ITT: Poseur red flags >uses rym >uses lastfm >has ever

>talentless
what does this actually mean

>>71690750
adjective
having no natural aptitude or skill.
"the ponderous ravings of a talentless hack"

The residents and le japan noise rock are just fine examples of that. talentless with gimmicks and pretty images.

>>71690734
>uses any music site for the social factor/interacts with the "community" in any way
So.. what you're doing right now?

>>71690778
You must be new here.

>>71690828
Mods always delete starter pack threads. Stop

>"Oh, I'm super into music"
>only listens to Merzbow, Boredoms, Gerogerigegege, Coil, Throbbing Gristle, Whitehouse, Nurse with Wound, Einstürzende Neubauten, Brainbombs, Egor Letov, Death in June, Current 93, La Monte Young, Moondog, Lou Harrison, Henry Cowell, Luigi Russolo, Popol Vuh, Fishmans, Jean Jacques Perrey, Les Rallizes Dénudés, Rainbow Caroliner, Taj Mahal Travellers, Fushitsusha, DNA, Peter Brötzmann, John Cage, Scott Walker, Unwound, Dead, Frank Zappa, Morton Feldman, Captain Beefheart, Pharoah Sanders, Albert Ayler, Ornette Coleman, Alice Coltrane, Arnold Schoenberg, Pierre Boulez, György Ligeti, Karlheinz Stockhausen, Nang Nang, Haruomi Hosono, Thinking Fellers Union Local 282, Nara Leão, Basic Channel, Raymond Scott, Delia Derbyshire, Daphne Oram, Noah Howard, Terry Riley, Peter Sotos, Lula Côrtes e Zé Ramalho, Boyd Rice, Mahmoud Ahmed, Henry Flynt, Kazumoto Endo, David Tudor, Aporea, Half Japanese, Mega Banton, Secret Chiefs 3, Keiji Haino, Ramleh, Otomo Yoshihide, John Zorn, Joe Meek, Robbie Basho, Phil Spector, Faxed Head, Harry Partch, Frances Baskerville, Wesley Willis, Fred Frith, The Residents, Sun Ra, Sun City Girls, Hans Krüsi, Royal Trux, Jandek, Yat-Kha, Loren Mazzacane Connors, Pärson Sound, The Dead C, Comus, Cromagnon, Eliane Radigue, Arthur Doyle, Shizuka, The Red Krayola, Henry Cow, Magma, Opus Avantra, Pan.Thy.Monium., Murmuüre, Ksiezyc, Gong, Cukor Bila Smert', cLOUDDEAD, Muslimgauze or Kaoru Abe

>>71690914
All the more reason to keep going.
A thread died for this.

>>71690962
> No one's allowed to like anything unless it fits into what bullshit ideals I have to feel superior to others because of my massive insecurities with myself and the things I enjoy

>>71691095
damn

You forgot
>is hopelessly obsessed with the actions of others

>still collects vinyl in 2017
I'll stop collecting vinyl when
1. It's no longer the superior way to hear music
2. Artistis stop releasing vinyl records

>>71690962
>"Oh, Im super into music"
>listens to massively significant musicians

Wow, gee...

>>71691152
But thats dumb

>>71691152
Poseur pleb. Probably boring to talk to.

>>71691120
>child toucher thinks his opinion matters

>>71691276
Welcome back Montie.

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>Excuse me but is anyone else here into Javanese gamelan music? Balinese perhaps? Also does anyone has some trad music cassettes they're willing to trade?
>Ahh yes I'm into classical.. No! No! Not Mozart! I'm into more of the avant-garde. Lugi Russolo, La Monte Young, Meredith Monk, I could go on......
>What do you mean Albert Ayler is just noise?!?!? You just don't get it, you uneducated pleb!!
>Of course I don't play an instrument. I prefer to do "deep listening" instead. You should read up on it sometimes.

