>YOU SAY GOD, I SAY SAY 10 >*beheads Trump* This is going

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>YOU SAY GOD, I SAY SAY 10
>*beheads Trump*

definitely. we need to bring edgy back now more than ever.

>>71379740
is it out yet?

>>71379740

I'll never understand how things can go from quality to shit so comprehensively

The Simpsons being the best example, it cant have been purely luck that made it good in the first place? where did it all go?

>>71379752

fucking sweet belt though

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>mfw Trump will...
>...build the wall
>...imprison Obama and Hillary
>...ban all muslims
>...shut down all fake media including Hollywood
>...achieve world peace by befriending Russia
>...make America great again

>>71379772
all of mansons "good" music was because of reznor

>>71379802

I'm pretty sure Reznor had nothing to do with say10

>>71379802

>"good"

so you're trying so say objectively antichrist superstar isn't a good album?

>>71379740
>YOU SAY GOD, I SAY SAY 10
IF YOU'RE 555 I'M 666

>>71379842
More like 444 because Manson is a NAZI with connections to BOYD RICE!

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Sorry Brian, leave AOTY up to us.

>>71379802
objectively that's not the case.
Reznor didn't come up with good riffs for Manson.
Reznor didn't come up with the themes and lyrics of Manson's songs
Reznor didn't make Manson's vocal performances as good as they were

what Reznor did was contribute to the fucked-up post-apocalyptic aesthetic of one of his albums by adding plenty of little sound arrangements that make it fun to re-listen to.

And, like any producer worth his salt, he gave them a good guitar tone, but that's nothing worth writing home about.

If you compare the demos of his first two albums to the final product you'll quickly realize that Reznor's participation was useful but certainly not the only thing that made them good.

>>71379866
>>71379870

>tfw Boyd Rice ft on the new album, and a Trent diss track

>>71379802
reznor had nothing to do with mechanical animals, holy wood and pale emperor though

>>71379887
I'd buy that for a reichsmark

>>71379915

trent is far more jacked than that

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>>71379900

Agreed, also Trent is a boring family man while Manson is still a crazy freak

>>71379927
Trent and Manson are both huge now, but in different places.

Brian has a huge goiter and Trent has a huge beer gut.

Fuu

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Nice legs Brian, shame if someone were to feel them up.

>>71379887
does boyd rice feature on the new Marylin manson album? might be the first time I'll listen to one of Mansons album

>>71379976

yeah but it's a secret

>>71379934

If anything Reznor's life got more interesting with a family. He's got a quirky Miliennialfu who makes him do young people shit, four kids, three of them potential future Elliot Rogers, in-laws that probably disapprove of him ( there was an interview at his place and the reporter found him brushing his dog's teeth just to impress the in-laws), and is still combating Alcoholism and cokehead mode.

>>71380003
how is that?

>>71379800

why not imprison G.W. Bush too?

"Say10 = satan. Clever wordplay." - a youtube poster

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Trent quit the heroin, got swole, and started banging some asian model.

Manson dont want none

>>71380013
Tront is larger then lif

>>71380063

He only used Heroin once and it killed him for several minutes because he Pulp Fictioned it thinking it was Coke, his actual narcotic of choice following a brief period smoking crack in the late eighties.

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helo this is tront

guis pls stop beign mean to brien

its not his flaut if hes got fat ok

its very hard to work out wen u dont have a famly to suport u

thank u

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>>71380063

Manson has Depp

>>71380013
Also Trent releases better music and has more talent, so there's that.

If Manson will release something better than Hesitation Marks or NTAE I'll be surprised

>>71380103
are you serious? the guy that wrote "hurt" only used heroin one time? ffs

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>>71380110

>"Alright Trent my boy. Ready to give your fans some seizures?"

>>71380145
Wouldn't be very hard, Hesitation Marks was pop garbage and NTAE is a very lazy attempt at industrial rock.

but manson doesn't really have it together anymore so who knows?

>>71380148

Hurt's heroin connection got popular when Johnny Cash suggested it was the best anti-heroin song he ever heard. Hurt's the last song in a concept album about killing, then regretting killing God.

>>71380179
embarrassing

>>71380179
what the fuck else does "the needle tears a hole, the old familiar sting" mean though

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>tfw you inspired Christian Bale's most horrifying acting transformation in The Machinist

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>>71380190
thats just steriod injections

sterodis come in litle sirynges

>>71380173
Hesitation Marks and NTAE both were really good though, Hesitation Marks had some of the best songs he has ever written and Burning Bright will be a NIN classic.

