At what age do people grow out of music? At what age does listening

There was a study that said at about 32. Some people will disagree, but I think it's based on people with families and careers that really don't have time to sit around and listen to, or discover new music.

>>71814722
http://www.nme.com/news/music/various-artists-1084-1208596

Everyone just likes what they liked at 21 for the rest of their lives

>>71814722
Really this is something that more people should realize. bands are for teens

>>71814747
you fucking pedo. get the fuck off this board.

I get the use of juvenile here is quasi-ironic but it makes you seem like the biggest midget when you use it like that.

Good thread though. I want to say 20 is when I can't listen to bands without what their saying or what they're about making me laugh

>>71814747
>not listen to Animal Collective with your children?!
When I'm a daddy I'm going to play my $40 special edition "re"press of MPP for all my kids though and paint mud on our faces aren't you!!

I'm 20 and I've completely been losing interest in music this year compared to when I was still a teenager. It might be depression though, also I don't have any music friends to go to shows with cause they all changed

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>>71814882
that's a shame anon, do you like memes?

I produce a lot but hardly truly enjoy listening to music anymore

I'm 23

I'm way too cynical now to just sit down and enjoy an album

>>71814767
that's worrying because my taste is bad

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>>71815052
Yes... that is truly a shame

>>71815093
I think I need to start smoking weed again t b h

but I lost my dealer and I'm too autistic to find another

i feel like i'll still want to discover some dank shit when i'm 50 senpai. You can't really grow out of music, it's just so human.

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>>71815116
I'm sorry to hear that

>>71815133

It's really not that great.

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>>71815116
if you can't find weed in 2017 you are a fucking joke bub

it's practically almost legal hell i told a cop who smelled weed in my car that i smoked before i went for a drive (had a qtr 15 inches away kek) and he just questioned me to see how capable i was to drive under the influence and sent me home scratch free

oh yeah... i'm a half caste in SC buddy

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>>71815176
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bia6baiZBpM

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>>71814722

>>71814882
Definitely don't give up music. For a time it will inevitably lose any of its ability to touch but make sure to never second-guess yourself when it might be time to stretch yourself and try something new or even old. Music is magical like that. Music is message

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>>71815182
I already stated I'm autistic you dumb normie

>>71814926

Nope, I'm getting sick of them. All I feel is a sense of impending doom for the future of humanity

>>71814722
Happened to me last year at 28 and I'm a bit of a late bloomer, so probably mid 20's.

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>tfw movie and vidya backlog so big I haven't had any time to listen to 2017 music

feels bad man. definitely not going to grow out of music soon

>>71814747
oh shit you're back, haven't been on in a while myself

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>>71814722

Good music doesn't have an expiration date.

Why'd you post a picture of Nick Kroll

>>71814767

>toro y moi
>anco
>cut copy
>radiohead

yeah ok fine, that's boring enough to be endurable

there's a reason why /mu/ is one of the youngest boards

there's something about when you're 15-17 where arguing about music and having favorite bands and albums actually seems to mean something.

you might actually have good taste but nobody gives a fuck and you're probably very insecure and trying desperately to find an identity.

when you pass 20 or so it's embarrassing. so you just listen to whatever you like without really caring too much

>>71815580

pretty much yeah, i've wasted way too much time with this and i have none of the COOL TRENDY TUMBLR friends i had in high school and my first two years of college.

>>71814722
>At what age do people grow out of music?
Never.
>>71815580
>>71815601
Your fail was not listening to what you like since the beginning.

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>tfw 22 and getting more and more into music
Feels good, dudes.

>>71815571
Maybe not the exact same bands but the same style. Like the new bands I listen to now are mostly indie-rock that sounds like it came out of the mid 2000s when I was in high school.

>>71815580
yep. you reach a age where you just listen to what you like and you could give a fuck what anybody else (including critics) thinks about it.

the idea that you get to a certain age where you become too intelligent and mature to enjoy one of the oldest and arguably most abstract and complicated artforms in the world is really stupid imo

>>71815613

I'm not too shaken up about it. I still discovered a lot of cool shit during my time as a hypebeast.

>>71815613
I'm not saying I forced myself to like stuff. But you cling to it a lot more at that age as part of your identity. As if someone is going to one day highly praise you and think you're the coolest guy of all time because of what you listen to. Nobody does. And people dislike hipsters because it's a childish pissing contest of who can have the best taste.

I've started to feel that a lot of my (old) favorite albums and bands are meant for teenagers. Pretty much all indie rock, shoegaze, slowcore, etc just seems immature now.

