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"We're feminist, we support homosexuality and individualism, we're in favor of a transparent world leadership."

Do you think most of their edgy teenage fanbase would be listening to them if they knew this?
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>>71197841
whats wrong with supporting those things?
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>>71197845
He didn't say anything about right or wrong.
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>>71197845
Found the cuck.
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>>71197857
found alt-reich /pol/tard
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>>71197841
the white liberal teens and early 20 something fanbase agrees with them...
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>>71197887
Nothing wrong with that. We president now.
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>>71197841
I'm a fan, got a DG tshirt too
Right-wing here desu

I usually avoid looking into artists' political views, no matter which they are

I think it's childish to disregard one's talent because of such things
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>>71197919
you're a good man
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aw
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>>71197931
well apart from being right wing
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>>71197903

haha
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>>71197931
thanks dad :)
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>>71197975
Not every right wing person is anti-social towards lefties
I'm very civil even though I maintain my political views open

But things I dwelve in such as sports, music, societies, do not need to be tainted by useless political discussions. I know full well that there's much I don't know, but it is simply a coincidence drawn from my philosophical views, and not some spite I have developed from seeing politicians on TV. Hope you have a good day lad :3333
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>>71197975
Is this that left-wing "tolerance" that I've heard so much about?
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>transperent world leadership

what kind of libcuck wet dream are you livin buddy ?
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>>71197841
>feminist
>support homosexuality
Pick one.
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>we support homosexuality
lets be honest here gays are pretty gross
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>>71198079
THE TOLERANT LEFT WING IS AT IT AGAIN MAINSTREAM METEOR HILLARY CLINTON
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>>71198161
PJW is a fag, but he's right 80% of the time.
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>>71198180
>but he's right 80% of the time
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>>71198030
was just kidding bb

>>71198079
tolerance doesn't mean i have to like you
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Great, the children came to visit the thread.
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>>71197903
i'm not left-wing myself but you're pathetic
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>>71198196
Nice argument.
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>>71198180
PJW tricks unintelligent people into thinking he's smart because he has a British accent.
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>>71198268
>Nice argument.
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>>71198276
Same with Milo and Sargon
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>>71198206
Are you referring to the alt-righters? Ignoring the fact that /mu/ is full of literal 15 year olds who circle jerk Kanye West and J Cole?
Seriously, we're probably the second youngest board behind /b/
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>>71198104
>he can't into benis
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Seriously though DG are trash and their music has always been awful.
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>>71198326
>Ignoring the fact that /mu/ is full of literal 15 year olds who circle jerk Kanye West and J Cole?
>j cole
when? when? ive literally never seen a post on here about j cole unless it's mocking him you fucking dumb ape
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>>71198243
>i'm not left-wing
>i don't take sides

Found the pathetic edgy loser
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>>71198412
not really
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>>71198093
...why?
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Fuck. Why is it that every band I end up liking are a bunch of fucking lib-tards.

So much for listening to Death Grips. It sucks because I really liked The Money Store.
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>>71198161
>right dude communicates like a normal human being
>lefty can only communicate in retarded trendy memespeak
Got a laugh out of me.
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>>71198661
you didn't liked it yesterday
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>>71198323
Is Sargon still a thing? Lol that fucking high school dropout pseudo-intellectual needs to go away
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>>71198326
If you don't know board culture please lurk more

>>71198412
They have some cringe tracks. Mostly on No Love Deep Web but those emotions actually came from a place of darkness. It is just presented weird
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>>71198750
What the fuck are you talking about my guy
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>>71198816
He is literally more intellectual than any prominent figure on the left, and I don't even like the guy.
Name one left-wing journalist or commentator more intellectual than Sargon.
Every time I listen to left-wing radio, or turn on CNN, it's just "Fuck white people and fuck Trump! Here's why Sharia Law is actually a good thing!"
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>>71198743
have you even ever been on /pol/ and /tv/?
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>>71198873
This
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>>71198838
wouldn't you like to know
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>>71198873
youre honestly retarded

>>>reddit
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>>71198661
This tho
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>>71198881
there's /b/etter places on the net desu
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>>71198906
>proving my point
Nice ad hominem fallacy. I asked you to name a prominent figure on the left who can compete with Sargon intellectually.
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>>71197841
i really really really like this banana

also political views i'm a girl btw
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>>71197903
Nice approval ratings
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>>71198505

Male homosexuality is an even worse form of misogyny, like you hate women to the point you don't even want to objectify them
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>>71198932
calling out fallacies isn't an argument
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>>71198906
>couldnt name one so shouted reddit at him
nice
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>>71198873
>intellectual
>studied arts and has opinions
No. Political science is not a real science. You guys are too stupid for real science
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>>71198873
Sargon gets btfo if he actually tries to debate actual academics lmao. He himself admits this
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>>71198661
pathetic m8
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>>71198881
This is neither /pol/ nor /tv/ so I don't see how that's relevant you fucking muppet.
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>>71197919
this 2bh
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>>71198972
Where is your argument? I'm still waiting for you to name somebody.
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>>71198973
https://www.change.org/p/universities-suspend-social-justice-in-universities

>this
>intellectual
I'm lmoaing at you so bad right now
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>>71198988
>Triggered that bad over a 4chan post

Lol. Kys faggot
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>>71198661
>hating a band for having seperate political views
im definitely more right leaning than left but as long as the musics good who gives a fuck?
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>>71198104
>he doesn't routinely practice his fugging skills on some fresh boipussi

no homo btw
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>>71199007
>This petition will be delivered to: UNIVERSITIES
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>>71198661
>not listening to an artist because you don't agree with their political views
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>>71199014
>Social justice has become scientifically illiterate, logically unsound, deeply bigoted and openly supremacist
Where's the lie? Have you ever even been on a college campus?
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>>71199055
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>>71199055
Truth hurts him.
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>>71198873
>can't even speak English properly
>intellectual

fuck off m8. If you've lived in English-speaking countries all your life and you still can't use your prepositions correctly you're a bit of a mong

>>71199044
kek
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>>71198104
>2017
>Not having sex with men
Pleb
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>>71199055
ya a lot
I assume you haven't at all
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>>71199086
>yfw
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>Name your intellectual YouTube channel Sargon of Akkad
>Use a completely head as your avatar

I sure hope you guys don't do this
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>>71198661
>Isolating yourself to only artists that share your political views even though they don't constantly create content related to their views
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>we're feminist

>Find a whore and it could happen
>But it's nothin', cause you're drunk and you'll be blackin' out before you even get a chance to think 'bout what you're doing
>Start to pondering rape, me, I'm all about the face
>Bitch bitch BITCH BITCH
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>>71199130
Is English your second language or something?
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>>71199138
that song is supposed to be mocking people who think that way or at least presenting them in a bad light iirc.
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>>71198661
>having a sense of self so fickle that you cannot even handle contrary viewpoints that could hurt your own worldview

>being this fuckin' beta
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>>71199142
fuck
*>use a completely different head as your avatar

not foreign, just retarded
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>>71199130
I doubt he even knows who sargon is and just thought it sounded call as his name
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>>71199185
If you're going to samefag this hard at least sober up enough so you don't make 50 fucking typos per post. Shit's blatantly obvious.
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>>71199252
I'm not samefagging
theres literally zero typos in that post
youre fucking stupid like actually stupid
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>>71199024
I'm not "le triggered xD," I'm just pointing out that you're retarded if you can't separate art and artist
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>>71199119
better to be that than a pleb
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>>71197919
Agreed. It's best to judge an artist based off his artistic ability rather than his political views.

But if he's bad at what he does AND he also happens to have political views that disagree with your, go fucking ham. We do it all the time over at /v/.
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>>71199360
Don't speak for /v/, we literally never fucking do that
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>>71199278
>thought it sounded call

>DuckDuckGo search "call definition"
>open link titled "Call | Definition of Call by Merriam-Webster"
>ctrl+f "adj"
>0 results
???
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>>71199158
tbqh I started hating Moby because he keeps pushing his vegan shit everywhere to the point where his music isn't even relevant anymore
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>>71197841
He clearly said that he meant it in a way that he'll treat a woman the same way he treats a man. Ride launched a girl off stage.