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Well if manson wants to be shocking again, the most edgy thing he could do is make some neofolk or some edgy stuff with boyd rice and piss off a bunch of normies by dawning far right aesthetics.

Making fun of trump is just the same thing every libtard is doing.

>>71380208
Baleman was trying to show Trent the way to becoming a proper rock star again.

>>71380190

Physical mutilation. The protagonist is one fucked up individual.

>>71380224
>if manson wants to be alternative he should start supporting the president elected by popular vote

you

>>71380208

Atticus' golden penis.

>>71380216
No they weren't. NTAE has interesting sounds that a more inspired musician could work into proper songs, and Hesitation Marks is some of the most forgettable synthpop I've heard in years.

>>71380238
>I AM A BIG MAN, YES I AM

>>71380234
you

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>>71380245
And I have big guns

>>71380224
that sounds like a pretty normie thing to do honestly

>>71380224
Isn't that what he's always been doing though?
Subtly playing with fascist aesthetics and philosophies?

>>71380230
I could almost buy it but honestly why a needle

why not a knife, it just doesn't sound anything like an image of self harm

>>71380242
That is all an opinion, I don't see how anything on Hesitation Marks is forgettable, Various Methods Of Escape, I Would For You are forgettable, I find that album to be an amazing package where every song is good and has something to offer one way or another with hidden sounds that are discovered upon more listens.

>>71380234
manson: "isnt le trump le dumb xDDD"

What manson could do : " actually trump is cool and good"- said while wearing a nazi uniform and running away from lynch mob

>>71380242

Hesitation Marks is prime depression core. It took me a long time to get into it admittedity, but then you start to see how disturbing the music actually is.

The man who wrote Heresy is now praying to God to help him.

The man who wrote March of the Pigs wrote a song about where he's timidly watching everyone live their lives with no fight left in him. (While I'm Still Here)

It's uncomfortably real.

>>71380286
again, it's hilarious that you picture trump supporters as this oppressed minority who are running from the society's metaphorical lynch mob when he was literally elected by popular vote

>>71380279

Yeah, I can imagine that the protagonist might be an actual drug addict as well, as it isn't Trent who he's writing about, he's killed God, dumped all his morals and embraced everything self destructive right up to rape and eventual suicide much to his horror.

TDS is an odd album to interpret beyond the surface ("Closer is about sex, Hurt is about heroin!")

yeah, i'm thinking he's back

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>Random youtuber: So this album became relevant again
>Kekposter: This album has been relevant since it's release, you've just been pretending for the past decade it hadn't.

>>71380321
Oh, yeah hollwood and newyork, the entertainment industry is ground zero of the 4th Reich.
The edgiest thing manson could do as a musician at this point is make a neofolk album and dawn fascist aesthetics and say shocking things like, maybe hitler had some good ideas.

>>71380309
>depression core
man you just dismissed your own tastes altogether right there.

What weight could the opinion of a guy who likes "depression core" conceivably have?

And all you're saying is that Hesitation Marks is embarrassingly un-rebellious. And I agree with that but it sure as hell doesn't make it good.

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>>71380224

but anon... if you're not new in the neofolk post-industrial circles you would know that unlike manson, rammstein or laibach, boyd rice and douglas pearce didn't appropriate the far-right aesthetics for means of purposeful irony.

>>71380341
rape isn't self-destructive unless you're raping an STD carrier without protection.

>>71380369

The point is, he's not acting like a 50 year old 16 year old rebellious edgelord. He's grown up, he's writing about what he's dealing with in the time he wrote the album. And being uncomfortable in your own skin can be a greater nightmare then anything you can dream up.

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Skinny Puppy did it first

Skinny Puppy did it better

Skinny Puppy did it harder.

>>71380402
>he's grown up
he's pussied out. Sure being a pussy is embarrassing but it doesn't make for good songwriting material. If it did the entirety of emo would be good.

Why can't he act like a rebellious 50 year old instead of acting like a spineless 50 year old? Doesn't he have anything to be pissed about other than himself?

That being said, his lyrics have always been about how disappointed in himself he is. But at least back in the day, the music itself didn't sound like pure self-pitying.

>>71380421
Did they stole that idea from silent hill?

>>71380421
>harder
the theatrics maybe, but their music's always been pretty soft by harsh EBM standards.

