Conservatism is the new Punk rock. Deal with it http://www.

That's nice, honey.

>>71828169
Watch the video you tard. It's fake news

*derails ur shitty thread with sick digits*

>>71828332
nice try faggot

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>>71828169
one vapid ideology for shitty whites is the new vapid ideology for shitty whites? y'know, i 100% unironically agree with you.

this is a fascinating development.

>conservatism
>punk

lol fuck off

>>71828169

When everybody is covered in tattoos, has tits and a penis, and is fucking each other in the ass, the only way to rebel is to be settle down with a nice white girl and make 8 or 9 white babies.

>>71828169

you gotta admit, he looks pretty cool in this picture

>>71828471
>>71828413
>>71828332
>>71828321
the tolerant left strikes again

>>71828624
the tolerant right never existed, again

>>71828624

oh man we gotta watch out for the left hurting your feelings man

so intolerant wow
how evil

>>71828483
kys if you actually think those people are the norm and not plastic middle class Chad and Stacy christian normies

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>>71828169
Politics aside (I still hate politics) he's pretty handsome actually.

But anyway fuck the politics Herbie time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEnUZsWfe1c

>>71828471

punk has always been a reaction to post modernism, liberal wars, and the decay of society

I know it's thrown around as a meme a lot on 4chan, but I genuinely think that PJW has a real deal case of autism.

>>71828665

the real punk nowadays would oppose both left and right wing

seeing as how much a shit show they have both become

>>71828169
this guy's videos are retarded, I'm """alt-right""" but he is just so blatantly lowest common denominator and clickbaity.

And no, "being conservative" isn't punk, being an edgelord whose having fun on the internet while confusing and bewildering the offended, shocked masses with your behavior is. This site has taken a big fat shit on American public discourse that it probably can never recover from and it's fucking hilarious. That's what feels punk, not family values, chastity, or fiscal responsibility.

Melonhead was completely right to tear him a new one.

>>71828665
>decay of society
Capitalisms fault

>>71828483
>8 or 9 babies
damn, you got some work to do.

What's with all the politics on here? Fucks sake go to /pol/ for political discussion
I just want everyone to call my favorite genre a shit, not call my ideologies a shit

>>71828658

We never claimed to be tolerant. That's your dead-end virtue libtard.

Far-sighted reactionism is the new punk rock. Conservatism isn't proactive enough.

>>71828662

Do you ever go outside? Next time you run out of tendies and need to run to the store, count the number of 20 somethings you see without tattoos or piercings or dyed hair. Everyone is special snowflake these days. It's disgusting.

Also conservatism is more lean towards authoritarian ideas

Punk is highly related to anarchism which is extremely liberal

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>>71828732
>he says posting from his smartphone/computer through the Internet onto a privately owned website

>>71828777
t. Neckbeard who watches anime

In a real fourth Reich you'd be sent to the gas chambers with all those duhgenerates you hate, Eugene

No room in a national-capitalist utopia for NEETs who live in their mommies basement complaining all day about people that aren't them existing

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>>71828802

>>71828169
The only people who think thing's like this are people whose entire world is the internet. If you actually left your house for once and went to a local open mic you'd have a lot of rebellious liberal punks and SJW groupies getting on your case. My local scene is all chicago punk and they're insanely anti-trump.

>>71828169
Donald Trump is the new punk icon. Every celebrity and "artist" and other trend-setter is saying the exact same thing and he's being the true rebel by ignoring them. He will inspire new art from his fans and dull same-y "resistance art" from the people who hate him. The NeverTrumpers are the big conformists.

>>71828777
I like tattoos, it's the short-sighted solipsistic narcissism that aggravates me.

>>71828662
>implying almost all arent fucking atheist and you get shit for saying you are christian

>>71828784
>liberal

Lmao no, liberal bourgeoisie are just as scummy and privileged as right wingers. Anarchism is fundamentally anti capitalism. Read Bakunin.

>>71828784
Authoritarianism is on both sides, i.e. Nazi authoritarianism vs Communist authoritarianism
Coservatism isn't the new punk rock, but right wing ideologies certainly are becoming the counter culture

>>71828819
yes being a liberal in Chicago must be insanely difficult

>>71828831
This.

