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Is R Plus Seven the most groundbreaking album of the past decades?

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Is R Plus Seven the most groundbreaking album of the past decades?
Will we be studying it and hailing it as a fine achievement in modern music?
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yes
yes
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>>71610369
lol
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1 good song
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>>71610369
Name 5 classical composers currently writing music today that you have listened to and appreciate.
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>>71610369
no its not that good tbqh
has some great ideas tho
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>>71610389
>Name 5 classical composers currently writing music
technically no music made in this time period can be considered classical.

so thay really only leaves Mozart
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>>71610389
your mom lol
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I love it. It's really unique and conceptual, and as far as I'd analyse electronic stuff, I'd study it. I think most people who don't like it realise (rightly) that the songs aren't 'songs', they're studies in tone and harmony.
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>>71610389
I rather not
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>>71610386
Every song on it is great and well-written.
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>>71610447
I don't agree. There's a clear rhythmic progression and symmetry to each song as well.
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>>71610389
Why? Is classical music above all other music or something?
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Replica is better under every aspect
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>>71610433
lol

checked
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>I like this album and it's experimental, so it must be the most groundbreaking album of the past decade XD
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>>71610369
Idk seems like people either hate it or love it. Personally i fucking love R Plus Seven, but Lopatin said that most of it was just random jams
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>>71611120
>symmetry
what did you mean by this
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>>71610369
Replica is better
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>>71610369
It's one of the better post-minimalist pieces I've heard as it retains at least some semblance of musicality and momentum.

Then again, I think basically every composer following the death of Schubert is more or less worthless.
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>>71610426
>technically no music made in this time period can be considered classical
classical is a style, not a time period
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>>71611146
If you are an "elitist" twat, yes.
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>>71611769
Correct, but we apply the term "kitsch" now, as what would be neo-neo-neo-classical music is generally subsumed in low quality and an implicit divorce from the academic tradition (see: crossover composers like Max Richter)
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Replica is superior
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>>71611793
Listen to Woolf Works and tell me Max Richter is low quality.
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>>71611146
Yes.
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>>71611958
It is low quality, non-academic music with a "nostalgic" sensibility.

There is no genuine classical music today, better termed "idealist music", because though the idea was to revive classical aesthetics (through symmetry, harmony) it was really also the peak of abstract music (thing in and of itself) rather than the somatic, heroic music of actual classicism.

Funnily enough, Daniel Lopatin is in fact moving close to a new ideal music, coloured through his lens as a post-modern subject.
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>>71610389
i dont recognize this tripfag but he's shitting up a ton of threads today
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>>71611241
B8
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>>71612056
>ideal music
what did he mean by this?
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if any lopatin album is described as groundbreaking it's either eccojams or replica. R + 7 is a great album but it's not that interesting if you have context in experimental music.
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The way R+7 recontextualizes 'world music' is absolutely brilliant. There's absolutely no kitsch or irony at play, it's just beautiful, exotic 'other-worldly' and surprisingly emotional. Ferraro can learn a thing or two.
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>>71612056
So you haven't listened to Woolf Works
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>>71613521
weird
dan said human story 3 was brilliant and his album of 2016
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>Will we be studying it and hailing it as a fine achievement in modern music?
do people actually talk this way
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>>71613765

I don't care. Human story 3 is objectively dogshit.
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>>71613521
>There's absolutely no kitsch or irony at play, it's just beautiful, exotic 'other-worldly' and surprisingly emotional
this. this is a surprisingly rare accomplishment for modern post-internet stuff

the pastoral vibe on the first track is heavenly and the impressionistic video for it is brilliant for wringing so much from an emoji over a white background.
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>>71612056
>It is low quality, non-academic music with a "nostalgic" sensibility.
This ideological mindset legitimately triggers me because you are trying to attribute things like "quality" into aesthetics as if there is some meter or chart you can use to objectively rank music. There isn't. Whatever the fuck "non-academic" music is too. Just sounds like elitist horseshit you found on a forum run by three people just as autistic as you.

