What are some modern albums that you think will go down as classics

Death Grips is going to be looked back upon as the most important artist of the 2010s

Swans for their mallgoth revival

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future dadrock classic coming through

>>71628442
word

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>>71628442
lol

>>71628673
Top kek

>>71628276
Will be forgotten in 15 years

>>71628229
probably
>>71628276
I could see this, its highly regarded and Kendrick has both normie and music nerd fans in lack of a better way of wording that. I personally think it's a bit overrated, but I could see this being remembered as a classic hip hop album from it's time period.
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As much as I enjoy these, probably not. Especially Atlas & Hospice. TLOP stands a chance though, but likely if any Kanye album will be remembered as a classic it will be MBDTF.
>>71628250
If anything it'll be momcore from tumblr girls who had children.
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>>71628708
nice memes

>>71628229
Not this, that's for sure.

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anyone who says otherwise is dumb..

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Definitely not the the best album to have been released this decade, but it seems to have a timeless quality to me that might ensure at least some listening in perhaps 20 years.

Yellow House, Have one On Me, Teen Dream, Innerspeaker, Public Strain, Diamond Mine, Ashes Grammar... the list can go on

>>71630445
It's almost ten years old at this point and people are still recommending it and talking about it.
I don't know about "classic" but its gonna stick around.

>>71630251
MBDTF is already a classic
Yeezus is the other one that's going to be remembered fondly as well

>>71630550
Already a landmark album

>>71628229
It doesn't hold up to his older stuff and is so self referential it hurts. It'll be a bookmark in his discog of his death and nothing more.
Like can you imagine some pleb recommending or writing about this album the same way someone would about Ziggy Stardust, Station, Low or Heroes? I don't want to live in a world where that happens.

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These are just awful, I'm not even opposed to considering Good Kid mad city as a classic somewhere down the line but the politics of Butterfly will date it like milk.

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>>71628229
I think this too, especially in the uk.

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>>71628229
Just yes

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>>71628229

Travis will probably never come close to releasing anything this good again though.

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yes

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no

>>71630822
I thought Birds was great fuck you

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Its on Its Way to being a Classic But theres still a long Way to go

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unironically

808&Heartbreak

the war on drugs - lost in the dream

>>71628286
This.

>>71630917
Haha great Post Well memed my Friend

None of them because we now live in an era where consumer culture has made cultural nostalgia moot and it's been this way since the mid 90s.

>>71630906
Glad you enjoyed it, it sounded like pee pee and poo poo to me friend.

>>71630917
>Can't even stand on its own two feet for nearly twenty years without someone holding it up as a meme or a lost gem

>>71630991
I have lots of dat XD meme

>>71631037
Feel like you arn't going with the meme hehe XD

>>71630630

Good =/= Classic. Blackstar's timing near his death combined with the relatively out there (for Bowie) musical style of the album (mainly just Blackstar and Lazarus) means that it'll be hard to forget.

And TPAB is going to be remembered BECAUSE of its politics, not despite them. Period pieces have a tendency of sticking around.

GKMD will likely be remembered as well, though more as a contrarian option for the next generation of /mu/tants, kind of like Animals for Pink Floyd.

>>71631089
Even if the politics or subject matter on TPAB were irrelevant, the album is just really well done and doesn't have a bad song. Especially when you look at it in the scope of other hip hop albums, TPAB shits on most any other full length albums in hip hop in recent memory.

>>71630917
simply Epic......

>>71631150
That's debatable. What isn't debatable is that it came out with a fuckton of hype, to mass normie recognition and critical acclaim, and that's really all you need to be a "classic".

It certainly won't be seen as influential.

>>71631150
>doesn't have a bad song
*deletes Mortal Man*

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Yes

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>>71630840
Nope

>>71631199
retard

>>71631089
>Good =/= Classic
Yeah it kind of does because the only reason you have classic albums is because people have kept listening to them and talking about them well past the day they were released.
You can pretend that Blackstar holds up as well as Bowie's old stuff but you know its not true. It'll be remembered and talked about in Bowie's circle of fans and that's great but it doesn't make a classic.