>>71691430
who is this thing

>>71691476
Anti-warhol aka The King of Cultural Tourism aka The Lord of Poseurdom

>>71691276
>Accuses people of doing horrible things because of his /mu/ lore
>Has no proof of anything and expects people to believe it
This is why people think you're a tryhard.

>>71691496
>Anti-warhol
I hate this guy already from his profile pictures alone

>>71690734
To have such a grasp on these things you yourself must have been a poseur at one time.

>>71691496
wtf is cultural tourism

>>71690962
Uhhh so what do you think people should listen to?

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>>71691558
Only two things on that list ever applied to me.

It's just basically something I've noticed after lurking for a few years. You pick it up in the first few months, I assume most grow out of it afterwards and move on to something new and develop further, others settle in that shit and never leave. In time your average basic /mu/tant described in that list is more basic and uninteresting than a top 40 fan.

>>71691574
something with which there is nothing wrong

>>71691574
You know those RYM accounts with a shit ton of ratings of world music

Something like that

>>71691625
>your average basic /mu/tant described in that list is more basic and uninteresting than a top 40 fan
only because you never get out of /mu/

>>71691666
and what's wrong with that?

>>71691666
These are the worst. Especially when they rate them, what the fuck you emberassing tryhard

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>>71691699
Its insincere

Its about pasty face teens from the suburb who never been out of the city limits before using brown people's cultures to boost their egos

>>71691744
So I should only listen to music released by people within my own culture? Seems needlessly limited.

>>71691667
No, it's just they have absolutely no unique taste.

You ask a /mu/tant for a rec or some music question, they'll give you a very pretty response which if you actually look into yourself, will realize it's just taken from the first three paragraphs of the wikipedia article on the matter. For music recs, it's ALWAYS something that's positively rated on RYM/critically received. There's literally no substance or unique opinion to it.

>>71691751
how is it insincere?
>Its about pasty face teens from the suburb who never been out of the city limits before using brown people's cultures to boost their egos
or maybe they like it?

>>71691772
You feel the need to ask permission/validation from an anonymous stranger to like something. come on man. people like you make up 99% of RYM which is why the community is pure cancer.

>>71691809
Are you fucking retarded? It was a rhetorical question to point out how stupid he was being. Pull your head out of your ass and stop looking for conflict.

>>71691751
there's nothing wrong with it if you at least like some of the stuff

if you have dozens of pretty ratings letting everyone know you, yes in fact, listened to shit form every country or culture, then yeah you're a lame poseur. the only way to be 100% sure of it, if you were to take away any platform which lets you tell everyone about how you supposedly listen to that stuff, would you still do it?

>>71690734
what if i
>use rym to explore genres / discographies
>use lastfm
>make charts to get recs
>play 3 instruments
>collect vinyl but stray away from colored shit and bad represses you can find used

>>71690962
What does it say about your taste when much of that list is too challenging for you?

>>71691784
It's almost like things are popular for a reason..

idk how much music you have but once you have over arbitrary number let's say 1000 albums digitally and a couple hundred cds it gets really hard to keep track of everything in your collection, what you've listened to and what you haven't, what you're planning to listen to, upcoming releases. RYM and last.fm are great resources for this. It pretty much just shows you care about keeping up with music, otherwise you have to follow dozens of music news sites which have editorial concerns that mean they can't report on everything objectively

>>71691784
yeah because they're shut-ins so they get their opinions from the internet, where they become ingrained in some social circle which ends up as the main influence on their perspective because that's just what people in groups do

>>71691835
What do ratings have to do with anything? If someone likes something they like it, not everyone uses music as a way to show their individuality.

>>71691824
sure it was. I got you senpai


>>71691879
what a toxic and sheltered outlook. you ever talk to any "basic" person, ever? they have unique opinions on "Generic" things. /mu/tants and 4chan, the other way around.

>>71691841
You do you.

>>71691911
>not everyone uses music as a way to show their individuality.
Wishful thinking. 99% of RYM does. Notice how most rym/lastfm users are either average or below average in looks? If they were better looking, they'd be shilling themselves on facebook or instagram for likes. they lack that, so they individualize themselves in different ways.