If only people didn't take things out of context like the kikes they are.
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>>71199464
slut
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>>71199393
not really a typo i just had a phone call on my mind
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>>71198661
>fuck why can't everyone just hate black people and women like I do?
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>>71199520
Interesting point
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>>71199380
/v/ literally birthed a movement harassing women for having opinions they don't like
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>>71197903
Bannon is not your guy, Trump is not your guy, they'll dump you when you inevitably lose the culture war
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>>71199185
Sargon refuses to watch videos longer than 3 minutes and routinely cites papers he hasn't read past the first paragraph. I've never seen someone be so successful at being as obtuse as humanly possible.
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>>71199584
to quote dk, "you'll be the first to go" if trumptards got the fascist state they wanted, trump sure as fuck wouldn't be keeping around the angry, hostile virgins
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>>71199555
Vicariously i
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>>71199636
live
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>>71199649
While the whole world dies
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>>71199555 (((You)))
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>>71198276
literally this
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>>71198323
the only thing that separates these guys and the amazing atheist is being english
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>>71197841
definitely not like death grips to say stuff ironically
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>>71198969
Nobody but retarded teenagers on Tumblr actually thinks this.
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>>71198873
if sargon was intellectual, then he'd be a proper intellectual instead of a internet warrior that couldn't stand to say any of his opinions not behind the computer screen with a cartoon avatar.
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>>71197903
>we president now
>/pol/, when forced to choose between being anti-establishment and edgy, chooses edgy every time

fucking wew
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bump for interest
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>>71200137
Which choice was the anti-establishment choice again?
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>>71200104
not even retarded tumblr teenagers believe this desu
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>>71200178
the exploitative narcissist choice
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>>71199584
>when you loose the culture war
So I guess lefties really do think that doubling down on their idiotic crusade of scrutinizing everything and calling everything fascist is how they will win the culture war. I sincerely hope you keep it up with that to keep proving to the world how insane you all are
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>>71200178
none of the choices were anti-establishment

hillary was more "anti-establishment" than trump

bernie was more "anti-establishment" than hillary and trump

american politics are shit
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>>71200281
does emotional abuse make me the insane one? ask the abuser, it's probably me doing it to myself, obviously
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>>71200293
>hillary
>more anti-establishmen than trump
Is this what Poe's Law looks like?
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>>71200338
whatever satisfies you
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>>71200338
Friend I understand that you've gone all in on the Trump thing and I know he talked about draining the swap and all of that nonsense but have you not noticed that Trump is a billionaire that has nominated other billionaires to his administration? Have you not noticed the civil liberties that are being threatened by the Trump administration, the clear conflicts of interest associated with Trump... I mean, have you been paying attention at all?

I am NOT saying Clinton is anti-establishment, but you're a fool if you think Trump has done anything even remotely in the best interests of the the American people.
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>>71200432
And you;re a fool if you think I'm saying he the man of the people. To imply Hillary is any better is only possible if these elections are the very first time you've ever heard the name "Clinton". You're fucking daft.
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Name 5 news outlets you keep up with most frequently, /mu/.
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>>71197903
Pretty much all trump supporters that aren't my 70 year old racist grandma or salty cucked white guys who feel threatened by anyone slightly different from them are fucking shit posters who somehow memed a reality tv star into presidency. No intelligent person seriously believes he'll be a good president.
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bamp
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>>71200503
the daily general, but i think they call it the general daily now
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>>71197903
>being a literal cuck
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>people will listen to the music charles manson made but people will quit listening to death grips because of this retarded unintelligent poltard drivel
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>>71200603
No one even said they would stop listening but it's just a bit disappointing
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>>71200603
post cock
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>>71200480
No, I'm likely older than you and I am well aware of what both Hillary and Bill have done in politics. Hillary is better by definition because she wouldn't have done things like attempt to bar Muslims from entering this country, repeal laws made to protect women/trans rights, waste tax payer money on wall fueled by nothing but xenophobia or repeal healthcare for millions of Americans. If you can't see that, that's your problem, but uh, emails I guess.
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>>71200503
P4k
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>>71200600
that meme is popular with the girls
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>>71200503
/pol/ and Buzzfeed sometimes
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>>71198326
Since when does /mu/ like J Cole?
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>>71200603
This.

>huh? varg is a nazi and murdered someone? wow, I like him even more!
>huh? devin was posting about how much he hates niggers on 4chan? wow, I like diiv now!
>huh? a band I like says women and black people are kind of okay, wow, how disappointing, brb deleting catalog
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>>71200637
>>71200654
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>>71197841
Feminism is the only thing wrong with their views.
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Can't we go one day on /mu/ without having a /pol/ related thread?
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>>71200720
Nope. Apparently to poltards their shit belongs everywhere.
Poltards are the new bronies.
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>>71200636
>an absolute historical war monger promising to kick up shit with Russia during her elections is far worse than a man wanting control over illegal immigration and abortion
You don't need the e-mails. Her track record is enough. But hey that's not important. Let's focus on demographic and identity politic shitflinging.
>I'm likely older than you
Yeah, I can tell.
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>>71200720
Nope, this is a concentrated effort by the nazis at /pol/ to spread their shit everywhere.
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>>71198104
You realize that /mu/ is one of the most gay boards, right? you are either a complete newfag or just retarded
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>>71200761
>>71200807
We should unironically have three /pol/ boards,
/pol1/ for the alt-right faggots, /pol2/ for the lefty nu-males and a standard /pol/ for discussions and shitposting
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>>71200798
Trump doesn't have a shady political past because he's not a politician. This is the problem. You can point to pretty much any politician, point out something negative from their history and compare that to saintly Trump but it doesn't really make much sense.

And dude, let's not just brush over a violation of womens' rights, religious intolerance, lack of healthcare to millions and blatantly transphobic policies.
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>>71200709
yeah if only they hated women as much as i did
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>>71200866
Non-sequitur?
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>>71200876
meta
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>>71200847
>abortion restrictions
>violation of womens' rights
I'll stop ignoring shit when you'll stop hyperbolising to the point where you pretend whatever subjective stance you hold is automatically right without question.
>religious intolerance
Last I checked Trump wasn't muslim. You want to talk about religious intolerance, talk about the people from the religious group that drives trucks into crowds of people after being invited by said people into their homes.
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>>71200925
>abortion restrictions
>violation of womens' rights
yes

>Last I checked Trump wasn't muslim.
huh

>You want to talk about religious intolerance, talk about the people from the religious group that drives trucks into crowds of people after being invited by said people into their homes.
tu quoque
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First they allowed the women to vote... and I said what about men.
Then they made a gay pride parade... and I asked why can't I have straight pride.
Then they created black history month.. and I asked what about white history month.
Now they say black lives matter... what about white lives?

I am the free speech defener.
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>>71200978
>>abortion restrictions
>>violation of womens' rights
>yes
Wow great argument fagtron you sure convinced me with those hot opinions.
>tu quoque
Tu an idiot. C for trying.
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>>71200925
>talk about the people from the religious group that drives trucks into crowds of people after being invited by said people into their homes
religious extremists =/= everyone in said religion
according to the logic of your own argument we shouldn't vote for trump because the kkk kill people in the name of Christianity
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>>71201059
>religious extremists =/= everyone in said religion
Define islamic extremism. Last I checked, the KKK don't have much traction in white society.
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who /anonymous/ here? honesty appreciated
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>>71201129
>Define islamic extremism
>the religious group that drives trucks into crowds of people

>Last I checked, the KKK don't have much traction in white society.
Not anymore but it's not because we banned all white people and Christians from entering the country.
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>>71201129
do they poser racists trying to benefit their status? they could make an career out of that. i'll feel much better living through things that don't fucking involve me at alll
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>>71201016
>mocking strawmen you invented
it's just that easy!
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>>71201055
>Wow great argument fagtron you sure convinced me with those hot opinions.
What should I really say here? A bunch of old white dudes signed an executive order dictating what women can or can not do with their bodies. If you don't see that as an attack on their rights, I'm not really sure what else to say here.

>Tu an idiot. C for trying.
Brilliant

>>71201129
Do you know what sharia is?

>Last I checked, the KKK don't have much traction in white society.
Last I checked, they won the white house!
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>>71200978
women don't have "the right" to kill their unborn children

sorry that i disagree with you i know it must be hard to take
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>>71201174
>Define islamic extremism
>the religious group that drives trucks into crowds of people
Oh, okay. So long as it's planes, bombs, rapes and beheadings, it's not extremism. Holy shit, you're a genius. As expected from an ausie discount-jackass for kids poster.

