A scientific study proved people stopped discovering new music

hopefully i'll raise cool patrician kids who read pitchfork 2.0 on the brainwaves to keep me in the know

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>Einstürzende Neubauten
>Swans
>Ismo Alanko
>Pimeys
>Björk
>Blixa Bargeld
>Amason
>Aphex Twin
>Kate Bush
No problem

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>>71178318
>mfw I still have 8 years

My dad is always listening to new stuff, I call bullshit.

>>71178487
Yeah same. I think this is probably true on a general level since most of my friend's dads like music from their time or stuff that is reminiscent of that, but then there are people like my dad who keep up with new and interesting music better than most young people I know

>>71178374
>Ismo Alanko
noice.

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>>71178709
perus suomikamaa/typical Finnish stuff
Ismo Kullervo Alanko is his best

Scientific research proved the moon is made of cheese.

>>71178318
Bullshit.

A scientific study proved OP is a faggot

>>71179057
37 y/o here

It's true. We stop caring because we realize
1) music is tied into nostalgia, and thus it's more enjoyable to continue to hear artist we liked in our teens and 20s rather than dumb shit we've never heard before, and
2) we don't have time to invest in discovering new music because we got work/bills/kids/wife/mortgage/etc

>>71179967
Nice Youtube copypaste.

>>71180018
Tell me how is 10th grade is coming along?

"Most people in the world don't actually like music. Those who do usually become musicians."

-- Kurt Cobain

If I'm still alive at 33 I've done something wrong.

I think it's bullshit anyway since I've gone out of my way to find new music for the past 8 years anyway. I don't think I'd just stop in 9 more.

But my teen years were in the early 2000s; I have no particular love for that era of music.

>>71180074
Are you a NEET?

>>71178318
Discovering music is one of my favorite things and I don't think age will stop it.

Even if that study is real it doesn't take into account that people older than 33 didn't have the internet for a good portion of their lives

>>71180088
Not employed but I work.

I don't want to get old and most of the stuff in the material world doesn't interest me so I have no desire for a career.

>>71180106
>Not employed but I work.
What do you do for a living?

How about your wide and kids?

>>71180117
Oddjobs, usually cleaning and babysitting.

I don't believe in marriage and I don't want kids.

>>71178688
Christgau said many of his peers started to give up on new music during the Carter years. He did also note that a lot of them were still able to maintain a candid admiration for punk and alternative bands, but hip-hop was completely beyond them.

>>71180169
So you are pretty much just a 19 year old

All I listen to is Shoegaze and Dreampop and I'm 20. Guess I'm settled

>>71180178
That's not a generational thing so much as it was that black music in general is pretty indigestible to most white people. Most of the white baby boomers he's referring to probably didn't listen to soul and funk in the 60s-70s either.

>>71180188
You say that like it's a bad thing. I have freedom which is the most valuable thing to me.

>>71178318
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDKGkWU0lWQ

>>71180234
>being a manchild isn't a bad thing
Sure

>>71180246
Enjoy being a slave.
I'll enjoy having a life.

>>71180219
Still, many dadrockers like Bob Dylan had a candid admiration of hip-hop. Roger Daltrey said that sadly enough, rappers are the only artists around today who have anything meaningful to say.

>>71179967
I know this is bait, but you could've made it a little more believable. What if you're a musician? Incorporate that into your pasta and you might get a lot more of those sweet (You)'s.

>>71180263
They're professional musicians, a quite separate breed from the casual listening white dadrocker who only cares about whatever was out when he was 15.

>>71180101
Sure it is. The study he decided not to post for some reason. It's bait, simple as that.

>>71180263
Please post that interview. There's an ever growing list of people to get disappointed in.

>>71180255
>Enjoy being a slave.
I'm self employed.

Enjoy flipping burgers
>>71180265
>What if you're a musician?
I am actually.

>>71180318
http://pigeonsandplanes.com/news/2016/10/the-who-roger-daltrey-rap-music

>>71180343
It's funny because I already said what I do.

You're still a slave.

>>71180374
>It's funny because I already said what I do.
Odd Jobs?

Yeah enjoy flipping burgers in no time

>You're still a slave.
How so?

>>71180374
At least sage when you reply to bait.