>>71815744
it is

>>71815613
>Never.

Nah. Most people do. Specially when a lot of people are not THAT into to music to begin with and are mostly just looking to fit into a group.

>>71815845
That's people growing out of their disingenuous personalities, not music.

>>71815686
>arguably most abstract and complicated artforms in the world

But it's the lowest form of art. If you can even call it that. The best music has already been "solved" centuries ago.

>>71815870
Yes snowflake, everybody but you was a poseur.

>>71815902
sloppy bait dude

>>71815870

They're not going to stick their fingers in their ears if they hear music in public, but people do grow up and realize music is not that important.

This thread just illustrates how fucking retarded mu really is concerning music.

>>71815902
>The best music has already been "solved" centuries ago.
Same for painting, sculpture, dance. What's left, literature?

Growing up of something you enjoy is a concept originating from cultural marxism intented to make your life shittier. Thinking you're too old for something is incredibly pathetic.

>>71815933
touched a nerve? lmfao

>>71816008

How does this relate to Marxism? If anything, culture marxism would want you to remain an immature infant forever.

>>71816032
Yes snowflake, anybody who disagrees with you is just projecting.

Are you literally 15?

>>71815952
Yup. I'm in my later 20s and following more artists, genres, and labels closely than I ever have been. I think """music""" contains such a broad spectrum to appreciate, but I don't expect the majority of /mu/ to feel similar when they're more interested in listening to memecore, p4k/Fantano approved albums, and whatever garbage is trending on the boards.

Typical "bands" make up less and less of what I listen to compared to high-school; it's not uncommon to outgrow a lot of post-hardcore or whatever you listen to when you're 17. But there are so many people doing cool things in other genres that it stays fresh. For me, anyway.

>>71816008
Is blaming everything on "cultural marxism" a new meme

>>71816054
I'm just noticing that you got really upset really quickly at the mention of people who just listen to a certain kind of music to fit being disingenuous

I don't know who else would leap to that kind of person's aid honestly, it seems like an irrational response for anyone who didn't have an insecurity in that regard to react the way you are currently reacting

Just my 2 cents duder, maybe you just have anger issues idk

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>>71816085
CULTURAL MARXISM

>>71816039

Because it reflects your individuality and desire to feel alive. There would be "superior" artists to listen to and that would not be music that is uplifting but mostly made to be analyzed rather than enjoyed/felt.

>>71815902

>art needs to be "solved"

autism: the post

>>71816222

I was illustrating why music isn't art.

>>71814882
Hey idk if you'll see this but maybe check out Have a Nice Life and their album Deathconsciousness if you haven't already.

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>>71814722
most of this board circle jerks to indie/underground crap, i can see someone growing out of that because its a trend to a degree. there is a decent amount of genuine interest though, people who make music who want to share it, those who want to see who shares the same taste as them, and those who want to find new music. idk its not that bad of a board overall, i was surprised at how many people like the same shit i do.

>>71815547
Yeah, I took a break from here over the weekend.
Nothing spectacular happened other then me being really bored and going to the gym.

>>71816375
>and going to the gym.
That won't last, you'll always be an obese manchild.

>>71816406
I've lost 45 lbs so far since january. I don't care what you think, I'm getting my shit together and getting back into better health so I can get myself out of this years long slump. Why the fuck am I telling you this?

>>71816440
>Why the fuck am I telling you this?
Because you are in denial so lying about how you are getting better makes you feel better. Also, you add that tinge of awareness at the end because you think it will make your case my plausible.

Keep lying, fat boy.

>>71816510
Denial of what exactly? That I don't care what someone 4chan has to say about what I'm trying to do?

>>71816375
>trying to get better
You made $10,000 in 5 months and spent it all on stupid shit. For the last 3 days you've been making posts on facebook about how you regret it. That's not getting better.

>>71816586
Plus, it's the same old song with you. You've said the same shit for 8 years now and have shown little progress. Until you show some actual change people are going to ignore you and rip on you for it.

>>71816586
how the fuck do you burn 10 grand in 5 months?

>>71816698
be Brandon

>>71816698
>10,000 in 5 months

he makes that much money and bitches about now having a car and living in his parents house? where is his money going? he makes more then me and i have my own place and car

>>71816780
Same. I only make 600 a month and I have my own flat in the city centre.

>>71816780
if he says he made that much and not lying his ass off he'd have to be payed like $450-$500 a week. that's some serious spending.

>>71814722
(you)

>>71816586
What's the username?

>>71816780
>>71816816
people would stop ripping on him all the time if he had his shit together. why does he even still post here? is it everyone that hates him or is it just montie dropping trip and fucking with him in every thread he posts in?