Beyond understanding technical structure, there is no objectivity to music, least of all a bubble of "academic" versus "non-academic". What does that honestly even mean?
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>>71611178
>>71611628
>>71611912
yee
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>>71611277
He said Replica was random jams too
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>>71615845

Where did he say that? In a pitchfork interview he said this:

>These samples I'm using are the last remnants of society in a post-apocalyptic world, and the survivors think they're putting together a replica of what society used to be like, but they're getting it totally wrong. Like someone getting artifacts wrong for a museum in the future. I'm so obsessed with what will happen 10,000 years from now that I wanted to create a situation where I could simulate that on my own terms.
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r+7 is fun like glassworks where replica is more like lmao samples 420
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>>71615975
At work right now but will link sources later. I'm certain he said repeatedly that Replica was way more improvisational than R+7.
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>>71610369
no, because Garden of Delete is.
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>replica
4 good tracks
>r+7
5 good tracks
>garden
11 good tracks, interesting intro and nice japanese bonus
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>>71616262

GOD is his worst album by far. The irony went too far.
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>>71612056
hey man succe my dicce :)
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replica is to eccojams what r+7 is to sacred tapestry

>>71615975
yeah but your quote only goes as far as to imply that opn was at the least working within some specific sonic framework but not that the tunes themselves are composed in some thoroughly thought-out manner.

replica tunes can be both "random jams" and arise from "a situation simulated on his own terms"
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>>71616380

>opn has only three albums

Typical nu-opn fan.
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>>71610389
The new classical is "contemporary art music" you fucking pleb
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>>71611241
true
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Note: no one could answer my demand.
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>>71610389
name 1 woman you've had sex with
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>>71616390
GoD is the best progressive electronic album since 70s
>>71616411
lol
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>>71616455
note: ur gay xD
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>>71616475

GOD is shit by opn standards. The indulgent backstory with the alien and hyper grunge and how he was inspired by classic rock and nu-metal radio. It's worthless post-ironic garbage that wont stand the test of time. Replica and R+7 are already classics.
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>>71616516
buy better headphones or kill yourself maybe
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>>71616544
sound design is for homos, composition is all that matters in music
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>>71616566
im waiting on that sike bro... (or else I'll shoot you POW POW POW POW)
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>>71616544

GOD has no subtlety at all. It's all upfront 'le ironic midi nu-metal xd' shit.
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>>71616602
boy you heard it once didn't you?
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>>71616602
the only thing ironic about that album is that you're a moron
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>>71616681
>>71616683

It's openly inspired by the "banality of classic rock and nu-metal".
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>>71616704
how about some hot sauce for that spicy quote
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>>71616722
if it's already spicy why would it need hot sauce?
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desu only one good track from R+7 is chrome country. for me it's kinda too few to make this album
>most groundbreaking

Sticky Drama, Sdfk, Child of Rage, Animals, Freaky Eyes are more interesing. And No good which is probably the best electronic music composition in last 30 years
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>>71616722

>he doesn't know that

It seems like I'm more invested in OPN's music than you. Just look up the interviews he did around GOD's release.
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>>71616743
>most groundbreaking
why?

>>71616735
just link the source you dumb idiot
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>>71610369
What? No! Nigga Klaus Schulze released his first album in like 1971 and this does just that.
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>>71616743

>Sticky Drama, Sdfk, Child of Rage, Animals, Freaky Eyes are more interesing. And No good which is probably the best electronic music composition in last 30 years
>this fucking GOD fag

You're hilarious.
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>>71616766
>why
read entire thread or at least op post
>>71616797
prove me wrong
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>>71610369
It's one of them, definitely. There's some other contenders though, like Confield.

Replica is great but not as good as R + 7 in my opinion.

I don't care much for G.O.D.. What made Oneohtrix so interesting was crafting a soundscape that sounded completely abstract and out of this world, like it shouldn't exist. I feel like if I had a visual or textual representation of R Plus Seven it would explode my brain somehow. GOD kinda took that "unreal" quality away that I liked so much. It's more down-to-earth, sure, and more dancable, but it's the lack of those qualities that made previous OPN so much more alluring.
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>>71616864