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>>71828802

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>>71828828
>get shit for saying you're Christian
>G-guys it's rich white christian guys who are the REAL oppressed people in western society!!!

how spooked are you, you reactionary bootlicker

>>71828169
>>71828819
In other words OP, you're completely full of shit. Guess that's the conclusion to my first response.

it actually is

being a trump supporter feels like the punk rock of old

>>71828777
Maybe in cities but not where I am
Also
>tattoos and died hair is disgusting
Get a fucking grip

>>71828825
This but mostly unironically. People protest against or advocate for things they don't understand just be to part of movement.

>>71828865
Fuck off and destroy some other country, Commie. Sweden will be happy to have you.

>>71828818
>>71828865
If you hate capitalism so much stop using tools designed by it
All you're doing is supporting the ideology you claim to hate, and in this day and age you can move to one of the few communist/socialist countries that hasn't been obliterated by their own stupidity
Either get the fuck out or shut the fuck up

>>71828899
>>71828916
all those marxists critical theorists...

they wrote down their works in books...

BOOKS. a Christian-capitalist invention of the white man. all books can be traced back to the Bible.

checkmate, leftist cucks

>>71828815

I make $52k a year, own my home and two old BMWs. Kiss my ass.

>>71828916
>implying those aren't failed communist states

>>71828875
Im not even rich???Isnt the other way. never mind

>>71828916
That's kinda of a stupid argument. Capitalism isn't even that great.

>>71828951
kys if you think material goods indicate your importance in any sense

you little brainlet puppet cuck, keep sucking off your boss

MODS

>>71828951
my dad owns Nintendo too

>>71828916
>Either get the fuck out or shut the fuck up
I thought the great thing about liberal capitalism was freedom of speech and opinion.

i think i'm finally starting to get sick of these political b8 threads

>>71828819
>implying kids at a punk show in Chicago in 2017 aren't all fucking posers just conforming to nonconformity

That's not real punk.

>>71828981
Ironically this thread has gotten progressively less articulate and more belligerent, kinda of like a really good mosh pit.

>>71828996
Not like communism huh?

>>71828899
>sweden
how can he destroy a country that's already been destroyed?

>>71829021
what's communism

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>>71828819
>OP is full of shit
>not malnourished hipsters who call themselves punks in 2017 and think they're fighting authority by swallowing a gallon of MSM semen every day

>>71828819
chicago is a shittier new york anyway
t. jew yorker

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>>71828802

>trumpsters being this desperate for any good news of any kind for their side

>>71829102
Do you?

>>71829114
ye

>>71829077
I'm looking at the MSM image you posted, but I don't think the people who watch that self-identify as punks or hipsters. Wrong attachment?

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>>71828818
>>71828865
>>71829102

>>71828890
>Get a fucking grip

No thank you, how about you get some fucking taste? Modesty is a virtue.

>>71829122
Nice

>>71828889

Gavin, Rotten, all the old punk rockers are Trumpers.

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>>71828962
You're unemployed or not working at a real job guereenteed

>>71828916
Just let them grow up, dude.

>>71828962
So far it's the best for me
I earned every dollar I have to my name and bought all my possessions, aside from a rifle I received as a gift
Honestly yes it's not great if the area you start in is shit, but I've been working since I was 14 for a local pool to gain enough experience to get any basic position at 19, which fun fact can pay 10.50 an hour if you look for the actually good jobs and not settle for McDicks or Walmart
So yeah its pretty great for me to have a couple grand saved up from working my ass off

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>>71829160
kek

>>71828753
>libtard
I can't take you seriously. Show some respect even if you disagree with liberal views.

>>71828973
>your opinions don't matter because you have no material goods and you live in your mother's basement
>haha you think you're important because you have material goods? kys
>now let me throw some insults at you because I've got no arguments, I've never had an argument and I never will have an argument
>Bernie 2016

>>71828996
Capitalism has nothing to do with US social legislature, seeing how it's an economic system
>leftist intelligence

>>71829197
hello, Reddit

>implying you all don't use shit made in china

>>71829206
lrn 2 read reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-tard

>>71829203
>thinking I defend the reddit corporatist candidate
>thinking I believe in democracy

Typical illiterate right winger lmao

Leftists are pathetic music is literally better without you lol (in general too)
;)

>>71829140
>>71828890
Correct. Other than small-ish personal tattoos in respectable locations, that and crazy dyed hair, and also hardcore entitlement, are some of the strongest indicators of having had parents who were "friends" instead of parents.

