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Papa James edition
Old >>71196048
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>>71212279
What does a table have to do with metal?
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Why is /metal/ so slow now. Are we finally kill?
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>>71212415
It should be kill anyway. It seems like 80% of the threads are dedicated to calling every single band under the sun either a meme band or a nu-male band. It's like the only way to "win" is to stick to the fuck-you-I-like-it mentality
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>>71212415
Have you ever considered that it is currently 12:16 eastern burger time
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>>71212415
its because the majority of those who actual listen to metal are sick of the "its just a meme bro" cucks, so they've gone to places where discussion is worth the light of day.
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anyone has a link for Violet Cold - Magic Night?
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>>71212580
My point exactly as expressed in >>71212450
Why do we even bother coming here if the community is so cannibalistic?
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>>71212450
Your first problem is taking those posts seriously
Your second is replying to those posts

if everyone just used common sense there'd be no issues
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>>71212753
As long as you don't give a shit about YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOJeYXDpYZo
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>>71212753
It's on soulseek
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>>71212762
Just for the record, I only took them half-seriously, and I very rarely replied.
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Slam is fake metal
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What are you lads listening to?

>tfw I'm the first person on Spotify to listen to this album
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>>71212857
BESTIAL AS FUCK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr8Jk6O_nnY&t=290s
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>>71212857
b o i
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>>71212857
>>71212883
Also just finished this before Proclamation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuB-465qO3U
Same dudes behind War.Cult.Supremacy by Conqueror.
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>>71212580
Places such as...
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>>71212778
for download I mean
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>>71212932
Not the same guy but my guess was local concerts
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>>71212932
kek

he's probably talking about r/metal
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>>71212932
si nwn ma dla ps even rym

if you have to ask you do not know
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>>71212857
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EATT2D7HN4w

Some good shit.
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>>71212967
WELL then I don't know, you're fucked m8
Have you checked the normally accessible torrent sites? If you wanna download them to your phone, there's a few YouTube downloader apps floating around IIRC.
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>>71212857
it's gud
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>>71212580
Ring-a-ding ding
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>>71212986
>metal discussion
>rym

fucking W H E R E
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>>71213036
forums or people that make metal lists
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>>71212988
nearly perfect
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>>71212804
"sure"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX_Cwb94U8c

Can this be a meme, please

P.L.E.A.S.E
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>>71212975
>double spacing like that
toplmao, are you fresh from there?
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>>71212972
kek
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>>71212415
I just got a warning for none substantial discussion but I just don't got it in me man, I'm just over here with Heavy Metal 2000
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>>71212997
all of you fucknuggets better be fookin with flac or your plebs
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>>71213204
>this entire sentence and it's construction
>it calls other people "plebs"
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true or not true
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>>71213219
all of you fucknuggets better be fookin with FLAC or you're a bunch of plebs
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>>71213227
"no"
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>>71213163
https://youtu.be/tN1s_LyuOWI
Can this be too, pretty pls
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>>71213018
is it really though?
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>>71213290
I think it is. Solid 8/10 personally
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>>71213227
128kbps upconverted to FLAC
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>>71212997
yeah, checked torrents and other sites, they only have the other 2 albums, can't find magic night
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>>71213297
>128kbps upconverted to FLAC
ew
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@71212544
I henceforth banish this list from the halls of metal once and forevermore.

BEGONE!
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>>71213299
S O U L
E
E
K
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>>71212450
>>71212762
I really thought the point was to be the worst at taste as possible so your band being called shit was the goal
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>>71213299
rip
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>>71213297
my whole slsk upload folder that is consistently active
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>>71213317
Not many people here are in bands, far as I'm aware.
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>>71213309
kek
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>>71213324
terrible
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>>71213296
might czech it
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>>71213328
At least not big enough to catch /metal/'s attention
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>>71213176
>cares about spacing


oh look another faggot
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post sleeping meal lads for a good night rest :^)
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>>71213328
Your favorite band or whatever you're currently talking about that people said it sucked, you know.