>>71816921
>is it just montie dropping trip and fucking with him in every thread he posts in?
probably this since Brandon said earlier tonight that he wasn't going to let montie run him off from here. i think he should leave for his own good because that guy seems like he's insane.

>>71814877
??! no

>>71816921
>is it just montie dropping trip and fucking with him in every thread he posts in?
Lol, I have spoken to Montie before. He's not that crazy. Stop being paranoid. Brandon is just a fat manchild.

>>71817028
I don't even think Brandon is how he is on here irl either. Just seems like he should spend less time here and more time on bettering himself. This place does no good for anyone.
>$10,000
Sound like he has a problem with spending. Maybe there's an underlying issue like serious addictions or really bad spending habits. I've fucked up and spent money on bullshit before, but never to that magnitude.

>>71817028
Sure thing montie

>>71817079
Wow, so funny. Sure, Montie's a cunt with a pleb taste (yes, Oasis is bad Montie) but you're being paranoid if you actually think that.

>>71817077
he's said before he has serious issues with depression and anxiety. i feel bad for him because there's obviously something missing in his life to spend so much time here. seems like he keeps fucking up the good things in his life and i think he'd benefit by getting his spending and priorities straight.

>>71817102
then who are you

>>71817154
i'm not getting how someone can blow through $500 a week and have no bills or anything?

>>71817195
knowing B-Love's luck it's probably Lauren herself talking shit to him

>>71814747
A study you, for some reason, decided not to post. Just make another bait thread. We've had this one many times before.

>>71817220
he lives with his parents, right?

>>71817195
lol, what are you expecting me to say? my name? if I wanted to be known on here I would become a tripfag.

>>71817077
How dare you take my name in vain!

>>71817235
yeah, he needs to stp spending his money all the time and he could get a car, move out, and have it own place with that kind of money. think he said he makes $16 an hour.

>>71817077
>This place does no good for anyone.
It's fine, but the problem is it attracts autists. And for autists, this place is no good.

>>71817259
he makes more then me and i'm on my own

>>71817259
i think this place fucks with him more than he'd like to admit. from him believing lauren was going to sue him to the restraining order thing. it's just people screwing with him because they know who to get under his skin. he's said on here and facebook that he loses sleep over it and i think he needs a good break from here to get his head right.
wonder where all his moneys going, he has to have something to show for it right?

>>71817347
he's probably fucking with us like he thinks it's real like we fuck with him. why the fuck would she be posting here and where would she find the time? it's all unrealistic

>>71817456
no he literally made a post on facebook like "I'm not sure if it's real or not, but I'm losing sleep" and i knew what he was talking about.

>>71817481
where is this page. can I follow?

>>71817501
he has enough issues as it is, let's not start tormenting him on facebook
>>71817456
>it's all unrealistic
it's like the thing with him being banned from shows nothing's ever been proven and it's all heresy and the thing with her knowing his cousin to knowing someone he knows through mopeds. it's just people fucking with him.

>>71817231
http://www.avclub.com/article/new-study-shows-people-stop-listening-new-music-33-218752

>>71814767
this isnt true

>>71817596
nah, 7kt said she banned him and brandon from shows and that both of them made her cry.

>>71817596
lol, why would anyone torment him? I just wanna follow what he posts.

>>71817695
which was a baseless claim he just said it happened, doesn't mean it actually did(and the one about him getting phone calls from glasgow, and some how knowing it was from a tracphone)sometimes people get too comfortable here and forget they're on 4chan.

>>71814722
>At what age do people grow out of music?
No firm age, either you get a life or ennui sets in too deep. take your pick.

>>71817711
i would share his facebook url but i'd probably get banned for dox'ing.
>>71817716
she did say once she bans people from shows in some interview years back. i have no idea if brandon's pic is being hung up somewhere, but I really doubt it.

>>71817748
>ennui
lol, I never knew that was an English word too. I'm from Quebec so I was raised bilingual and I thought that was only French.

>>71817766
no you would not. don't post the url, just the username

>>71817102
montie has no humanity but he seems ok

>>71817631
Not a single mention of the size of a data set. Not even here: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jan/06/spotify-music-streaming-taste-profile. And this is a link to an internal tool for personalization.

>>71817795
why is he after brandon so hard anyway? did brandon do anything to him?

>>71817809
He's not. Brandon just says that for some reason. For attention, I suppose. Montie messed with him once on here but that's it.