GOD is objectively his worst album post-Replica. You can't argue that, it's fact. We get it, it was your first opn album and you like how catchy it is. It's his most mainstream friendly by far. I've read reviews that called tracks on GOD 'bangers'.
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>>71616902
>has far more going on at once and throughout with its overload of sounds and melodies
>most mainstream friendly album
Yeah, that's TOTALLY much easier to digest than repetition on similar sounding phrases that his other music entails. I guess prog rock must be more mainstream friendly than radio pop as well.
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is Daniel better than Richard?
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>>71616958
Overall yes, but sometimes no
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>>71616902
In GOD there's actually something to listen to, unlike the rest of his shit (I've heard some of his less popular albums too).
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>>71616947
>I guess prog rock must be more mainstream friendly than radio pop as well.
comparing apples to oranges
GOD is by far his most accessible
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GoD is his latest album, so therefore it's Daniel at his most developed yet. He objectively had more knowledge that he could put into this album than any of his others. Saying it's not his best work is being a contrarifag.
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>>71616899
>>71616902
>>71616797
>>71616516
>>71616390
tfw ppl are too retarded to understand progression of the most progressive album ever. You will appreciate GoD in 2027. You will say then
>oh it was really futuristic xD i was fucking deaf before ha-ha

save this post
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>>71610369
this album just keeps on growing on me
it's incredible how intricate this record is
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>>71617042

>You will appreciate GoD in 2027.
he thinks were going to be alive after the economy crashes lmao
dumbass
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>>71617026
well, artist can't review his work objectively so who cares
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>>71617022
>comparing apples to oranges
Missing my point here. Something with a FAR more intricate melodic/harmonic framework isn't more accessible. That's the case with GOD. It got the lowest critic scores of all his recent records and they all had the same gripe with it, that it attacks with too many sounds in too short of a time. There's nothing accessible about it outside the fact that the melodies individually are catchy.
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>>71617105
god sucks because "i bite through it" feels unfinished
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>>71617042

GOD sucks dude, get over it. You didn't even know it was inspired by classic rock and nu-metal.
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>>71617026
You really think Let It Be is the beats Beatles album? Tomorrow's Harvest best BoC album? Damogen Furies the best Squarepusher album? Painting With the best AnCo album? RAM the best Daft Punk album?
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>>71613828
yeah, why can't they all use my aloof cool kid tone
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>>71616958
Hell fucking no.
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>>71617026

You're a retard.
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>>71616471
good post
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>>71617126
Idk man, I personally love the track. It's kinda erratic at first, but you just gotta like get a feel for its structure like a lot of other tracks on the record, and it's pretty cool.
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>>71617026
>artist gets progressively faster at writing albums but always gets amnesia upon release
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>>71616380
>>71616262
>>71616475
>GoD is the best 0PN album
when will this meme end. Shit was not only mediocre but it turned his live show to shit
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>>71617171
>taking this bait
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>>71610369
no, but that doesn't mean it's not good as hell.
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>>71617105
i had to listen to this album about 5-6 times to find it his the best LP. also i don't understand why you talk about meinstream elements in any Lopatin's tracks. it's hilarous

>It got the lowest critic scores of all his recent records
atm it has 0.01 less than R+7 at RYM (if it even matters)
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>>71610369
People talk about this album as if it were some masterfully crafted breakthrough in post-genre sound when in reality it's just another shit meme that is different enough from what you call "normie music" for you circle-jerkers to tell yourselves it has some merit.

I've tried to really listen to this piece of shit six different times, yesterday being the most recent. Every time I end up deleting again but you fuckers gush over it so much, every few months I'll see a thread and I think maybe I missed something. Nope. Fuck that. I'm done with it forever. I'm convinced there's nothing to like.

Now eccojams volume one, on the other hand...
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>>71617288
The meme is that it's an awful record though. All you faggots who can only handle simplistic laid back stuff instead of something more complex like GOD need to like, listen to more music, or stop making music your hobby/passion.
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>>71610369
it's a post-modern masterpiece. but it must be viewed the lenses of post-modernism.
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>>71617301

You're too pleb to get R+7. Stick to your endlessly looped pop hooks.
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>>71617300
> also i don't understand why you talk about meinstream elements in any Lopatin's tracks. it's hilarous
Because the "OPN went mainstream" is a blatantly false and fallacious argument presented by people who didn't like GOD.

>atm it has 0.01 less than R+7 at RYM (if it even matters)
It used to be much lower when it first came out. Go read the recent comments on that record, you'll see people talk about how they first hated the album but then it really grew on them.
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>>71617143
it could have been inspired even by fcking polka or nightcore and it doesn't change anything
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We will be talking about Biosphere.

R+7 is a great record though

Also Eccojams probably has the biggest impact.
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>>71617379
yeah i think eccojams will end up being his legacy.
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>>71617369

Now that you mention it, some parts kinda sound like nightcore.
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>half of album isn't uploaded to youtube
>mainstream
post best xD
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>>71617317
bruh you probably can't even get through the first track of Returnal
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>>71617379

>Also Eccojams probably has the biggest impact.