Female singers>male singers
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>>71213367
I would if I were a girl who had a repository of such things.
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>>71213333
quads confirm, anon is a stinker :^)
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>>71213362
plebbit leave now
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>>71213372
That's entirely a minority for /metal/ posters. Oh wait, that's what it was like back when I was a regular.

If you're talking about growled vocals, there are few truly "good" female vocalists in the industry.
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>>71213384
dam...
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>>71213384
nigga wot?
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>>71213313
how to use it?
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>>71213425
>FOAD.jpg

>Varg
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>>71213367
Basil Poledouris even if not metal
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Anybody else all about this New Wave of Traditional Heavy Metal? I'm at the point where I want to start a fucking band or a label or something. Speedtrap, Skullfist, White Wizzard, they're all fucking awesome.
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>>71213483
Fuck off and die m8
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>>71213453
Anon asked for pictures of metalheads, presumably "cute", laying their majestic locks down for sleep.
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>>71213484
>meal
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>>71213524
where tf did you get that from m8
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>>71213491
aye lad
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>>71213483
lmao still double spacing I see
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Metal is postmodernism music
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>>71213542
>>71213491
>no Axxis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9yPpB7iSGI
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>>71213542
Thank you so much, I'm going to look into every single one of those bands. I'm obsessed with this right now. This is the coolest and most organic movement in metal right now.
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>>71213559
eat pito
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>>71213549
you tryna fuck??
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>>71213594
Nah
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>>71213534
Oh I see I thought you meant sleeping music
https://youtu.be/dimou1TiB5M
Night lads
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>>71213309
you know this pic was taken in like 06 or 07. good tiemps :'(

metal for this feel?
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>>71213540
>sleeping meal lads
>sleeping metalhead boys
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>>71213559
absolutely not
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>>71212826
So is glam and weebgrind, thats why this general loves those genres so much
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>>71212544
>no metal gf to peg me
Why live bros?
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>>71212544
>casually inserting good albums into nu-male tripe
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>>71213880
Why are people still getting triggered by this?
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>>71213894
because metalheads have huge egos
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>>71213911
metal egos are only good for flaunting in front of other metal listeners. I'd like to meet the sad bastard who talks in extensive detail about metal to normies unwarranted.
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>>71213911
Is ot possible to like metal without being a "metalhead"?
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>>71213754
slayer
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>>71213778
only a fucking faggit would interpret it like that
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>>71213959
yes
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>>71212544
this chart is stupid, there's a handful of legitimate albums on there.
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>>71213988
t. nu-male
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>>71213938
>the sad bastard who talks in extensive detail about metal to normies unwarranted
reporting
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>>71213988
you took the bait son
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>>71212544
I'm surprised dopethrone or come my fanatics aren't on here
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>>71214038
Dopethrone was on there. I requested Harakiri for the Sky, and anon obliged.

t. day one fan of this chart
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>>71214105
>tfw hate cuck metal but love Dopethrone
Dopethrone for this feel?
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>>71213959
Yes, but in all likelihood they will never be able to appreciate all spectrums of metal.
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>>71214281
Who the fuck cares
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Post poser repellent
Hard mode: no suffocation
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>>71214363
Voivod
Graveland
Cirith Ungol
Demolition Hammer
Arghoslent
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>>71212857
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>>71214363
THE GREAT KAT!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>71212544
Warning - Watching From A Distance
Weakling - Dead As Dreams
Insomnium - Above The Weeping World
Katatonia (discography)
The DSBM sub-genre in it's entirety
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>>71214436
*pat*
*pat*
*pat*
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>>71214436
nice kat
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>>71214347
That's a lot of great experiences that will go missing from that person's life. There's value in everything, if you have a good enough perspective to see it.
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>>71214496
>someone unironically believes this
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>>71214436
metal for autists
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>>71214919
>he doesn't get great experiences from each sub-genre of metal
I'm just sayin' that's sad to me, man. To know you'll never have those same awesome experiences I had.
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https://youtu.be/M-ySzHAT4Hs
https://youtu.be/na-RPGY3rAs
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>>71212544
The entire metal genre is for nu-males
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>>71214281
What do you mean by this
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>>71214928
If thats metal for autists i want to be autistic
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>seen toxik think this a bunch on thrash charts
>acoustigay intros
>Boo hoo homeless people on the cold streets guise
>not once have I seen a single fucker here recommend world circus
>an album so diabolicaly radical it'll give you wood if you listen to it