>Period pieces have a tendency of sticking around.
Not in pop music. Every political album ever made that is still recommended because of its musical achievements despite its politics

>though more as a contrarian option for the next generation of /mu/tants
lol fucking hell dude, GKMC will be remembered because it resonates with black kids so much not because of "future /mu/tants"
TPAB is this big dumb album lyrically because it lacks emotional nuance that GKMC has and because of that despite whatever musical accomplishments it has of just being a better than average album it'll isolate future music fans.

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>>71630822
I'm fucking loving birds rn it's a great album imo

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>>71630445
Hopefully

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>>71630478
doubt

>>71630382
This thing is easily the most under looked julien casablancas involved project and for damn good reason

>>71628286
Yes. If the keep releasing more in the 2020s (fucking doubt it, Zach is already 39) they have a chance for both decades

>>71631377
That implies that people only like good albums, or that people have similar taste, or that all great albums become classics. I'd argue that a lot of staples of /mu/core will never become classics, not because they aren't fantastic but because they'll never be popular enough.

I consider classics stuff like White Album or Dark Side of the Moon, shit that normies recognize and critics agknowledge is pretty good. Within, say, rock elitists you might say that Trout Mask Replica is a classic, but only because more people in those subcircles recognize Beefheart's work.

TPAB isn't the greatest of the decade. But it was popular, and it was good enough. Unlike GKMD it really doesn't sound like any other big name hip hop album released that year, which is a huge plus in its favor.

>>71631199
are you fucking missing a chromosome

>>71631129
Greatest hip hop artist this generation has ever seen

>>71631622
To me the definition of a classic album is one that is well liked by the consensus and is talked about well after its release.
However for that to happen it also needs to be able resonate across generations by standing the test of time. I can see GKMD being talked and recommended in the future because of how it portrays the struggles and pressures of being a black kid which is probably a struggle that's going to continue well into the future.

TBAP on the other hand was a big album because there weren't a lot of albums at the time addressing the current events and politics that were happening in black communities at the time and because of that it had an emotional resonance at the time.
The further we get away from "at the time" though, the more those emotions become dulled and we forget things and "time heals all wounds". But as well as that the next generation won't even have those memories.

There's also another reason, I don't want to compare TBAP to 9/11 songs (because its not fucking awful like them) but 9/11 country songs made tonnes of money at the time because of how they resonated with the fears and bewilderment of people who felt lost after the attacks. Those songs are just historic landmarks now. No one listens to them and its not just because of how politically charged they are. It's because of how those songs remind people of a time when they felt insecure, lost and unsure about the world around them.

Those threads where people post albums that are ruined for them because they remind them too strongly of an emotional low point in their lives are those songs times a million. I don't know if TPAB will be remembered like that for everyone but I can imagine quite a few people feeling that way about it in the future.

>>71632139
btw I do realise that some of that contradicts itself but I feel like its one of those "different folks, different strokes" kind of things where the importance and relevance of an album to you depends on where you were at at the time of its release.

Your response to music you discover is always affected by where you were at at the time of its release and that's like doubly so for music that is politically charged.
I imagine there are a lot of people who loved those 9/11 songs who are embarrassed by them now.

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>>71630840
you mean

>>71632282
I can see it.

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>>71631129
yes

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maybe

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no

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>>71628708
definitely not

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Its crossover status will propel it to the top of many future best of lists.

>>71632795
no

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no

>>71630777
nice trips

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>>71631622
nice dubs

>>71632795
Nah. Funeral's the only classic Arcade Fire's made, and it's debatable as to whether they still have it in them to make another. Neon Bible, Suburbs, and even Reflektor all had that potential, but just that.

