What did angsty kids listen to before heavy metal and punk rock

this is darker than most metal songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tr0otuiQuU

>>71365415
they listened to jazz

>>71365415
folk

>>71365415
Rock music like The Beatles, Kinks, Who, and Stones.

>>71365415
There's nothing angsty about this album though?

>>71365425
Yeah it's dark but it's not energetic. What did angry young guys with lots of pent up energy listen to before rock and metal

they did sports, fist-fought, jerked off

>>71365541
skiffle

>>71365415
the blues

>>71365415
Prolly Stravinsky

>>71365606
Literally the gayest, most effeminate bullshit I've ever heard

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>>71365415
music like edgard varese and rnb

>inb4 le smug Christgau reviews

Why exactly did all the critics shit on Black Sabbath back then anyway?

>>71366313
Because it was a new genre

>>71366313
Because they were all a bunch of effeminate hippie faggots and Jews behind the times

>>71366313
I think at least some of it was that Sabbath were working class boys from Birmingham and most professional music critics were upper middle class liberal hipsters from NYC who completely failed to "get" them.

Most of these guys didn't get Devo either for similar reasons--they were from Ohio and New Yorker critics missed a lot of the context of their music. For comparison, guys like Lou Reed could be every bit as esoteric as Sabbath or Devo, but because they were New Yorkers, Christgau et al understood their message a lot better.

>>71366405
Basically what I said >>71366395

The thing about critics and punk is that punk rock has always had a bit of an artsy, Bohemian side to it, it's not really working class music in the same way metal is.

>>71365415
Black Sabbath is GOAT [spoiler]Ozzy = best era[/spoiler]

>>71366498
Is it even fair to compare Ozzy and Dio Sabbaths? They're like 2 different bands that happen to share the same name and half the band members.

We can probably just consider those first 3 Dio-Sabbath albums as Heaven & Hell

>>71366405
Devo's cover of Satisfaction is better than the original anyway since these dudes were betamax nerds, the idea that they can't get laid is entirely believable. I mean, nobody thinks a macho rock god like Mick Jagger is sexually deprived.

>>71366779
Heaven & Hell still had Butler, Iommi, and Ward playing on it. Only Ozzy was changed. The Mob Rules was when Vinny Appice replaced Bill Ward on the skins because he quit halfway through the 1980 tour due to alcohol problems and disliking the direction Dio was taking the band.

Ward actually came back in 1983 after Dio left. He played on Born Again and for the whole 83-84 tour. So that's two of the post-Ozzy albums that still had three of the original four guys on them.

In fact, Trashed was actually about a drunken road race that Ian Gillan challenged Bill Ward to while they were outside the studio one day during the recording of Born Again.

>>71366313
Christgau is like...sometimes he's spot-on about an album, other times he just writes a one sentence insult that tells you nothing useful.

>>71365415
Have you fucking listened to any folk/blues/country? It's all about murdering women and such. Much darker than any Black Sabbath. And back then, when they were in the middle of World Wars and Great Depressions, stuff like Black Sabbath or Sex Pistols would have been laughable.

>>71366955
Was Mick Jagger a sex god in 1965? I think not...if anything, that song would have made him one, before that they were just a generic Beatles cover band

Anyway, the only essential version of that song is by Otis Redding

>>71365541
Hard Bop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZgP_Ak0L-w

>>71366313

Because Deep Purple was sorta around back then, so they drew heavy comparisons between them

Most of the critics in 1970 thought rock music should be sped-up country.

>>71367676
Protip: A lot of the stereotypical metal themes about Satan and evil women came from the blues

They listened to rock and roll.

>>71367676
what are good folk music to listen to?

>>71367224
Heaven and Hell album was Dio, Iommi, Appice and bassist Craig Gruber

>>71365415
Swing. watch swing kids. shit movie

>>71365415
The sound of a shotgun going off.

>>71367676
Ah yes, Christgau had said that Woodie Guthrie was darker than anything 60s folkies like Joan Baez could dream of and that country music is where the truest singer-songwriters are found, and there's more honesty in one Hank Williams song than Jackson Browne's entire discography.

>>71369392
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven_and_Hell_(Black_Sabbath_album)#Personnel

No it wasn't.

>>71365415
Tear in your beer Country?