
>Cherry Bomb was shit on because of backlash against Tyler's hype and newfound fame with normies, it's actually one of the best post-2011 OF albums to date
>OF gets shit on because of backlash, but they actually opened a lot of doors and were influential in the internet era of hip hop
>Danny Brown is excellent and I will always love him, but Atrocity Exhibition simply wasn't that great
>the beats were lacking at a lot of points
>Ain't it funny's hook is kind of annoying, but I guess I understand why
>ITCOTCK is vastly overrated, but I can understand it's influence
>DSOTM gets shit on but it's still really good
>Later King Crimson is better than ITCOTCK
>Channel Orange was boring
>I don't care about Iceage
>I don't care about DIIV, or any of those other pitchfork approved bands I'm supposed to listen to

>>71882702
>Beatles
>Experimental
Pick one

Oasis is the greatest band of all time plebs, stop lying to yourselves

>>71884242
>testosterone
How to spot a meathead in one word

>>71884282
Not him, but you clearly dont know shit about music anon.

>>71884337
hi montie

>>71882147
>anything except metal and rap

>>71884347
How were they experimental then big man?

>>71884347
What did they do that could be considered experimental? I'm honestly perplexed.

>>71882117
Mac Demarco makes boring albums. The singles are always good but the albums as a whole are not consistent in that respect

>>71884242
>IAOTS did absolutely nothing for me
>Regardless of memeing, Death Grips are to me a very good, influential group
>A lot of dadrock is good, accessible music
>Poptimism is annoying but there is SOME good pop out there being released these days
>Kendrick is good, but overrated
>I enjoyed GKMC musically more than TPAB
>TPAB was a good album, but overrated because muh politics
>Section 80 was terrible
>Kanye has been washed since Yeezus and it's clear he's just trying to "keep up with the kids"
>Kanye is not a genius
>Kanye needs 500 writers just to put together trash like TLOP
>Live Love ASAP was a great "mixtape" and it will go down as an important album of this era
>Wiz Khalifa, regardless of his lack of lyrical songwriting, makes good pop music (can be hit or miss)
>His beat selection is better than nearly every other rapper in this generation
>Freddie Gibbs is overrated
>Pinata was overrated, but a good listen
>MF Doom is an excellent MC, but overrated
>Madvillainy wasn't as enjoyable as MM Food to me
>Boards of Canada deserve all the praise they get
>Aphex Twin deserves all the praise he gets
>David Bowie deserves all the praise he gets
>"Emo" has pretty much always sucked, except for first wave
>Spiderland deserves all the praise it gets
>LUM is overrated on this board, but he's still good
>I can respect what the Beach Boys did, but I can't really into them, though I like a considerable amount of their stuff

>>71884242
Imagine giving this much of a fuck about hip-hop

>>71884346
That may be, but I feel it is sorely missing in a lot of today's "rock"

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>>71883414
>If a song uses computers in it's production, it's electronic
>>71883646
>If a song uses synthesizers it's electronic

I'm not sure if you're trolling or just really stupid

>>71884474
>Imagine caring about music on a music board

inb4 "music"

>>71884384
They litteraly went from commercially big hits to making trippy subliminal shit on and off, they were the biggest band in the world while also making psychadelic stuff all together which by definition made it experimental during the peak of their carreer.

>>71884500
the guy i was replying to said
>You can make EDM without electronic instruments too, still EDM, like hip hop
when there were synths in the video

I don't get the appeal of The Smiths.
Tool is one of the worst bands of all time. If not THE worst.
Progressive rock fans are pretentious cunts.
Hurley is Weezer's third best album and it pains me that they abandoned that sound and just regressed to a bad rip-off of their first album.
The King of Limbs is Radiohead's best album.
Metal is fucking boring.
Sun Kil Moon and all that guys other projects are terrible.
Modest Mouse's new album was pretty good.
Piero Scruffy is the worst music critic that ever existed.
There have been no good double albums released in the last 15 years. The double album is dead.
Thom Yorke needs to get off his high horse.
Kendrick Lamar is decent at best.
The only good thing about K-pop is the aesthetics.
Vaporwave should have ended in 2012.
1977, 1991 and 2000 were the three best years for music.
Remain In Light is not even in the Talking Heads' top 5.

