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I know you fucks can't ever discuss anything without memes

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I know you fucks can't ever discuss anything without memes but is he top 3 of all time?
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>>71868676
yes
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Rapfags destroyed this board DESU
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Not even top 10.
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>>71868676
His literally the greatest rapper of all time.

Most consistent artist this decade
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>>71868729
Then give your top ten
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>>71868676
If his next album is TPAB or even GKMC par then he is
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>>71868992

If his next album is in any way similar to TPAB than he's a fraud. Making 'intellectual afro-centric jazz-rap' is the equivalent of Oscar bait. Kanye cemented his GOAT status when he followed up MBDTF with Yeezus. Unprecedented genius in hip-hop.
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>>71868965
>His literally the greatest rapper of all time.
not even that great of a storyteller, his internal rhyme scheme is moderately good his wordplay is phenomenal though he really has a poetic sense in his lyrics most rappers forget to have.

He's not the "GOAT" but he's definitely up there with the greats already, hell he's already released an album on par with illmatic
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If next album is TPAB or GKMC quality he is easily the best ever
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>>71869031
people dont see kanye as top 10 and that needs to stop
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>>71869031
Yeezus was a boring death grips ripoff except for bound 2 senpai
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>>71869031

>If his next album is in any way similar to TPAB than he's a fraud
I'm pretty sure it won't be. K Dot tends to not stick with one subject for too long. Hopefully we'll be getting something fresh on the new project.

ps: I heard somewhere that one of the producers on the album said the new album has a Memphis feel to it I think?
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Not top three but yeah he's really good.
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>>71868975
2
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>>71869031
I don't think I agree with that. Between Section 80, GKMC and TPAB he's released a lot of good content. Even if his next album is more of the same and not really anything new, I don't think that makes him a fraud at all. Also, Kendrick is always going to rap about afro-centricism. That's his thing.
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Memes and contrarianism aside, he is the best rapper of the 2010s in terms of influence and critical acclaim, and a top 5 post-90s rapper in every aspect

I personally didn't love TPAB, but it's going to be looked back on as the best hip-hop album of this decade, along with MBDTF.

Is he a top 3 artist of all time? Absolutely not. Top 10? No. Top 100? Maybe.
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>>71869064

In terms of technicality? No. When it comes to albums he's easily in the top 3. Game changing albums that are all enjoyable for different reasons. He's the only renaissance man in hip-hop. Only Outkast comes close to his output and even they had some duds in their discography.
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Since Biggy and Tupac died no one is ever going to say anyone is better than them. personally i think J-Cole and Kendrick are already better than them
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>>71869113
>In terms of technicality? No. When it comes to albums he's easily in the top 3
also influence, which should be something to be considered
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>>71869151

Tupac never had a classic album under his belt. He became an icon for different reasons.
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>>71869177
>Tupac never had a classic album under his belt
7 day theory or all eyez on me beg to disagree
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>>71869113
>When it comes to albums he's easily in the top 3
>One almost guaranteed classic, one arguable classic, and one good but not near classic album
>Versus someone like Jay Z or Kanye West, both with at least three universally agreed-upon hip-hop classics
I like Kendrick, but you don't know what you're talking about.
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>>71869223

Nope, he doesn't have a classic album, sorry.

>>71869224

I was talking about Kanye.
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>>71869224
My bad, anon. I agree
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>>71869290
Meant to reply to >>71869270
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>>71869177
>Tupac never had a classic album under his belt
imagine being that delusional
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>>71869327

He sold a shitload but never had a classic.
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>>71869340
All Eyez on Me and Me Against The World are both considered classics by most hip-hop heads
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If Kendrick was shot dead he'd be proclaimed an icon bigger than 2pac or even Paul McCartney.
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>>71869376

You're wrong, sorry. Really popular and good albums but not classics. A classic is something like Ready to Die or The Infamous.
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>>71869416
>It's not quite as popular or widely regarded as some other albums in the genre, so it's not a classic
Nope, a lot of people still consider them classics
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>>71869529

Tupac himself is an icon but he never had a classic album. I don't know who those 'lots of people' are. Tupac was never known for his albums.
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>>71869574
Go on to any hip-hop forum that isn't pretentious as /mu/ and present your same argument, plenty of people will disagree with you

You're right, he wasn't known for his albums, but a lot of people in the genre still consider the two I listed to be classic and that's that
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it all depends on his next album. for now he's in the top 10 for sure but not top 5 yet
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>>71869602

No Tupac album is on the same level as Enter the Wu-Tang, Illmatic, Ready to Die, Aquemini etc. you know, the actual classic hip-hop albums of the 90s. You're delusional if you think otherwise.
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>>71869416
>Ready to Die is a classic
>but not All Eyez on Me
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>>71868965
??????
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>>71869075
ok melon
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>>71869653
There's some subjectivity as to what makes an album "classic."

