ITT: Pick an album which you think is flawless and others point

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>>71731394
Well for one it's Pink Floyd.

Specifically Have a Cigar is so damn boring. That song has no hook, and has a really awful wail of "riding the gravy traiiiiiiiinyeah" as a chorus. It's so much worse than the rest of the album it's unimaginable to me that people think on the whole this is the best Floyd record.

Anyway, keeping with prog.

welcome to the machine

not ambient or tone setting enough to an important addition to the atmosphere

not catchy enough to be worth while

really it's only flaw, except maybe have a cigar drags on a bit but still pretty good

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>>71731444
forgot mine

>>71731419
>has no hook
the words of a normifaggot pleb
>awful wail
that line is one of the better parts of that song
so in other words you have shit taste. gotcha.
>genesis
no wonder.

>>71731543
>Pick an album which you think is flawless and others point out its shortcomings
>get defensive when I point out its shortcomings
>doesn't point out the shortcomings of the album I posted because there are none.

Good thread so far OP.

>>71731669

Except I'm OP

>>71731394
It talks about the down side of the music business but doesn't mention that you could put out your own music independently.

It goes out of it's way to kill the hopes and dreams of young musicians. And The Wall is just as bad if not worse for the very same reason.

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>>71731549
It drags in the middle

>>71731684
Well then that guy was one hell of a faggot.

>>71731462
CORPORAL CLEGG
AD A WOODEN LEEEEEG
That's not the flaw
The real flaw is not enough Syd

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>>71731492
hood politics kinda sucks and his flow in general is a little awkward at times throughout, also some of the interludes and little skits are grating, like the mexican maid bit on "u"

hardmode: no mentioning moonchild

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bring it on

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>>71731728
(somethings) and instrumentals aren't necessarily needed, the drone that's held throughout the album gets annoying when you notice it
besides that most of the criticism thrown at this is that it's "whiny" and he sings out of tune but that's subjective (this album isn't even that whiny, AJJ is fucking whiny)

OP, WYWH is one of the most lopsided albums in history, especially for Pink Floyd. "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" is absolutely brilliant and heartwrenching.

Unfortunately, the rest of the album couldn't lived up to SOYCD if it tried, espcially considering how mediocre the rest of the album is.

"Welcome to the Machine" isn't melodic, isn't rich or sophisticated enough, and certainly isn't brilliant in its lyrics or songwriting.

"Have a Cigar" is boring wankery.

"WIsh You Were Here" is an alright campfire song but that's as much as I can say.

The rest of "Shine On" is a good closer but comes off as a lazy effort to close the album. Re-hashing its opening track is just a half-assed with if giving a sense of closure and completion.

I still often call WYWH my favorite Pink Floyd album because of how incredible its best song is (and to be fair, "Shine On" takes up about half of the album). This is largely a recurring problem for Floyd; they write brilliant songs interrupted by pseudo-intellectual filler and audio masturbation.

>>71731729
>no mentioning moonchild
I mean, Moonchild is a piece of shit. Besides that, though, ItCotCK has kind of shit production.

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come at me

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inb4 they didn't write most of the songs. They perfected other people's work, as I see it.

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>>71731689
it doesn't have any particularly memorable melodies or riffs and several of the songs sound pretty similar (ie. going from riffs to batshit tremolo picking and drumming then back again multiple times on several songs, such as Been A Long Time Cousin and City Folk Sitting, Sitting)
that's the best I can do

all the criticism I hear of Sgt Pepper are just that it's not the first album in history to use any of the experimental techniques in it, would love to hear other
>>71731914
that's fair

>>71731971
the melodies and production are somewhat bland compared to other Beatles albums (e.g. Revolver). I don't much like the Beatles for the same reason that I don't find Jessica Alba very attractive; too much perfection leads to blandness and a lack of edge, which leads to a failure to stick out.

>>71731931
1)James LaBrea

2)Boring generic piano songs

>>71731931
The album cover.