>Not anymore but it's not because we banned all white people and Christians from entering the country.
No. We did it by reforming our own society from within. Not sending out our KKK members into civilised places to murder and disrespect their people under the guise of "religion of peace".
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>>71201276
thanks for letting us know what women can or can not do, friend

how do you kill something that hasn't been born anyways?
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>>71201282
>Oh, okay. So long as it's planes, bombs, rapes and beheadings, it's not extremism. Holy shit, you're a genius. As expected from an ausie discount-jackass for kids poster.
Are you fucking serious? How can someone be this retarded. I quoted an example of Islamic extremism and you take that as me claiming the rest isn't extremism?
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>>71200720
>can't i go one day playing vidya without being called a neckbeard virgin woman-hater
>can't i go one day watching kino without being called a racist bigotted hate-enabler
>can't i go one day reading comics without being called a sexist problematic shitlord factory
sjw's mad that /pol/ is invading their safespace

o i am laffin

the tables have turned
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>>71201276
they have "the right" to objectify men
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>>71201282
>Oh, okay. So long as it's planes, bombs, rapes and beheadings, it's not extremism. Holy shit, you're a genius. As expected from an ausie discount-jackass for kids poster.
Uh, I know it's kind of your thing to be obtuse and intentionally miss the point, but I'm pretty sure those things would qualify as "extremism"
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And of course the politics thread gets the most replies on /mu/
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>>71201348
>4chin is an sjw safespace
how deluded to you have to be to believe this?
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>>71201348
The entirety of the /pol/ board is meant to be a safespace you neckbeard virgin woman-hating racist bigoted hate-enabling sexist problematic shitlord factory
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>>71199055
You do realize universities aren't gonna be rid of them because they're profitable, right?
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>>71201255
>fucking white men, our bodies, our choice!
>trump is literally KKK!
Your posts consist of nothing but facetious remarks. What exactly do you expect me to respond with? What's your end game here aside from being a fucking idiot?
>What should I really say here?
How about something constructive. Better yet, fucking nothing. Just go tug your dick a bit and go to sleep.
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>>71201377
/mu/ certainly is
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>>71201317
>thanks for letting us know what women can or can not do, friend
no problem. men have always and will always be the ones who decide what women can or cannot do. anything they even have is merely allowed by men. sorry but them's the brakes.

actions have consequences you know my dear boy. probably shouldn't slut around.
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>>71201255
>Do you know what sharia is?

Oh boy, I'm sure you're also one of the people that believes that Jihad simply means 'struggle for God', too. Sharia is a set of religious laws that any other religion would have gotten rid of thousands of years ago due to the pure barbarism it entails. Christianity has something similar, but it's in the Old Testament which is widely disregarded unless you're an Orthodox Jew or something. Sharia, however, is still considered to be the undeniable word of Allah (as with the rest of the Quran). Enjoy the honor killings and public stonings/executions for apostasy
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>>71201334
>>71201357
That's great. I know you people are a little illiterate though so I'll help a bit. I asked for a definition, not an example.
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>>71201386
Have you ever been on a university campus? In a university classroom?
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Well as usual most artists don't even know what feminism is about. Nothing about its literature or marxist-based theory.
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>>71201382
>neckbeard virgin woman-hating racist bigoted hate-enabling sexist problematic shitlord factory

Calmed down yet? :)
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>>71201388
>fucking white men, our bodies, our choice!
I'm not sure why you're memetexting this like it's some hilarious statement here. Why shouldn't women have agency over what happens with their body?
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>>71201423
Are you really so fucking retarded and incapable of thinking for yourself that you need someone to define religious extremism? Religious extremism is pretty self-explanatory.
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>>71201418
Oh, okay, so you don't know what it is. Thanks!
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>>71201377
>how deluded to you have to be to believe this?
you only have to be told gb2>>>/pol/ so many times before you realize people are just afraid of confronting dissenting opinions.

you might think /pol/ is a hugbox but it's really a madhouse of constant constant conflict and insults. if you even share so much as 5% of your power level on any blue board you get guaranteed_replies by all the triggered babies who don't know how to deal with things they disagree with. it's p. cool.
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>>71197841
So they're libertarians
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>>71201348
go back to your fucking containment board, this board was never politicized to begin with until you made it so. I'm right-leaning but mongoloids like you make it sorta embarrassing. Are you even voting age? The memespouting makes me think that's a no
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>>71201382
You've never been to /pol/ have you? There's always 4 or 5 threads with someone like you there trying to troll them with "lol pol btfo!!!" Threads. Some safespace
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>>71200586
>/gaily/
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>>71201495
>>71201513
So what you want is a safe-space from your safe-space?
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>>71201460
>Why shouldn't women have agency over what happens with their body?
because it's not their body entirely

unless you think women reproduce asexually or sumpin
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boring
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>>71201460
They have. When it comes to planning whether you want to have a child, there's:
demanding your partner use a condom
pills
refusing sex
sterilization

That's already one more than men have. At some point I think it's time to accept that actions have consequences though, and I'd say murder is just about that point.
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>>71201538
no, boring is entertaining! i'm a very kind of very
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>>71201523
no i want to yell at you retards on your safety reddit boards for your shitty opinions (while also discussing music)

i never make these threads but I do join them if I see them. If people say retarded things then I tell them what's up. You can continue crying about it though it really makes me think.
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How does a shit-flinging /pol/ thread on a music board get so many replies? Go back home you cretins >>>/pol/, and let the adults discuss actual music.
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>>71201471
>Religious extremism is pretty self-explanatory.
Apparently not considering you actually believe muslim extremists are an insignificant minority. I'm interested in hearing your fucked up personal definition that led you to this conclusion.
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>>71201484
Feel free to articulate your point once you're done being up your own ass. Religious debate is always kind of hard when the person gets some blunt truths thrown their way and they shut down like little robo-men. I was a Christian for the better half of my life, and I occasionally participate in MSA and Ramadan with my abundance of muslim friends :^)
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>>71201536
>because it's not their body entirely
sure it is

>unless you think women reproduce asexually or sumpin
do men? who does your body belong to?

>>71201544
how does one murder something that is not born?

is murder being expanded to non living things?

are you a retard?
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>>71201572
Then why don't you go start a music board on reddit that caters to your political preferences. Nobody wants to hear your shit views on politics.
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>>71197931
>death grips
>talent
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>>71201597
>sure it is
sorry but 50% of that dna is mine, nig

>how does one murder something that is not born?
life begins at conception

sorry you disagree with this simple yet obvious fact of life
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>>71201622
>my safe space!!!!!
i literally do not care what you think, you crybaby faggot.

you can kindly deal with it or leave. the choice is always yours :)
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>>71201588
Sharia isn't really something that has been codified in any kind of meaningful historical way. Posting an unsourced jpg showing that muslims support sharia law is kind of like posting a jpg asking if christians support judea-christain values. That's a) not surprising and b) doesn't tell us anything about what these people actually believe.
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Are you guys still talking about this? There's hobbies like badminton, squash, or volleyball you could go into instead
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>/mu/
>music
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>>71201583
>believe muslim extremists are an insignificant minority
I never implied this so quit trying to straw man me you fucking idiot. All I ever said was that not every muslim is an extremist. I'm sure I define religious extremism the same way any reasonable person would in that they an extremist would use acts of violence in the name of their religion or believe that it should be law.
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>>71201682
>implying
nigga do you even waifu
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>>71201523
Where did I say I wanted a safe space? I was refuting your point that pol is a safespace for idiots when in actuality, there's s lot of arguing over there too.

Are you so mad about people calling out your safespace perhaps that you're projecting it onto others?
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>>71201580
>blame /pol/ for this thread
>opening post was made to insult /pol/
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>>71201597
>A fetus is a stage in the prenatal development of viviparous organisms. In human development, a fetus or foetus (/ˈfiːtəs/; plural fetuses or foetuses) is a prenatal human between the embryonic state and birth.
>NOT A LIVING THING GUYSE
Any time you're ready to stop spewing shitty, tired, stale, and flat out wrong rhetoric because you're too fucking lazy to even think, feel free to actually post something productive.
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>>71201665
>i literally do not care what you think, you crybaby faggot.
Clearly you guys do or else you'd stop making these threads on boards where it makes absolutely no sense.
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>>71201641
and 50% of your dna is owned by your mother... ergo your mother can dictate law that says what you can or can not do with your body...????

>life begins at conception. sorry you disagree with this simple yet obvious fact of life
can you provide me with this magical book that's given you concrete and indisputable definitions of life and conception?
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>>71201717
>why can't I bait people and blame them for responding!!
these children boggle the mind
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>>71201701
I do have a waifu, what did you take me for, a person that has an active social life?
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>>71201727
>I make threads on /mu/ to insult /pol/ because I'm from /pol/ and I love /pol/
wat

>>71201731
>and 50% of your dna is owned by your mother... ergo your mother can dictate law that says what you can or can not do with your body...????
not even gonna bother with this goal post moving argument.