Like I said earlier, listing the most universally regarded albums from a genre's golden age does not mean that everything below that tier isn't a classic.

It's like saying that the only true classic rock albums are Sgt. Peppers, The Dark Side of The Moon, and Pet Sounds.
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definitely in this generation he is a top contender but of all time? not just yet friendo
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>>71868968

No order:

Mos Def
Biggie
Nas
2pac
CL Smooth
Rakim
Phife Dawg
Q-Tip
Andre 3000
Jay Z (up to The Black Album)
Dr. Dre
Snoop Dogg in the 90s

Should I just keep going?
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>>71869574
are you retarded
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>>71869776
>2pac
>CL Smooth
>Dr. Dre
>Snoop Dogg in the 90s
Nope

The rest of your list was good though
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>>71869776

>Dr. Dre
>better rapper than Kendrick

I hope you're joking.
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>>71869776
Snoop has never been good I'm sorry dude like never. He has his fame for being an iconic character next to Dr. Dre
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>>71868676
Why is literally every other rapper so completely goddamn whack? Scrubs, the lot of them.
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>>71869819
Not him but

Rap Ability =/= Rap Album Quality

Nas and 90s Jay-Z could rap circles around Kendrick but Kendrick has the better albums.
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>>71869845
big Ls so damn overrated
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>>71869812
i am a HUGE fan of ATCQ and i do not think they belong above 2pac individually
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If he makes another album that's similar to tpab then I think he cemented his throne as the greatest rapper to date.

He makes these albums that's not only soothing to the ears but meaningful and can bring out emotions that many people in his culture feel.
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>>71869742

>There's some subjectivity as to what makes an album "classic."

Not really. Most people can agree on classic albums, albums that are untouchable, creative high-marks in the genre. Tupac doesn't have that. He has good, enjoyable albums but not classics. Cypress Hill's debut album for example is pretty good and enjoyable but only the most die-hard fan would call it a classic. There are good albums and then there are undeniable classics like Illmatic or Enter the Wu-Tang.
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>>71869812

I can understand you trying to look cool by dissing the other 3 but if you don't believe CL Smooth is better than Kendrick then I can't believe you've listened to any of his music.
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>>71869890

Are you of Caucasian genetics, my brother?
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>>71869890
i wish his voice was a little more bearable. its like the annoying kind of raspy that turns me off to him
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>>71869884
That is incorrect
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> this thread
> no mention of kool keith
wew
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>>71869845
If he didn't have shit tier production he'd definitely be among the greats
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>>71869031
This. Except he was already revealed to be a fraud when the jazz musicians on TPAB said that Kendrick hadn't even heard a Miles Davis record before the TPAB recording sessions. He was making a typical rap album and then all these musicians got in the studio with him and cooked up these jazz/funk instrumentals for him to rap over and he ran with it. He's just as musically illiterate and derivative as most rappers and everyone will see that on his next album if it's the "banger" heavy album it's purported to be.
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>>71869912
Never said he was better than Kendrick. He's pretty great, but I wouldn't put him in my top ten.
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12345
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>>71869950
>That is incorrect
he's alright but all these dudes who just discovered "underground" rap hail him as some king like mainstream fans do with tupac, truth is he has one 7/10 album and his second album isn't even that good.
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>>71868676
All time? Not even close.