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Preferably point out a flaw that isn't strictly poor lyrics, Kanye isn't known for his outstanding lyricism (typically)

>>71731394
edgy ur a part of the machine (with cheesy production)

>>71731549
It peaks very early on

>>71731728
i start bawling when listening to this so i can't listen to this as much as I want to

>>71731729
fuck you i'm mentioning moonchild

>>71731808
The intro to Iron Man feels super cheesy

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dont really think any album is flawless, but heres one I like

>>71731808
Ozzy seriously needed to take singing lessons. His voice often sounded good (e.g. "Fairies Wear Boots") but he had no conception of proper singing technique. His voice almost always sounds extremely nasally and likes he's completely straining his throat (e.g. the beginning lines of "War Pigs", and though from a different album, the heavy "Where can you run to?" part of "Sabbath, Bloody Sabbath"). That's probably why his voice started to sound like horrid cat screeches by the beginning of his solo career. I also think Ozzy is just a hack that has lucked out in associating with phenomenal guitarists.

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>>71732020
>>71731971
>>71731914
>all these plebs think Moonchild is shit

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>>71732020
Rushed production, ends up sounding rough and 10 tracks is a bit disappointing.

>>71732102
>melon

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>>71732130
>

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This masterpiece.

>>71732168
thx

>>71731987
It's not MBV

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>>71732020
compared to the very vertically dense MBDTF yeezus sounds too... simple? for lack of a better word in many places. The soul samples seem kinda forced at this point and don't mesh that well with the instrumentals

I'm in it is a pretty fucking tasteless song to begin with considering it samples what seems to be porn audio, also the jamaican guy isn't really needed. this also has probably the worst lyrics on the entire album, which is saying something

the Caribbean guy on guilt trip ruins the song for me, and also it has especially shit lyrics

Kanye's sampling and use of R&B/Soul vocals on this album in general seems to be an attempt to make up for his own terrible flow and rhymes, and kanye has proven that he can make good, meaningful, or even tender music with 808s as well as parts of LR

send it up also has fucking awful lyrics from kanye, his feature doing so much better than him while still not making anything particularly good (and again with the fucking jamaican)

the music videos for this album also fucking blew dicks

>>71732094
I enjoy ozzy's vocals and think that a more traditional singing style is ultimately not necessary for metal as a genre, but I see your point it does sound strained at times

>>71732207
o c e a n m a n

>>71732234

>implying cause of a meme its not a god-tier surf rock song

K FAMALAMADINGDONG

>>71732249
>implying niggers r gay
take a nap in a pool u silly billy.

>>71732227
His production has aged very well at all. Not to mention how the album gets shitty towards the end.

>>71732218
sister ray isnt longer

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>>71731492
skits are annoying, i get the concept but they didn't help the transition well
>>71731549
there are some really out of place samples near the end of the album, particularly extra kings
>>71731728
mastering is ass on some songs
>>71732020
beat wise it's pretty amazing, some of the lyrics are so fucking bad though

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>>71731394
it had to be posted

>>71731417

For sissies and schoolgirls, very bland and uninteresting, awful album cover that looks like it was made by a woman in her seventies named Doris

>>71731419

Refer to the above, very bland and forgettable. I've read billboards more interesting

>>71731462

DUDE LSD LMAO

>>71731492

The hooks are shitty, most of the theme is corny, the religious aspect is disgusting and the album is pretty boring musically and thematically, also some of the lyrics like "I WENT BOOBOO" are unforgivable

>>71731549

>only memorable due to first song, the rest is trite shit not worth a crap, DUDE SAMPLES LMAO

>>71731728

*Yawn* 2.0

>>71731729

DUDE ONLY ONE OKAY SONG LMAO

>>71731808

Yet again, a one hit wonder album with too much filler and an awful album cover, his voice is grating throughout too

>>71731931
>>71731961

>actually listening to old buttrock made for soccer dads

>>71731971

DUDE ACID LMAO-tier and really really stupid lyrics

>>71731987

>emo kid core for hipsters + vacuum sounds

>>71732020

Edgy black music for white teens, also a copy of death grips but with garbage lyrics and disgusting beats

>>71732128

LOLSPOOKY.jpg this is fucking boring as fuck and made or weird cult members and autistic kids

>>71732207

Made for weird, edgy greasy stoners who have no friends and unironically blast Ocean Man at parties

>>71732209

So fucking bland, awful album art, every song sounds the same-core

>>71732219

So fucking overrated. The theme is shit and contrived cliches, the hooks make me vomit and the singles are pop shit

>>71732227

Poppy mainstream trash with soccer mom rockabilly anthems, forgettable and some of the worst beats ever and LE EDGY lyrics

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>>71732325
Don't get me wrong, I love Pet Sounds, and it's high points are GOAT, but there is a lot of filler. At least 1/3 of the album is meh.