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>>71380421
manson is actually a rip off of rozz wiliams you plebe

>>71380459
that's true, but he was, like, Rozz Williams with badass riffs and more energy (but less authenticity).

>>71380435

That's a fair enough obsevration. Maybe nothing was pissing him off in 2013. Maybe he got enough rebellion out of his system follwoing Year Zero, maybe he was... content... I mean, he was still in a new marriage, being a father, maybe he was still figuring how Nine Inch Nails was going to evolve.

Like With_Teeth and Broken, Hesitation Marks might be looked back on as a transitioning period. It will all have to depend on the upcoming album.

>>71380495

observation.

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>>71380469
rozz made better music and created mansons entire aesthetic.
Manson is a talentless clown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCqaXfFJD9c

>>71380513
they were both talented clowns, honestly

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>When you attempt to hide the fact you're actually a polite, animal loving, torture hating, leafposter named Kevin by spelling your name backwards.

>>71380513
well not his ENTIRE aesthetic.

he didn't come up with the kindergarten junkie aesthetic of the Spooky Kids.

>>71380536

Spooky Kids was some good stuff honestly

>manson-thread turning into a reznor-thread
every single goddamn time

>>71380561
rezposters just can't get over the fact that Manson's success didn't depend entirely upon Reznor.

>>71380435
I think Hesitation Marks isn't rebellious, what I would call it is sincere and honest and I have a lot of respect to that. I can't call the album pussying out, as Trent must have known this calmer NIN wouldn't appeal to much people, but the different sound and approach did benefit and I can imagine looking at Hesitation Marks in years and seeing it for a very good album, like every other album it stands out.

It's the album that is the most straightforward about his drug addictions and past, it feels very open and vulnerable.

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SAY10 will unironically be aoty.

>>71380584
Oh come on. If he was "honest" he wouldn't put his feelings into a musical format with silly lyrics and synthpop instrumentals and then sell it to the masses.

Music is entertainment anyway, and there isn't much to be entertained by in Hesitation marks. Vulnerability has to be glamorized through baroque aesthetics for it to be entertaining, otherwise it's just mildly disgusting, and Reznor didn't do that on this album, he simply juxtaposed it with safe, uneventful synthpop.

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>>71380561
>>71380574


Maybe if Manson put something interesting out since pre 2005 it might be different. Maybe if he embraced age and adaptation, he might be better embraced.

Reznorposters come because there was an era when everyone expected Manson to overtake the king and leave him in the dust creatively, but not only did it not happen, Reznor actually evolved with the times.

>>71380013
Man, that sounds like the life.

>>71380623
>Music is entertainment anyway, and there isn't much to be entertained by in Hesitation marks
I think the album is entertaining from start to the end with catchy and building Copy Of A, to pretty intense In Two.

>>71380648
Reznor stopped being good around the same time Manson did, his only saving grace is that he can still do somewhat interesting stuff with electronic material.

But rezposters don't actually care about his music, they're just mystified by the narrative of the "grown-ass man who's no longer an edgy teen" despite the fact that there's nothing impressive about Reznor anymore.

>>71380536
>kindergarten junkie aesthetic of the Spooky Kids.
nice revisionism! Actually it was an idea from Daisy Berkowitz & Twiggy Ramirez

>>71379786
fucking /mu/ why you gotta be so autistic?

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The next Nails album is going to be brutal.

Trent's mom and the Grandfather who raised him died in a space of 6-8 months of each other a few years back.

You want miserable Trent back? It's coming.

>>71380679
Copy of A isn't catchy at all dude, what the fuck?

I may be biased (in the right way) because I mostly listen to riff-focused or danceable music but come the fuck on. Copy of A sounds LIMP. The vast majority of Hesitation Marks does, as a matter of fact.

>>71380695
Since when are Daisy and Twiggy the other names of Rozz Williams?

You might wanna re-read the thread, man.

>>71380321
in popular mainstream media and on social networking sites, trump supporters are the minority...

I don't think farmers in nebraska or whatever who voted for trump are gonna be listening to manson

>>71380726
youre right, Nebraskan farmers are reznor men

>>71380701
I don't want miserable Trent I want PISSED-OFF Tront. The one who puts energy into his music instead of just sprinkling funny little sound arrangements over it.

trent transitioned into old age better, you cant be the edgy fuck you like an animal guy when you are in your 50's so now he is making movie soundtracks and being a corporate shill for apple

>>71380741

Year Zero Part 2 time?

trent was corporate goth and health goth before it was some made up thing click bait blogs invented

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>>71379915
Trent doesn't even make music he worked on Call of Duty and used nothing but temp music from blockbuster films with actual producers who actually make music like Danny Elfman, Hanz Zimmer and John Williams... fucking mu/trash pearl clutching over attention craving nobodies...

