when was the last time you listened to music without considering

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>>71864347
>when was the last time you listened to music without considering the utility of it?

>>71864416
exactly. anyone wanna unpack how retarded this question is?

>>71864485
It's to do with people who dislike the idea that art can be its own justification and think that all cultural products must serve a social/political purpose

which is bullshit of course

>>71864563
well art being its own justification is still a social purpose

>>71864607
"It's important for people to express themselves" is not what it's meant by "art must serve a social function"

>>71864654
>"It's important for people to express themselves"
you're saying that "It's important for people to express themselves" doesn't equate to art needing to serve a social function? I agree that art doesn't need to serve a popular social function, but I don't believe art is capable of completely escaping social purpose

>>71864654
>"It's important for people to express themselves"
pure ideology

can art escape social function completely?

>>71864347
usually i dont think about that at all
all music has the same hidden revolutionary potential anyways - which is 0

>>71865245
>usually i dont think about that at all
but you not thinking about it directly doesn't mean you're not doing it. do you listen to music you enjoy? then that's serving a purpose in giving you enjoyment. even listening to music you dislike serves as utility in aiding you in finding music you do like

>>71865287
alright so you're just gonna stretch this so far that what you said in the op is made literally impossible?

>>71864347

A couple of months ago. I stopped listening to music for aesthetics and started listening to music for culture and motivation.

>>71865689
I think it is impossible. This question was asked to me by someone else, I just wanted to share it and get some thoughts.

>>71865734
>I stopped listening to music for aesthetics and started listening to music for culture and motivation.
surely aesthetics are an aspect of the music you enjoy for culture and motivation, no?

>>71864563
Some people who frequent here don't think so. Music that used to be posted quite a bit on /mu/ has been regularly attacked in threads because of its political implications.

t. Jordaan Mason, Phil Ochs, Defiance Ohio

>>71866116
yeah, everything has a reason behind it i guess

>>71866155
Depends on how you look at it.

What I mean is that while I may have a visceral enjoyment of the music that I listen to, I am no longer listening to music that I used to listen to mainly under the idea that it was good art.

>>71866249
its ok to admit you have no idea

>>71866272
What do you mean?

>>71864764
My point was that with such a lax definition then anything can be serving a social purpose. We're talking more about "music should only exist to further communist propaganda" levels of utilitarianism.
>>71864799
That reply makes no sense