Is it an amazing, genre-defining album? Of course!

Is it flawless? Fuck, no.

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>>71732370

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>>71731394
The title track sucks.
That's all I have to say about it.
>>71731417
Difficult to get into and stick with. Supper Ready feels pretty fragmented to me, musically, not lyrically or sonically.
>>71731419
The Battle of Epping Forest.
>>71731462
The title track (it was better live) and Corporal Clegg. Dodgy production all around, clips everywhere and obviously rushed recording process.
>>71731549
There are extended moments in the album that are directionless and become background noise almost - a lack of distinct melody or musical direction.
>>71731728
lo-fi done badly
whiny voice
>>71731729
Moonchild, unfortunately, breaks up the pace of the album.
>>71731971
Good Morning
The title tracks
Relies far too heavily on George Martin's input.
John's distorted lead guitar is so out of place.
>>71731987
Too many acoustics guitars, lacks memorable melodies, only one or two really stand out tracks.
>>71732218
Production in general, unless you like that thing.
Sister Ray is literally about cops fucks a transvestite.
>>71732227
The beats are always so damn repetitive and boingy in this album. Some of his later shit averts this trope but goddamn this album can get on my nerves.

I want to point out that I love every album I just criticised quite a lot.

>>71731419
>>71731669
You're absolutely correct, fellow Genesisfag. Our albums are literally perfect. Only people who've tried to criticize them are buttmad plebs with zero taste.

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>>71732325

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>>71732469
I can't hear what the sad man is saying.

>No Review/10

>>71732325
I haven't gotten attached to title track or a few of the slow ones near the start not including don't talk. Otherwise a solid 10/10. but with those 9/10

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>>71732442
>Battle of Epping Forest
>bad

>>71732445
precisely

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>>71731419
More Fool Me is not that good. Otherwise no flaws.
>>71731729
Moonchild should be at least 7 minutes shorter.

>>71732319
>bodysnatchers is kind of a joke the lyrics are awful
>15 step is shill and "complicated" to the media/mainstream critics for being in 5/4 wew
>faust arp isn't even there as a song
>weird fishes has not aged well

>>71732514
It is a little vapid/flat. Admittedly, this is a retrospective criticism after Pinkerton/Black Hole/Maladroit. It's as perfect as a first album can be, and more "perfect" than the following albums quoted, but still a bit unpolished.

>>71732529
Their other album was better

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>>71732370
get a load of this contrarian faggot

>>71732572

Nah, that forced-glitchy shit was too much on there. This is easily superior and has better melodies.

>>71732442
Fillers is pretty much the only thing i dislike about this album

>>71732514
They've got the same god damned vocal harmonies on every track, and the album as a whole lacks emotional range.

>>71732590
kill yourself

>>71732508
It's cheesy and overly descriptive and musically doesn't even gel with itself, let alone the rest of the album. The rest of the album has this beautiful flow on effect with sections sliding past each other and sometimes together effortlessly when Epping Forest slams it all in together, changes time sigs for no reason and overall sucks

>>71732183
Generic post-punk with girl singer. Will never be as good as Fever to Tell.

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>>71732576
The fucked jam

>>71732569
A bit overly long imo

>>71732606
I know I might get hate for this but is touched REALLY needed?

>>71732732
Its good but not perfect at all. Too many songs that arent 10/10. A 10/10 song is like, mind blowing. this album isn't.

>>71732763
Kalopsia and Fairweather Friends drag a bit

>>71732319
I really don't like House of Cards

>>71732852
way too FUZZY

>>71732763
Album kind of drags on, needed another My God Is The Sun or two to keep the pace up.