>can you provide me with this magical book that's given you concrete and indisputable definitions of life and conception?
here you go
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>succ

does anyone want to outmeme me now? it's a pretty unremoveable meme, it's there forever
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>>71201725
Can you answer any of my questions or are you going to keep copy and pasting the wikipedia article you just googled to feel superior?
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>>71199572
i thought it was all about one numale crying that his girlfriend dumped him
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>>71201776
>can you provide me with this magical book that's given you concrete and indisputable definitions of life and conception?
>here you go
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>>71201776
>not even gonna bother with this goal post moving argument
i know you're trolling now but i dont think you know what this term means
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>>71201812
thats how it started but /v/ found a way to link that to a global feminazi conspiracy to ban videogames
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>>71201839
i'm talking about where life begins (conception)

I'm not talking about this odd concept parents owning the dna of their children for life therefore they can tell me what to do with my body.

please stay on topic. there is no need to shift the argument into crazy places.
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>>71201693
>I never implied this
Great, so what's your fucking argument then? "I know islamic society is violent, hostile and incompatible with our own to the very core but hey open borders and let them in by the millions anyway because reasons because we have to learn how to be loving and caring... from them, or something"? What exactly are you trying to tell me?
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>>71201824
>being a proud godless heathen who mocks someone's religion
>defends muslim for their retarded beliefs
wew
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>>71201878
You tried to claim that Trump isn't intolerant just because he isn't a muslim even though he attempted to ban an entire religion
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>>71201805
I'll start answering your questions when they start being relevant to the discussion. Why the fuck are you asking me about murdering non-living things when we're talking about living things, by the very definition of it? Are YOU retarded?
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>>71201949
>Why the fuck are you asking me about murdering non-living things
obviously we disagree that these things are non-living

i think you cling to this definition because it absolves your guilt from child-murdering. It's ok though we all have justifications for our shitty behavior, but the important thing is to know that we can change.
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>>71201933
Personally I think all organized religion is retarded but I'm not trying to shove that down anyone's throat like Christians try to do.
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>>71201947
The same way people are intolerant to cancer because they keep looking for ways to cure it and fear getting it.
>even though he attempted to ban an entire religion
No he didn't, you sensationalist retard.
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>>71201678
For the record I wasn't the one who posted the Pew poll. What I can say, however, is that holding personal religious values is one thing (and totally fine) and Sharia oversteps into the realm of theocracy a bit too much. I'm not saying Christians don't affect legislation stateside, but it's very pick-and-choose as far as what old testament laws christians decide to observe (Gay marriage is probably the biggest one). Whereas with Sharia law it's pretty much every Hadith being followed to the T, including the execution of Apostates or women who practice infidelity.
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>>71201981
>Personally I think all organized religion is retarded but I'm not trying to shove that down anyone's throat like Christians try to do.
just trying to stop the outrageous level of abortions that have had a deleterious effect on society, encouraging people to indulge in behavior that is harmful and psychologically damaging

you can thank me later
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>>71201874
>>71201949
friend, my point is you're throwing around terms like life/conception/etc as a "fact" as if this is fucking clear cut discussion

but this ignores a whole fucking shit load of things. what are we talking about when we talk about "life?" sperm are "living" cells, is contraception murder? what is "murder?" when is a fetus "human?" what makes one "human?" how does a "child" be "unborn?"
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>>71201947
>when you say you want to deal with muslim extremism and violence but retards who want to have TheRightOpinions™ say you are "banning a religion"
way to say all muslims are extremists, bigot
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>>71201980
then why did that person do that thing in the first place? because they can advance from doing it again, and again? this is the most cuck thing ive read today
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>>71202007
>No he didn't, you sensationalist retard.
Banning immigrants from all country's that practice islam is the closest thing he could attempt
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>>71198030
you're too mature for this shit website, and this board in particular
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>>71197841
Why would I care?
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>>71202011
it's a shame you didn't seem to actually read or understand anything i just said.

"sharia" as a concept is not something that's not universally and comprehensively codified. "sharia law" as presented in several islamist states is a bad thing, yes, but a muslim saying they're pro sharia does not mean they are, say, pro executing women in the same way that a xtain saying they're pro jedua-christian values doesn't mean they want to stone gay people, even if some other christian organization advocates for that

facist islamic states are objectively bad things, even the most die hard liberal will tell you that, but we're talking strictly about the govenment here
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>>71202028
>encouraging people to indulge in behavior that is harmful and psychologically damaging
I have the right to indulge in anything that is harmful or psychologically damaging as long as I don't hurt anyone
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>>71202070
>tfw the two alt righters fighting with me mistake eachother for me and start calling eachother cucks
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>>71202029
>but this ignores a whole fucking shit load of things. what are we talking about when we talk about "life?" sperm are "living" cells, is contraception murder? what is "murder?" when is a fetus "human?" what makes one "human?" how does a "child" be "unborn?"
we don't need to have an existential debate about the fact that a growing human who is otherwise already on the fast track to being alive shouldn't be sucked out of his mom's pussy with a vacuum cleaner

you just want to make the debate more difficult and unclear. I'm not interested in sperm cells because they will never ever be a human on their own. The fetus though, he's the guy I care about.

Also the shitty losers who want to rawdog yet don't anticipate the psychological trauma they will be gifting themselves with.
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>>71202106
>I have the right to indulge in anything that is harmful or psychologically damaging as long as I don't hurt anyone
nah

you hurt society in measurable ways, which hurts us all.
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>>71202106
>takes the life of an unborn child
>lol guys I'm not hurting anyone though
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Death Grips are anti-authoritarian. The backslash against the sjws is because they are authoritarian as fuck. It doesn't matter what you personally believe, what they mean is that you can live your life however you want. That can be edgy or not, it's not mutually exclusive.
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>>71202029
>but this ignores a whole fucking shit load of things. what are we talking about when we talk about "life?" sperm are "living" cells, is contraception murder? what is "murder?" when is a fetus "human?" what makes one "human?" how does a "child" be "unborn?"
Yeah, it's a very nuanced and questionable moral situation, isn't it? Good thing it doesn't have to be a problem as long as you actually learn to be a responsible human being instead of being a dumb fuck who makes terrible life decisions to the point where you actually have to consider whether you're committing murder or not, eh? Though I guess tossing hot dogs down the corridor is much easier than being a decent human being.
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>>71202117
ok
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>>71202164
dude but i want to feel good all the time and never think about consequences

why are you trying to stop society from reinforcing this mindset what are you a bigot or sumpin
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>>71202152
the world be a much better place if everyone on /pol/ was aborted
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>>71201386
Yes I have, in my third year now.

The SJ/Gender Studies courses aren't a necessity and neither are the degrees. And when a prof tries to push some sort of agenda they get shit on with the professer reviews at the end.

Just because people aren't trashing the rooms at the sight of "PEPE IS RAYCISS" doesn't mean they don't know.

At the end of the day, most of those kids will have wasted their cash and grants and go back to being managers at starbucks just like the rest of the philosophy majors. On top of that, people are buying less and less into their bullshit. Just look at Bud Light and Amy Schumer situation.

It's really nothing to worry about m8, people like Sargon are just another political pundit.

The "Ess Jay Dubyas" aren't going to bite you in your sleep.
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>>71202122
>we don't need to have an existential debate
yes we do mate. that's the whole crux of the argument

>the fact
[citation needed]

>I'm not interested in sperm cells because they will never ever be a human on their own. The fetus though, he's the guy I care about.
Brilliant self defeating argument here. Fetuses need a host body to grow/survive. A fetus can never "be a human on their own"

But this is a moot point since the majority of abortions are performed before the "child" leaves the embryonic state.

>Also the shitty losers who want to rawdog yet don't anticipate the psychological trauma they will be gifting themselves with.
wat
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>>71197845
Homosexuality is a degenerate abnormality. There are no advantages to homosexuality. It should be tolerated but not "supported"; no one should be encouraged to be homosexual.
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>>71202208
>remember guys, I am NOT the fascist
>i'm just advocating for the genocide of a mindset I disagree with
get a load of this nazi
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>>71201424
>>71202216
Replying to myself, fuck me for using a phone.
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>>71202208
/thread
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billionaire fooling the average Joe into thinking he gives, easiest trick in the book you amerifats are just fucking stupid.

>OH NOES OMG FAKE MEDIA OMG >billionaire fuck cant even empathize with you idiots even if his life depended on it
>doesn’t ever say the same shit twice
>needs a million minions to interpret his bigotry

Americat idiots
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>>71202164
It's amazing how you apparently consider it a "naunced" situation and yet are quite comfortable calling people "murderers"
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>>71202245
>wat
if you have an abortion, it will fuck you up mentally

you can read all about it (it's very common)

unless you think state sponsored psychological trauma is a good thing
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>>71202268
gives a shit*
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>>71202252
>hey guys nazis are arent anti-nazis even worse!?
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>>71202216
>The "Ess Jay Dubyas" aren't going to bite you in your sleep.
I dated an SJW and she threw her car keys at my head because I didn't agree that rape culture was a thing and the discussion got heated
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>>71202271
>>71202276
>>71202293
lol
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>>71202252
It was a joke retard. But yeah the world would be better off if more severely mentally disabled people like yourself and also the similarly severely mentally disabled sjw's that you guys try to use as strawmen were aborted
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>>71202255
im kinda confused to what point you're trying to make here
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>>71202315
>>hey guys the people who don't want to kill anyone are nazi's cuz I said so
word's can have nuance you know

you don't have to see the world through a nazi/non-nazi filter
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>>71202249
>Degenerate
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>>71202276
If you force a 16 year old to mother a child it’ll fuck her up mentally and her child too,its a conscious decision to do so and its done not for short term mental pleasure its a long term decision.
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>>71202271
>"naunced"
Perhaps if you actually bothered reading what I wrote instead of having one of your retard-strokes, you'd understand just what the fuck people are saying, and in turn be able to write responses that are actually worth reading.
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>>71202351
and not everything in the world is literal, friend. that was hyperbole

i think /pol/ qualifies for the black and white neo-nazi filter tho
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>>71202335
>It was a joke
>the world would be better off if more severely mentally disabled people like yourself and also the similarly severely mentally disabled sjw's that you guys try to use as strawmen were aborted
nah

we can work it out
we can work it out~

try to see it my way
try to see it my way
only time will tell if
I am right or I am wrong
While you see it your way,
There's a chance that we may fall apart
before too long