What the fuck is wrong with you memeing homos?
Did you get dropped on your head as a shit machine?
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>>71212415
soon we will make a big comeback
the rise of the hippys demands it
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>>71215359
anon...
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>>71213163
I WANT SOME PUSSY
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>>71214980
Please share some awesome mallcore experiences you've had bro
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>>71213163
WHEN I STICK THE DICK IN
YOUR GONNA CUM
AND I'M GONNA HAVE FUN
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metal was good, but it seems like one guy spamming the same shit over and over again and no actual discussion or anyone posting music.

There is a conspiracy against metal!
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>>71214980
>I'm just sayin'
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6 12 17
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RIP MortuusInSomnis
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>>71212857
this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uggCd-nLXgw
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>>71214363
>Post poser repellent

Anything with harsh vocals my dude
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Can you guys rec me some decent Black Metal? I'm still exploring the genre.

I'm really into

>Judas Iscariot
>Xasthur
>In The Woods
>Early Darkthrone

If that's any reference
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>>71216044
>harsh vocals
>poser repellent
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>>71216056
there is none
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>>71212544

>Enjoying metal
>Not enjoying pegging

Get off my board you sick fuck
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>>71216056
Late Mayhem, Horna, Absu, Fleurety, Arcturus, Borknagar, Ulver, Emperor, Abigor, Burzum.
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>>71214363
Glam metal and i'm being serious
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>>71216056
Agalloch, Sunbather, Oathbreaker, Wigrid, Immortal
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>>71216056
Cultes des Ghoules, Leviathan, Mutillation, Mgla
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>>71216099
Dokkens rad
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>>71212857
Wog thrash
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>>71212857
First time listening to this, can't believe I didn't listened to it sooner.
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REC me soome really good symphonic metal?
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HEY ADVAITA
WHEN ARE YOU GONNA RELEASE A NEW ALBUM?

I NEED MY FIX OF GOOD TRANSCENDENTAL BLACK METAL CAUSE HHH SURE AS HELL ISN'T GONNA PROVIDE IT
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How's Aathma?
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Bonjour
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>>71216343
"Sisisi La Famine" always kills me.
Any infos on a release date?
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>>71216343
SI SI LA FAMINE!
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>>71214436
>wants to resurrect Beethoven
>isn't even German
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>Can into Meloblack
>Can into Symphoblack
>Can into Industrial Black
>Can into Blackened Death
>Can into Motorhead riffs with Black vocals
>Can into War Black

>Can't stand normal black

Not even Immortal and Mayhem does it for me

What do
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>>71217096
nothing; you're fine
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New Forsaken Vulture is sick.
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>>71216952
But she IS the reincarnation of Beethoven!
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does somebody have a translation of that moonrune link where babymetal is doing a collab with a fucking goregrind band?
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>>71217096
>can into industrial black
okay but can you into aggroblack?
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>>71217392
>Pic