>>71732442
What is wrong with corporal clegg?

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>>71732370

>>71732845
While this is an excellent album most people don't realize that it's merely an updated for the 90s version of Black Sabbath's Paranoid.

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>>71731394
It should've been an EP with just SOYCD, other tracks just feel like filler, WYWH is boring
>>71731462
Poorly produced, all alround lackluster when compared with Pied Piper
>>71731492
Very pretentious and takes itself way to seriously
>>71731549
The parts without music absolutely ruin the flow of the album
>>71731689
Gets boring and not alot of memorable licks, Biblical Violence is fun listen though
>>71731728
Drags along the end
>>71731729
Thanks for telling me not to say the biggest flaw in a "point the albums flaw out" thread faggot
>>71731732
Not fucking heavy enough it feels like Diet Pentastar
>>71731961
Pretty sloppy musicianship and bad production
>>71731971
Boring, like almost every other Beatles album
>>71732020
The glitchy, distorted sound of the entire album sounds like fucking dogshit
>>71732218
Here she comes now i sucks the fun out of the album which is a shame because if it wasn't on the album it would be perfect
>>71732325
He fucked with the formula, also Sloop John B? More like Sleep John B
>>71732442
Frank's voice sounds awful and it just has this whole Forever 21 aesthetic that just sounds and looks awful
>>71732645
Tyler just tries to hard to seem cool and edgy

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>>71732477
There's going to be an asshole who says "Theeeeee Paaaarrrttyyyy" sucks but they also are faggots so...

The only flaw this album has is that sometimes some tracks just can't find the groove or can't funk as hard as they should. Sometimes a track just gets boring or something.

>>71733181
Not sure if you or anyone cares, but it's spelled tthhee ppaarrttyy (each letter twice, easier to remember)

>>71732860
As a huge fan of this album, the only thing I don't like is that some songs are too boring or just drag. Too many of them do it, in fact, but they are still great to listen to, just too boring.

>>71732767
Lizard state is such a high point that all the other songs just seem dull

>>71732514
Sometimes it's really hard to understand what Rivers is saying and he slurs his words (especially on Surf Wax America), Pat's drumming is incredibly basic and boring.

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+ Either/Or

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>>71731394
Shine on should have been uninterrupted
>>71731462
Set the controls and saucerful are both much better live and the album could have been one song longer
>>71731961
They underestimated their psychedelic work

>>71733521
Shit meaningless lyrics, even shittier vocals. A disgrace to the genre.

>>71731961
>"Your Honor, I didn't steal this man's bicycle."
>"See? I put a fresh coat of paint on it. I perfected it."

>>71731971
Unlike Revolver, Sgt Pepper lacks a key ingredient, and that ingredient is live performance chemistry. The album feels rather congested and sluggish compared to Revolver.

>>71733774
(cont.) There is some of that in the basic tracks, but the album was meticulously constructed in the studio on 4-track machines with overdubs, bouncing tracks to make room for more sonic layers.

I think the tedious "work" involved in the creation of the album drags down the spirit of the music a bit, and the fragmented nature of the recording comes through. I didn't understand multi-track recording when I first heard it, but I could tell that Pepper had been recorded differently, it didn't sound like a band album. I was especially confused by the appearance and disappearance of George Harrison on some tracks... dropping-in for a quick riff and then off for a spot of tea.

It is an album of its time and was very ambitious. Unlike SMiLE, it was successfully completed. But to my ears, the ambition stretched the production limitations of the day and ultimately, much of the music sounds like it was constructed piece-by-piece... that's a bit boring on the ears.

>>71732370
Do you even listen to music

>>71731394
intro / outro to shine on is far too long

>>71732756
the piano is off by an 18th note on the third beat of the 32nd measure of the title track

>>71732469
The intro to Shh! can feel too long sometimes. Still 10/10 though

>>71731729
Most of the album just made me wish I was listening to classical music. 21st Century Schizoid Man is great though.

>>71731987
Everything after When The Sun Hits is just average.