Life is very short, and there's no time
For fussing and fighting, my friend
I have always thought that it's a crime
So I will ask you once again

try to see it my way
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>>71202366
>If you force a 16 year old to mother a child
No-one forced her unless it's rape though.
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>>71202386
I did bother to read what you said. You acknowledged that the discussion was more nuanced than the indisputable "facts of life" you were pushing before, then you ended it by suggesting people not be murderers. If the discussion was nuanced, you wouldn't be comfortable pushing that label on anyone. It's a contradiction.
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>>71202366
>it’ll fuck her up mentally and her child too
nah

it will teach her about consequences and may very well destroy her narcissistic pleasure seeking tendencies

win/win
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>>71202423
sure you do.

if you make abortion illegal, you are forcing her to mother a child

and believe it or not, people do get pregnant from rape, but i suppose they ought to be burdened for making the terrible life choice of being raped
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>>71202430
>then you ended it by suggesting people not be murderers
No. I suggested being responsible enough people to not get ourselves into situations where we're arguing whether we are committing murder or not, you illiterate twit. It's not that hard.
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>>71202448
>it will teach her about consequences and may very well destroy her narcissistic pleasure seeking tendencies
Having an abortion would do the same thing and prevent more mentally fucked up people like yourself from being born.
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>>71202448
Beautiful, we can teach young girls a harsh lesson about being sexually active that men are not subject too, financially burden them for the next 20 years and ruin a childs development in one fell swoop!
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>>71202457
>you are forcing her to mother a child
nobody forced her to be a dickrider

maybe if 16 year old sloots didn't think McAbortions were an option they wouldn't be such rampant dickriders. I can only see this improving the fabric of society.

You can call me a virgin though, if you like. It's a very effective argumentation technique that adult people often use.
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>>71202482
>STOP DISAGREEING WITH ME YOU SHOULD BE ABORTED YOU'RE MENTALLY ILL!!!!
The reasonable left everybody. God love em.
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>>71202472
So these situations will inevitably include:
a) contraception that failed
b) non-consensual relationships

I suppose the only solution is abstinence for both men and women unless they're ready to raise a child. I trust that you practice what you preach.
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>>71202457
>if you make abortion illegal, you are forcing her to mother a child
"force" implies the person isn't given a choice in the matter. Last I checked, Pregnancy doesn't happen by magic unless you're the Holy Virgin Mary™.
>and believe it or not, people do get pregnant from rape
Oh yeah I'm sure the vast majority of women getting abortions were all raped. Man, must suck living on Rapestreet, Rapetown in Rapecounty of the United States of Rape, where women are impregnated daily by rapegazes. It's a shame exceptions for exceptional cases cannot be made when it comes to law.
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>>71202508
No one forced the dickridee to have sex with her either mate. It goes both ways. It's clear sexually active women bother you.

I didn't call you a virgin so I don't know what that's about.
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>>71202488
>Beautiful, we can teach young girls a harsh lesson about being sexually active that men are not subject too,
men have enough problems
>inancially burden them for the next 20 years
shoulda thought about that dickridin' then
>ruin a childs development
Are you implying that young mothers can't be good parents? Pretty misogynistic anon.
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>>71202323
>1 psycho bitch = all
Generalization my dude, don't start playing their games now.

There's a Dubya next door to my dorm and I've made it clear to her that the election was a lost cause, and why Hillary was no better for "the Left."

She wanted to talk abot cultural appropriation and how I said it's an equal playing field: If some asshat wanted to make fun of me directly by wearing a pancho and a sombrero while downing tequila I could easily come to the party with a kilt or lederhosen, viking helmet, and a bagpipe and pull the same shit.

Respectful, doubt I changed her mind anyway but she's allowed to speak whatever she wants and so do I.

>Threw her keys at your head
"911, what's your emergency?"

or just cut ties with them completely and move the hell on.
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Getting upset over the sexuality of strangers is extremely autistic
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>>71202573
>No one forced the dickridee to have sex with her either mate. It goes both ways.
Absolutely agree 100%

Thank you for finally being reasonable.

>It's clear sexually active women bother you.
Mostly just the ones who are rawdogging and getting pregnant.
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New kind of fascists the thread
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>>71202587
aborting the life of strangers?
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>>71202488
>that men are not subject too
Oh shit, so alimony is just a myth then?
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>>71202527
>STOP DISAGREEING WITH ME YOU SHOULD BE ABORTED YOU'RE MENTALLY ILL!!!!
Not everyone who is mentally ill should be aborted but it is reasonable to abort someone who would be born without any of the mental faculties required to function in daily life as I'm inclined to believe you were given your retarded simplification of my argument
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>>71202550
everyone always goes to the rape/failed contraception boogeyman as a means to argue against making abortions harder to get.

i don't think anyone is going to argue against aborting rape babies. it's a non-argument. Contraception that failed is a trickier thing but you should just be more responsible ffs.

When I was in high school I ALWAYS wore a condom and made sure my girlfriend was on the pill. IT'S NOT THAT HARD TO BE RESPONSIBLE.
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>>71202338
I'm saying you're just wasting time and energy worrying about these kids agenda when ultimately they'll just be making your coffee at starbucks with their useless degrees.

As for professors, you can give them bad reviews and move on. It's not like you take the core classes because you give a damn about them.
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>>71202566
>"force" implies the person isn't given a choice in the matter
Yes. Please tell me the alternatives a pregnant woman has.

>Pregnancy doesn't happen by magic unless you're the Holy Virgin Mary
Pregnancy and abortion are two different things

>Oh yeah I'm sure the vast majority of women getting abortions were all raped. Man, must suck living on Rapestreet, Rapetown in Rapecounty of the United States of Rape, where women are impregnated daily by rapegazes. It's a shame exceptions for exceptional cases cannot be made when it comes to law.
It's amazing that the mere suggestion that some women get pregnant from non-consensual sex flew you into this rage. Really says a lot about you.

>>71202575
>men have enough problems
What the fuck are you on about? Y'know what, I'm not even going to bark up that tree, it's irrelevant when it comes to the topic of parenthood. Women are far more financially and physically burdened by parenthood.

>shoulda thought about that dickridin' then
epic

>Are you implying that young mothers can't be good parents? Pretty misogynistic anon.
I'm implying that 16 year olds who are not prepared to have children are not going to be good parents and that they will not be able to financially support their children nor attempt to pursue any kind of post-secondary education/career. Pretty uncontroversial statement here, but feel free to rephrase it as some ridiculous attempt to "get me"
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>>71202651
>retarded simplification of my argument
the argument was retarded to begin with :^)

needed no help from me desu
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>>71202670
>Women are far more financially and physically burdened by parenthood.
It almost makes you think that they should be more careful then in choosing to sit on bare penises in their free time.

Almost.
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>>71202647
alimony is for divorce you fucking mong
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>>71202678
So you think the solution to retards giving birth to more retards is to just force them to raise more retards?
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>>71202670
>Please tell me the alternatives a pregnant woman has.
ITT i learned adoption doesn't exist
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>>71197845
Show me one single non-cringeworthy male feminist
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>>71202658
mate, first of all, when your type is constantly trying to blur the line of consent, how in the fuck are you going to meaningfully enforce legal abortions for rape victims

and secondly, you do realize that both condoms and pills are not fail safe, right?
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>>71202249
>There are no advantages to homosexuality

I don't know, getting fucked in the ass feels pretty good. Just ask your dad.
>>
women are nice
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>>71202634
I doubt you'd even give a shit about illegitimate children to begin with.

Tell me, how're the kids in those overflowing orphanages?
Your self-righteous kind always blabber about "the life of the child," but never bat an eye at the bastard ones.

If you don't want the state to intervene and care about population control, then endorse contraception and abortion. The people choose when to have kids and orphanges are more controlled and there are less kids with shitty lives.