>>71829225
>psshhh...nothin personnel, kid

>>71829102
Everyone goes down when you level it out, not just the people above you

>>71829137
criticism of capatalism =/= full endorsement of communism

>>71828624
need a safe space?
>how dare you not tolerate intolerance!

I guarantee this thread redpilled at least one /mu/ normie. And for that I say, it was worth it.

>>71829183
keep convincing yourself you're happy with your empty consumerist ideology piggy

go listen to more radio music and turn your brain off :^)

>>71829225
I bet you're proud of being gay

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>>71829102

>>71829242
This unironically ofc

>>71829110
>snowflakes still think we care what the news says about Trump

Wake up faggot.

>>71829268
I mean it's nice being able to buy the highest quality headphones to listen to my favorite music and help support the people who made it

>>71828169
no

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>>71828624

>>71829267
>/mu/
>"redpilled
This place is as bad as tumblr sometimes kiddo there's no hope for the lot of them

>>71829221
Again, freedom of speech and opinion have nothing to do with capitalism
I really can't tell if you're trying to be retarded or not

Capitalism stands for mass production

Mass production is inherently anti art. Look at Kinkade paintings ffs

Right wingers are literal brainlets

It's 2017. There's nothing lamer, more contrived, or more square than being a liberal.

>>71829309
something something porky something something ideology

>>71829346
again, lrn 2 read reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-tard

>>71829332
This

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Who /nazbol/ here?

>>71829214
Reddit has nothing to do with this. I respect your opinion and political views.
Just stop trying to put down others because of their views.

>>71829197

The right wing has shown respect for years while the left shat on us and that's why we always lost. We finally stand up for ourselves and point out that your ideology is LITERALLY RETARDED AND SUICIDAL and you start whining about respect. Kill yourself immediately.

>>71829332
>>71829267
if you use the phrase redpill unironically you're living cringe

>>71829349
>Mass production is inherently anti art
As it turns out art is very low on the list of societal priorities, and it seems to be doing just fine in a capitalist environment of rampant mass production, so what exactly is your point?

>>71829373
>LITERALLY RETARDED AND SUICIDAL

>>71828802
>through the Internet
Made by governments and academics, not corporations.
>from his smartphone/computer
Computer. Also made by governments and academics.

>>71829349
No one is talking about art, you fucking retard.

>>71829373
the most spooked post I've ever read

do u unironically view the entire world as either the American far right and the American right (liberals)

do you play video games and watch anime and dislike reading? serious question

>>71829349
You're a little too young for this site buddy boi
:>)

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>>71829373
>The right wing has shown respect for years

>>71829349
Mass production only occurs when the quality can be comperable to the original, kinda like how records and cds are mass produced so the audio can be given to lots of people at once
The music that goes on the product isn't mass produced, it's unique to itself and multiplies itself so multiple people can listen to it whenever they desire. They're not different songs on different cds records or even digital files, it's quality is comperable to the original so it's for all intensive purposes the original

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>unironic communists on /mu/
This place is an embarrassment

>>71829373
Its people on both sides. The best thing we can do is ignore the bait and try to have a reasonable discussion about it.

>>71829349
>Mass production is inherently anti art
It's not like you're forced to make a lot of paintings. You either have talent (or ""talent"") or do a lot of stuff, the life of an artist isn't easy and it'll never be.

>>71829419
>made by
you mean invented. and then the corporations improved on those inventions much faster than any government ever could

>>71829431
Wow! You posted a meme. I guess I should throw out all my Derrida and Young Hegelian texts now

do you watch sports, brainlet?

>>71829435
Holy shit this guy has the right idea.

>>71829258

Please name another economic system besides Capitalism or Communism.

>inb4 Socialism or some other word for communism

>>71829431
kek

>he measures his worth off employment

embarrassing

>>71829357
Just sayin without the drive to be better than competition companies wouldn't develope better quality goods, so you can go back to your gramophone if you want to listen to some music

>>71829452
>I guess I should throw out all my Derrida and Young Hegelian texts now
Yeah, you definitely should

>>71829431
I feel like anyone claiming to support socialism or communism is just trolling but who knows.