>>71731971
suffers from "one track is very clearly superior to the rest" syndrome (Day In The Life)

>>71732218
The Gift is interesting but after listening to it once it kinda loses its interestingness.

>>71732319
Reckoner is overrated.

>>71732450
While the album is mostly good, only a select few tracks stand out and the rest is the unmemorable-but-not-mediocre tier.

>>71732469
2short

>>71732529
Middle drags a bit

>>71732606
The last section of I Only Said could be cut in half with no dip in "its not repetitive, you just need to get lost in the melody maaaannnnn" quality

>>71732690
not as memorable as many would say it is

>>71732756
Wish most of the album was like the title track

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>>71731729
I think moonchild is enjoyable, though I agree it overstays its welcome

>>71734571

>The last section of I Only Said could be cut in half with no dip in "its not repetitive, you just need to get lost in the melody maaaannnnn" quality

Only part I disagree with. That song and ending feel like pure joy. I love it. Listening to that song high feels like getting a blowjob in music form.

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>>71732852
it ends

>>71732227

Without Me and Superman only worked as radio singles back then.

They're shitty and cringey now. Actually a lot of this album doesn't age very well and feels like a product of commercial 2000s.

This is my gripe about a lot of Eminem's music actually. Fantastic rapper but his radio singles ruin his albums from being great. They belong to the 2000s with Smash Mouth

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>>71732838
After three first tracks a lot of tracks drag and are bland, boring and forgettable.

That's What I Get is easily the worst song out of entire NIN's discography

Has the worst lyrics, boring album ender.

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>>71732067
its just so FUCKING boring

>>71732319
one of my favourite albums of all time, but goddamn house of cards is so shitty. it kind of ruins the album

>>71732325
sloop john b is a pile of trash

>>71732370
most of what you said isn't even valid criticism, what the fuck man?

>>71732477
some tracks are total bangers, but i swear to god i cant hum a single melody from that album (the singles dont count)

>>71732514
not as good as pinkerton,,,,

>>71732618
no dreamy melodies :( just RAWK AND STEAMIN SOLOS AND HOT BABES AND FUCKING MONSTER TRUCKS

>>71732690
REALLY forgettable, but still a good album

>>71732763
if i had a tail is kind of bad

>>71732778
joy division - i remember nothing

>>71734597
its just too long, has WAY too much filler
but the good songs are fucking fantastic

>>71731729
Why does everyone hate Moonchild so much???
It's one of my favorite songs on the album and it works as a transition from the slower middle section to the title track.

>>71731394

>>71734342
>implying that doesn't make it better

>>71734342
WTF I HATE STATION TO STATION NOW!

>>71736685
Nothing wrong with that album. Still listen to it to this day and it never gets old.

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>>71732711
Pyramids is hella boring

>>71734342
>18th note
what? Do you mean a 16th?

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lets hear it then

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>>71732845

>>71735356
>Removes solitude

>>71733477
You have to be on some kind of drug or doing something else whilst listening to this to not get fucking bored at some parts.
It seriously suffers from Brothersport syndrome. In a way it sort of lends itself to the album though, because after it's done repeating the same lyrics and melodies for three minutes they do something interesting that makes every change extra unique. Comfy in Nautica is redundant.
Love the album though

>>71731914
I love moonchild. Its a classic prog rock sweet song. Flute playing is spot on.

>>71731394
I'm going to get a lot of hate but I can do with shine on pt 1 and 2. If it wasn't for that. I think it would be the greatest ep ever made.

>>71732370
>Yet again, a one hit wonder album with too much filler
I don't care that it's b8, this is the most pleb thing ever posted on this board

>>71738010
Side A was concept album. Why can't side B be concept album too?

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>>71738151
beats me.

>>71738087
I love this album. It's subject matter is repetitive but very honest. My favorite line from this album is "Wake up young man, its time to wake up. Your love affair has got to go." on the first track. The album really makes me reflect on myself and my own personal problems with addiction. Great choice.

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gives me flashbacks of better times

>in b4 "it's boring"

>>71738037
no I looked at the song through an oscilloscope and spectrum analyzer ot's definitely 1/18th of a note; this scope is pretty accurate