Enough with your "pity."
>>
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>>71202717
i think the solution is to socially shame people who sleep around and get knocked up by removing massive state-sponsored industries that cater to their hedonism

after a few years, word gets around
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>>71202670
>Yes. Please tell me the alternatives a woman who disregarded the alternatives available to her and is now facing the consequence of wrong decisions has
Oh fuck, you got me there. I'm all out.
>It's amazing that the mere suggestion that some women get pregnant from non-consensual sex flew you into this rage. Really says a lot about you.
It's amazing how you use an outlier example to justify something that is significantly more common in an entirely different case. It's amazing how you also completely ignored that last sentence. Almost like it would make your shitty, shoddy argument completely pointless. Whoops! Better make insults on character hopefully if I'm witty enough everyone will think I'm cool and ignore my shitty arguments.
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I know that and I still listen to them. I'm totally not an edgy teenager, though.
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>>71197841
i think they were being ironic because they know the cover is just a dick but had to paint it as """artistic""" somehow

they havin a giggle
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>>71202660
I'm not worried about these kid's agendas. I'm curious because you seem to think social justice has no place in academia or that it's somehow "unscientific." It makes me doubt that you took any kind of social studies course or that you have a fundamental understand of what science actually is. Then you went on a rant about how they'll only work at starbucks as if that's any indication of the validity of their studies.
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>>71202765
Communists are fascists too, don't act like your any better than the goose steppers.
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>>71202750
>when your type is constantly trying to blur the line of consent
wat

wat is my type, nigger? please do tell me what i think about consent. I assure you my thoughts are nuanced and supported by experience and not blindly lumped into TeamA or TeamB just to win arguments on the internet.

>you do realize that both condoms and pills are not fail safe, right?
condoms alone are 99% effective. you're arguing a non-issue.
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>>71202773
>after a few years, word gets around
This has been happening for centuries so why hasn't it worked yet?
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>>71202717
Or create more jobs by increasing the demand for social workers and pay their salaries entirely out of the pockets of the retards.
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>>71202802
you're*

fuck me
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>>71202802
>communism is fascism!!!
retard detected
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>>71202697
a preferable accident. it's contingent fatalism for a personal accountability they're afraid of, they are terrified to make their own choices and need the dicks to choose them
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>>71202762
>Your self-righteous kind always blabber about "the life of the child," but never bat an eye at the bastard ones.
you can stop projecting any time
>If you don't want the state to intervene and care about population control, then endorse contraception
I do
>and abortion
I don't
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>>71202249
>should be tolerated
>calls them degenerate
Nice
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>>71202773
Abortion is just as discouraging of irresponsible sex as an unwanted pregnancy so the "raising a child is a lesson" argument makes no sense.
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>>71202835
Mm yes, state controlled wage caps and limited rights because the state provides everything for you.

I like making my money, thank you.

Mixed economy >>>>>> Fasci Commies
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>>71202835
excellent point anon duly noted

telling me how to live and what to think isn't fascism if you're liberal, got it.
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>>71202762
>I doubt you'd even give a shit about illegitimate children to begin with.

i gave a fuck about someone i wanted to sleep with, basically i'm just aborting that person i slept with

maybe i just want a child who knows how to fuck
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>>71202819
>wat is my type, nigger?
The type of person who calls people niggers?

Aren't you the same dude who complained about "dickriding sluts?" Can't tell since I'm being attacked by multiple /pol/tards.

How much do you want to bet you've talked about women asking for it, or argued that no doesn't always mean no or that "regret isn't rape!!!!"?

But, I mean, now that it's convenient, I'm sure you're all about affirmative consent and all that.

>condoms alone are 99% effective. you're arguing a non-issue.
condoms break
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>>71202802
>Bolshevism
>Marxism
>Does not know the difference between them

Average fascist idiot who thinks a billionaires got his best interests in mind
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>>71202897
Fascism is not an economic system.
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>>71202896
>Abortion is just as discouraging of irresponsible sex as an unwanted pregnancy
how so

it provides a get out of IMSOFUCKED free card
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>>71202897
>communism
>state controlled
retard detected

>>71202902
liberal != communist
jesus fucking christ read a book kids.
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>>71202903
>i'm just aborting that person i slept with
>maybe i just want a child who knows how to fuck

wat

dude never have children
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>>71202934
>it provides a get out of IMSOFUCKED free card
They have to go through a surgery that removes a fetus from their womb.
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>>71202902
>>71202897

This you retards >>71202919
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>>71202956

wat

huh
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>>71202863
>Projection
You drew the Pathos card first, bucko. Step it up.

>I do
Good.

>I don't
Then I guess those orphanages are gonna keep overflowing, more kids with shitty lives resorting to crime, resulting in more police and shittier neighborhoods, and more taxes.

No heartbeat until 3 weeks, deal with it.
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>>71202988
you sound like a pedo
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>>71202907
>The type of person who calls people niggers?
Only because I've been coming to 4chan for ten years and it's just how people talk 'round here. But you wouldn't know that, would you reddit?
>Aren't you the same dude who complained about "dickriding sluts?"
They are a problem. I also complain about dudebros who psychologically manipulate women into fucking only to drop them like a hat. You see, my opinions are wide and nuanced.
>How much do you want to bet you've talked about women asking for it
I think both parties are responsible for paying attention to their partner and that if either one detects that the other does not want it, communication is paramount and there's no excuse for continuing just because you want to cum. I think men do indeed often pressure women into sex and take advantage of them and they're human gahbage, dahling.

>I'm sure you're all about affirmative consent and all that.
I'm just a dude, m8. I can have opinions that don't fit "the stereotype".

>condoms break
pills exist and pulling out is actually more effective than you think. Unless the condom breaks after you already came into it you're probably ok.
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>>71203001
to add to that, we kill and eat things with heart beats every day
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>>71203001
have you explained this to your own parents? did they have the right know?
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I had eggs for breakfast.
>InB4 MURDER
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>>71202935
>liberal =! communist
yeah but communism does = retarded so good luck with that
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>>71203061
you can go ahead and eat a woman's ovulation for all i care

just don't eat zygotes
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>>71203025
what's morally wrong with pedophilia they need to become adults sooner or later huh
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>>71203001
>>71203044
Fucking this. Personally I don't believe it's wrong to kill and eat things but you have to be able to make that argument if you're going to argue against abortion.
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>>71203036
I don't know, I grew out of that edgy nigger stuff when I stopped browsing /b/. Maybe you'll get to that point too someday.

I actually have a reddit account too. They're just as edgy as here, so I don't really understand the reddit boogeyman stuff.

>They are a problem. I also complain about dudebros who psychologically manipulate women into fucking only to drop them like a hat. You see, my opinions are wide and nuanced.
Good to hear you're an equal opportunity bigot

>pills exist and pulling out is actually more effective than you think
I can speak from experience that pulling out is not fail safe

>Unless the condom breaks after you already came into it you're probably ok.
okay but not everyone is probably ok
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>>71203097
>I actually have a reddit account too.
the mad man actually admitted it
>I don't really understand the reddit boogeyman stuff
Obviously. Do you think the borg have a problem with the borg? course not
>Good to hear you're an equal opportunity bigot
haha what? I don't approve of shitty behavior. If that makes me a bigot, sure. I'll wear a shirt with Bigot plastered in impact font. What are you even defending here? Guys who lie to women to fuck them and leave? jesus.
>I can speak from experience that pulling out is not fail safe
that's why i advocate condoms and pills and LESS FUCKING in general.

People are fucking addicted to dopamine, man. There's too much feelin good all the time.
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>>71202931
>>71202935
Never said Fascism was an economic system dipshits. I'd rather not have someone get complete control over my shit, plain and simple. And if I'm a worker, I'd rather get my dues from my labor the way I see fit, be it providing services or me selling goods.

Communism is already an umbrella term vague in itself and hates the idea that someone owning a mom and pop shop wants to hire someone to help do their damn dishes.

Communists had several chances to make their societies and it ended in massive bloodshed and most of the rulers couldn't even stay true to Marx himself.

It failed.

>>71202919
>Implying Pro-Trump
Way to lump people in a box, nimrod.


t. Third Party voter
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>>71202802
>left-wing
>facist
Are you retarded? You can't be left-wing and fascist, it's literally impossible.
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>>71203097
>equal opportunity bigot
Can you translate that into something a sane person could understand? I feel like you're oppressing me with your retard privilege or something here.
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>>71203155
>Obviously. Do you think the borg have a problem with the borg? course not
lol

>If that makes me a bigot, sure
glad we agree

>that's why i advocate condoms and pills and LESS FUCKING in general.
Ah, okay. So what level of abstinence is acceptable?
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>>71203155
Give up, you lost at the "pull out" arguement, there's plenty of sperm in precum.
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>>71203169
Then why are you comparing it to an economic system?
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>>71203179
Exactly. You can't control someone as long as you have The Right Opinions™

It's called Making The World A Better Place (How I Interpret It)™
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>>71203169
> I'd rather not have someone get complete control over my shit, plain and simple. And if I'm a worker, I'd rather get my dues from my labor the way I see fit, be it providing services or me selling goods.
That's great, I'm not sure what that has to do with communism though.