>>71817835
he's not? he's the one who started calling him a pedophile out of nowhere and said he wants to kill lauren. is he just trying to make brandon leave? isn't that why unty left because montie just wouldn't stop fucking with him?

>>71817847
it's because monties desperate to become known on 4chan and will slander and destroy peoples lives to get there. a sane person doesn't do something like that, trolling or not

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>>71814722
you´re sorta right with the band shit coz ive been to a college rock show and pop singer with a 3 man crew live during last few months and walked out of both coz it just genuinely felt like shitty waste of time to be there

at least 23´s for me when i started to feel seriously disappointed by mediocre musicians. it also doesnt help that i do music myself coz then you´re even more critical and less suprised with show flicks

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>>71814767
>you will forever be an edm dudebro
noooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOO0000000000

>>71814722
that has more to do with your perception of bands than anything real, or of this board
when you actually grow up you'll stop caring about appearing mature

>>71814722
music is life dude

>>71817847
yeah he's trying to make brandon leave. he's done it to other trips before.
>>71817766
whats brandon like in person?

>>71817936
its to hide the size of his heart

>>71817944

shy, awkward, kind of social, can be funny when he wants, kind of quiet, means well. laid back, friendly can be a pretentious dick
,

40 and still enjoying new music.

>>71818051
dude gtfo

>>71818066
Why?

>>71818020
that's cool, i always imagined him being an asshole or really weird

>>71815756
What is real mature music them?

>>71818915
*then

>>71815527
>movie and vidya
that's some pleb artfoms you got there

>>71815953
memes have yet to reach their true potential

>>71816559
yes

>>71818051
I love you Turny, you're my fav trip

>>71818915
traditional pop and madrigals

>>71815527
most 2017 music is uninteresting and not worth listening to anyways

try 2014, maybe

>>71815744
that doesnt mean you can't still enjoy them
for teenagers doesnt mean EXCLUSIVELY, you know?

I was thinking of myself at like 70 and what will I listen to and what have I listened to up to that point, will I still be checking out new music? It's weird, rock from 60s will be 100 years old, is anyone gonna be listening to that anyway.. etc

>>71814722
the only people who grow out of music are closet plebs who were only pretending to like music in the first place because they were faggots who wanted to belong or seem cool. don't worry you'll move on to something else and do the same thing and your entire life will be spent pretending to give a shit about things because you're a braindead dumbfuck.

I just get into a handful of new artists or bands a year, despite having been on this board since 2009.

I think I'll be fine. My days of sponging up everything are past me and that's cool. I think a lot of people's problem is they don't really get into genres that are new to them after a certain age.

>>71819210
this desu senpai baka

I'm 29, almost 30, and I finally feel like I'm starting to grow out of music. Folk seems repulsive and self-absorbed, metal seems overwrought and juvenile, rock music is just trash. Not to mention jazz and classical, the genres of tippers everywhere.

I don't even like noise music anymore. It's all shit, all of it, improvised garbage made by untalented asians and pretentious yuppies.

Basically, fuck off. And get off my lawn.

>>71819210
inauthentic life best life

music is shit tbqhwy

>outgrowing an entertainment medium
so when do I outgrow TV and Film?

>>71819876
I outgrew them both way before music

>>71819876
>he hasn't already outgrown TV and film
Your only relation to those shitpiles should be posting bane and sheev threads

>>71819885
>>71819883
so is life just an empty husk for you guys or are you elitist book readers?

>>71819907
I only post memes and sometimes wistfully thumb through the scores of my favorite pieces

>>71819807
having to pretend is the best life? enjoy being subordinate for the rest of your life.

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>>71819955
fake people are the elite

>>71816586
>>71816780
get a life, fuckin' stalker

>>71814747

Never understood why people need to give up things they like because they have a family.

You can have a family and still listen to music.

Just turned 30, and I'm starting to finally enjoy experimental, electronic/EDM/IDM, trad folk & ambient. No way I'll stop in the future to find & explore new stuff

>>71816368
lol

>>71820392
Most people don't give things up.

All these posts in here talking about being too old for certain genres or too old to discuss music ironically just come off as immature.

You know, in actual practice there is nothing wrong with it, like maybe you chose to dedicate less time to the hobby as you get older, maybe you get other interests, whatever it may be, all that is completely fine. But there is something so contrived about people that write about cut-off points as if it gets pathetic after a certain point.

It reminds me of sophomore kids talking about growing out video games because they haven't played one in 3 weeks and how the hobby gets "sad" at a certain point, every fucker I had that conversation with growing up is still sinking hundreds of hours into shitty ARMA clones and other survival games in their mid twenties, with an adoration for lowest common denominator twitch streamers.