Only the shitty-rip, slowed down youtube version. The 'original' version sounds like shit and completely ruins the lethargic and hypnotic vibe.
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>>71616471
ur mom
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>>71617413
doesn't matter the "version" it will be remembered and probably be apart of some hipster revival post 2020
not r+7 or even god
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>>71617400
maybe Daniel can make a brilliant from a shit
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>>71617413
The "original" version is remastered IMO, I have the cassette.
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>>71617411
yeah it's true antimainstream protection
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>>71617464

Back when the album blew up, there wasn't an official digital release. The only release was a wrongly ripped youtube-upload that slowed down the songs about 20%. That's the version became legendary and influential.
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>>71617411
The textures on Nil Admirari aren't that crazy nor visceral, just a teeny bit on the abrasive side. Not THAT hard to get through.
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>>71617508
link it family
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>>71617522
i always skip this song because i don't like drone but entire album is nice anyway. I find it just too long uninteresting intro
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>>71617345
Thanks for the advice, friend. It was surely my lifelong habits of enjoying Grimes, k-pop, and Kanye West that brought me to /mu/.

Oh wait, you fuckers actually like them as well.
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>>71617345
>thinks endlessly looped two chords is better than endlessly looped intricate hooks
Hahahahahaha gotta love how these stupid OPN fans think they listen to deep shit when it's actually the most basic bitch stuff on the market.
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i think that noone said that R+7 is shit. Just you have to realise that hurting true that GoD is just a bit better album
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Anthany Fantano Gave R Plus Seven a 6 It's Shit Bruh
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>>71617695
>thinks deep=good

oh man i can't wait until you're 40 and everyone can point to an artist that meant more than le deep hipster tunez you listen to. you're gonna be so mad
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>>71617528

The original slow version isn't up anymore but I found a reupload, just compare:

slow rip:

https://youtu.be/T5sQQRdki1k?t=280

original:

https://youtu.be/unN7QvSWSTo?t=414

The original is way too fast for my liking. The slow rip has a nice hypnotic, bottomless oceanic and sedative quality to it.
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>>71617816
>and everyone can point to an artist that meant more
>meant more
What does this even mean? Lmao OPN fans talking out of their ass as usual.
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>>71616471
kek
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>>71616380
never even heard this japanese bonus track wtf thanks for the heads up
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>>71610369
>>71610380
>>71610447
>>71612056
>>71612472
>>71613521
But all he does is rehash 80's progressive electronics and new age kitsch.
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>>71617878

He's not being ironic about it though. He genuinely loves the sounds and textures of new age. New age has a lot of potential if you remove all the kitsch, which opn does.
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>>71611628
Objectively, this is true.
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>>71617842
meant more as in more influential, more emotionally salient, relateable, more forward-thinking, more culturally relevant. if you think art is objective and that your bandcamp autists deserve more praise than OPN or Tim Hecker, you are as much a joke as they are.
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>>71616958
too early to see, but he has the potential
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>>71617818

i'm almost positive the version I've always had was the normal speed one
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>>71616958
Incomparable. Richard deconstructed rave music whereas Lopatin deconstructs new age music.

You can say that OPN is the RDJ of new age, that would be correct.
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>>71617908
>influential
Cool. Artists like Klauz Schulze were doing similar stuff to OPN decades ago. Far more influential.

>more emotionally salient
Subjective. People like the ones that get Make A Wish feel more of an emotional connection to Justin Beiber than anything we talk of here, and nothing can take that away from them. Not a good measure of overall quality.

>relatable
See above statement. Same thing.

>more forward thinking
See first statement. Regurgitating progressive electronic, new age, and sampling is not forward thinking.

>more culturally relevant
The only people that really like OPN are the hipster "so indeh!" P4K style audience. Most people who actually care about music itself and not image or other shallow crap know OPN is nothing new, interesting, nor experimental.