>Islands is the best King Crimson album, bar none
>Reverberation is low-key the patrician Echo and the Bunnymen album
>Hail to the Thief might be Radiohead's best album. What it lacks in flow/sequencing it makes up for in just how good every single song on it is
>Tomorrow's Modern Boxes is better than a good half of Radiohead's discography- I'd rate it above In Rainbows
>I get Mark Kozelek and Phil Elverum mixed up way too often
>Naked is the fourth best Talking Heads album, and Fear of Music is definitely their best
>Tales from Topographic Oceans is as good as, if not better than Close to the Edge. I don't get the hype for Fragile and The Yes Album, though Heart of the Sunrise is a great song. Also Jon Anderson's lyrics aren't that bad to be honest
>Holland is at least the third best Beach Boys album
>A Saucerful of Secrets > Piper at the Gates of Dawn
>That new Slowdive album better be at least half-decent. I don't expect too much, but I predict it'll be on-par with Just For a Day
>On that note, 5 EP might be the best thing Slowdive has ever released. In Mind is phenomenal
>Recurring is the best Spacemen 3 album
>Songs in A&E is one of the better Spiritualized albums, I might like it more than Pure Phase
>On the topic of Spiritualized, I'm fucking hyped for the new album. June 16th will be a glorious day- both a new Spiritualized LP and OK Computer's anniversary
>Centipede Hz is secretly one of the best AnCo albums
>The Fall is better than Plastic Beach, and I don't understand why it's so widely hated

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>metal sucks for the most part and it's listeners are usually fedora lords.
>kendrick is decent but overrated as fuck and people think he's the second coming of god concerning hip hop that is.
>it's sad how some people here force themselves to like albums that just straight up sound like shit because of scene cred or whatever the equivalence is (ex. the shaggs).
>i don't know if TMR is actually good and it hasn't clicked, or it's actually shit like it sounds like and people just convince themselves it's good so they can feel patrician.
>half of the """popular""" acts on this board that get shit on for "selling out" or being "popular" aren't even really popular with "normal" people, but becuase so few of us interact with "normal" people, it seems to have lead to an echochamber that's out of touch with reality.
>i'd wager most of the hip hop haters are likely racists and the remainder just don't enjoy hip hop, but the latter are something i'd almost guarentee not the majority.
>People who use nu-male unironically have to have some strange idea that masculinity is only lisntening to edgy music, never expressing emotions outside anger, and having an extremely narrow minded musical taste.
>Phil's new album is pretty bad but most won't admit it, and those that do are get shit on endlessly whether they're memeing or not.
>lastly, i think i'm too fucking old for this board, i spend far to much time arguing/debating with people probably ten years younger than me because I have nothing else to do, and reddit has an even worse place to discuss music.

meme rap is all trash and should be confined to a general or banned outright.

>>71885155
>I'd wager most of the hip hop haters are racists
This is retarded.

>>71885155
how old are you?

>I wish I could kill all the memerap posters.
>shit sucks. Go listen to young thug, migos, or future.
>I don't like trap
>ITAOTS is a great album.
>The Beach Boys sucked ass.
>Pet Sounds is nothing special
>Love the MemeBoys posters though, last knight was hilarious
>808s and Heartbreaks only good songs were the singles
>Yeezus sucks donkey dick and was aging 6 months after its release
>MBDTF is good, not great
>Grimes sucks
>Frank Ocean is overrated af
>Channel Orange was fine but Blond is fucking terrible.
>you white kids need to listen to more old school gangster rap and R&B
Dr. Dre doesn't count.
>KPOP Generals get over 100 replies AT NIGHT Fucking virgins.
>St. Vincent is wildly underrated. Just a bunch of misogyny and sexism.
>St. Vincent threads need to stop though.
>Atrocity Exhibition is a mediocre album
>his voice is way too annoying on that album and you can't hear any potential memorable lines
>muh drugs
>muh I can't be a failure
>XXX is a classic though
>Kendrick Lamar has all the talent in the world
>yet he's still not great
>He needs to keep it simple his albums are bloated and corny
>stop switching up his voice
>King crimson is overrated
>ITCOTCK has only one good song "I Talk to the Wind"
>Death Grips suck and are and never were anything but a MEME
>Beatles are overrated
>some good songs though
>the white album is the epitomy of filler
>if you're racist or sexist have better arguments than nigger music, fat,whore, and sjw

>>71885426
Going by the outright racist contents of half the posts where people shit on the genre as a whole, I wouldn't say its that far from the truth. I did acknowledge that there certainly are people who just don't like hip hop as well you know. I could have worded the first part a bit better though.
>>71885515
30

>>71885714
I like you, Although I disagree with your view on the beatles (and especially the white album), beach boys, king crimson, and 808s, I respect your right to have those opinions and would still hang out with you.