Literally who ?
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>>71217463
dawn of ashes
former aggotech band now doing industrial black metal with aggrotech elements (kinda like psyclon nine)
also, they did a blackened cover of a nine inch nails song
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>>71217365
huh? I'm a Babymetal aficionado and I never heard of that
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>>71216099
WE'RE THE DREEAM WARRIOOORS
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>>71215599
I think it's multiple guys. If it isn't, then that is beyond pathetic
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>>71217512
>I'm a Babymetal aficionado
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>>71215420
eat pito
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>>71216056
venom
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>>71216081
fag
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>>71217096
I realize this may sound like blasphemy, but you could just not like black. You don't need to like every genre and sub-genre of metal. Hell, you don't even need to like extreme metal.
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>>71217662
How does it feel like to be a meme loving fuck
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What's the most metal soundtrack of all time?
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post death metal with added SPESS
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>>71217728
eat dick
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>>71214363
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>>71217096
This >>>>71217785
Listen what you like
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>>71218028
>>
Guys which is the best website to play black metal CD's?
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>>71218289
*buy I mean
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hey this isn't so bad
their best album yet in fact
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We do you guys get your music recommendations? rym is a nu-male central, do that's a no-go
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>>71218371
rym, but the bottom chart
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>>71218379
>rym, but the bottom chart
What's a bottom chart?
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>>71218371
rym
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>>71218371
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>>71218399
http://rateyourmusic.com/customchart?page=1&chart_type=bottom&type=album&year=alltime&genre_include=1&include_child_genres=1&genres=metal&include_child_genres_chk=1&include=both&origin_countries=&limit=none&countries=

literally anti-nu-male core

>how far down until you find an album you actually like?
#6 for me desu
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>>71217365
lad what are you talking about

I can help
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>>71217365
Shit man is this bait
I'm not up on sub genres so I maybe heard it
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>>71213435
I'm not really into too much growled vocals, am I a posevr? I like to look the lyrics up to 'hear a song twice' but that's usually another language
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New Benighted is SICK
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>>71218666
Nice.
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>>71217392
>>71217486
I enjoyed The Crypt Injection when I was an edgy-ass teen but their foray into metal was such tripe. Psyclon Nine made a much more graceful transition into industrial BM.
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>>71218436
>new Suicide Silence already 35th
Haha wow
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Steel Panther is like Spinal Tap if they were painfully unfunny
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>>71218782
What's some good funny metal that's not Crotchduster?
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The older I get the more and more I like Deathcore and Metalcore. Are any other Metalbros like this?
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>>71218793
Mammal Sauce is the pinnacle of comedy metal.
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do you think jakub zytecki ever played half-life
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>>71218813
I can appreciate the song Bludgeoned to Death by Suicide Silence, but honestly I much prefer the Deathcore/Brutal Death hybrid bands like Vulvodynia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13i8lYlYxXg
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>>71218793
opeth
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>>71218836
I've downloaded some Suicide Silence but haven't listened to it yet.

>np
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>>71218889
One away from quads
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>the main guys from deafheaven used to be in a deathgrind band
>it's actually really fucking good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XO1unMi2t38
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>>71218813
I've come to appreciate a few deathcore bands like Animosity, Until We Die, Disfiguring the Goddess, Kardashev, Science of Sleep and The Raven Autarchy, but vanilla metalcore bores me. At least deathcore has that 'punch' that it borrows from DM, but metalcore will forever sound like angsty teens to me. Early Killswitch Engage is okay I guess. Also this >>71218836
Vulvodynia is from my country; feels good man
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYvjaVO4ws8
so good
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>>71218832
yes
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>>71213227
THEY LITERALLY ALL SOUND THE SAME
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>>71212415
/metal/ died when what.cd died.
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>>71219114
wew I just now learned what.cd died. Good thing I never bothered with that interview.
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>>71218949
>it's actually really fucking good
This is the same as all the other atmospheric nu-male sludge/hardcore like The Body or Fall Of Efrafa
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*****************************************

are you faggots ready for


ALBUM OF THE YEAR ??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!