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>>71632282
THIS ONE YOU PLEBS

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hate it all you want, it's still true.

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I think people underestimate how influential this album, and CC's stuff in general, was.

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>>71634629
If these two albums weren't already considered classics, they will be in the future.

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>>71628229
yes
>>71628250
no
>>71628276
yes
>>71628286
ehhhhh one of but not necessarily the most important
>>71628305
no
>>71628337
no
>>71628357
no but interesting
>>71628442
probably for normies
>>71630382
cult classic
>>71630445
no
>>71630515
no
>>71630550
yes
>>71630674
I hope so
>>71630822
no
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yes
>>71630917
meh
>>71630927
maybe
>>71631129
yes
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no
>>71632795
for normies
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no
>>71633010
maybe
>>71633213
for normies
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>>71634642
yeah probably
>>71634635
no

>>71634758
>posts liturgy
>dares to rate others' posts

>>71634635
Definite cult classic. In the same vein as IDLSIDGO.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdFoHdAIOQE

>>71634808
came here to post this

you know it to be true you fucking fagbois

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Still the greatest summer album ever

>>71630630
>retard using name field
never change /mu/

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Is this considered a classic yet?

>>71635386
If the cover didn't seem so narcissistic towards the band and more aesthetically inclined /mu/ would probably say it was genius.

It's a good album nevertheless.

>>71635581
Most of Bowie's albums are just different pictures of his own face, yet /mu/ seems pretty pro-Bowie. Although I do agree Bowie's are generally more "aesthetically inclined".

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I think it'll be more a cult classic

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>>71631150
TBAP isnt even that political. I don't feel like Kendrick is pushing an agenda, he's just talking about personal and anecdotal experience. He never goes on any "Fuck Whitey" tirades and I think you guys exaggerate the politics of this album

>>71630630
>the politics of Butterfly will date it like milk.
Yeah, that's why Nina Simone, Bob Dylan, etc. are just so dated and non-classics. If anything being political makes an album more likely to become a classic.

>>71635779
Yeah, I just listened through the whole thing yesterday asking myself this question, and he does use the proverbial "fuck whities" a few times, but its never an agenda, its a cultural heritage/ anecdotal experience that he is reflecting upon.

>>71630515
This.

>>71630251
i'd still fuck those tumblr moms

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>>71630674
A cult classic. Or at least I hope so.
>>71630822
Nah, if any trap album becomes a classic (I don't think so) it will be Imperial.
>>71630445
I don't get the appeal. I don't think so.
>>71630927
I'm kinda sure about this one.
>>71630917
Sure, why not?
>>71632981
No. If anything The Seer but even so I don't think so.
>>71633213
It's an ok album but no.
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>>71634629
Yeah, I don't even like them too much but yeah.
>>71634758
Yeaaaaah, no.
>>71634808
Yeah, I'm sure. Though not my favorite from them.

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painstakingly remaking maggot brain will surely pay off, right?

>>71630630
i'm on the fence with 'butterfly' because it's production musically holds the album back because of the old school jazz funk. other than that the subject matter will sadly be timeless.

>>71635779
Are you sure? Alright, The Blacker The Berry and Wesleys Theory are definitely songs with political messages. And while he never says "fuck white people" he does sometimes say something questionable
> blue eyed devil with a fatass monkey
>monkey mouthed mother fucker
> etc

>>71636256
ayy gambinlmao

>>71635856
>Nina Simone
2bh you just kind of proved my point with that one, ask anyone to name a Nina Simone album/song they'll most likely list a song or name I put a spell on you, Pastel Blues or Billie sings the blues
To be young black and gifted has broad appeal and a wide enough message to be enjoyed today but who the fuck is listening to Goddamn Mississippi day to day?