>>71882189
:/

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> poptimism ruined /mu/
> 99% of rap is garbage for suburban white kids daydreaming about being hood
> /bleep/'s pretending to be chavs is cringey and almost as stupid as their music
> radiohead are mediocre at best
> /mu/'s fixation on hating things that are remotely masculine (metal, prog, classic rock, etc.) while getting incredibly bent-out-of-shape when someone calls them a nu-male is pathetic
> pitchfork was never good

>>71885155
> metal sucks
> people who hate on hip-hop must be racist
> masculinity is only ever expressing anger and being edgy

pic related. now go listen to Solange

>>71885813
>pic related. now go listen to Solange
I'm >>71885155 but I still found that pretty good. Also you pretty much proved my point about masculinity and people who use nu-male unironically as well.
> things that are remotely masculine (metal, prog, classic rock, etc.)
\m/ (>.<) \m/

>>71885900
I was going to type up a clever reply but then I realized I'm talking to a 30yo that still goes on /mu/ and that maybe that's like kicking a three-legged puppy

>>71885716
Everyone says nigger on 4chan anon

>>71885974
>>71885974
>I was going to type up a clever reply but then I realized I'm talking to a 30yo that still goes on /mu/
I get bored, don't feel like going through interviews on private trackers to discuss music, and sadly this seems to be a decent place (more in the past it seems, but I think nostalgia is blurring my vision) to discuss artists I enjoy and their releases, as well as new releases by other artists. If you know of anywhere better I can go, please let me know by all means. But I'm pretty sure you had no response to type up in the first place so you used that ad hominem in place of one.
>maybe that's like kicking a three-legged puppy
nah i love animals
>>71885992
it's easy to tell when it's being used in irony and when used seriously, and the posts I'm usually referring to are the ones where we all both know damn well they aren't using it ironically.

>>71886085
Yeah, fair enough. I still don't think it's the majority. A lot of people end up shitting on hip hop in general because they're sick of seeing trap shit and Kendrick Lamar constantly spammed.

>>71884904
why is tool so bad

>>71886133
>seeing trap shit and Kendrick Lamar constantly spammed
trap shit is fun to listen to. although I can imagine it's hard to get into for most people and I guess it gets spammed here, I don't notice it as much as I do grimesposts or things of that nature though, could just be me.

Kendrickspamming is annoying, that is something I can agree with you on for sure (well it's existence at least, not sure if you find it annoying as well).

Threads can be easily hidden though and even without that being said, it shouldn't cause blind hate for an entire genre without giving it any sort of a chance, when sonically it can range from a wide variety of sounds and styles.

>>71886232
>why is tool so bad
I can't say explicitely, but I know being sandwiched in a car while it was being hotboxed and listening to stoned college kids try to explain to me how Lateralus "changed their fucking life, man" because they dropped acid at bonnaroo earlier that summer, made me hate the fucking band and their lame ass fucking music. To me it just sounds like nu-metal met incubus, and neither of those are good things.

I gotta get this off my chest,kind of a life story,but music related.
As someone who grew up listening to jazz and classical music. I was never very exposed to rock or pop music.
When I turned 20(in 2010) I decided to listen to pop music,so I did the same I did to discover my favs of jazz and of classical:looked for critics.
I was shocked. 90% of rock music sucked,at least the ones that were on top of the charts. There was still great,really great music, but most of it(nirvana,beatles,queen etc.) was so boring and pointless.
But I did love one band:the doors,and so I decided to listen to literally every rock record ever since 1965. It took me 4 years but I did it,then I decided to write my top albums in order to see if they would all show up on google and I found Scaruffi's site.

Y'all plebs that are happy with plain boring music that does nothing for you don't get what this rock critic did. He is virtually the only respectable critic I know of when it comes to rock,pitchfork is a darn cancer,rolling stone and all other magazines are sell outs...
and it amazes me that some of you fags know of this site and hate it,you can't be more contrarian. you hate him because he challanges your ideas,that the band your dead dad loved is shit. Well it is. And no one who took the time to listen to music fairly and gave a chance to everything will ever take bands like Radiohead seriously.
you're all ungrateful retards.

