>How would we go about drawing up a musical spectrum? >Are

Nay

>>71424094
Choatic should be changed to non-melodic.

Non melodic should be changed back to chaotic

fuck you

>>71424169
This or 'dissonant'

Also 'arranged' vs 'improvised' is a weird axis. Maybe 'accessible' vs 'inaccessible'?

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>>71424169
>>71424228
I'm open to other suggestions.

>>71424289
fuck you

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>>71424298

>>71424288
I had trouble figuring out what the extremes should be. I came at this from a different angle last semester, but had to put the project down because of other shit. Now that I've come back to it, you're right, dissonant is a better way to put it.

I'm actually averse to improvised v. arranged as well, but I'm not sure that accessible and inaccessible are the right ranges, because that's kind of relative. I'm hoping we could build this thing to stand up without taste or identity as a reference.

Expressionism is accessible to certain people more than it is to others, for example.

>>71424333
fuck you

>>71424266
Pet Sounds for top left

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>>71424345
Quality posting, Anon.
I'm gonna award you this kek pot.

>>71424355
I was imagining that with the current graph, you'd find a lot of classical music on that end of the spectrum, with real jazz being pretty inversely located.

>>71424333
You're right. Maybe 'minimalist' vs 'maximalist'? I mean regardless of what you choose it'll be subjective

>>71424266
The Money Store for right above TMR
Philosophy of the world for bottom right

>>71424387
fuck you

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>>71424387
Those are definitely better reference points.
Went ahead and improved the graph, I think.

>>71424393
*you

>>71424094
if you are going to do this for real, as in quantify the actual parts of different pieces of music to give them numeric values and then place them on each axis, there is still going to be a large subjective element. Certainly the perception of melodic vs chaotic is something that people can experience differently. You would need to do a larger scale study to have many people quantify the works in the same way.

>>71424457
We'd just end up with Good Morning Good Night on the bottom left if we did that

>>71424464
I'm mostly just doing this for personal purposes, and basically throwing the idea out there. I genuinely believe modern musical theory could be improved if we more closely studied the distinguishable qualities of music, and a lot of pop artists intentionally do this already from what I've seen. Just sharing this here because the chances are pretty high that I'll run into someone who knows more about this shit than I do, and that's an opportunity for me to learn some new stuff.

>>71424469
What's Good Morning Good Night?

>>71424845
Epic

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>>71424845
top left: MBDTF
bottom left: Cory Feldman
top right: MM.. Food
bottom right: Views

>>71424978
You're not working off the same definition of meme here.

>>71424288
>Maybe 'accessible' vs 'inaccessible'?
that's even more vague/arguable than the one he used
what would the accessible/dissonant/chaotic square be? Skrillex?

>>71424978
hmm

>>71424288
what about happy vs sad or something?
Because dissonant music is already inaccessible to many people.

>>71424845
i think you're funny anon, don't worry

>>71425024
accessibility is subjective, as is consonance

chaotic/organized or minimal extravagant and happy/sad is pretty good imo

>>71424845

sippedy ebic

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Simple vs complex
Happy vs sad

>>71425351
I wrote that post like a fucking retard

>>71425187
>>71425233
>>71425303
You can't classify music into two such specific specific emotions as "happy" and "sad"
There's music that just doesnt fit in any of those, what about death grips for example? It's not in any way happy, but it's not sad either. It's just angry as fuck
And anyways, using emotions is as subjective as it gets. It's never gonna get completely objective when discussing music, but you have to try to avoid opinions and perspectives as much as possible. Music that may seem happy to someone could cause sadness in someone else

>>71424288
i like dissonant. it's opposite would be consonant. and improv/arranged can stay. in/accessible is more a function of the musics aesthetics imo

How about a 3rd axis?

>>71424379
pls define "real jazz"

Energetic (or uplifting) vs calm

>>71424867
how is views not a meme

>>71424094
AUTISM SPEAKS

>>71424978
I like this one

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>>71425467
Actually yeah, this could hilarious.

>>71424457
Instead of dissonant say abstract

>>71426410
All music is memetic
This definition of meme here is probably better framed as /mu/core----Normiecore

>>71425467
Nigga we can only post 2D images here

Can we have a thread like this one but instead with an autism spectrum

>>71426592
why?

>>71424266
tmr is melodic when compared to actual free jazz, let alone something like free improvisation or harsh noise

>>71424978
the best chart in this thread

>>71426561
The green axis is backwards

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>>71426592

>>71430006
all of these albums are pretty much the same shit

expand your horizons kiddo

>>71430006
>tfw u have severe autism.

>>71430305
Those were album covers I already had on hand, fuccboi.

fyi listening to radio jazz and rym core doesn't make you cultured.