>Bob Dylan
Dylan was a clever and talented enough writer that he could encode a political message into songs that sounded so general.
You could easily listen to Blowin in the Wind your entire life and not know that the message pertains to the civil rights movement because the song is so steeped in broad philosophical questions
It resonates on a deeper level than just "hey racism is a bad thing" because the language and questions it uses and asks are so broad that they can be applied to anyone

Same thing for A Change is Gonna Come, these are all so broad that they can resonate with anyone going through hardship

There are anomalies, A Nation of Millions and Fear come to mind but they're considered classics because the music was so different from any other hip-hop at the time and it was the first time rappers talked about how frustrated and angry they felt

Also as an aside I feel like aggressiveness/anger is easily the most broad emotion that an artist can capture when done right, its why people still find Public Enemy so visceral and its why despite how petty some of what Kanye says on Yeezus is, you still kind of buy into his anger.

Is TPAB the update on Nation and Fear though?
its not visceral enough and who cares we already have a Nation

>>71636818
I'm not making an argument for or against TPAB. All I'm saying is that music being political lyrically doesn't exclude it from being considered a classic. Not at all.

If political music isn't a classic, it's not because it's political. It's because the music doesn't stand the test of time.

If the lyrics pertain to petty/small/short-term pop culture references, then it dates because no one in the future will get the references. But if it's about a significant enough cultural event/phenomenon, and especially if it directly influences that culture, then that album itself becomes part of cultural history. That promotes the label of "classic".

For example, Straight Outta Compton is a pretty meh album, I'd argue plain bad, and has sonically dated terribly. But it's a culturally significant album, and because of that plenty of people would consider it a classic. If that album wasn't political no one would remember it today.

>>71637075
>If that album wasn't political no one would remember it today.
I disagree because I think a lot of the reason its still a classic is for similar reasons it takes a nation is.

>then that album itself becomes part of cultural history. That promotes the label of "classic".
I think you stumbled upon a subtle difference between the two and the mistake is considering an album classic because of its cultural/historical significance at the time.
I don't think that's what qualifies as a classic album, its a historically significant one sure but there are movies, paintings and works of fiction that are historically significant but aren't considered classical works.

I'm stretching for an example here but Gone with the Wind was once the biggest and most successful movie in hollywood history but as time goes on we see more and more of its flaws and its generally considered to be a very average movie now.
But does its historical importance make it a classic movie? No because nobody likes gone with the wind. And that's what elevates Casablanca above Gone with the Wind

>>71628250
This but unironically, the rockists will die off eventually

>>71630445
I came here to post this.

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>not including the modern orchestral genre

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Am I right my mulattos?

>>71637348
>I disagree because I think a lot of the reason its still a classic is for similar reasons it takes a nation is.
Why do you disagree? I've never listened to it takes a nation, so don't know what makes it a classic.

>considering an album classic because of its cultural/historical significance at the time.
Obviously not solely, that was never my argument. My only argument was that being political doesn't necessarily make an album date worse, and in some cases even make it more likely to be considered classic.

You said you think TPAB will age terribly because it's political. But that obviously just isn't true, because there's tons of politically charged music that aged well and is considered classic. If TPAB ages terribly it'll be because the music itself doesn't holdup, not because the concept and some of the lyrics are political.

>>71637515
This
>butting in
I personally like TPAB because it strings together multiple takes on a single genre by combining similar musical styles
There were features that ranged from George Clinton to thundercat and the isley's (I'm pretty sure they used an isley brothers riff in a few of the songs) and it brought together a lot of west coast icons especially from the greater los Angeles area hip-hop scene
If hip-hop as a music genre survives the test of time there is no doubt in my mind that this album will serve as its saving grace

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>>71637348
Why does music have to be about politics
I don't contemplate whether or not miles Davis agrees with my political ideology
His shit just gets me

>>71637671
Holy fuck, it doesn't have to be. Who here said "music has to be about politics"? Show me.

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>Not including the only album that will actually be considered classic

>>71637714
Then why are you pissing yourself trying to prove that it isn't

>>71637738
>prove that it isn't
Prove that what isn't what?