>>71886409
but he gave all my favorite albums 8/10 or better
does this mean im not a pleb

>>71883550
Then what DO you like?

>>71886718
Classic rock

>>71886409
If i had the chance i would actually fucking murder you

>>71886745
>fuck the mainstream
>likes classic rock

Stupid

>>71886776
do you like the beatles that much? I know it hurts to admit that you dad didn't like good music.

>>71886862
What does "good music" mean to you?

>>71886409
How are The Doors a good band compared to The Beatles? They objectively had less talent and were less creative.

I don't really care about dadrock but having a basic knowledge of both bands I can easily tell The Beatles were better. I didn't have to spend 4 years listening to shit dadrock bands nobody gives a fuck about to figure that out.

>>71886745
Whats It like to have the same music taste as most middle aged men who listened to the pop of their time?

>>71886745
Classic rock is a horrible genre and the fact that older people regard it as "REAL music" is utterly laughable.

808's and Heartbreaks is near unlistenable
I can understand and appreciate the album as a concept and what Kanye was doing with it, but it was just bad to listen to

>>71882117
I've basically been living under a rock my entire life, I bare EVER listened to music until just a few months ago. I tried getting into /mu/core to get into music and for the most part I found a lot of stuff I liked, however, I just don't get Death Grips. To me, it just sounds so fucking awful. I honestly don't see how anyone can like this band

>>71882675
Thats cause metalheads lash out against any band that doesnt just copy those sounds

>>71886958
Start learning and instrument learn music theory, and listen to orchestral music I'd recommend. It's always a good place to start, It's how I was raised though, so I am bias
>>71886977
Not totally true, but I think I agree somewhat.

>>71886958
>I just don't get Death Grips

You're not supposed to. Only people with truly superior taste can "get" it. I don't see why so many people are surprised they don't like it. It's music for literal patricians.

>>71887019
>patricians.
Do you really take your tastes this seriously?

>>71887054
I imagine its' easy to not care about the quality of your taste when you know your taste is garbage.

>>71886913
you're not worth my time.
>>71886898
creative,thought-provoking,Masterfully crafted(not necessarily technically impressive),genuine.
if it helps you in any way: my favourite rock record either TMR,Desert Shore or Twin Infinitives.
My favourite Jazz record either Love Supreme,Nefertiti or Ezz-thetics

My favourite Classical composition is either Mahler's 2nd or Bach's Brandenburg Concertos o

sorry I can't do better,but it's hard to give terms to what makes music good. since it needs not to benefit any genre over another.

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I don't get the "Tycho is boring" meme. Dive is a great album. It's stupid to hear an entire album be dismissed because it's "boring" while they go back to listen to literally one electric guitar note for an hour, or something to that equivalent.

>>71886409
i bet you're fun at parties.

no one should be longer looked down upon for liking mucore and pretending to like obscure shit is fucking stupid. Jpop is the new ITAOTS and has been for the past 4 years and it has nothing to do with the music. Jpop/K-pop needs to be banned from discussion because it has nothing to do with music and is just softporn for preteens.

>>71887126
>spends 4 years listening to shit music
>can't explain why the doors are a good band

Very impressive

>>71887142
I bet you go to parties.

>>71887095
Lol, I've listened to far more music than you kid, tastes are subjective. I've talked to band members who are virtuoso and have very strange music tastes that love bands I dislike, and that hate bands I love. I love death grips, but if your attitude is "You dont like death grips lolololol philistine!! " You're a fucking faggot. John Cage didn't take his tastes very seriously but he enjoyed what he enjoyed.

>>71887160
go read about what influenced them,check those things out. see how it relates. If you don't get it,sorry you needed higher IQ

>>71887168
>Lol, I've listened to far more music than you kid
Neither of us could know how much music the other has heard and we don't know each others age. Great way to start your post smart guy.

>tastes are subjective
No shit. The quality of your taste isn't though.

>if your attitude is "You dont like death grips lolololol philistine!!

That's not at all what I said. I said it makes perfect sense that you don't "get" their music since only those with the purest of taste will be able to get into it.

