is it true that you have to count in your head when you

>>71830579
no

>>71830579
No

no but it often helps you keep time

>>71830579
No.

>>71830588
>>71830597
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>>71830598

Don't listen to these trolls OP. You do have to count.

Sometimes you can lose your place in the hundreds though in which case its ok to start again from zero.

>>71830579

Usually only when learning a part or if it just has a lot of rough time changes. It's usually enough to just tap your foot though since you should mostly be using the count to anchor syncopated hits anyway, the numbers themselves rarely matter.

If someone never counts at all they probably have terrible rhythm.

>>71830579
what do you think those niggas that played on cigar box guitars knew how to count?

For me its a must or I get really lost but I don't sing and play

ITT: people that have never played with a drummer worth anything

protip- no rock band is worth anything without a solid groove section

>>71830579
personally, when you're learning a song, especially in sheet music, you have to have the thought of rhythm in your head, that is all. the more you practice the song, the more it comes naturally

>>71832947
? gigged with a jazz trio, great drummer. you don't usually have to count in your head, doesn't mean the "groove section" dont matter (i'm the keyboardist)

>>71832967
then we're in agreement. if you have to count in your head your drums/bass are probably shit

>>71833048

I'd actually spin that another way, if you can perfectly hear the meter in your drummer and bassist at all times then they're probably not very exciting and it's a red flag that your music sucks.

>>71833362
>the average Tool fan actually thinks this

>>71830579
You have to be aware of where you are in the beat, but you don't always have to count it in your head. In fact I really only have to when I'm learning something.

If you're playing solo or in a style of music where pulse/beat isn't apparent and you play a sustained note, you'll generally need to count each individual beat. It's much harder to feel the beats of something that sustained compared to something that's more rhythmically active.