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>>71829452
>brainlet
holy shit u really btfod him didnt u xD

>>71829388
>the Red pill
Is a real life phrase its actually part of our "culture" now.
Theres even a documentary about feminism with that name btw

>>71829388
I put quotations over it it is pretty stupid but it gets the point across and leftists get buttmad

>>71829439
yeah corporations sure have "improved" the internet I hated how it was when it was less corporate

humans aren't fuckin smart enough to run governments
we'll be better off once machines start making the decisions

>>71828624
i'm glad you'd have me shot if you had your way sometimes
>>71829332
no this place is equally as bad as tumblr

everyone replying to this post with sincerity is a baited faggot

enjoy your pathetic life

>>71829474
no i agree with you. i was mocking how i expected him to respond.

>>71829419
And who improved on the technology running your connection?

Please go back to dialup if the government and institution inventions are so perfect

>>71829452
Wow, sick burn anon.
Truly impressive.

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>>71829464
>socialism is full blown communism

American education: An excellent argument for unregulated capitalism!

>>71829474
Corporations are protected by the government fool.

>>71829517
i will if you stop using the commienet

>>71829371
go away no one likes you

cool, mom and dad are now punks.

>>71829435
NO RACE WARR

>>71829501
You mean dialup with no websites? Who do you think pays hiroshimoot to keep this place running? And how little it is at that because commies like you use adblock

>>71829501
the internet as we know it was never fully non-corporate. i do think that over the past 5 years it's gotten more corporate than it should be.

>>71828875
>Zizek
nice meme

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>>71829512
>everyone but me is dumb

>>71829419
The rapid advance of computers and actually most technology in general was driven almost entirely by capitalism as soon as they became viable consumer products.

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>>71829371
>being both a nationalist and a Bolshevik
Who /DemocraticAuthoritarian/ here?
Countries who fail under democracy are countries full of idiots, so who cares?

>>71829561
>not using adblock

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>>71829525
jesus christ

>>71829591
ha... imagine having "Family" or "Friends"... what losers...

>>71829423

Do you masturbate while Mohammad rapes your mom? Serious question.

>>71829535
So are citizens. What's your point?

>>71829535
Yes, a capitalistic government which wants to drive capitalism

>board with one of the youngest demographics
>overwhelmingly left

really makes you think. it's almost as if only children could fall for leftist ideology.

>>71829452
Le too intellectual to watch those brutes play sports.

>>71829623
have you stopped hitting your "wife"

>>71829635
>right wing tier logic

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>>71829635
really makes me think! those baby boomers are so intelligent, after all

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>>71829623
Sort of rude and inflammatory to say stuff like that, I had lots of muslim friends growing up and even studied the Koran in my youth.

he was my best friend, Nizar, and I loved him like a brother. It's not funny to make fun of his religious beliefs, and if someone cuts off your head I won't be surprised as to why.

I don't care much about politics but if you're a democrat voting white "male" in 2017 you should kill yourself. How much do you have to hate yourself to identify with those fuckwits?

>>71829635
it's not even that overwhelming though. you have people dropping "nigger" left and right and talking about everything they want to do to grimes and lavren.

>>71829677
>and if someone cuts off your head I won't be surprised as to why.

Tolerant left/religion of peace strikes again.

>>71829668
Seems to be on a significantly higher level than 16 year old commie tier logic

>>71829677
>if someone cuts off your head I won't be surprised as to why.

European detected

>>71829525
Are you posting that picture mockingly? Because that's a fucking rad cake, you bitch.

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>tfw when the internet has corrupted politics so much that I legitimately have no idea what to think

>>71829668
He's right

>>71829705
for (((you)))

>>71829677
Epic meme xDddd!!!!!11221!!

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>>71829373
ahaha, oh wow... right wing? respect?
Common sense is suicidal?

>>71829536
I'm just using cables placed by a private corporation feeding quantum particles to other private corporations and vice versa

Please tell me who is the real owner when private corporations did everything from harvesting the raw earth elements to producing all the technology driving those quantum particles

>>71829439
>>71829517
Wrong as hell, kek. Colleges did that. Usenet went to shit when AOL got their pocket in it and started giving it to customers. It used to be almost entirely academics and government employees before then, with the occasional retard with a big pocket-book getting laughed off.

>>71829594
Then why do capitalist tech companies only produce garbage? Even they know this, hence why they're using an OS made by a Finn college student and a literal anarcho-commie on all their servers, and hence why the most recent software from Google is literally just slight modifications to existing anarcho-communist technology. Take Chrome, ChromeOS, and Android, for example.