"cringing" is not criticism, in fact it just makes me take anything you'd then say about an artist less seriously. it's like you're saying "i'm not gonna associate with this or give it any further thoughts or chances because it's uncool man, i'm so far above that"

>>71887251
>No shit. The quality of your taste isn't though.
Yes it is dumb ass, if some kid who only listens to lil uzi vert comes up to you and says "YO MAN YOU GOT GREAT TASTE"

Just because you surround yourself with people who reaffirm your beliefs doesn't stop the quality of tastes to be subjective.

>only those with the purest of taste will be able to get into it

Do you see why you're a faggot?

>>71887223
>go read about what influenced them

An artists influences don't directly correlate with their quality. You honestly think that's a fucking good point to make? I have to assume you're some music school dork if you think that shit is going to fly here.

If you can't explain why The Doors were a good band in your own fucking words then you're not worth my time, nor anyone elses here. May as well go to some niche jazz or classical board where you jerk each other off over your knowledge your favorite artists influences.

>>71887302
>try to make you feel better about not "getting" a certain artist
>anon overreacts
>gets offended
>better call him a faggot to prove muh superior taste!

Ok, whatever helps you sleep at night m8

>>71887360
First:if you couldn't read between the lines:I dont care about you.
Second:The doors is one band, I wouldnt have said that about most bands.
the doors would be very different if there were no Greek tragedies,no icarus complex.

>>71887399
Lol I'm not trying to push superior tastes I'm saying you can't call your tastes better than everyone elses because they don't like Death Grips. I already said I liked them so your first point doesnt make sense. You are the one who's like "Muh superior tastes" are you trolling? I'm the one fucking defending the idea of personal tastes, you're the one saying shit about objective tastes.

>Oh I cant really argue
>Better make him look like he's angry while I'm calm cool and collected and have the " purest of taste "

BTW If you say "purest taste" there aren't many people who won't think you're an asshat

>>71887448
>says i'm not worth his time
>continues responding to me
>totally doesn't care about me

I don't have to read in between the lines bub. If you really didn't care you woulda stopped responding, or just flat out ignored me.

And I see you still won't explain why The Doors are good. It's because they're not that good. Not compared to other bans from the era any way. Ooh they had some classical training and a jazz influence? How fucking unique. Doesn't change the fact that their music is dated as fuck with that shitty organ tone and an embarrassing pretentious drunk posing as a poet for the frontman.

At least The Beatles were honest and didn't pretend they were more than they were. They progressed a great deal for a Rock band in a short amount of time and they literally set the bar for popular music in the 60s and early 70s.

Hint: Jazz/Classical training means jack shit when you're in a Rock band. Your story of how you went about getting into Rock music is embarrassing and the way you treat music is embarrassing.

>>71882117
RAC is good.

>>71887511
>Oh I cant really argue

The only one arguing is you buddy. Like I said, I was just trying to make you feel better. You overreacted and started calling names. It's ok though, I forgive you.

Death Grips would want me to.

It seems like the only thing /mum/ cares about is how other people perceive them... even when they are anonymous.
Metal generals used to be the most honest and fruitful discussion on this board, and now they are just a contest to see who call things "nu-male" the most.

>muh patrician
>muh nu-male
>muh cuck

that's all most of you retards care about.

>>71887649
>i'm superior to everyone

You're the biggest stereotype of all

>>71887788

>free beer

not only a degenerate, but poor as well

Kendrick Lamar is a mediocre as fuck rapper.

>>71887167
went to one in the past month actually. got drunk off free beer, was fun, you should try it sometime.
>>71887551
But it's just bad oi/punk/hardcore punk about racial hatred? Unless you're in it for the ideology, none of it is good compared to the other stuff played in the same musical style.

>>71887810
I helped with the kegs, but I am a poor degenerate.

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>>71887301
"Cringe" is just an update of the word "fag"

It's a vacuous insult used to put people down for being somewhat socially inept as if that's supposed to nullify what they're saying

Anyone that actually uses that as a rebuttal probably uses everything as a projection of their insecurities and are just there to validate their ego rather than say anything valuable

>>71887699
Being annoyed by continuous shitposting is a stereotype now?

Jim morrison wasn't all that great, their lyrics are pretty decent, and their keyboard player is the only reason I like some of the doors material.

>>71887625
>It seems like the only thing /mum/ cares about is how other people perceive them... even when they are anonymous.