>>71691095
RIP good thread

>uses rym
Check
>uses lastfm
Not anymore
>has ever made a chart
Check
>uses any music site for the social factor/interacts with the "community" in any way
check
>can't play an instrument but has thousands of ratings on his pretty profile
Piano
>can't play an instrument
Again, I play the piano
>started collecting vinyl after 2007
Never collected
>still collects vinyl in 2017
See above
>likes talentless garbage like the residents and les ranillez dememe
"Your band sucks lol"
>posts in /daily/ or /chart/
Nope
>watches crosley vinyl videos on youtube and feels superior
Who?

So not a poseur, phew.

>>71691942
In what way does someones looks have to deal with their musical tastes? And how they rate an album on some stupid website? People usually like things or they don't.

>>71691751
you know about that ego thing, generally i believe there's no 100% true sincerity, there's always an ulterior motive to everything, or even various ones, even ones you might not be aware of, because people are a multitude of different motivations
the urge to boost your ego for the sake of self-acceptance and for approval are "sincere", they are true, you can't do much about that, you'll find it in yourself, the only option is you'll have to learn to accept that, so you'll learn to accept others
but deep down you don't want to do that at all, you just wanna keep feeling righteous on 4chan, right?

>>71691913
>you ever talk to any "basic" person, ever? they have unique opinions on "Generic" things.
you mean normies? yeah because their social circle is more open i guess. i don't see the value in "unique" special snowflake opinions on trivial matters though. a lot of the time a "unique" opinion is just an uneducated one anyways

>>71692013
How about I beat the shit out of you and leave you for dead?

>>71692110
>lost the argument

>>71690734
Lmao you sound insecure
>you can't critique music if you aren't a musician
Yeah and you can't critique food if you are not a chef or movies if you haven't made a movie

>they pride themselves on listening to obscure music
>they think they're better than everyone on this board because they dont listen to /mu/core

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>meet up with some friends at our uni's philosophy club
>afterwards we decide to smoke some weed
>annoying guy from the club decides to tag along without anyone inviting him
>I want to tell him to fuck off but he's friend of a friend so I can't
>we smoke and he doesn't offer to throw in or anything
>afterwards he says "You know what I could really listen to right now? 'Music for 18 Musicians', you guys ever heard of it?" hoping to impress us
>the look on his face when we all say we have
>mfw he's pretending to think Steve Reich is good weed smoking music because he's 2deep4us

People who listen to popular music only listen to music to be part of a conversation, see for example the celebrity worship of popular musicians. The celebration of their characters at the expense of their music shows that their fans aren't really there for the music. So they're no different from internet users who get all of their opinions from online music communities. They're doing the exact same thing, on a different level, one that you could say is lower or you could say is deeper

>>71692248
you're using too big words

dumb it down for me

>>71692277
black man do dis, white guy do dat

>>71692221
He was trying to find common ground and impress y'all, how intense is your aspergers?

>>71692289
smdh

>>71692221
he might have heard of it through trump. thats pretty epic story anon

>>71692248
how would it be deeper?

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>>71692131
>>you can't critique music if you aren't a musician
Never said that.

Your opinion matters alot less though. Not to mention you just come as a petty talentless consumer. There's nothing separating the average RYM poseur from a top 40 fan in terms of talent, creativity, or any of that shit of substance.

>>71692221
A poseur judged another poseur. Whew

>>71692076
>a lot of the time a "unique" opinion is just an uneducated one anyways
Spoken like a souless socialist.

>>71692367
>I never said that
But you did.

>>71692314
more intricate, more detailed. knowing a lot more raw info for example in a community where having lots of useless knowledge is seen as cool

>>71692380
Quote me in OP desu

>>71692171
>they're better than everyone on this board because they dont listen to /mu/core
arguably listening to obscure music is better as in more useful to /mu/ as a tool for discovery and discussion too as it gives you a wider frame of reference as to what really stands out from what
i don't think anyone ever claimed to be a better person for it
at most they just see it as new people stepping into their in-group, only picking out the most popular and obvious stuff, but still claiming to be a part of it
sort of like gentrification

>>71692402
bitch!