>>71180391
>I disagree so it must be b8!
Excellent critical reasoning anon

>>71180292
Yeah probably. In fact, Christgau said when he first started, most rock critics didn't give a shit about black musicians other than Chuck Berry and bluesmen. He was one of the only guys that took an active interest in James Brown, Diana Ross, P-Funk, etc, and there was definitely a snob/racist undercurrent with a lot of rock critics.

>>71180390
Nope, I'd just go without working. Thanks to my excellent leeching abilities I actually have enough to live off of for quite some time.

http://www.avclub.com/article/new-study-shows-people-stop-listening-new-music-33-218752

I call bullshit. that study just shows that top 40 music listeners are younger

>>71180400
Man if it ain't bait it's sad.

>>71180485
>Thanks to my excellent leeching abilities
So you are a NEET

>>71180530
That thing I already said I was? Yeah, not much of a surprise.

Learn to manipulate people and gvt, live virtually free.

>>71180529
Why? What's the problem?

>>71180263
>rappers are the only artists around today who have anything meaningful to say

Because they're black, grew up in a shithole with little to no future prospects? Same could be said for the hundreds of millions of deprived white people.

>>71178318
i havent given a shit about discovering new music since i was maybe 22

im locked in

>a scientific study
>proved

stopped reading there

i think you can still enjoy new music but it would need to have some kind of familiarity to you or just blatant influence from stuff that you liked or were exposed to

>>71180501
>I call bullshit. that study just shows that top 40 music listeners are younger
It's all music listened to on Spotify, and the conclusions reasonably explain the lack of older people listening to new music

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The stuff that I do has a very low mindless-fun quotient, which is important to all forms of mass entertainment. Unless you can do the dishes to it, unless you can talk over it, then it's drawing too much of your attention. For the broadest base of American pop-music consumption, the mindless-fun quotient is very important. You buy a record because it reinforces your lifestyle. Not necessarily to listen to it, but just to have it with you, just to be in the atmosphere of your life so you can groove along with your peer group with this thing supporting your aesthetic. You're upwardly mobile, you're a groovy guy, kinda modern, so you have fusion music. You're a laid-back, romantic person, you have the Eagles and Linda Ronstadt. These are artifacts that support your lifestyle. Now what kind of a person buys one of my records? Obviously people who don't necessarily conform to the standard configuration. But they need to be entertained just as much as the other people. Everybody is entitled to listen to the kind of music or see the kind of film or whatever entertainment that makes them feel good. That's what entertainment is for – to make you feel good. And theoretically, there must be people out there who use the records that I make to reinforce their lifestyles or whatever image they have of themselves or whatever image they have of the way they live. The easiest way to figure it is that there are lyrics on the record that say things you agree with. People who listen to my records are cynical. Nobody wants the feeling that they're totally alone.

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I'm 33 and still discovering

>>71178318
36 here still look for new stuff though I will admit it's slowed way down since my twenties.

That study is for casuals, those of us that have been into music since children are still checking out the new release pages

>>71179922
/thread

>>71180054
>Most people in the world don't actually like music

Yeah okay junkie

32 here

Unless I fucking JUST myself in the next 6 months, I dont see how I'll stop seeking new music. Once I'm 33.

>>71180054
>"Most people in the world don't actually like music. Those who do usually become musicians."

>Googles this
>the only result is this thread where you typed this

>>71180564
Aren't most rappers just bullshitting, don't most of them come from the middle class or higher?

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>>71178318
>"a" scientific study
this is some "I FUCKING love science" tier shit. Go back to facebook.

>>71179967
>nobody at work who listens to music
>no friends who you talk to about music
>the time you are now spending pouring gasoline into your car comes directly from your 'discover new music' time, naturally

>>71180618
Have you ever even met someone over 30 who is really into music? They do not use spotify. People over 30 who are really into music are buying vinyl on discogs, ranting about how "mp3s never sound good to me, man". I'm 26 and there is a lot of stuff from the early 90s I listen to that is not on Spotify simply because the record companies are either gone or holding out (or simply don't care to put the records/bands on there).

Just as people were wrong in analysing 'general music trends' through last.fm, they're wrong to do so with Spotify and YouTube. But gotta get them clicks, yo.

>>71181002
>Have you ever even met someone over 30 who is really into music?
Yes
>They do not use spotify.
They do.

Any other questions?

>I'm 26
Opinion discarded

>>71181049
>Yes
You have to exclude yourself anon
>They Do
What did I just say?
>Opinion Discarded
Same here

>Any other questions?
How is it being a faggot?

