>Guitar based music will die in your lifetime Free at last,

>>71585047
I like a lot of rock but yeah I kinda agree.
It's already pretty dead

>tfw you want to make guitar based music for the rest of your life

Am I in the minority here then?

>>71586377
yeah, electronic music is far superior

>>71585047
What does this mean? You really think no musician will continue the 800 year tradition of playing guitar or just that there will be less guitar-based music that has its antecedents in folk/rock/blues in popular songs. If the latter, yeah, probably, who cares really.

>>71586391
>muh synths n loops n shit
Nothing beats actual instruments and you know that.

>>71586426
Yes, bitch, I do think so. If not, I will make kill it.

Die, as in be forgotten? Nope. Will the scene of guitar music die because of the massive lack of innovation? Definitely yes.

>>71586391
if there was no guitar music all these electronic "artists" would have no one to rip off and call it sampling

>>71586455
actual instruments are inherently imperfect. the synthesizer is an instrument, and a computer gives you full control over sound.

theres a reason why all these shitty local indie bands sound the same lol.

I just can't take you robo-music faggots seriously lol

>>71585047
If the majority of music you listen to is hip hop based, then you are a cuck; plain and simple.

>>71585047
pleb

>>71586679
Same. The trend of guitar in rap rather than piano is really nice to my ears

>>71586538
>wanting music to be """""""""""perfect"""""""""""
>thinking the concept of """"""""""""perfection" can apply to music

why don't you go """"""""""""perfect""""""""""" killing yourself

>>71585047
>Guitar based music
If you listen closely to 'Blank Space' there are guitars in the chorus playing the chords and pretty much many pop songs like 'Chained to the rythm' include guitars.
If you were alluding to rock music, then that is a different story.

>>71586998
lmao are you angry dude? art is perfection. prove to me otherwise

>>71587117
>ridiculous claim
>prove me wrong haha

are you 12

What do you actually mean by guitar based music though? Jazz, funk, rock, blues, pop, hip hop, R&B, electronic, metal, etc? Guitar is in every genre of music essentially. Even the most digital generic cookie cutter pop songs will sometimes have guitar. It would be better to say guitar centered, but then again that isn't necessarily true as not every band that has lots of guitar in its songs is centered around guitar. Far from it.
The second part of this, is what do you define as dead or alive? What measure could we be using other than popularity, but even if you say something is dead, it still exists, it's just not as popular as other things.

>>71587223
im not 12 but i bet you're one of those aging white dudes who luvs muh rock muh guitar

>>71586538
Actual instruments played by actual people are definitely imperfect, but it's those imperfections that give the music a unique sound. I like alot of rhythm-based electronic music, but sometimes it sounds stiff and soulless.

>>71585047
Dont worry, there will be a rise of Classical and Portuguese guitar led by third-wave-sad-Mark Kozelek

>>71587484
it sounds stiff because it's quantized. thats the point of dance music, its on beat

>>71586491
>sampling
>only listening to hip-hop
>caring so much about obscure soul tracks you probably hadn't heard about in the first place

hahaha

>>71586998
>changing what he meant by imperfect to make your point

I, too, remember being 15 and not being able to make proper arguments.

i play bass

i hope guitar dies because i still keep my job, and /gg/ wouldn't exist either

would be great

>>71587533
I get that, The point i'm trying to make is both have their merits. Perfectly on-beat rhythms are fine in some contexts, but to me quantized drums in a soul/funk/rock/ect. song would sound strange

>>71587569
you know a lot about exactly what he meant for someone who isn't him

>>71585047
i don't think so, there really isn't a single music genre that exists that is dead, if it existed, then there is someone who plays it and there are people who like it. May become less popular but that doesn't actually mean something is bad and it never has meant that, i just can't see it

>>71587670
>>71587579
>>71587420
>i
I should always be capitalized no matter the situation.

>>71586538
>>71587117
>>71587420
This is actually pathetic

>>71587703
i hope you die

>>71587721
Please, you are triggering me anon

>>71585047
>[Genre] will die
No, it won't.
Music doesn't die. There are fucking Iranian tribesman living in the hills playing the exact same shit their ancestors played when Alexander the Great defeated Darius III at the Battle of Gaugamela. There will be people playing guitar long after we're all dead and gone.

>>71587703
i hope you end your own life, in a violent way

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No... Piano based music has certainly not died... There is no reason to believe that the guitar will suffer a different fate... In fact I know that it won't...

