I got into an argument at school with some gingerfag about if

Well what do you think anon?

It's a matter of opinion innit

>>71433833
The objective value of music is just another subjective value of music

but there are rules and theory behind music so if those rules are applied poorly

>>71433833
That makes no fucking sense. Literally anything can be discussed on an objective basis so long as the parties have adequate knowledge of the subject.

>>71433833
both are memes

only thing i can think is to non-discussion is when a group/album/song is a rip off from other earlier one, making it bad (or you know, generic) anything else is a matter of preferences...

what do you think?

>>71433833
If good music was objective then everyone would listen to the same stuff

music is composed of objective qualities. assigning value is more subjective, but there are ways to quantify that as well. influence, innovation, and depth of ideology (or lack thereof) within a social and cultural framework are all important things in art.

it's mostly up to other artists to decide how much what they like turns into something new and "good." think of it this way: a critic may be able to lecture you on why he thinks an album is good, just as a professor can lecture you on all the things he's learned from analysis and research within his field. but actual field work, i.e. the "doing" is what ultimately moves art, and academia along with it, forward.

Reminder that music theory is a set of subjective guidelines. You can break them as you see fit.

Therefore calling music objectively bad from a theoretical point of view is a spook.

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Music is objectively bad

>>71434868
Implying everyone has perfect taste.