>>71692367
>Spoken like a souless socialist.
so you don't have a counterpoint? okay then, guess i won.

>>71692297
>>71692312
>>71692367
his favorite movie is Waking Life too and he got mad when I said it was shitty

>>71692221
>philosophy uni club
>smokes weed
>listens to philip glass tier shit

wow, you sound like a token douchebag i would never want to speak with

>>71692413
>>71692110
samefag

>>71690962
literally me

>>71692221
>le philosophy weed smoker that judges other people meme

What is it like, being a walking, breathing caricature?

>>71692432
Then you were intentionally being a douchebag. Great job.

>>71692438
heh heh wrong :P

>>71691843
That post is hiding under multiple layers of irony

>>71692501
they hated jesus because he told them the truth.

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>>71692438
heh heh wrong again :P

>>71692432
>>71692221

people you like are that cliche everyone hates but has in mind when you tell anyone you like some philosophy

you make us all look bad

>dude weed on top of that

Oh my god. This is too much

>>71692432
>judging musical taste irl and not just agreeing with people

Autism

>>71692436
>>71692467
>>71692548
When did being a straight edge faggot become so trendy? Philosophy also deserves to be a bit hated imo because literally every philosophy major I know is super autistic

>>71692589
>When did being a straight edge faggot become so trendy?
It's not that. It's just how big of a cliche can you get? You go to philosophy clubs, smoke weed after, and judge people in the process. You're a walking meme.

>>71692627
where's the problem though? are you the same anon who complained that people on /mu/ aren't all special snowflakes? >>71691784
come on there's pigeonholes for literally everyone and everything, even you

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>>71690734
Very good last, I approve only because I don't fit into any of those descriptions

>>71692669
Maybe I wouldn't mind if you didn't go and feel superior in the process.. There's something so hateable about someone that's basic (like you) that still feels superior enough to go and judge others condescendingly (also you)

>>71692627
I only mentioned it because it's important to the story, pleb. Steve Reich is really good but if you make your friends listen to him after smoking weed then you're a tool. Also, had to mention philosophy club because it establishes the logic behind why this annoying person would even be with us. Also, because we watched 'Waking Life' in it on his suggestion, and it fucking sucked and I was really mad about it.

>>71692757
Don't get defensive. you're just a faggot. the only cure is a noose to the neck.

>>71692887
>>71692627
>>71692548
lol all these anons got triggered because they would be the guy who would put on steve reich after they smoked weed with some people

>>71692919
At least put on the superior work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0WVh1D0N50

>>71692919
Pretty sure they're more triggered at the fact that the philosophy weed smoker cliche still exists in 2017

>>71693099
I have literally never heard of the "cliche philosophy weed smoker" ever in my life

Is that some kind of human meme I'm not familiar with?

I'm familiar with the philosophical weed smoker, but not the philosophy major weed smoker

>started collecting vinyl after 2007
>still collects vinyl in 2017

only thing on that list i do guess i'm safe

>>71690734
>uses rym
>has ever made a chart
>uses any music site for the social factor/interacts with the "community" in any way
>can't play an instrument
>started collecting vinyl after 2007
>still collects vinyl in 2017
>likes talentless garbage like the residents and les ranillez dememe
oh no

>>71693790
Why do you even care? Why have some dickhead on here dictate what you do with your time and money?

>>71693805
dont fall for this dumbass meme
like what you like do what you do and not give a fuck

>>71690734
i watch crosley vinly videos for indie qts like any sane person

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>>71693471
>philosophy major

I assume feeling superior to others is the only thing that brings joy to your miserable existence otherwise then.

>>71691751
AW is native american though, you just posted his face you i'm pretty sure you know he's not "pasty white" ... nice dishonesty