>>71587775
In fact electronic music is much more a fragile genre just because of the fact that you need a computer to make it.
In other words you can play electronic music in LA but not in the middle of a forest.

>>71587848
Alot of guitar music requires use of distortion/FX pedals too

>>71587886
True but there's no "acoustic" electronic music

>>71587917
https://youtu.be/PSUj5ApbdMY

>>71587848
have you heard of generators

I don't think the guitar as an instrument is going to die but I'm pretty glad that the same boring sounds like wah and overdrive are pretty cliche and outdated at this point. The same thing is starting to happen with the overuse of reverb and chorus pedals on psychedelic music.

>>71587703
>>71587713
sad neckbeards spotted

>>71586391
no it fucking isn't

>>71588049
apparantly he hasnt heard of macbooks either

>>71586426
agreed
>>71586630
>"Hur Dur Electronic Musik Iz hip hop based mai pur whaite ruck musik"
sounds like you missed the part where electronic music started in germany and rock music was started by black people but ok.

>>71587775
don't tell the reactionary modernist fucktards that. No matter what they won't believe you. It's like talking to a brick wall.

you are but a fool

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Not as long as music like this can be made with a guitar.

God you faggots are pitiful, electronic music is the future. If the only electronic music you've tried to listen to is 4/4 and without imperfections of course you're going to hate electronic music. Thank god the "but muh GUITARZ" and the "le born in the wrong generation" memes will finally die.

>>71588628
t.assblasted cuck

I bet you love putting on TPAB when you watch Tyrone and your gf have sex.

>>71586391
uh, no it fucking isn't you faggot

>>71588628
>Elvis
>black

I mean, I guess he sorta was in a way.

>>71589596
Alright cool. Electronic is the future.

What does that exactly has to do with guitar again? And what's wrong with 4/4 time signature? Is it because electronic has 9001bpm? Faster isn't always better you know.

>>71589596
>>71589832
This thread is completely full of retards.

>>71589832
time signature and tempo are not the same thing, holy shit lol.

>>71590113
He thinks elvis invented rock.

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>>71589832

>>71586391
>>71586426
>>71586455
>>71586459
>>71586466
>>71586679
>>71586932
>>71586966
>>71586998
i always thought guitar sounds were too twangy. the keyboard piano had a more full wooden tone to it that drew me in as a kid.

you dont even need a guitar anymore.
plus im interested in making my own keyboards and custom shit on sample equipment thats takes less ram and shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p6p0d0gCfs

>>71591549
nice blog post fag

>>71589636
That's literally a real fear for you, isn't it?
How weird it must be to always have that in your mind. Why?

>>71587807
How many people under the age of 40 could name a famous pianist?

>>71591964
Jools Holland

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>>71585047
Pretty much. At this point someone playing guitar might as well be playing an accordion as far as popular music is concerned. Guitar based music had receded in incredible amount in the general consciousness in the last 15 years or so.
>When you say Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd and you might as well be saying Lawrence Welk and Myron Floren. Oh, you don't know who those guys are? I've got some bad news for you, Generation Z doesn't know who Brian Jones or Jerry Garcia are either, sound familiar?

>>71586459
>I will make kill it
Euro trash confirmed

Electric guitar is the most versatile instrument. It will never die out but hopefully the bland indie crap most pitchfork hipsters listen to will

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>>71592220
>Electric guitar is the most versatile instrument.
*ahem*

pic related
>nb4 not an instrument
yes it is
and it's more versatile and complex than any instrument that came before it

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>>71592250
>started playing guitar when I was a teenager
>seemed like a cool way to express yourself musically
>got really good
>considered accomplished even by professionals I sometimes associate with
>as I mature musically I realize writing guitar based music is rudimentary, simplistic and creatively limited compared to the infinite possibilities a laptop based DAW offers now
>as I mature musically I slowly realize how uninteresting most guitar based music actually is
>as I mature socially I come to realize most people have long since stopped caring about guitar based music too
>mfw guitar might as well be an accordion or a harpsichord now
>pic related: mfw I know in my heart I wasted my time on this instrument
>mfw I wish I could have all that time I wasted back
don't end up like me kids, save yourselves from my fate

>>71586491
it´s not that i cant do shit without samples, it´s just more fun to use stuff like that. asshole

>>71586391
FUCK YOU MOTHERFUCKER FUCK YOU

>>71593136

nice pasta

>>71593659
He's right though

>>71592060
What Youtube comment section was this copypasted from?