>>71821220
I'm sorry, but being obsessed with effeminate low test mumblecore and all other kinds of dull nigger music made by borderline retards after one has passed the age of 18 is just flat out embarassing.

>>71821289
Glad you were able to mature past that. I wonder where the cutoff for descriptions such as "lowtest" and "nigger music" lies.

I haven't heard a genuinely good album in about 3 years.

I think I'm already there.

26 btw

>>71815744
The generation before us has an adoration for pretty astonishingly placid music, so you have to wonder how embarrassing it really is to like /mu/core past 30.

But if it makes you feel less insecure about yourself, go on and start listening to the ripe and mature radio approved classics.

>>71821336
Literally the only form of music that has any claim to being a serious form of artistic expression is european academic/art music, then mostly of course on the page, but one may argue that the act of performance could have some merit too.

>>71821579
I take it that "seriousness" from your point of view is not a subjective standpoint? Serious art can be measured objectively?

Cool. You're a big boy for sure. I'm convinced of your maturity, no need to really move beyond this, could you please use "nigger" as a descriptor again? I'd love it if you personally called me a low test beta male, maybe that'll inspire me to do something with my life, it's just rare to hear pejoratives like those coming from a learned man.

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>>71821579
serious music is completely dead coopted too now. culture is kill

>>71821719
oh for sure, all that remains is empty nostalgia and fetishization
>>71821636
All popular music is derived from negroid spirit as is all American culture.

>>71814767

finding this to be true

>>71814767
22 is when I actually started branching out in terms of musical taste and developed a real passion for it, before that I was hardly above average music listener.

It'll be interesting to see if I ever fall back on those times, but the way I feel about certain music and albums now is way more intense than anything I felt for music at 19-21.

>>71814767
This is probably true for the average listener. I don't see why this would apply for hobbyists or even creative people that listen to music regularly.

>>71822825
consider that places that people talk about music (like /mu/) are largely inhabited by a perpetual influx of 16 year olds and it's pretty easy to move on and get out of the loop

>>71814767
For some reason, I don't think I'm going to be listening to 90's emo and 80's hardcore punk when I'm a 45 year old lawyer

>>71820042
>implying you won't spend your life sucking dick to get to suck even more dick
have fun sucking dick

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>>71823563
i will

>>71823441
Imagine what the internet is gonna look like 40 years from now, the internet is so young that there's really no precedent for it. But imagine all the retired citizen that are gonna be inhabiting the online world. Right now, the vocal voices are dominated by young people, of course, but people that grow old familiarized with it are gonna fall right back in when they're retired and have nothing to do during the day.

Whatever the 4chan equivalent of 2050 is, is gonna be full of senior citizen shitposters, and it is gonna be way more intense than it is now, because they'll have a whole lifetime full of pent up anger and frustration.

>>71823682
This will be scary, but I'm interested to see it.

All you people in this thread shit talking cinema are just showing how little you know about it as an art form.

>>71815116
Order a pizza and ask the delivery guy.

>>71814767
Yeah, this is true for most people. It's not going to be true for a lot of people on this board, though, because like this guy:
>>71822825
said, we're atypical and have atypical listening habits.

So if you're still doing *real* musical exploration in your 20's (e.g. getting into new genres, changing your favorite genre, listening to things on bandcamp, etc.), then you're atypical. Most people figure out what they are in college, like "I'm a blues guy" and they just stick with that til they're in the dirt if they stick with music at all.

So if you keep going, you're atypical. I'm almost 30, and I'm still going.

I had a professor who was like 38-42 yrs old in college, and he was very into finding new music and being current with the youth. He would email kids he thought looked hip like "please recommend me things." I remember that being distinctly pathetic.

So I'd say this guy:
>>71814747
probably has it right. FBPB. Mid-thirties, if you haven't committed to a personal brand (classical guy, noise guy, etc) and settled down into a set of firm favorites and general tastes, you're going to come off emotionally-stunted and tryhard, which is really sad for a grown man in his 30's.

>>71823953
>So if you're still doing *real* musical exploration in your 20's (e.g. getting into new genres, changing your favorite genre, listening to things on bandcamp, etc.), then you're atypical. Most people figure out what they are in college, like "I'm a blues guy" and they just stick with that til they're in the dirt if they stick with music at all.
>So if you keep going, you're atypical. I'm almost 30, and I'm still going.
Literally what is the point of listening to the same kind of dull nigger music made by borderline retards for over a decade? What's wrong with you? Are you autistic and this is just some kind of collectors thing like Pokemen?