Aren't teenage mentalities great?
I mean, it's not like this is exclusive to /mu/. It's been like this for years. You either keep trying to ride the wave to find what you want, sink and become one with the wave, or return to shore and give up the ghost.

"Is searching for gold in a sea of shit worth it?" I've seen this site described as such quite a few times. We live it. Browsing through shitposts and hoping to find something worthwhile.

You find the gold. You're excited. You spend more time here and find more gold. This keeps up for a year. Maybe two. Maybe even more than that. Before you know it, you smell a foul stench. Congratulations! You may have found gold in the sea of shit, but you spent far too long within.

This whole thing sounds pretentious as fuck, though.

It comes down to what you want. I wanted discussion but I got fed up with the environment here. I tried other places but none panned out. I settled for mild apathy but it took me years to get to this point.

Keep riding this wave, anon. If what you seek can't be found in this sea of shit, it might be time to look for another sea of waste-of-choice. Whatever you do, I wish you the best.

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This is the best album ever made and anyone saying otherwise is full of shit

>>71888163
I say otherwise

>>71886409
>started looking for critics in 2010
>didn't discover scaruffi until 4 years later when you just happened to think typing your favorite albums would be effective
Sounds fake desu, and there's plenty more that makes this suspicious.

weezer is shit and so is essentially all of alternative rock/indie/metal/pop punk/ska punk

there has never been a good punk band that came out of the uk

rap is not inherently bad but it's going through a really awful indie transition right now

radiohead is overrated but not spammed too much anymore

no one here gives a shit about music, they just care enough to like the accessible shit that they're already comfortable with and they disagree with your unpopular opinion


jazz is one of the least discussed genres. why?

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>>71887625
Music is a particularly personable artform and it attracts people that use it as a way of expressing themselves.

You're right. A great percentage of people that post on /mu/ have little opinions or aspirations of their own and just use music as a platform to project their insecurities onto. Their opinions are entirely delimited by what they can use to look somewhat cool or interesting in the eyes of other people. Because your opinion always risks offending somebody this usually just amalgamates in sandblasting off all your personality and dicking around in ambiguity land all day without saying anything concrete that someone could deconstruct.

This is the term "nu-male" in a nutshell and it's mostly being used and abused by people to describe anyone with a beard and glasses. Same thing happened to hipster and people completely forgot why that term was fabricated.

>>71886409
dude yes. everyone hear is so insecure because they listen to shit music and when you challenge it they get mad that you don't like """"experimental"""""" indie folk rock album 873487607#

also christgau, pitchfork, fantano, all music are fucking garbage and you should form you're own opinion you boring drones

>>71888259
>most many genres of music are trash
>>71888332
Agreed

>>71882189
i don't like them either, but you have to at least admit that they had large influence, especially the beatles

>>71882189
I agree with you on Nirvana, and you're entitled to your opinion on the Beatles, just know it makes me very sad

>>71886232
They're offensively generic and the fans think it's more profound than it actually is. As a result people like to tear them down

They aren't really, is the answer. They're worth being made fun of but so is every other musical archetype that takes itself a bit too seriously

>>71882117
"Experimental" Hip Hop from the 2000's and 2010's is better than the stuff from the 1980's and 1990's. They're actually trying to make something musically interesting rather than "ha ha beat lemme do some rappin' over it nigga".
Kanye is the most overrated artist in the history of music since Roger Waters and the Pink Floyds.
Most of pop isn't trying to do anything interesting most of the time, poptism is fucking cancer.
This isn't a rant, but classical music is THE BEST music. I'm not saying there can't be pieces of popular music as good as classical compositions, but classical music is still the best.
Weezer are fucking terrible by the way, Pinkerton is just awful.
Noise is noise and that's all it can be by itself.

Aaron Bruno needs to drop Awolnation and reform UTIOG.

That's all I really care about.

Hip Hop is shit.
Electronic music is shit.

Before calling me close-minded, i have found couple of albums from both genres i like.

You guys spam Remain in Light too much. For every Remain in Light thread there should be one Cars debut album thread, Police Zenyatta Mondatta thread, and one Blondie Parallel Lines thread.

I love Pink Floyd. Every album.

The Indiana punk scene is hot fucking garbage. The Coneheads are nothing but a shitty devo cover band. Fuck Liquids.