GOAT List (leaked)

1. Tupac Shakur
2. Nas
3. Biggie Smalls
4. Drake
5. Jay Z
6. Big Pun
7. Eminem
8. Rakim
9. Lil Wayne
10. Big L

honoble mentions:

LL Cool J, Lil B, Kendrick, Snoop Dogg, Skepta
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>>71869966

Tracks like 'Momma' still make me think that he's one of the best rappers of all time. From a pure technical standpoint Kendrick is easily top 3.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS64Mz-Z_7I
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>>71869989
dude i have no idea how you could possibly ever think lil wayne is better than kendrick lamar. kendrick is miles ahead conceptually at his worst than lil wayne is at his absolute best
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>>71869989
light yourself on fire
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>>71869989
>Lil Wayne
He's good and very influential but not anywhere near the top 10

>Eminem
Opinion discarded
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>>71869989
Where's kanye?
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>>71869989

>le trolling trip guy man

Really getting tired of your shit.
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>>71869928
I am not my friend. I am as mixed as can be with some white Arab Indonesian you name it
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>>71869989
>4. Drake
Drake
>4
In what fucking world do you live in
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>>71869989
>lists the most overrated rapper of all time as number 1
Also Drake is barely a fucking rapper, what is this list even based off?
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>>71869903
If the majority of dedicated fans in a genre consider an album a classic, it's a classic. Which is the case for at least All Eyez on Me.

There are only so many albums that get classic status beyond their genre, and you already listed them: for hip-hop it's Illmatic, Ready to Die, Enter the Wu-Tang, Straight Outta Compton, It Takes a Nation, etc.

Does that mean those are all the classics in that genre? Hell no.

I'm basically repeating myself here. You're wrong.
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TOP 5

1. Eminem
2. Marshall Mathers
3. Slim Shady
4. B-Rabbit
5. The whit guy from D-12
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>>71869989
Legit loled

>>71870016
>>71870021
>>71870026
>>71870048
>>71870050
If any of you unironically took that b8, kill yourselves.
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>>71870084
Shut the fuck up.

REAL TOP 5

1. Kendrick
2. K Dot
3. The son of the man who wanted his dominos
4 The good kid in the maad city
5.The short dude in Black Hippy
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>>71870084
wow that list is great i think i see it copy pasted on every eminem video on youtube ever
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Half of Wu Tang is better than him
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>>71869833
you're a fool. snoop dogg is a legend for a reason, doggystyle the best west coast album ever made
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>ctrl + f GZA
>no results
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>>71869982
I AM THE GREATEST RAPPER ALIVE
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>>71870072

>If the majority of dedicated fans in a genre consider an album a classic, it's a classic. Which is the case for at least All Eyez on Me.

Sorry to disappoint you but that's not the case and I'm only talking about 90s hip-hop, not all time. Tupac doesn't have a classic album, he has classic songs though. You brought up the 'opinion of internet hip-hop forums' earlier so might I present you this:

https://rateyourmusic.com/customchart?page=1&chart_type=top&type=album&year=1990s&genre_include=1&include_child_genres=1&genres=hip+hop&include_child_genres_chk=1&include=both&origin_countries=&limit=none&countries=

Tupac starts showing up at 57.
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>>71868676
da best, homie
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>>71870146
>not RZA
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>>71870050
>>71870048
>>71870089

Yall envious

>>71870029

I'm not trolling. Yall triggered and embarrassed.

Rap beefs wins, critical acclaim and commercial success the criteria.

Nas? GOAT. Tupac? GOAT. Lil Wayne? GOAT. Drake? GOAT.

Drake is a great rapper too you just brainwashed cause the hater hivemind
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>>71870110
6. The man who fucked Sherane and went to tell his bros
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>>71870146
Just because his use of variaility of words like Aesope Rock?

The legendary Prime Lil Wayne absolute kills GZA.
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>>71870163
>He uses RYM as evidence
Wew lad

If you're talking about 90s hip-hop, it might get overlooked because it was the genre's golden age, and because there were admittedly better albums there.

Lots of extensive essential lists online include All Eyez On Me. It's a classic, dude. Not THE classic, but a classic. I don't even like Tupac that much.
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>>71870176
im not sure what you are saying

still cannot tell if this is just bait.

if it is, how pathetic do you have to be to get a kick out of it
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>>71870187
7. The biggest hypocrite of 2015
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>>71870176
>Rap beefs wins, critical acclaim and commercial success the criteria.
I know you're trolling, but it's unironically not a bad list in that case. Missing Kanye tho
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>>71870208
idk about that. gza lyrics go a little deeper than
>"See I get it from Sosa, he got it from Frank / And Sosa alright, but I'm trying to meet Frank."
like wtf is weezy retarded
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ACTUAL GOATS NO ORDER

>MF DOOM
>nas
>kanye
>jay z
>tupac
>ghostface
>qtip
>rakim
>ice cube
>kool g rap
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>>71870252
people that call DOOM mf still arent actual DOOM fans
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>>71870252
>MF DOOM
>ice cube
You were so close, too.
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>>71870248
how does a weezy lyric go over your head this hard, he's not trying to see his dealer he's wants to meet the supplier and probably establish connections, this could also be a reference to scarface
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>>71870170
rza is top ten producers but gza is a better rapper
>fukken derikulous
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>>71870016
Lol you're a ignorant fan boy at this point just like these ones who desperately calimmed that Future "HNDRXX" was a classic

You're deluded by recently hipster sites positive reaction to Kendrick albums thats why you overrates him so much but not really anything different.