>>71593136
>hating on the accordion or the harpsichord
I mean, I could read you were a pleb from the beginning, but come on.

>>71586538
and perfect is always exactly what you want, that's why nobody ever humanizes their midi files. i mean why would you willingly offset the notes and make it less perfect?

[Spoiler]kys[/spoiler]

>>71587579
bass is a guitar you retard

>>71592250
Run your guitar through it. The dynamics of strings paired with whatever electronic synthesizing device makes an electric guitar the most versatile instrument

what's the opposite of a rockist?

>>71594091
A turny

>>71594091
Poptimist

>>71594137
>>71594123
>I don't know what a rockist is: the post

>>71594137
pop and rock are literally the same so no

>>71594142
t. Rockist

>>71592250
>complex = better
Oh this again?
>*ahem*
Plug-in guitar fx sound shitty though

>>71594149
How so? They are two different genres
>>71594142
Judging by the lack of an actual argument, you must be a poptimist

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>>71594152
*smacks lips* ain't nobody talk bout no plug-in guitar fx u dumb sheeeit

>>71594165
>>71594151
Rockism is thinking LPs are better than EPs, Singles or Compositions.

>>71594184
>DAW is the most versatile!
>can't get a real guitar sound
Did you read the reply chain?

>>71594199
Yes, that is one of the tenants of rockism.

How does this apply to what i said?

>>71594290
You are replying to a copypasta that is spammed in /gg/ to troll guitarfags.

Don't reply please.

>>71594210
>real
Oh, I see. You're an actual fucking moron. Yeah, it can't produce a REAL piano or violin sound with it either but that wouldn't stop you from being able to completely record a professional sounding Bach symphony from beginning to end on a laptop if you had the production skill.

Name another REAL instrument you could do the same with.

Checkmate, atheist.

>>71594303
>Oh, I see. You're an actual fucking moron. Yeah, it can't produce a REAL piano or violin sound with it either but that wouldn't stop you from being able to completely record a professional sounding Bach symphony from beginning to end on a laptop if you had the production skill
You would still need the real musicians though in this scenario.

Nice try

>>71594290
>jazz is coming back in a big way
>horse drawn carriages are coming back too!
lol

>>71591964
Everyone knows Billy Joel and Debussy.

>>71594316
>You would still need the real musicians though in this scenario.
No you wouldn't. You'd only need a laptop and some synthesizer software.

so is this thread about instrument vs electronic music or guitar vs other instruments

>>71594342
>You'd only need a laptop and some synthesizer software.
But anon just said
>completely record a professional sounding Bach symphony
Which implies the computer being used as a Digital Audio Workstation to *record* the live instruments.
>synthesizer software
Unrealistic string sounds.

>tfw equally interested in guitar-based indie rock wankery as DAW-based synth electro wankery
>tfw will never make it in either because i cant find a focus

FeelsBadMan

>>71594380
Just combine both. It doesn't have to be one or the other you dummy

>>71594342
>synthesizers can reproduce actual instruments
laughinggirls.tiff

anon i thought the same as you but it just simply is not the case, i invested in a bass guitar for just this reason

>>71594386
combining guitars and electronic influences fucks up everything imo, there is no good way to combine both world. i guess in that sense i am a purist

>>71591549
This is so blatantly sampled. If you hope to emulate drums on the same level as actual players like Phil Collins and Bill Bruford, you might as well throw in the towel right now.

>>71586391
Electric guitars is "Electronic" music retard. I guess you're assuming that shit that where they use presets, samples, loops at raves and they push play?

>>71594361
>Which implies the computer being used as a Digital Audio Workstation to *record* the live instruments.
No it doesn't, it implies that you'd use a laptop to completely record a professional sounding Bach symphony. The sounds being synthesized in software.
>Unrealistic string sounds
Nope, that all depends on your production abilities and your synth programming skills.
>>71594392
>laptop based synthesizers can't do bass guitar
Ok, retard. You sound like a bassist all right.

yes.. just like jazz music died b4 i was even born.
also pretty sure the crooning songwriter with an acoustic guitar trope is never gonna die.
>>71586377
no you're not in the minority and neither am I but it makes us both pretty gay

>>71594419
>record
Oh I see, you are maybe not understanding what that word means
>Nope, that all depends on your production abilities and your synth programming skills.
I have never heard a believable case of this. You can continue to believe in your theory though.
>>71594407
Nah there's lots of great examples.