O FUCKKKKK


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>>71219332
in part yeah, but nah it's faster and more chaotic than those for the most part
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>>71219470
But the aoty already came out.
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Name a more perfect performance

https://youtu.be/mrc2M7cNPWk
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>>71218704
I disagree.
it's uneven but there's lots of good bits.
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Check out the new Aseethe album, one of my favorite drone/doom groups

https://noisey.vice.com/en_ca/article/the-midwestern-doom-of-aseethe
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>>71219540
meme song
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opinions?
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>>71219712
those cogs can't turn, they're locked against each other
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>>71219712
overkill cannot make a bad album
alot of it sounds the same, but fuck it, its overkill
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any brasil in
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>>71219784
hue
>>
>babymetal tries to get a bunch of smokers to woooo with them
I feel kinda bad for everyone
Is crowd callback a common thing?
>>
>>71218115
this
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>>71218042
eat verga
>>71218289
cd baby
>>
>>71218417
kek
>>
>>71218724
wew lad
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>>71218856
Opeth is a big joke
>>
>>71218978
dats cuz animosity slaps bro
>>
>>71219484
I'ma czech
>>
>>71219211
same
>>
>>71219532
>But the aoty already came out.
link?
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>>71219755
>overkill cannot make a bad album
>alot of it sounds the same, but fuck it, its overkill
This so fucking much
>>
>>71212544
>albums that every m'etalhead jerked himself raw over until they became "too popular"

This is a terrible genre with terrible fans.
>>
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LAKE
OF
FIRE
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>>71220275
cool projection
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>>71220212
I'm sharing it right now on soulseek.
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>>71220373
I can't get into soul. Are they on Bandcamp?
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>>71212857
I'm a sucker for them because they're local lads.

They're also fucking great, which helps.
>>
>>71219540
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ_VFJn2kJM
>>
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djent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMoKE9eHRPI
>>
New Ghost Bath lads

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6Ez_MHbVAE&feature=youtu.be
>>
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this is hella sick lads
>>
>>71220394
nvm found em
>>
>>71217096
Delete this image
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>>71220301
this record mane
>>
>>71220455
more djent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2M7gby5yqTQ
>>
>>71220461
of course it is
>>
>>71218949
christ this is bad
>>
>>71220458
That guitar solo is so fucking bad.
Still alright, I actually like the vocals unlike most people.
>>
>>71220396
Holy shit
>>
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Lost Horizon, Blind Guardian, and Helloween are the only good power metal bands
>>
actually more djent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbaVhDQfa3I
>>
>>71220458
What's with the anime opening section?
>>
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>>71217982
>>
>>71220617
Lemme give Lost Horizon a listen then I'll see if it's tru. So far it is with Blind Guardian and Helloween.
>>
>>71214413
great fucking band, that album 40 minutes long but it feels like 20

10/10 taste
>>
>>71220617
you forgot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prBxPljqt0M
>>
>>71220275
This, some metal fans always seem to be trying their hardest to kill the genre.
>>
>>71219540
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXXJOEZPPXQ
>>
>>71212329
It's the table that is the narrator of a documentary about the danger of porn.
>>
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>>71220617
WROOONG
>>
>>71219540
x japan more like y japan lol
>>
What are some black metal bands that use d beat ?
>>
>>71220275
Half of that chart isn't even metal, it's buttrock with extra distortion
>>
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>>71219540
good choice
>>
>>71220961
what a cute girl
>>
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>>71220275
>STILL replying to that bait

fucking why
>>
>>71220301
Androids from the gamma quadrant moving at the speed of death !
>>
>Suicide
>Silence

pick one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_qNVDOeCag

Why does it sound like 3 different deftones songs?
>>
>>71221041
not going to listen

wasn't the vocalist attacking their fans on fb who said the song was bad?
>>
>>71219470
kek, this album has jewish themes.

it's like they're actively trying to piss off actual bm fans
>>
>>71221080
yea the new vocalist and this is the third single now
>>
>>71221102
>it's like they're actively trying to piss off actual bm fans

Probably the easiest demographic of people to piss off, too. I don't know if that's irony, but it's something.
>>
>>71221156
what a manchild