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>tfw 25 and just discovered Minutemen a few months ago

WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME BEFORE

>>71823989
I'm not personally a fan of blues. But like, imagine talking to a 35 year-old guy, and he's like "I just got into post-bop" or some shit. It's weird and a little sad.

>>71823953
>I had a professor who was like 38-42 yrs old in college, and he was very into finding new music and being current with the youth. He would email kids he thought looked hip like "please recommend me things."
wtf I hope he was friendless

>>71823953
>you're going to come off emotionally-stunted and tryhard
why would you, other than because you think so based on knowing that one guy

>>71819015
I just can't help being amazing

>>71814722
I'm a musician, I can't grow out of it. It's who I am and what I do for a living.

>>71824023
without knowing why, what his hobbies are or something, no i wouldnt let you put that judgement on my mouth
but he'd probably have a midlife crisis and seeks out to cultivate new interests, that's perfectly natural tho

>>71824023
It's way less sad than a 35 year old that is listening to his favorite 21st century dubstep hits.

Which by the way will absolutely become a norm, this is a genre that has defined many peoples musical tastes going from 18 to 25. So, do I really find it sadder that a 35 year old is still getting into new things without having firmly attached himself to something than somebody like that? No, I really don't.

Plus a 35 year old man isn't going to flaunt this like a 19 year old is, he'll do this in private because he doesn't fucking care about letting people know what he's interested in.

>>71814722
When will you outgrow 4chan?

>>71823953
>we're atypical and have atypical listening habits.
>..
>So if you're still doing *real* musical exploration in your 20's (e.g. getting into new genres, changing your favorite genre, listening to things on bandcamp, etc.), then you're atypical.

So extended adolescence? Arrested development?

ageism: the thread: the experience

>>71824188
He's talking about people in their fucking 20s, but if you somehow think that letting your teenage years define you for literally the rest of your life as the superior of the two then fine by me.

>>71824243
I just mean that like, 90% of the people you meet, they're going to be listening to yes, the music from their highschool and college years for the rest of their lives. That's where dadrock comes from: dudes blasting Pink Floyd for literally 40 years.

Most people will do that, and it's fine. It's normal.

We're hobbyists, so I assume most of us will keep it up until 30 or a little after. That's "cool dad" territory. That's like the dad who digs Sonic Youth and The Beastie Boys or something.

But like, do you really want to be the 55 year-old guy whose favorite artist is Father John Misty? That guy is weird. The idea is that by your 30's, you should have your sense of self and sense of style ironed-out. You know what you like, you're confident, and you're not really finding yourself or exploring so much any more as building a career, starting to save for retirement, maybe starting a family, maybe becoming a community leader, etc.

>>71824402
You replied to somebody talking about their 20s though so you can't really fault me for misinterpreting it.

I agree with you more or less. I think there can be confidence in musical exploration though, through a deep understanding of genres, styles, conventions and all this. Of course that person will have their favorites and be set on that but still continue exploring.

>>71824402

Those Pink Floyd listening dads considered themselves "hobbyists" when they were in high school/early college years too, just like every teenager on /mu/. And do those dads really still like Pink Floyd? Not really, just something to talk about to remind them of their teenage years.

Music really is something you grow out of.

>>71824402
>do you really want to be the 55 year-old guy whose favorite artist is Father John Misty? That guy is weird.
only if he makes the music he listens to his identity like someone in their teends or 20s would
but you don't have to do that, it's something you probably should get over in fact
observing how trends change in the field youre interested in, why would you stop being interested in that if you're already a /mu/ level hobbyist. think of it like you're doing, idk, musical-sociological research, sort of detach your image

>>71823476
>I don't think I'm going to be listening to 90's emo and 80's hardcore punk when I'm a 45 year old lawyer
do you know what the law profession entails?

I've never seen this as sad, musical exploration is never pathetic. I've bonded with many people older than I (teachers, parents, etc.) Through recommending each other new music. I recently got my former guitar teacher into Black Moth Super Rainbow, and now we discuss their music frequently.

>>71824819
yeah but all of /mu/ is insecure about their age because lowkey everyone wants to be a musician but hasn't even released anything at 21 ie when every one of their favorite artists made their debut, haven't achieved anything else either, fresh out of college with no real plan, so they're fixiated on that, trying to make people older than them look bad to feel better, telling people off for listening to "teen music" because they're oh so mature tho

>>71824243
By that point, you should have already reached such knowledge in music, the arts in general and the theory of aesthetics that you've already learned that it is literally pointless to listen to other music than Mozart.

>>71823476
I bet you will.