>>71380375
Coincidentally, this is exactly the plot of Reptile. Heavily implied acquired herpes.

>>71380763
Year Zero wasn't quite energetic enough but sure, why not?

>>71380786

So basically you want him to reach all the way back to Broken.

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>>71380561

When one mentions him... it happens.

>>71380795
basically

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>>71380814

You should have just said that right off the bat, kek.

>another retard falls for the "trump is bad" meme
shaking my head to be honest

>>71380824
holy shit he looked so good with facial hair and long hair.

Fuck, now I'm imagining an alternate timeline where he now looks like Dracula instead of a jock dad and kept making his music creepier and creepier.

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>>71380862
BRING BACK THE TRENTSTACHE

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>>71380862

Long hair clean shaven - Snape

Long hair bearded - Sirius Black

Crew cut - Henry Rollins.

Fuck getting old and losing your hair. Reznor honestly did the right thing post With Teeth. I still remember this look and was like You're not looking too hot Reznor,

Ultimately he should have kept his hair like this.

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>>71380899

>I still remember this look and was like You're not looking too hot Reznor,

Image related

anti trump sentiments by celebrities just seems so completely childish and retarded. like, trump was one of you attention whores, he was just smart enough to manipulate the media in to getting in to the white house. if manson had donald trumps talent he would have done the same thing and he'd be spraypainting the white house black now. but no, he isn't as talented and successful as trump. he's an absinthe drinking drunkard that stabs dolls and sleeps in a coffin because he's edgy and so above it all mann.

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*turns 50*
SO YOU BE SAYIN
*watches mainstream media*
AYO HOLD UP
*avoids all legitimate videos of trump*
SO -YOU- BE SAYIN
*avoids every trump speech*
YOU BE SAYIN THAT
*joins the mainstream trump hate*
YALL BE SAYIN TRUMP
*grasps for relevance*
YALL SAY TRUMP IS HITLER?!?!?

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>random aggrotech bands make better Marilyn Manson music than Marilyn Manson himself

and this in't an isolated case either. There are SEVERAL bands that do that.

How embarrassing for poor old Brian.

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>>71379935
>Trent and Manson are both huge now, but in different places.
right, different places. trent is huge in the arms and brian is massively fat. don't try to rationalize it, fatty

trent is an aesthetic god. neither you or marilyn will ever compare

>>71381426
tront is hueg

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Trent's fat period in 2009-10 was just just the final bulk up to nowadays.

No wonder why he ended NIN in those years, he was in cocoon mode.

>>71379881
What the fuck are you talking about? The spooky kids were a industrial psych-punk band before reznor

>>71381490
yes, but T-rez produced Portrait, so I'm assuming the dipshit above was also attributing the quality of the spooky kids to Trent's skills somehow.

>>71379762

Tyler Shields murdered Manson and is attempting to assume his identity. Trump feared MM so had him silenced. So who knows when we'll see the album. It is probably admissible as evidence at this point, so damn.

>>71380825

Poseurs will always disappoint. Do you realize how many executive cocks Rez took to get where he is today? Now let me ask you: would Dracula do that?

>>71381720
Yes. As a matter of fact we do know that he took ottoman cocks as a teenager.

>>71381720
>would Dracula do that?


yes, vampires are super gay man

>>71380013

Spoken like true livestock.

>>71381720
it's a historical fact that Vlad "Tepes" Basarab was sodomized.

>>71381751

The question tho is his reason for taking cock. His and Rez's reasons differ hugely. Also, when I speak of Dracula maybe I should be precise as to the actual entity. Anyway. Reasons for a man to take a cock: go.

>>71381807

Yeah, not surprising ya'll go silent here. The Trump swallowers itt can't deal with the reasons why they bend over for him, and the real Manson fans are just like "man I was stoned and feeling the love, I don't do that shit usually" >.<

>>71382123
What's wrong with taking dick?

>>71382164

Answer your question.

>>71382511
Nothing?

>>71380362
nobody gives a shit about neofolk. thats why c93 and death in june or whatever get away with being nazis