>>71594419
i don't even play bass lmao

i just wanted an actual bass sound for my productions.

but you know, if you can find an actual softsynth that can deliver the sound of an actual bass guitar, be my guest and prove me wrong instead of calling me a retard like an actual retard that doesn't know what he's talking about

>>71594437
like what, i've hated pretty much every example i've heard of combinations of rock and electronic influences desu

>>71586614
>in denial

>daw's
>requiring any kind of talent or skill to operate
ayy lmao office monkey

>>71586538
There's no such thing as full control. When you get deep enough into producing you'll figure that out.

Electronic music is just convenient. Notice how the best electronic music is nearly always the stuff trying to make it sound more physical?

>>71594451
Well did you like Kid A or Adore or Reflektor or Yankee Hotel Foxtrot or Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots? Those are examples of the combination or rock and electronic aesthetics

>>71594461
Pls release your electronic masterpiece by next week since it requires so little talent to operate.

>>71588161
Filter sweeps and 808s are just as bad.

>>71594440
There isn't. There is no synth on planet earth that can replicate ANY real instrument down to the minute details. Doesn't mean that synths are bad, but they will never actually replace real instruments. It will never happen.
And if it does, and a band wanting to make music together involved 4 nerds sitting in a living room with their fucking computer and sampling shit from the 20th century, then jesus fucking christ, we took a wrong step somewhere.

>>71594483
>since it requires so little talent to operate
dude ur just turning digital knobs and shit. ur a glorified desk jockey get over it

>>71594437
>produce synth string sounds in laptop
>record them with laptop
Are you just a dummy or what?
>>71594440
>i don't even play bass lmao
No, of course you don't. You went out and bought an instrument you can't play because you were too stupid to figure out how a basic utility synth plugin works and buying an actual bass was easier.

>>71593136
I've taken this to the next step and got sick of electronic music and went back to guitar desu.

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I always laugh when I see some dumb 19 year old buying a guitar. It's like why, you dumb fuck? Why waste your time and money? You don't know guitar based music is deader than horse shit? What the fuck do you think's going to happen? Why do you think everybody in their late 20s and early 30s stops playing in bands? Go take a look at the lineups of all the popular music festivals these days. What's the average age of most of those bands? Why do you think that is? I'll tell you why: because being poor as shit is only fun when you're a stupid ass kid. Just as soon as your peer group moves on to adult pursuits you look fucking retarded playing the "cool kid who plays in a band". Trust me, when all your family and friends have stable jobs, kids, and nice houses your "artistic poverty" playing shitshows out of an old dilapidated rust covered van won't measure up anymore. It's like.. think about what your doing, you dumb little shit. What are you trying to achieve? Do you really think you'll be one of the lucky few who'll wins the lottery and has a successful career in music? I mean, really? Do you really think you're talented and smart enough to succeed in the music industry? Are you fucking stupid?

And don't give me all that "I do it for myself" bullshit either. lol, no fuck you don't. You're doing it in the hopes that one day it'll garner you some peer recognition, you're hoping it'll help you climb up socially one day. You do it because you're a fucking loser who wants to desperately escape the societal pecking order you feel has marginalized you. Name a famous guitarist who started off wealthy. Oh, you can't? That's who you think you are, loser. You want that same success and you know it. Only problem with your plan is noone cares because guitar music doesn't matter anymore

Go to school, get a real job, and stop wasting your time trying to score "cool points" with other impressionable moron kids like you. You ain't gonna make it, you fucking idiot

Get a fucking clue

>>71594077
>>71594419
>Nope, that all depends on your production abilities and your synth programming skills.

you can do a lot of things with synth, perfetly replicating actual instruments is not one if those things. sounds shit.

>>71593136
>>as I mature musically I slowly realize how uninteresting most guitar based music actually is
Are you talking about dadrock and wankers like Vai and Malmsteen or did you actually bother to listen to interesting guitar music before coming to this infantile conclusion?

>>71594510
>produce synth string sounds in laptop
That's producing
>record them with laptop
That's recording

They are two different things.
>basic utility synth plugin
What if he wanted an actual bass sound instead of a pretend one?