>>71824949
It really is a sign of immature whenever you see people talking about what they can't and won't do when they hit [age].

I don't know why so many people feel big and mature for doing this, any 40 year old with a specialized interest is gonna tell you that you're a retard for trying to diminish the value of an interest of yours, based on your own insecurities.

What you guys are really saying is that currently you let [interest] define you and it is the filter of which you view the world through, and with this mentality of course it'd be pathetic for a 35 year old to be interested in the same things you are, the difference there is that the 35 year old isn't letting his interest be the defining characteristic of him, it's just part of his life.

>>71814848
>it makes you seem like the biggest midget
no ones gonna respond to this?

>>71818051
>this is what 40yo Britbongs listen to

https://www.last.fm/user/turnyqx

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>>71814722
never

>>71824949
>>71825356

It's funny because you guys seem the most emotionally reactive out of anyone in this thread. This is obviously something that makes YOU feel insecure.

>>71815554
This.
ITT retards that think classical music is actually bareable

>>71825503
Well thought out replies are now insecure and emotionally reactive?

Anyways, yes I'm insecure but I'm still right.

>>71825530

You seem to be upset with what you have found in this thread. To see people in this thread admit that music as a hobby is mostly an adolescent phase. You're scared of being the adult who plays nintendo in public, but you still can't bring yourself to throw that damn gameboy away, so instead you make weak arguments like "b-bu-but people who think things are are-specific are the true immature ones!".

>>71824958
Holy shit you have brain damage. Mozart is the least inventive, most idiptic and lacking of expression artist i have ever heard. Please run into a big truck. Biggest you can find!

>>71825736
fact of the matter is i don't know if it is an adolescent phase because i'm not in my 30s yet. i'll see where i am in the future, and naturally i don't try to make a claim like that until then
>"b-bu-but people who think things are are-specific are the true immature ones!"
well, are you?

>>71825736
Wait why do I suddenly care about phases? I don't view my interests as that and I don't have that personality either. I've never been an easily impressionable kid that went through highly contrasting and awkward phases.

I'm not embarrassed at all. I just think it's idiotic when I see people denounce their own interests to seem mature, it's contrived and an ugly personality trait. In practice there's nothing wrong with it, but there's very few people on 4chan practicing what they preach, it's just tryhards doing whatever they can to feel better about themselves.

So by all means if you are someone that has lost an interest in music as a hobby, if you are settled in with your tastes and you're concerned with other things, that is great. But you know what isn't great, talking about how "totally over" you are music because you're super concerned with other adult things.

>>71825503
>you guys seem the most emotionally reactive out of anyone in this thread
literally "u mad", try again

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>>71825761
now now

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Posting in a Sam thread
My father is nearing 60, plays professionally, and loves music
You fucktarts are fucktarted to all goddamn shit, nawmean?

>>71815116
1. Stop being autistic (fake it till ya make it)
2. Get a job
3. Make friends at said job
4. At least 1 will have a weed connection
Easy as that friendo

>>71824098
True

>>71817941

30 years old.

anyone have brandon's username? I want to follow his posts.

>>71827481
Brandon

>>71815052
this, I can barely listen to music anymore without feeling jaded unless it's old shit

ITT: plebs that seriously care about the image they give off from their music taste.

Seriously, you shouldn't really ever care about anything but enjoying whatever you want to listen to. I guess to a lot of you, music is just a fashion accessory and that's pretty sad

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>>71827509
nope

>>71814722
I couldn't care less about the question, but can anybody tell me if sam hyde has an official channel or something? I've recently got into him but just find its stuff all over random channels

>>71827509
>Brandon
He seems to be going through a lot right now. Hope he pulls through.

>>71827630
>I guess to a lot of you, music is just a fashion accessory and that's pretty sad

That's literally what music is. You just won't let yourself realize that.

>>71828839
he will. he's a pretty strong willed person.

>>71828839
he'll be alright
if he can get through the hell that was his past he can get over what he's going through now.

>>71814767
At 21 I loved metal. Now I love Wagner, Dylan, and folk musicians.. What happened? I can't even listen to metal without thinking it sounds ridiculous.

>>71829994
you fell for memes at some point in your life

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>>71815133
This.
Why would OP make this thread on /mu/?

>>71814722
I've growed out of popular music (and now I can't help myself but thinking about even obscure /mu/core albums as popular music) when I was 21.
I listened to Bach's Art of Fugue, recorded by Glenn Gould (don't call me pleb, I still knew nothing about anything about Bach) and the contrast was too evident for me to ignore it. Suddenly all the music I had on my HDD was basically worthless to me. It was like reading YA books instead of actual classics. I realized that that was the best music made by incompetents, people who are obviously completely devoid of ambition, sensibility and sophistication.