>bandcamp autists
>implying I like that shit
>implying that these people aren't the only thing OPN has actually directly influenced
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>>71617818
holy shit you're right
now i gotta look thru soulseek for the slow rip version
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>>71617996

yep it definitely is

honestly I prefer the normal speed one, especially on tracks like B2 and A8
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>>71618050
i guarantee you the artists you like come nowhere near the ground OPN is covering and has been for the last decade. if you want to make liking an artist as the only subjective measure of quality, then i challenge you to name someone reaching into further territory
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>>71618168
yawn that was easy
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>>71618168
what ground is opn covering exactly
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>>71618195
what is this, the year 2000?

nice faggot
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>>71618168
But they already have. 46 years ago.
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i'm listening Replica right now and i'm (of course) truly enjoying. you can gtfo with your low R+7 lmao
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>>71618216
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKDlzswI7Ao
opn can't even cover this song lmao
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>>71618216
>he hasn't heard elseq
please dont embarrass yourself any further
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>>71618225
>they
nice details there
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>>71618229
i'm listening GoD right now and i'm looking for a cool movie on a gayporn site. I've just realised how ironic it is
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>>71618216
Good music survives beyond hype and trends.

OPN's music doesn't have music going it when you remove all the hype surrounding it and put it in a context outside of modern post-internet trends.
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>>71610389
m. nut tickler
fucky fat bags
braingasm
c. r. jepson
aidsinmybrain
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>>71618284
This is the third time I am mentioning Klaus Schulze in this topic. But then I am kinda fucking dumb for expecting OPN fans to have reading comprehension, or really any knowledge of music at all it seems based on lack of knowledge about elseq
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>>71618327
oh, you're right. only artists before OPN deserve to be remembered.

t. numale
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>>71618327
oh cmon. your shitty taste isn't modern post-internet trends.
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>>71618255
>opens audacity
>starts video
>records 11:37-long sample
>plays it back in its entirety once
if i can cover that plebpop opn could do it in his sleep no problem
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>>71618562
rekt
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I've been putting off listening to this and Garden of Delete for a while, and now I understand the hype behind it. Holy shit, it's structured and crazy at the same time.
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>>71616566
>sound design is for homos, composition is all that matters in music
I agree that composition is 95% of it, but GoD has 9/10 composition and 9.5/10 sound design to me.

>>71617288
I agree GoD doesn't sound very good live (at least from the shitty recordings I've heard) but I think it's because of the guitar and other live aspects.

>>71617301
GoD is a vastly improved evolution of Eccojams in many ways.
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>>71618325
sticky drama ; )
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>>71618050
i like listening to opn's music i think its good
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>>71618344
oh sorry, i expected you wouldn't samefag a moot point over and over. sorry for that mistake there
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let's take a bunch of loops and layer them on top of eachother slowly throughout the song until it all comes together: the album
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>tfw to stupid to understand this album
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>>71610389
Is that a no
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Why is everyone being so mean :(
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>>71622281
fag
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>>71619335
>GoD is a vastly improved evolution of Eccojams in many ways.

oh my god shut the fuck up you titanic plebian
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>>71624052
He's right you know

GoD is way more intelligent and musical
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>>71617989
No he doesn't. Muh loops and delay do not hold a candle to the vision and talent Richard possesses.
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>>71618168
>Mika Vainio
>Valerio Tricoli
>Philip Jeck
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>>71616404
Kek
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>>71625511
>Mika Vainio
i don't know the others, but if that's your first name then... no. They are not similar and he's not 'pushing ground' further than OPN for sure
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>>71611146
Unless you're of low IQ, yes
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>>71627015
>>>/pol/
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does anyone like Returnal?
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>>71627165
I mostly just like the title song and the Antony version. The rest is good but pales in comparison to much of his other stuff.
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leave to mu to make everything a competition about which artist is breaking "ground" they don't even understanding

as an artist its funny reading these threads when none of us even see it that way lmao.
thanks for the laugh guys
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>>71616390
I have to completely disagree here. I hated it my first two listens but it has since become on of my favorite 0PN albums along with R+7 and Rifts. Honestly, Replica is overrated in my opinion. It's not bad, but it's certainly not Daniel's best work.
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>>71627165
Yeah I dig it a lot
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>>71616902
You seem to have an unwarranted hatred for Garden of Delete or not really understand the concepts he was going for on the album. I really don't get how you'd think it's his most "mainstream" album when stuff like Eccojams or Rifts exist. Eccojams is literally vaporwave and Rifts is essentially synth-wave inspired by 80's synth-pop and ambient.