Kendrick even COPIED Lil Wayne flows in his begginning on the mixtape C4. Hes clearly influenced by him, Lil Wayne at his best was GOAT. He is superior.
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>>71870270
>>MF DOOM
ill justify his case
>madvillainy
>mmm...food
>operation doomsday
>born like this
>vaudeville villain
>the mouse and the mask

ice cube has immense influence and is of great importance in hip hop since he wrote most of the lyrics in NWA so he quite literally jet started the gangsta rap era with his lyrics
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>>71870214

What's wrong? All the highly rated hip-hop albums on that site are also highly rated by more conventional publications and critics. You were the one that brought up 'hip-hop forums'.

>It's a classic, dude. Not THE classic, but a classic.

Didn't you say earlier two Tupac albums were classic and now it's only one? Sorry he has not a single classic album. For the last time, he wasn't known for his albums he was more of a cultural icon. If you condense the classic hip-hop albums of the 90s to 20-30 albums, Tupac doesn't have a chance of showing up. Any more albums and you might as well not use the word classic anymore. A classic album implies significance, importance and there's only a limited number of them, otherwise the term is meaningless.
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>>71870266
who the fuck cares, whatever makes you feel superior on 4chan dude
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this entire thread is bait
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My unironic top 10 in no particular order, in terms of influence to skill ratio:

>Jay-Z
>Kanye
>Mos Def
>Rakim
>Andre 3000
>Biggie
>Eminem
>Scarface
>Mos Def
>Black Thought
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>>71870026
lol, you're edge, you got memed to think that Eminem being white descredit his output of great rap songs and his background story of rap battles and hardcore hip hop, lol, lol

Eminem have 4 classics, respect, hes white, yep, and?


>>71870027

Wheres Kanye? Wheres Rhymefest? Wheres Consequence? Kidding.

Kanye producer skills overshadows 'his' rapping output plus hes more like of Dr. Dre or Dj Khaled than Jay Z.

Never the rapping/lyricism was the most gloriefed highlight of his albums, but THE PRODUCTION
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>>71870270
Ice cube is way better than most of the rappers in this thread. Kys
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>>71870372
filtered

this unfunny bait isnt even worth wasting time on
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>>71870237
Not trolling really. But this theme excites people most because rap purists mad against pop rappers.

Kanye, you know its hard, he needs to come together and proves hes a great rapper on some 'Old Kanye'. IMO

>>71870215
common son

kust because Americans elected Trump everything is trolling now?
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>>71870248
The profanity and vanity of Wayne lyrics is exactly the most interesting thing
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how have we not brought up lil yachty
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>>71870425
Lol everything is bait now just because some political marketing guys grouped on the internet and organized a fascist insurgence?

for real Kanye never had real beefs, hes keep ethering himself on some Kardhasian-Trump shit
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Top 9 according to the best selling rapper of all time:

Reggie
Jay Z
Tupac
Biggie
Andre
Kurupt
Nas
Eminem
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>>71870519

>no Drake

yeah right.
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>>71870527
this

>>71870519
kill yourself vro
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>I don't give a fuck if you black, white, asian, Hispanic god dammit that don't mean shit to me, fuck your ethnicity
To
> FUCK WHITE PEOPLE
what did he mean by this?
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>>71870622

He got triggered by Trump.
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>>71870270
>he doesn't rate DOOM
>the rappers on his list of "best rappers" rate DOOM
fuck off man
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>>71868965
>
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I'll give him top 30 out of all A-list celebrity musicians. With emphasis on the celebrity part.
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>>71869776
Shit taste. Listen to some Plan B.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQjh9H-ymK4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZixLBSqIlnY
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>>71869045
You forgot perhaps the most impressive aspect of his rapping which is the cadences, as in varied and well timed syllable patterns, similar to Eminem.

MF Doom is of in the conversation for greatest ever, but it can be too heady but that's it's strength too. Earl is in this camp too and he could prove to be a contender.