>>71829681
No one take this bait

>>71829668
have you ever wondered why people tend to lean towards the conservative party as they older? it's almost as if the magical fairy land promised by neoliberalism vanishes once you have to start working and paying taxes!

>>71829715
Democrats enslaved you ......................
Nigger

>>71829718
>implication is equivalence
he may be right but he's sure not correct

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>>71829736
Have you ever read Capital?

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>>71829700
You keep poking a beehive and getting stung and you're just like "BEES ARE AGGRESSIVE WAHHHH THEY SHOULD BE LESS AGGRESSIVE"

No shit Muhammad, it's almost like you're your own kind of martyr

>>71829602
>actively causing the death of the website

>>71829452
>brainlet

You're definitely the only one ITT using that cringey insult, so it's easy to spot you. Tell me, are you shorter than 6 foot and male? Because you sound like you made that word up because you're mad about being called a manlet.

>>71829750
get older*

>>71829715
Its politics on overdrive. Pretty fun if you actually keep up with the news cycle and have an actual ideology. Stopped caring after the election though.

>>71829746
How is that bait? If you're a white guy and vote democrat you're literally voting for a party that hates you.

>>71829750
Neoliberalism is right wing fuckwit, read a book

>>71829785
>How is that bait?
My bad, I misread your post.

>>71829762
No I just stack it bitch nigga money in the bank wipe my ass with hundreds got a problem?

>>71829785
>thinking the democrats want to debase those in power and the identity politics thing isn't just a front to slow progressives and further corporate interest

ha

AHHAHAHAHA

stop watching Fox News ideology-cuck

>>71829795
apologies, i meant neomarxism

>>71829768
>bee stings and decapitations are the same

cuck logic

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>days without /pol/itical discussion in moo: 0
fuck me.

>>71829828
You give them too much credit anon

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>>71829785
>Its politics on overdrive. Pretty fun if you actually keep up with the news cycle and have an actual ideology.
can confirm

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>>71829738
no you tell me who's the "owner"
>>71829750
you don't know what neoliberalism means
>>71829773
>one user makes a difference

>>71829746
He's fucking 100% spot on though.

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>not saging this /thread
come on guys...

>>71829846
>you don't know what neoliberalism means

please refer to >>71829829

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>>71829846
>Rapid fire bait

>>71829828
>the identity politics thing isn't just a front to slow progressives and further corporate interest
>orthogonality doesn't real AHHAHAHAHA

>>71829828
>industrial-grade autism

>>71829856
See>>71829812

>>71829785
the "all democrats are sjws" meme needs to end

They have no power outside of college campuses.

>this anon probably complains when trump voters are compared to nazis

>>71829846
i don't care if you use adblock but you should whitelist 4chan.

>>71829859
>2017
>marxism
yeah sure

>>71829873
>>this anon probably complains when trump voters are compared to nazis
Can't really blame him. It's a retarded comparison

>>71829868
>it's autistic to assume people want money

amerifat critical thinking skills. just spout memes when confronted with something your brain can't process

>>71829828
You're making a bunch of assumptions based on nothing and look like a pretentious ass. All I said is that if you're white and male the democrats hate you openly and if you willingly give them your support that shows some sort of defect in your own mind. Has nothing to do with the stupid shit you just spewed.

>>71829873
>the "all democrats are sjws" meme needs to end
>They have no power outside of college campuses.
I live in Chicago and watch CSPAN so I know both of these statements are bullshit.

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>threads actually about music get 50-100 replies usually
>this shithole of a thread gets 200+ replies
/mu/ - Music

>>71829510
>i'm glad you'd have me shot if you had your way sometimes

What do you think I'm a monster? I just want to take you for a ride in my helicopter.

>Poor attempt to piss something nice into a river of shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJEzEDMqXQQ

>>71829888
>le meme arrows

not an argument. go to any college campus

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>>71829914

>>71829897
just like saying all democrats are sjws

>>71829903
I know it better then you foreign bitch go pay your 90% tax to a governent that despises you lmfaooo

IDC about your ideology, if you wanted Hillary to win, even if the alternative of Trump disgusts you, you're either a damned fool or Saudi Arabia.

>>71829924
Ok, so you agree?

>>71829917
>college campus
you were talking about elections genius

>>71829591
In this case? Yes.