>>71637515
>I've never listened to it takes a nation, so don't know what makes it a classic.
see >>71636818
>because the music itself doesn't holdup, not because the concept and some of the lyrics are political.
That is the other half of it for me, TPAB is nothing exceptional musically and GKMC just happens to be on the same musical ground but its narrative won't alienate future listeners and it'll probably resonate a lot more with black kids in the future.
In that scenario, I think if any of his albums become heralded as classics, it'll be GKMC.

There's no doubt that you can have a politically charged album that's so groundbreaking musically that it becomes a classic despite alienating future listeners lyrically (again It takes a nation is a great example of this) but if it isn't to that standard even musically why would anyone keep coming back to it?

>>71637671
There's also this element, like if you don't agree with the politics of the artist why would you listen to their music? That's another form of alienation but I guess you can make the same argument for all art - its just that politics can be that diversive.

Also I'm going to go ahead and post my favourite what I like to call "political disaster song"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaO4XeHhwo8

>>71637751
That you isn't cuck
My bad

>>71637754
>like if you don't agree with the politics of the artist why would you listen to their music?
Like, I don't know, like, maybe I like just enjoy listening to music for enjoyment and not,like because I'm an edgy super modern political warrior idk like maybe XD

>>71637831
Drunk patty's day bait

>>71637831
>Like, I don't know, like, maybe I like
funny
>I'm an edgy super modern political warrior idk like maybe XD
lost it

I'm going to bed after that retarded post
Best discussion I've had on here for a while though guys

Royksopp is a field mine.

To this day I hear songs, b sides if you will... they are glorious.

>>71637754
So you think politically charged music runs the risk of alienating future audiences? I assume you either mean that they won't understand the references/politics of the time or they disagree with the politics. If the music is about something culturally significant enough, then the listener should go in understanding the political context. Then whether they disagree with it depends on what direction political consensus heads to in the future.

For example, no one's going to listen to Nina Simone's cover of "strange fruit" and be alienated by its politics, because everyone understands what it's about and no one's going to disagree with the sentiment "we shouldn't hang people for the colour of their skin".

>>71628276
Listened to this last night
It was pretty good, but it didn't really live up to my expectations.
I enjoyed the old-school yet modern style, Kendrick has good flow, and the bit at the end with Tupac was neat. Nothing really stood out as astounding though
Not really a classic imo

>>71632981
Swans are too experimental to have classics

>>71637724
This

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>>71637972
Same reason this will always be shit.

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yes

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>>71637724
They already are.

>>71631020
You're probably right. I hope you aren't.

>>71635754
I wish.

>>71628294
what in public castration did he mean by this

>>71636256
Everyone knows parliment/Funkadelic was his influence calling it a rip off doesn't make you seem smart

>>71638756
we live in an echo-chamber where it's plausible to assume all /mu/core will be remembered by the world as classics

>>71638986
99% of the world doesn't care what is considered classic. People just like what they like, and love what they liked in their youth. The rankings of autistic music nerds is completely irrelevant.

>>71639032
also this. most people like music only passingly and its foolish to assume that any of the popular albums on here matter

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This will become a cult album of sorts. kinda like how kids cream over Deltron 3030 now.

>>71635386
It'll always be a classic to me

>>71630917
If you honestly don't think ITAOTS will be regardled as one of the top 50 albums in history you're retarded.

>>71639061
Haha noooo.

Downward and Fragile are already classics. If anything past that is going to be considered a classic int he future, it'll either be his next record or maybe Hesitation Marks as a cult classic.

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This right here

>>71628305
I like this but nah man

I wonder what my album will be remembered as? How will my impact on music and my movement will be remembered?

Why is this happening? Why the fuck me?
>>71639061
Fuck man NIN too? Why are they doing this? Why am I the obsession of the world?

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>>71637724
probably, for good or for worse