To me Garden of Delete took the best things from Replica and R+7 and mashed them together with a darker, grittier, grungey sound and it works flawlessly. I am very partial to sound design and atmosphere though so that's why R+7 and GoD and Rifts sit much better with me than something like Replica. Replica is pretty cut and dry unconventional sampling with obscure commercials. It's essentially the technical expansion on the concepts of Eccojams.
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>>71617126
I felt this way about a lot of the tracks on GoD at first but once I realized how well all of the subtle melodies and rhythms that slide in and out on each track work together with the ambient and atmospherics of the sound design, it really stands out as one of his better albums to me.
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>>71617301
you think people listen to R+7 and enjoy it explicitly because it's not "normie music"? I will be the first to say Daniel didn't do anything absolutely new, but he did in fact expand on previous concepts he explored, and furthermore improved upon a genre of music that was being done in the 80s. R+7 has a lot of similarities to Andrew Poppy's arrangements. The Object is a Hungry Wolf comes to mind, though I feel it's more reminiscent of James Ferraro.

What makes 0PN so great is his sound design and unconventional composition. It has a lot of aspects of "normie music", but it takes those concepts and ideas and turns them on their head. 0PN is very pop oriented, but he formulates arrangements in such a way that they are progressive and maintain intrigue and engagement.
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>>71624052
You do know Eccojams is probably one of Daniel's own least favorite works of his, right? I'm pretty sure he hates being associated with the atrocity that is Vaporwave. Garden of Delete is objectively much more technical and compositional than Eccojams in a million and one ways.
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>>71624373
OPN isn't exclusively "muh loops and delays" though. I don't think you've listened to enough OPN to form a legitimate opinion about his music.
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>>71627165
I once listened to Ouroboros on repeat for 6 hours during a meditative state of introspection.

I fucking love that song.
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>>71627482
>I don't think you've listened to enough OPN to form a legitimate opinion about his music.
not true btw dumbass
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>>71627506
Then I have no idea how you think OPN is just "loops and delays" exclusively. You're clearly deaf.
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>>71627539
>more projection
when will it ever stop
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>>71627547
lol yeah I'm projecting. Can't you just admit you're exaggerating or flat out wrong?
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>>71627637
>my opinion is wrong but surely yours is correct
Surely i thought this was an 18+ board
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>>71610389
>>71610389
we the new classic bih
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>>71627686
You're not even making sense anymore. My "opinion" isn't wrong because Daniel Lopatin's music DOESN'T exclusively consist of "looping and delay" as you'd like to claim. Yes, maybe they are elements within his music but saying it's all looping and delay would imply there is no structure, composition, or arrangement to anything he makes. Which is an absolute fallacy.
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>>71627723
>Daniel Lopatin's music DOESN'T exclusively consist of "looping and delay" as you'd like to claim.
thats what it sounds like to me
don't invalidate my experience just because you can't understand me
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>>71627753
>his music is loops and delay because that's my opinion and there is absolutely no objectivity to anything in music

Okay buddy, whatever you say. Have fun being deaf and having no musical or production understanding whatsoever.
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>>71627753
>thats what it sounds like to me
moron, every note ever is literally consists of looping the same frequency
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>>71627753
retard
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>>71627790
>Have fun being deaf and having no musical or production understanding whatsoever.
thanks i will
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>>71627833
not in guitar music
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>>71627886
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>>71627224
post music friendo
or some gravel on your twitter
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R+7 and The Money Store have defined the 'underground' side of modern pop music

Not saying they're objectively good, but it's hard to deny that they've influenced (directly or indirectly) a large amount of pop artists.
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>>71628932
I am not going to argue that R+7 isn't in any way influential, but can you refer to some artists you feel may have taken influence from R+7?
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What ground exactly did opn break with r+7? Not saying it is or isnt anything but i havent seen any explicit examples of whats being pioneered by opn
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>>71629951
he didn't. nobody in this thread has proved it either
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>>71629978
If anything he expanded on the contemporary compositions of composers like Philip Glass and Andrew Poppy by combining different elements of pop and electronic from the last decade. He's a revivalist of sorts, if you will.
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Tried to listen to this on acid and had to stop its so intense and really affects me a strange way emotionally

>>71629978
>>71630085

I'd say Garden of Delete is more groundbreaking, It really doesn't fit into one genre and it's more cohesive than r+7. Lopatin is a genius at conveying emotion through texture in my opinion and I'm not sure if he really does anything that hasn't been done but I think he's really good at crafting his songs so elaborately.
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