>>71828413
you're a shitty white man, and yeah, bye

>>71829933
yes, they are both ridiculous statements

>>71829681
>"male"

question: why are right wingers so insecure about their masculinity? why must they bring up everything as "being a real man"? why is their go to insult calling someone that isn't an aggressive meathead a cuck?

the majority of people on here are neckbeards ffs, it's not like you're alphas

>>71829914
Good this board needs to die and be reborn with actual music not memes

>>71829873
Most of Hillary's campaign was based on identity politics and personal shit over policy, the fact that she's a woman, etc. it sadly extends well beyond college.

I've been seeing a large incoming of /pol/itical threads disguised as music, why do you guys even reply to this? It's fucking corrupting this board and making it more awful than it really is

>look at this guy, whoahwihaohwoa conservatism is the new punk
>fuck you conservative shit my side is better than yours
>me me me everywhere

but fuck me this is 4chan. peace

>>71829930
enjoy dying in the streets to serve your mcdonalds church

>h-ha at least I'm free

Free to do what? Buy a gun? Buy a bottle of Coke? Brainwashed

>>71829970
>muh actual music
>>>/r/eddit

>>71829970
Boards don't get reborn anon. Just look at /tv/

>>71829979
Never said I supported Hillary.

And if she is an SJW she is the most moderate one I've ever seen

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>>71829943
wew nigger

>>71829829
neomarxism

is not a thing

no major political force in any western country is trying to govern using "neomarxist" ideas.

I guarantee you have no idea what marxism is, since you so blithely tossed "neoliberal" out there without having any idea what that was, either. Let alone "neomarxism". Read a fucking book.

>>71829958
There's plenty of room to be a man between being an aggressive meathead and bowing down and apologizing for your toxic masculinity.

>>71830018
I'm sorry but I am superior for not giving merit to the same off-topic bait post that gets posted here every day. You are inferior if you do. Sounds silly but it's true.

>>71829677
>has muslim friends
>wouldn't be surprised if someone got their head cut off for making fun of Mohammad

This checks out.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAoqWu6wmfI

Incoming broadcast.... pls listen

>>71829993
I'm living quite nicely.But you go prep your mother for some Nubian cock and don't forget to brush your teeth okay

>>71830016
I'm just saying SJW culture isn't just restricted to college and it reaches far and wide, up to top politicians.

>>71830064
>higher order b8 xDDDDDDDDDDDD
>>71830067
>music
fk offf

>>71830001
Tv is hilarious at the very least this place is begging to be torched

>>71829934
are you actually this stupid?

>>71829958

It's not about being a meathead, it's about embracing masculine traits that are routinely degraded and marginalized by the left, sort of like you did when you boiled masculinity down to being a meathead.

>>71830070
dude....

you're not as masculine as me. I, I'm living really comfortably!! After all that's all that matters in life, right?? Being comfortable. Please reassure me

>>71829858
But it's fun to piss off commies

>>71829998
You're the one who likes Mbv and nu you should go yourself

>>71830021
you're fucking clueless, it's hilarious

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>>71830094
>Tv is hilarious
>>71830099
not an argument
>>71830116
lies

>>71830113
Without struggle comfort does not exist.

Now back to the gulag, comrade.

>>71829958
*adjusts buttplug*

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>>71830115
so, why are you in /mu/?

>>71830067
Blacks are incapable of creating a prosperous and well suited society

>>71830120
Yes, all the global-capitalist countries in the world are secretly communists collaborating to subvert white Christian values

>>71830101
what? have you actually thought about this position at all? Why do you think masculinity is an actual thing? Why is x thing more "masculine" than another? If you think about it for fifteen seconds, you'll realize it isn't; stuff being more masculine or feminine than something else isn't an actual thing, and masculinity on its face isn't being "routinely degraded and marginalized by the left", holy persecution complex batman.

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>>71830163
globalist shill detected

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>>71830158
Listening to music is an inherently right wing activity.

>>71830184
not an argument

>>71829846
Well seeing how it takes a lot of work to process the elements into usable material, which is done by a private company
Then that raw material is used to make the technology running your Internet, also done by a private company
Then another private company purchases the technology and lets you use it for a fraction of the price

Still not getting it? Capitalism built the entire world around you and you want out. By all means, please leave, no one is keeping you here but yourself

>>71829734
>bombing a country then inviting the refugees you created into your country is common sense

Kill yourself libtard, before you kill us all.