But really the greatest rapper of all time is probably one of the old school guys like Big L
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>>71869966
How though? Kendrick has had jazzy shit since Overly Dedicated.
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>>71868676
We'll find out next week, my dude.
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>>71869092
3
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>>71870216
8. Cornrow Kenny
9. King Kendrick
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>>71873013
>MF Doom is of in the conversation for greatest ever
Not even close. He has a few rabid fans, usually young white hipsters, the likes of which shitpost here.
Don't get me wrong I like Doom, but greatest ever? Nigga u dum
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My top 10

1. Drake
2. Lil Wayne
3. Big Moe
4. Kendrick
5. Young Thug
6. Kanye West
7. Chief Keef
8. Pimp C
9. Dean Blunt
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>>71873142
4
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>>71869776
>Dr. Dre
Have you ever actually listened to any of his shit? He's terrible.
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>>71868676
hes remarkable
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>>71875142
5
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>>71875033
Forgot to add 10

10. Future
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>>71875195
I
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>>71868965
you're getting shit on but you're right. has yet to drop anything worse than a 7.5/10 for 6 years
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>>71868676
>he top 3 of all time
not as of yet, he may eventually reach this level, but his releases so far are are far from putting him at that tier.
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>>71870372
>Never the rapping/lyricism was the most gloriefed highlight of his albums
I don't know dude. MBDTF has some great lyricism.
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>>71868676
It's actually quite outstanding how much better he is then literally everyone else, even more surprising to think that someone like him exist in the mainstream.
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>>71869966
>when the jazz musicians on TPAB said that Kendrick hadn't even heard a Miles Davis record before the TPAB recording sessions.
Kendrick comments on this in an interview, he puts credit towards the jazz funk being a part of his heritage and how it felt natural to ride with this.
Just because you don't know who an artist is doesn't mean that the sound has no place in your body, bruh.
In high-school all I listened to was heavy metal and shit, as I grew up I realized new feels and funks. I imagine Kendrick did the same, and he just gravitated towards the jazz sound when he realised how effortlessly he rhymed over the beats.
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>>71875355
AM
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>all of these white boys discussing hip hop

baka desu senpai

I'm the only person here qualified to discuss and critique Kendrick, hip hop, etc. And I say that he's still too early in his career to be considered the "best". He's done very well so far, but he still has an entire career ahead of him.
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>>71875921
But there are artists out there with 1 critically acclaimed album and are considered the best in their genre.
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>>71869776
this is the cringiest "muh old school" list ever

stop being a nostalgic cuck, old =/= best
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>>71875944
Have they ended their career after just 1 album? Has it been years since their last album released?

If not, then the people who consider these artists the "best in their genre" are just being contrarian.
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>>71875921
nope. Kendrick has four albums now and 3 of them are all better than both of Biggies albums and every single 2Pac and Eminem project ever.

he's already top 5 of all time, he's the most consistent artist since Kanye in the genre, and he is currently on pace to probably take the crown of best ever
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>>71875965
> Biggie
> Big L
> Big Pun
lol you're clueless
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>>71875973
That's just wrong.

>>71875985
>Big L
>Big Pun

Literally who.
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Anyone that doesn't have 3 Stacks in their Top 3 just shouldn't bother posting.
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>>71876001
you don't know who those people are and yet you actually think you have an opinion?

this is actually fucking pathetic lol
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>>71876001
He said "1 critically acclaimed album". We all know he's talking about Ready to Die. To pretend otherwise is just embarrassing.
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>>71876001
Born Again is a fucking posthumous album assembled by Diddy to rake in cash

if you didn't know that you're an absolute fucking retard. Biggie has TWO albums and some think he's the GOAT
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>>71876033
Stop being a contrarian.

>>71876038
Don't be stupid, Life After Death is his best album, Ready to Die is his second best.

>>71876051
That's still more than one, and he'd have made more if he wasn't killed. He didn't end his career on his own terms.
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>>71876063
So Kendrick needs to die to be considered the best?
You have whack logic, get the fuck out. Eminiem, even thought I disagree as well as many others here, is widely considered one of the best rappers ever, neither is he dead, or had as many consistent record releases than Kendrick.