I guess if you're pushing 40 and playing deathcore you have to be one
>>
>>71221205
I don't think this is deathcore. Is it deathcore?
>>
this is cool as fuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bhuGplZQD8
>>
>>71221228
well, i don't know what they're doing now and don't really care. they used to be
>>
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Every dmu article

>funderground
>beer metallers
>marxism
>linear riff progression
>gorgorth
>immortal
>hipsters
>drunken moshing
>indie metal
>black n roll
>death n roll
>>
>>71212544

>Pantera

WALK ON HOME BOY
>>
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I-it's going to suck big balls, am I right?
>>
>>71221479
I don't know.
>>
>>71220458
It's good
>>
>>71221479
i'll give it a chance, but the last single was probably the worst song they've ever written and this is coming from someone who likes the hunter
>>
>>71220881
just to add to this
>Gamma Ray
>Iced Earth
>Hammerfall
>Sabaton
and anything with Dio in it
>>
>>71221526

The Hunter isn't that bad, I think Once More 'Round The Sun it's worse
>>
>>71220617
but muh keldian
>>
METAL ON METAL
>>
>>71221479
One of the tracks is actually pretty good. I really like it.

The other track is the worst thing they've ever done.

At best I think its going to be a mixed bag. And when I heard the first track I was legitimately excited about Mastodon for the first time in a long time.
>>
Deathcore is good music.
>>
>>71221812
good post
>>
>>71221479
Sultan's Curse sounded p great to me.

And then I heard Show Yourself. What a shitshow. I really want to like Mastodon again but they're not making it easy.
>>
I WANNA GO, I WANNA GO, I WANNA GO
HOT ROCKIN
>>
Why do people praise Terminal Redux that much? It's simply put regular Thrash Metal with more autistic riffs and longer songs.

I mean, i got nothing against it, it's just not worth all the praise.
>>
>>71221890
dilettante journalists eat that shit up
>>
Listening to new Suicide Silence right now
Holy shit the vocals are so bad I can't stop laughing
>>
>>71221845
good reply
>>
>>71221904
TEE HEEEEE
>>
>>71221904
Doris is kind of a nice song. I don't even mind the teehees.

But did they make a good change for the new album? Absolutely not.
>>
>>71221904
Not much worse than their old stuff
>>
post real metal, with hooks
none of that cookie monster vocals shit
>>
>>71221890
Because that mix i surprisingly unique and good.
>>
>>71222063
Hooks are the worst
>>
>>71222063

machinehead - is there anybody out there?
>>
>>71222063
>hooks
isn't that what wiggers call a chorus?
>>
>>71222063
I AM THE WHITE GHOST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGWEEpepNp4
>>
>>71221902
this isn't /v/, no one cares about journalists or critics and things move by word of mouth
>>71222063
leave the hall
>>
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Is this an accurate description?
>>
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>>71220461
this is better:
>>
>>71222120
It is F A L S E
>>
>>71222127
Kek saved
>>
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>>71222063
>>
>>71222120
>black metal, grindcore, death metal, hardcore and doom
well maybe if it was actually supposed to describe Anaal Nathrakh's 2000s albums
>>
>>71222164
>tfw just realised Anaal Nathrakh is blackcore
>>
>>71222067
Yeah, i realize pioneering something will absolutely have a good review, But still. I'd rather lsiten to some album that would mix hardcore, melodeath, thrash metal, grindcore etc.

And no, i am not talking about deathcore.
>>
>>71222164
the non-irony here is that AN are crypto-deathcore
>>
>>71222182
>mix hardcore, melodeath, thrash metal, grindcore
into the trash
>>
New thread

>>71222194
>>
>>71214436
the great QT
>>
>>71222185
now yes but ten years ago not so much
>>
Power Trip finally dropped what could be potentially AOTY bois
https://powertripsl.bandcamp.com/album/nightmare-logic
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