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>>71830191
agreed

>>71830120
Is this seriously your counterargument? Feel free to explain to me why/how any major western political faction is "neomarxist". Your rebuttal is that easy, and yet you resorted to "heh, nothin personnel, kid"-tier vague retorts instead. Wonder why that is.

>>71830113

Why would I reeasure you you're foreign that's your job to do that to your own outsiders

>>71830199
not answer. who is the "owner"? remember, you introduced this concept into the conversation
> Capitalism built the entire world around you
(not true, btw)
>you want out
[citation needed]

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>>71830196
the day of the rope is coming whether you like it or not my cosmopolitan friend :^)

>>71830235
*an answer

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>>71830173
lol culture doesn't exist our consciousnesses don't exist nothing exists everything is subjective

>and masculinity on its face isn't being "routinely degraded and marginalized by the left"
>'toxic masculinity'

>>71829195
>the smirk that saved the West

>>71830277
>toxic masculinity is masculinity as a whole
yr sexist

Punk is about being yourself not being a twat so at this point in time no party is even close

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>>71830173
>stuff being more masculine or feminine than something else isn't an actual thing
established language disagrees
also you're wrong

>>71830320
Nobody is talking about masculinity as a whole, anon specifically said 'masculine traits that are routinely degraded and marginalized by the left'.

>>71830277
there is such a thing as toxic masculinity. Not all expressions of something are good just because they are expressions of something. Calling some masculinity toxic doesn't degrade masculinity any more than calling some food toxic degrades food.

And everything isn't subjective, but are you gonna argue that masculinity and femininity aren't? Culture does exist, and it's mutable, and it governs how our masculinity/femininity manifest. If you can prove otherwise, sincerely, do so, and publish it. You'll revolutionize about seven academic fields.

>>71830338
but duuude... like, everything is subjective bro

>>71830350
>masculinity doesn't exist
>toxic masculinity does though

I'm arguing with a child.

>>71830338
>>71830356
kys objectivist brainlets

>>71830328
>Punk is about being yourself
no it's not
>>71830349
so? that's not the post I replied to

>>71830338
masculinity and femininity are real in that they describe certain behaviors, but those descriptions are so variable from group to group, culture to culture and society to society that they are certainly not objective, concrete truths, at least not as we understand them.

Why do you believe otherwise?

Masculinity totally exists as a concept in society that most people recognize. It doesn't mean you have to agree with it or act on it but not liking something doesn't mean it doesn't exist

>>71828815
Not him, but I've only met 2.5 people inside of 4chan who aren't NEETS. My best friend, a stupid normfag, and the .5 is me because while I live by myself, I still go to college and my parents pay half my expenses even tho live in own apartment (live in Indiana not that expensive)

>>71830393
I'm the post you replied to. At least read the chain before commenting.

Better yet, lurk for a year.

>>71830235
I just explained to you that every component of the Internet you're using was built directly by capitalism, from when it had no owners as earthen resources to when it was purchased as refined goods.
Since you clearly can't get this through your thick skull private companies own the Internet you're using, so that means capitalism owns the Internet. There is no "commienet" unless you build all the components yourself

>>71830277
"toxic masculinity" is all about whenever the concept of masculinity is so exaggerated that it hurts other people. gay dudes being beaten because they don't fit the stereotype of manliness and the like. that's not an assault on masculinity itself at all.

>>71830365
>stuff being more masculine or feminine than something else isn't an actual thing
>>masculinity doesn't exist

>>71830365
>>71830338

masculinity exists, but it isn't an objective reality. so the concepts of masculinity and femininity have an effect on our world, but do not describe immutable or objective characteristics. Why is this so hard for you guys to understand?

>>71830419
>Why do you think masculinity is an actual thing?
t. you

>>71830430
i understand. i just think that that's irrelevant

>>71828802
Or rather than making a ridiculous moral valuation,
you could tell me why capitalist alienation doesn't cause negative cultural and psychological effects.
I mean, actually make an argument against
Marxist thought.
>B-but I'd have to read and think for that!

This thread has shown me that arguing with feminists and gender theorists is a never ending spiral of despair that ultimately accomplishes nothing and enriches nobody.

>>71828830
>Talking about Bakunin
>probably reads other philosophers
>hates bourgeoisie
KEK

>>71830411
>I'm the post you replied to
'congratz'
>read the chain before commenting
I did
>lurk for a year
no u
>>71830417
>capitalism owns the Internet
not how ownership works
>>71830444
>t. you
lie

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