Face it. Kendrick is one of the greatest already. People aren't considered the greatest by your shit logic.
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>>71876123
That's not what I said, retard. I'm saying he's still too early in his career to be considered the best. If he were to die tomorrow, then his last album will have been TPAB, or his next album if it's released posthumously. At that point we can know whether he's one of the greatest or not, because we'll know for sure that he won't release any more albums that may or may not ruin his reputation as a great rapper.
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>>71876162
So he needs to have more than 3 studio albums and to die before he releases a bad album before he can be called the greatest? Still shit logic, mate.
Tupac never released 2 classics in a row.
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>>71876025
This.
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>>71876189
How fucking stupid can you be jesus christ.

I'm saying HE'S STILL TOO EARLY IN HIS CAREER. He has THREE ALBUMS RELEASED. T H R E E. Do you get the fucking point? Once he's released a comparable amount of albums, then at that point we can begin to rank him among the greats.

Dr. Dre only has three albums, and his third and last album wasn't nearly as good as his first two. But he ended his career as an artist after Compton, and he's still considered among one of the greats because of his first two albums.

And I don't know what the fuck you're talking about, clearly there's two-three classics in a row right here.
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>>71868676
>top 3
krs-one
rakim
mos def
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No order:

Kendrick
Kanye
Andre3k
Pac
Biggie
Cube
DOOM
Q-Tip
Rakim
Danny Brown
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>>71876264
>Once he's released a comparable amount of albums, then at that point we can begin to rank him among the greats.
>there is a numerical value to being the greatest

>But he ended his career as an artist after Compton, and he's still considered among one of the greats because of his first two albums.
By that logic Kendrick can be considered the greatest because of TPAB and GKMC despite how well the next album does.

>clearly there's two-three classics in a row right here.
>All Eyez On Me
>The Don
The only classic I see is Me Against The World and some of the songs from All Eyez on Me. The Don was an average 7/10 and All Eyez on Me was twice as long as Me Against The World and half as good.

You don't know what you are talking about dude.
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literally the j cole of our generation
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>>71876001
This is just beating a dead horse . /mu/ is way beyond the point of no return . Last time i come here .

To anyone that lurks and actually here for the music go to
>cos
>stereogum
>albumoftheyear.org
>rym
>tiny mix tapes
>allaboutjazz
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>>71868722
MUH guitars
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>>71875910
THE
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The one thing I hate in hop-hop is how much fans dick suck old rappers/albums. Unless Kendrick's next album is fucking AWFUL, then he will go down as one of the best rappers of all time and you're delusional if you don't think so.
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>>71876432
GREATEST
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>>71876551
RAPER
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>>71876264
>>71876162
>>71876063
>>71876001
>>71875965
>>71875921
literally the worst hip-hop takes I've ever seen in my fucking life. stop posting and grow the fuck up
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>>71876598
D E A D
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>>71873716

>usually young white hipsters

shut the fuck up, plenty of black people like DOOM. the "all of DOOM's fans are white" thing is just a meme.

>>71869776

>Mos Def
>Jay-Z
>Dr. Dre
>Snoop Dogg

>better than Kendrick

not even close. Tupac is pretty overrated as well, and while I definitely love Phife Dawg and Q-Tip, I don't think they are top 10 material.

and before you call me out, here is my top 10 (note: this is based on both how well of a rapper/lyricist I think they are, and how consistent/impressive their discography is. so even though Nas really only has one masterpiece album, I find him amazing enough as a rapper in general to put him higher than other rappers with better discographies):

1. Rakim (he's number 1 because not only is he arguably the greatest rapper ever in terms of flow, him and Eric B. were also arguably the most influential hip-hip act ever in terms of how the genre ended up evolving lyrically after the 80s. yes I know there were influential artists before them but Paid In Full was the album where hip-hop truly became art IMO)
2. GZA (Liquid Swords is my all-time favorite hip-hop album so he has to be here)
3. Nas (Nas flow is just amazing, I always say he literally flows like water and even on his weaker albums his storytelling can be amazing. The Lost Tapes in particular is super underrated)
4. MF DOOM
5. Kool Keith
6. Andre 3000
7. El-P (inb4 reddit memery)
8. Biggie
9. Kanye
10. Eminem (yes he fell off hard but MMLP1 and SSLP are undeniable classics and only /mu/ contrarians would disagree with that)
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XXXTENTACION unironically
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>>71876880
Kill yourself unironically
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>>71868676
Actual top 3
Andre 3000
MF Doom
Eminem
>inb4 hurdur eminem, opinion discard
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