>Communism is already an umbrella term vague in itself and hates the idea that someone owning a mom and pop shop wants to hire someone to help do their damn dishes.
You could've typed "I have no fucking idea what communism is" and you woulda saved yourself some time.

Or you could have went to the library and learned something... but instead you acted like a condescending asshole about a topic you didn't understand. Bravo
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>>71203233
>Exactly. You can't control someone as long as you have The Right Opinions™
Not the original anon but the right has been trying to do the same thing for much longer than the left
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>>71203169
again that’s not communism or marxism you dense fuck, now go read a book
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>>71203233
lmao dude 1984
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>>71203209
>when you casually defend rape culture because you are desperate to call your opponent a bigot
this is getting sad

I don't even really believe in "muh rape culture" but there are obviously ways men are guilty of ruining women by taking advantage of them for sex.

you should probably think about what you're saying, here.

>>71203213
I never advocated it as a sole method. I said it's surprisingly more effective than you might think, and that it can be used in case of a condom breaking. Let me clarify.

>fucking
>condom breaks
>"oh shit!" - pull out
>put new condom on
>continue fucking

wow such hard.
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the more you rationalize it,
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>>71203277
>"no u" therefore it's ok
nope
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>>71203055
I don't have one yet, that doesn't mean I can't say why abortion as early as possible is a better option than just tossing kids in an orphanage, unless you got some family that will take care of the kid.

Why should they know? It's not their legal right, I didn't fuck them to have the baby.

Even so, that's some cultural authoritarian shit if you demand the rest of the family to know about your shit as an adult.

You want an even LESS of a drain on society?

LESS KIDS = LESS WELFARE EXPENDITURE

LESS KIDS = LESS GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT

HAVING LESS KIDS = BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE FOR EVERYONE

Enough with your bleeding heart.
"Kill" the baby before 3 weeks if the aftermorning doesn't work, live with it.

The psych majors could use more money anyhow.
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>>71203352
I wasn't arguing that it's okay. I'm saying neither is okay and both sides have definitely had fascist tendencies as far as american politics go.
>inb4 le neutrality
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>>71203233
Fascism isn't just any old authoritarian government you dipshit. It's a specific RIGHT-WING ideology. I'm not saying, oh Communism is fucking great, I'm saying Communism can't be fucking fascist because they sit on different ends of the political spectrum. Fascism is a far-right ideology by definition. Authoritarian Communism is the left-wing equivalent, but it isn't fascism. This is why you people are fucking retarded - you have very clearly done zero fucking research, and just toss around terms like you know what the fuck you're talking about. You're just jumping on the /pol/ bandwagon because you're reactionary dumbasses who think idpol is the only political issue worthy of focus. Everything you think and breath is related to idpol and it's fucking sad.
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>>71203364
that little guy never even had a name
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>>71203325
I never defended rape culture m8, i didn't take your b8.

>73% is effective
lol
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>>71203409
>I'm saying neither is okay and both sides have definitely had fascist tendencies as far as american politics go.
I totally agree

it's why I hate being lumped into a stupid label that is made to pigeonhole and draw lines in the sand because i have an opinion. I don't believe in abortion, but I'm not "le right" or "le neutral". I'm just fucking of labels.
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>>71203224
Because communism includes an economic system that infringes upon private ownership. i.e. my shit and how much money I wanna make. It's authoritarian no matter how you wanna sugar coat it.

>>71203248
Your argument: "You just don't get it bro."
Please make an actual case for yourself.

>>71203289
Read above.
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>>71203070
ever seen one ? its pretty fun to read
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>>71203454
>Fascism is a far-right ideology by definition.
I'm pretty sure that in the past five years I've seen word after word get "updated" with new definitions so it doesn't really matter what you say my dude. If racism can equal prejudice plus power, the left can be fascist. Sorry, but I don't care for your autism.
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>>71203454
So just because it's left in economics it's not fascism?

Did you forget about Stalin's regime? Or how Castro wanted to kill gays?
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>>71203465
you can read the links any time you want

and I never said to use it as anything more than a "last ditch effort"

> i didn't take your b8.
just talking to you, faggot. not baiting. you paranoid cunt.
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>>71203471
> I'm not "le right" or "le neutral". I'm just fucking of labels.
I can agree with you on labels. People need to stop trying to lump others and themselves into these labels. It's the whole reason we ended up with the current political climate in this country.
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>>71203510
Don't bother man. Spend enough time on nu-/lit/ and you'll realise that even when /pol/fags read, they only read whatever affirms they're delusional beliefs and have objectively shit taste. When someone actually considers "The Bell Curve" as a legitimate piece of literature, then it's already too late.
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>>71203461
"sorry" isn't a common name
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>>71203510
yeah i read history books man

they talk all about communism (it fails all the time)

you should check em out
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>>71203489
>Your argument: "You just don't get it bro."
No, my argument is that you literally don't understand what you're talking about.

I'll make an actual case: read some actual socialist literature. Hell, read a fucking wikipedia article.

Here's a good socialist you could learn from:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Bakunin

>Because communism includes an economic system that infringes upon private ownership. i.e. my shit and how much money I wanna make. It's authoritarian no matter how you wanna sugar coat it.
No, it's about ownership of the MEANS OF PRODUCTION. You can still own things.
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>>71203553
>People need to stop trying to lump others and themselves into these labels. It's the whole reason we ended up with the current political climate in this country.
Hegelian Dialectic is a real thing.

Eventually all nuance is destroyed and you're called a nazi and a nu-male cuck at the same time for two easily reconcilable opinions that don't actually conflict except at the farthest ideological extremes.
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>>71203557
you’re right I give up and I love you
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>>71203551
>you can read the links any time you want
sure, but we're talking about abortions and how if you're smart you won't get pregnant and to me, 73% success rates are not very good.

>just talking to you, faggot. not baiting. you paranoid cunt.
i'm not paranoid, you're just calling me a rape advocate for a question of yours that i intentionally ignored
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>>71203569
name one book you've read
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>>71203609
>#notallcommunism
how many times do you have to try your shitty system before you realize it is unachievable given human nature.
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>>71203533
>>71203537
How are you people this moronic? As I already said, just because it's authoritarian doesn't mean it's fascist. This is how it works: Authoritarian Left = Communism
Authoritarian Right = Fascism
Of course they display similarities - those are symptoms of authoritarianism. However, they are distinctly different systems. Fascism is actively for imperialism, nationalism, and openly against Marxism. Those are some of its defining features. Communism, however, was anti-imperialism, anti-nationalist, and built upon Marxist teachings. As I previously said, I am not advocating Communism, I am advocating research and thoroughly against ignorance, which you guys very obviously are. Before you talk about politics, you first have to actually understand it and have some semblence of knowledge on the subject, or else how is anyone supposed to take you seriously?
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>>71203609
I'm not allowed MY OWN MEANS OF PRODUCTION.
>You can still own shit.

A contradiction in itself.
A very limited amount I can own, but not even tools. Luxury items aren't the only things I wanna buy for myself.

Oh by the way, collectivism decides what goods are on the market. If the "means of production" are by the people then what's produced is made by the collective and what they deem is right to make.

Fuck that.
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>>71203648
>how if you're smart you won't get pregnant and to m
all you have to do is where a condom and use the pill or just not fuck, and even then, you can pull out if shit goes wrong and you STILL have a 73%-96% chance of avoiding pregnancy. Please stop using the lowest percentage btw it is intellectually dishonest.

>you're just calling me a rape advocate for a question of yours that i intentionally ignored
because you called me an "equal opportunity bigot" for denouncing actual rapist behavior. which i thought was strange.
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>>71203681
>this goal post moving

the closest we've gotten to true soclib was in spain and that worked okay before the fascists came
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>>71203712
>Authoritarian Left = Communism
>Authoritarian Right = Fascism
i don't care m8

i get called a literal nazi because i don't believe white people are born inherently guilty. words mean nothing anymore. don't you get that? WORDS MEAN NOTHING ANYMORE.
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>>71203717
"In communism you can't own any tools, not even a hammer" ~Karl Marx

You've got it figured out, kiddo.
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>>71203712
You're arguing on semantics alone.

What I mean by the regimes is that they are inherently authoritarian, both socially and economically. You said it yourself with:
>Of course they display similarities - those are symptoms of authoritarianism.