>>71883559
>not also enjoying level3
c'mon now

>>71886326
Dude this shit happened to me about two months ago. Was hot boxing with a friend and a few of his friends. The other people were talking about how great TOOL was and how amazing the lyrics were and hoe experimental they were. My friend and I looked at each other perplexed because they sounded like shit to us.

Geoggadi is actually horribly unsettling if you listen to it in the right environment. Listen to it in the dead of night, all alone in your room, focusing on nothing but the music and every tiny detail and hidden embedded word. It's freaky, makes me feel like I'm being watched, and makes me feel like I am afraid of the things I feared as a young kid again

>>71883050
>Czechoslovakian Lawn Mowing forum
I fucking love this meme

I wish Boards of Canada never got so popular. You guys can have Aphex Twin for all I care though.

>>71884242
>>71884463
I agree with all of this

I don't listen to enough Hip Hop to know if I'm a misguided edgemaster or not, but I think a majority of what I've heard, even from critically acclaimed albums, sound poor instrumentally. The obsession with making sick beats in hip hop culture is comical, because they all sound the same, they're all so simplistic, there's very little forward thinking instrumental hip hop. Not to say it doesn't exist of course, it does, I've heard it.

But the majority sounds like trite garbage. The fact that so many of the artists have to rely on samples as a crutch for their terrible production is a pretty telling sign, I mean how often are the samples the best part of the instrumental? Way too often.

The Beatles and Kendrick are shit

>>71886085
It's okay Anon. I've been on 4chan for eleven years now and I can't leave either. I have a wife,a kid soon and a job, if that makes it any better. This place has just always kind of been home though

>>71890883
Yeah I think I do too, minus one or two points

>>71890898
Rappers pretty much don't have passion for anything besides rap. Plenty of rappers will pretend to like jazz and funk but they can't and don't compose music that (much less music like that which is good) without outside help. Not that they care, which is my point. Every other genre contains people who incorporated their passion for other genres into it, including, funnily enough, other genres with rap (on occasion) but never the other way around other than in a superficial way (ie backing track that's just a looped version of another genre). So as long as its like that it will stagnate.

>>71890950
Does your wife know you post here? Just curious. I have a feeling getting married wouldn't stop me from still posting here.

I've become really sad lately but my music has gotten happier in general. Two years when i was having a happier time in my life i was listening to shit like the unhappy bus and some second tier introspective hip hop bullshit, but thats probably when i was the happiest i had been in quite a while. Right now i seem to really be enjoying sweet trip, les rallizes and early anco, which by comparison is much happier than the other bullshit and much more cheery. but lately i feel horrible, i feel like a prequel to a terrible person and i have been trying my hardest to improve but i dont think i can reach happiness.

And on another note, i hate talking to people about music even though i love music so much; everyone else who is "interested in music" listens to all the garbage tumblrcore shit like 21 pilots and bring me the horizon. Im currently the drummer for my band which is just a couple mates fucking around but its so hard because all they want to do is play post-hardcore and fucking nu-metal, and i come off as some pretentious ass hipster when i recommend we play something from joy division or any other easy-to-learn band. im not really enjoying life at the moment, but im putting the effort in to try and fix that, hopefully things work out for me in the long run.

sorry about the long post i feel i need to vent

>>71883458
such an underrated film desu

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I just wanna find good music but the entire board is shit posting

Andy Warhol is the only reason why The Velvet Unerground became so influential. TVU has never made anything that wasn't made earlier and better by The Sonics or The Monks

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this entire album

is a fucking masterpiece

and nobody knows about it

HIP HOP IS A PRETTY OKAY GENRE WHATEVER /MU/ SAYS

i hate everyone and I need a job

>If you think an entire genre is shit you're already terminally retarded
>people who use terms like "memerap" and "dadrock" just use them to say "something I don't like"

>>71888482
>tool
>generic
now i've heard it all

> Genres serve no purpose in quantifying quality, "objective" or not
> No one gives a fuck what you like, stop acting like you are the last bastion of culture
> Taste is a meme
> /mu/ is the most buzzword-heavy

I hate that people shit on King Gizzard. They're just a great fucking psych/kraut jam band that release consistently good albums very frequently. On top of that, they're all super cool dudes who put on insane live shows

I really like Beware the Friendly Stranger and everyone calls me a fag for it. The riff is really haunting. Has no relation to the meme