>>71594509
You are obviously EXTREMELY ignorant to what goes into producing an actually interesting experimental electronically produced track

>>71594544
>You don't know guitar based music is deader than horse shit?
literally why should this fucking matter
what a normie bandwagoner opinion, that you shouldn't invest in something that interests you just because the "scene" for it is supposedly dead
fucking embarrassing to read

>And don't give me all that "I do it for myself" bullshit either. lol, no fuck you don't. You're doing it in the hopes that one day it'll garner you some peer recognition, you're hoping it'll help you climb up socially one day. You do it because you're a fucking loser who wants to desperately escape the societal pecking order you feel has marginalized you.
hardcore fucking projection right there
i'd tell you to kys but you're probably contemplating that even without my advice

>>71594546

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh-hzbG5FzI

soon

>>71594567
Do you think bands just plug in their guitars, crank it to 10 and shred and say "wow dood sounds great! XD"?

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>>71594546
99.9% is plenty close, you're just stupid.
>>71594553
>They are two different things.
Which can both easily be done with a laptop.
>What if he wanted an actual bass sound instead of a pretend one?
If wishes were fishes then they'd be delicious and you'd have to do dishes.

>>71594582
i mean, just because you think 1 form of music takes more skill to produce does not mean another can be made by some brain dead

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>>71594544

ITT: Losers with no renown

>>71594599
>Which can both easily be done with a laptop.
Not if you want a realistic sound

>>71594544
Ah fuck. That hurts. Thanks anon. Still gonna keep playing because I don't have anything else to do.

>>71594510
at this point you are either retarded as fuck or just trolling

sure a synth plugin can make it sound LIKE a bass, but it won't reproduce the ACTUAL sound

you absolute mongoloid

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>>71594616
>Not if you want a realistic sound

>>71594577
Interesting

>>71594627
>but it won't reproduce the ACTUAL sound
Yeah, we've already been over this. Try to keep up please.

When your ears are properly trained you'll come to hear the shocking degree to which guitar features in music that isn't "rock."

>>71594604

even varg says playing guitar is dumb and electronic music is a better option

>>71594643
>Yeah, we've already been over this.
Yes, that no one has yet to actually do it, so it's only in theory

Fuck yeah, I welcome the fake guitar revolution.

https://soundcloud.com/freesnakes/mountains-of-dried-blood

>>71594577
>>71594638
It's impressive, but still sounds like triggered samples.

Sorry electronic fags

>>71594643
try to provide proof of anything you have said in this thread retard

you can stop making inane replies or i will just ignore your ignorancy okay?

>>71594664
>>71594683
There are plenty of software synths that have a realistic sounding bass patch, just because you're too dumb to figure out the most basic ass shit doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

I can't fix stupid, buddy. Especially not over the internet like this.

>>71594708
>realistic souding
maybe if your ears are shit lmao

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>>71594654

Yeah if you're in your 40s with 6 children.

>>71594708
>There are plenty of software synths that have a realistic sounding bass patch
[citation needed]
>just because you're too dumb to figure out the most basic ass shit
If it's so basic, then why does no one have realistic sounding bass synths in their recordings?

>>71594725
Why's that dumb? My uncle who is a doctor with 5 kids unwinds by playing guitar while teaching his 6 years old son how to drum. What's wrong with that?

>>71587628
How would it sound strange? The producer usually picks the drum take that is the most accurate when it comes to staying on time, unless you didn't record with a click which is fine

>>71594616
>realistic
triggered

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>>71594722
>muh subjective opinion as objective fact!
lol, ok tardy.
>>71594735
>oink! oink!
lmao
Do you think I'm over here trying to help you, dum dum?

You sir are a filthy pig and you ain't mah nigga!

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>>71594725

its not because of his family, he just thinks guitar is silly

he's also a fan of early 90s white-label techno so there you go

>>71587917
you dimwit, all music is literally acoustic

>>71594841

Doesn't mention electronic music. Good try?

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>>71594957

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO-SQsie2eU

>>71586391
Lmao faggot

>>71586538
(((Prefect))) fuck off, this is why pop is so bad

i wonder how many guitar voters for trump

>>71594957

He believes spending time on music at all in this day and age is stupid, but using him as an image is kinda dumb since he obviously sees the vast possibilities of electronic music

>>71587117
Underage

>>71595025
the irony is that you are the underage

even if you *could* make a computer sound like a guitar, why on earth would you want to?

it would be possibly the worst sound you could get out of a computer

>>71586391
true

>>71594798
Sorry to trigger you
>>71594808
>I can't prove my claims
Been nice talking to ya

>>71594808
kys anon you are living trash

>>71595616
>If I don't like it, it's not creative
pls stop

>>71595022

You're not staying true to your original argument. Do you even remember what it is kiddo?