There's the problem friendo
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>>71203743
>muh real communism
it will never happen, you dumb fag.

keep crying.
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>>71203727
>Please stop using the lowest percentage btw it is intellectually dishonest.
lmao

okay, let's go for middle ground here... ~85%

that means roughly 2/10 times you have sex will result in pregnancy. i dont know about you... but that would lead me to about 2 babies a month in a moderately healthy relationship
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>>71203792
it did, and the fascists ruined it
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>>71203560
I'm dyin
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>>71203802
>that means roughly 2/10 times you have sex will result in pregnancy
NOT. IF. YOU. ARE. ALSO. WEARING. A CONDOM. AND. SHE. IS. ON. THE. PILL.
What part of "pulling out is a failsafe" don't you fucking get? For christ's sakes man you're being deliberately obtuse.

you keep ignoring the rapist bit so methinks you're a rapist and i don't talk to rapists

we done naow
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>>71203820
and that will happen every. single. time.

sorry you can't learn from history.
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>>71203834
i'm sorry
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>>71203792
If you listen to any form of punk please stop and also while your at it get run over you fascist scum
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>>71203764
>>71203781
>Words mean nothing anymore
Yes, that's the right way to go about it. Just openly EMBRACE post-modernism and its nihilistic implications. All you're doing is proving how reactionary you are.

>Both regimes are inherently authoritarian
Yeah, no shit. Everyone knows that. What's dumb is calling them fascist. All you're doing is actively engaging in the destruction of meaning and thus encouraging the eventual breakdown of all communication. Instead of saying "Wah, lefties are fascist", argue about how the left are advocating authoritarianism and how dangerous it is. No one's going to listen to you if you're factually incorrect. It isn't semantics when we're talking about the actual definition of words and ideologies. You're just as bad as leftists who twist words and decentralise meaning in line with post-structuralist ideas, which has lead to this whole idpol issue that you guys hate in the first place.
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>>71203907
>If you listen to any form of punk please stop and also while your at it get run over you fascist scum
haha

you have mental illness

good luck with that mi amigy
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Abortion isn't a right and communism is gay.
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>>71203856
It won't happen if there aren't fascists anymore.
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>>71203843
Not everyone can afford birth control pills and many people can not take it for medical reasons.

Condoms break (not to mention sex education is often times poor).

Pulling out, even by the most liberal measure, is not entirely safe. It's like playing Russian roulette.

There are plenty of ways people who are otherwise "safe" can have an unwanted pregnancy. You live in a vacuum where the only unwanted pregnancies happen to careless people while you advocate for a method that is NOT fail safe. You're fucking delusional.

And all you can do is call me a rapist because I guess when you're out of arguments you might as well shit post.

Fuck off.
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>>71203856
T-T
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>>71203920
>everyone uses hyperbole at you
>but you shouldn't use hyperbole back
man, nuance is gone.

no one is going to listen to your calm rhetoric. if you call people nazis for such pathetic reasons, you might just be called a fascist for the same.

We are in the buzzword age.
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>>71203946
>It won't happen if there aren't fascists anymore.
how you achieve that impossible state, hmm?

kill anyone that disagrees with you?

totallydoesntsoundlikefascism
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>>71203955
>being this mad on the internet
you need to calm down

>>71203966
the people you want to smash the heads of aren't fascists. you're wrong and you have mental illness. you're not one of the "good guys". you are a violent sociopath.
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>>71204005
killing fascists seems pretty not fascist... no?

how do you think the nazis were defeated?
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>>71203900
and I'm dad.

>>71203920
>Post-Modernism

Nigga, Fascism can be used for any authoritarian government by the definition of the word alone. "Communism" is practically a synonym with how it works.

But if you really want to differentiate, then they're both authoritarian. Happy now? Does that make those fringe ideologies ANY better?

>"Wah lefties are fascist"
I'm sorry, what were all the protestors against Trump calling him?

And you're saying that I'M killing the word "fascist." The word's been dead for a year, buddy.

I ain't even a Trumpeteer.
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>>71204021
you know someone has lost an argument when they pull out the "u mad bro"
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>>71204042
i disagree with the loose definitions that "fascist" and "nazi" have acquired.

it literally is the new way of saying "you are someone i disagree with"
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>>71204044
>h3h3drone
>shit tier level understanding of politics

why am i not surprised
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>>71204065
What's to argue? You are a weasel and you ignore my points. It's tiring.

you also seem mad m8 i'm just lookin out 4 u

b
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>>71204021
>>71203929
same fagging hard I see
>sorely ignorant
>thinks he's from the master race
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>>71204083
>lives in a dream world
>wants to kill his enemies
>refuses to look at history
>is insane
noice
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>>71202747
MC Ride
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>>71204083
>No rebuttal to my argument
>lol his reaction image is a youtuber he must be dumb

And this is why abortion should be a right, desu
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>>71204094
responding to three separate people in two separate posts is not same fagging

i also don't believe in a master race. WOW

SHOCKING
>>
>MEANINGLESS WORDS. In certain kinds of writing, particularly in art criticism and literary criticism, it is normal to come across long passages which are almost completely lacking in meaning(2). Words like romantic, plastic, values, human, dead, sentimental, natural, vitality, as used in art criticism, are strictly meaningless, in the sense that they not only do not point to any discoverable object, but are hardly ever expected to do so by the reader. When one critic writes, ‘The outstanding feature of Mr. X's work is its living quality’, while another writes, ‘The immediately striking thing about Mr. X's work is its peculiar deadness’, the reader accepts this as a simple difference opinion. If words like black and white were involved, instead of the jargon words dead and living, he would see at once that language was being used in an improper way. Many political words are similarly abused. The word Fascism has now no meaning except in so far as it signifies ‘something not desirable’.
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>>71203981
>>everyone uses hyperbole at you
>>but you don't use hyperbole back
Yes, exactly. There is nothing to be gained from it. It does nothing to solve the issue or elleviate tension. It's just childish spitting at each other.

>We are in the buzzword age
That isn't a good thing and you shouldn't be supporting it. The way things are, the West is going to be stuck in a state of endless oscillation, swinging between the two political ideologies over and over without anything changing. Everything change one side brings, the other side will replace with their own interpretation and this will repeat until it collapses in on itself. This is the inevitable downfall of the West - when communication breaks down, people stop unifying, and entropy brings everything crashing down.
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>>71204124
I hear what you're saying, and agree more than you know, but there is nothing that is going to stop the inevitable conflict that's coming.

No amount of calm, resolute discourse will alleviate the unbelievable tension that has been built up over the past few years. The west is going to die, so you might as well shitpost.
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>>71204044
>Fascism can be used for authoritarian government by definition alone.
Clearly not.
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>>71204124
I agree, but at the end of the day, those on the sidelines will be the sane ones left. Kudos to the kids on the fence, at least they'll be what's left after the idiots kill eachother.
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Abortion isn't a moral good, but it is an ethical necessity. A democratic state that operates on ethics instead of morals won't find its laws at odds with public consciousness due to demographic or value shifts over generations.
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What's with calling stuff fascist? It literally was never relevant outside of Italy
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>>71204194
And what are the characteristics? only difference is the "right-wing" label tacked on to it.

Fascies and Commies aren't any different from eachother as authoritarian fringe ideologies.
Semantics don't change what they are.
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>>71204194
>implying definitions matter
protip: they don't

Or do you think it's impossible to racist against whites? The definition seems to imply you can, but if you argue this out loud you will be laughed at (and called a nazi)
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>>71204251
>2017
>still doesnt understand what institutional racism is
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>>71204340
Nothing to see here.
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>>71204225
>>71204225
Because the word provides more shock value then calling someone an alt-right kid and rightfully so, it seems that all these fascists think its just a political system which makes sense because you have to be a certain level of deluded to be one and have nothing to do with their nicer seeming version of racist fascist views
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>>71204392
see >>71204120
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>>71204237
>Semantics
You really love that word, don't you? The definition of a word isn't semantics. Also, with characteristics, two the of major stand-outs that separate it from Communism is the fact that a Fascist regime is Capitalist and also that religion is intertwined with the government. A Communist regime is Socialist and secular.

>>71204251
Definitions do matter, and I know you think so too. If you didn't, then why wouldn't you go and agree with the concept of being racist against white people? I mean, in all honesty, I can see some logic behind the concept of CHANGING the definition of racism, as there is more weight behind white on black racism than black on white racism (not just because of history, but also because the white population in the West significantly out number that of the black population), but black on white racism is still bad. People have been calling for a change in definition as black on white racism has constantly been used to derail conversations about racism against minorities. It's hard to hold an argument when someone counters your issue with a smaller, yet related issue. If you say, "well, that doesn't matter right now", you'll be discarded as a bigot. If you start to engage with it however, then you start to shift away from the original topic and now the argument breaks down. Some have tried to deal with it by just saying "oh, it doesn't exist", which I think is silly and while it may work for them in the short-term, it will definitely have negative long-term effects.
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>>71204340
I do, and I wish when people referred to it, they used the term "institutional racism" which does exist.

That being said, a group of blacks beating the shit out of a white kid for being white is still racism whether institutional racism exists or not. It's not "not racist" just because it's "fighting back", because it's not fighting the enemy it claims to. A young white boy is not responsible for institutional racism, even if he benefits from it. He is targetted for skin color and attacked—that is still a racist motivation.
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