Before that I thought that classical music was boring, formulaic, devoid of feelings and pathos: basically something you had to force to yourself in order to enjoy. I always implied certain pretentiousness to it, and now that idea seemed foolish to me.

From then on I listened mostly to baroque, classical and contemporary music, learned how to read a score and trained my ears.

Somehow I'm glad I've discovered it that late. Had I listened to it for the first time when I was 5 I may have normalized the magnificence of this art.

>>71815116
Try DXM, it's legal and it's great, but it's not something you can do often safely like weed. Twice a month is okay though. I listened to Leaves Turn Inside You on DXM and it felt like I had sunken inside of my bed.

>>71814722
I'm going to say mid 20's for most normies.

Idk. I'm using my brother as a metric. He used to listen to a lot of indie music, keep up with new releases, used to play a lot of new music for me, and now I'm pretty sure he's so far out of the loop that getting back into modern music would be a pretty big mountain to climb.

>>71814767
I just started branching out and really listening to more experimental stuff like, last year and I'm 23.

>>71824402
>I just mean that like, 90% of the people you meet, they're going to be listening to yes, the music from their highschool and college years for the rest of their lives

But does this really even happen that much, or is it a meme?

>>71831544
Isn't that just drinking delsym?

Depends on how you approach it. As Frank Zappa said, most popular music is the background to a certain youth subculture. A 50 year old man couldn't credibly identify himself as a member of X current youth subculture, that would be silly, but in theory nothing stops him from appreciating the music as a curious outside observer.

For example, Christgau gave an A to Illmatic even though an old white guy like him certainly couldn't identify with 15 year old niggaz in Brooklyn in a personal sense, but he appreciated the album on its own merits.

But I was 14 during nu metal. I have very little use for that period of music.

>>71822596
holy shit are you me? no memeing

>>71832387
>For example, Christgau gave an A to Illmatic even though an old white guy like him certainly couldn't identify with 15 year old niggaz in Brooklyn in a personal sense, but he appreciated the album on its own merits.
Maybe not, but he does have a certain tribalism about New York artists and oftentimes "gets" them better than he "gets" artists from, say, California..

>>71832467
>>71832387
All music has a certain tribalism to it. Christgau said many of his 60s generation peers "got" punk rock and even a lot of them could "get" 90s alternative bands, but black music in general was beyond them.

>>71832206
I think he means the average suburban minivan dad who never listens to anything but the same 5 artists he liked when he was 14 ad infinitum.

>>71832587
My dad was never that type; even in high school, he listened mostly to classical and was not much into rock.

>>71824243
>but if you somehow think that letting your teenage years define you for literally the rest of your life
It's really pretty stupid to do this and has a lot to do with the entertainment industry's tendency to romanticize the high school years.

>>71832517
>All music has a certain tribalism to it
This white boy board has never been able to appreciate most black music either desu.

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"Most people in the world don't actually like music. Those who do usually become musicians."

>>71814747
>Some people will disagree
>against a study about plebs

Yeah no shit.

>>71824402
>That's where dadrock comes from: dudes blasting Pink Floyd for literally 40 years

Do you think those guys really liked that music or do you think they just wanted to be reminded of being a stoned teenager in a wood paneled basement?

>>71816258
>I was illustrating why music isn't art.
autism: the post

>>71819072
>traditional pop

Trad pop (generally meaning 1930s-40s croonershit) isn't any more or less mature than any other form of music.

>>71824949
>trying to make people older than them look bad to feel better, telling people off for listening to "teen music"

Depends on what you mean by "teen music". There's some bands and artists (for example, most pop punk) that are very explicitly about teenager culture and impossible to appreciate past the age of 15. Like, how the fuck can anyone older than 15 listen to Blink 182?

>>71832827
Take blues. Up to the early 1960s, it was a black music style played on black radio and rarely listened to by whites. But during the hippie era, whites took over blues lock, stock, and barrel. Blacks essentially gave it up and switched to new styles like soul and funk.

The best music is both of its time and transcends it.

>>71814747
shut the fuck up Brandon

>>71814767
naah, i grew to love and eventually exclusively listen to extreme (sludge, death, black etc...) metal age 24/25

>>71814722
>stening to college kid music scene indeh girl music

Full retard

>>71815902

>>71815902

Music is just regressing at this point. The spread of lo-fi indie hipster beta bullshit you all listen to shows that.

>>71834365
music go backwird?? no :((