>>71180989
Some do, some don't.

IIRC Jay Z and 50 Cent used to be drug dealers involved in actual shootings.

>>71181002
I've somewhere over 2,000 compact discs
Filled a 160 gig iPod

I swore to myself I am not going to start buying vinyl

Don't know how long I'm going to last before I give in.

>>71181049
do you always back up your posts this well? I feel thoroughly mentally emancipated.

music for this feel?

>>71181079
>You have to exclude yourself anon
I don't use Spotify.
>What did I just say?
Something not relevant.

>How is it being a faggot?
I wouldn't know.
>>71181136
>do you always back up your posts this well?
What do you want? In know people my age who use SPotify, so anon is incorrect. There's nothing more to say.
>I feel thoroughly mentally emancipated.
There's a first time for everything

>>71181117
>Don't know how long I'm going to last before I give in

I like to think of them more as merch of my favourite bands. Cooler on my shelf than some crappy t-shirt that will fade in a few weeks

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>>71178382
>mfw still have 14 years

>>71181244
There is also the nostalgia.

When I got about 5 years old I'd look through my dads records all the time.

>>71181330
UNDERAGE

GTFO

>>71180074
>le die young meme

>>71181379
33-14=19.
Learn to math faggot.

The real locking in doesn't happen til much later, and it happens with more than just music obviously
We're all fine

>>71181410
Liar

>>71180682
Zappa knew what he was talking about

>>71181410
love when under-21ers get so butthurt about being called underage

>>71178318
>A waste of money says that this BS is correct, tomorrow it will be false.
0/10

>>71181865
Not possible

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>>71180054
>Kurt Cobain
>Respectable musical opinons
kek

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>>71180552
>Manipulate people and gvt, live virtually free
time for your free helicopter ride, famalam.

>>71182048
How's your music career coming?

>>71182125
>Kurt was a musician so his opinions are deffo valid

>>71182125
Kinda stagnate right now, you know? But hey, at least I'm not famous for being an edgy, suicidal junkie

>>71182117
Trump is a cuck who isn't doing anything.

Thanks for paying for my food.

>>71182205
>implying my response has anything to do with any politician, living or dead.
nice deductive skills, detective

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>>71181410
19 = underage.

>>71182048
He's right

>>71182175
>you know?
I wouldn't know. I play in several bands and have to turn down gigs constantly
>at least I'm not famous for being an edgy, suicidal junkie
I could only wish

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>>71182287
>I wouldn't know. I play in several bands and have to turn down gigs constantly
I dont believe that
>I could only wish
Careful not to cut yourself on that edge, desu

>>71182230
Only people who act that stupid are Trump memers.

Kinda obvious.

>>71182383
>I dont believe that
I don't care what non-musicians believe
>Careful not to cut yourself on that edge, desu
Like when you implied Cobain's opinions weren't respected or that he wasn't musical?

>>71182615
Never said he wasnt musical.
Never said his opinions weren't respected. They obviously are. I implied I didnt respect them.
Also, being a musician doesnt entitle you to a monopoly on musical criticism. I disagreed with Cobain's opinion. I thought it was stupid. That's not edgy. That's a normal thing to do. Try again.

>>71182704
>I implied I didnt respect them.
Why not?
>being a musician doesnt entitle you to a monopoly on musical criticism
No but it just makes my criticism better than yours.
>I disagreed with Cobain's opinion.
What opinion?
>That's a normal thing to do
Blindly disagreeing wioth someone you've never met about a thing you don't understand is a normal thing to do?

>>71182780
>No but it just makes my criticism better than yours.
No, it doesn't. It absolutely does not. Just because you partake in some activity doesn't automatically make your criticism more valid than someone else's.
>Blindly disagreeing wioth someone you've never met about a thing you don't understand is a normal thing to do?
I wasn't blindly disagreeing. I read the quote that was put forth, and I disagreed with it. I rather enjoy music of many kinds, and I'm not a musician. You don't have to be a musician to appreciate music. I think his opinion on the people who "really like music" was a stupid opinion. Were any of his other opinions stupid? I don't know, I haven't read up on them. Forgive me for saying I didn't respect his "opinions". I don't respect that particular "opinion".
Obviously, Cobain was a more talented musician than I am, because I'm not a musician. That doesn't mean I have to bow to every one of his opinions simply because of his superior musical knowledge.. He said something I disagree with. That's it. The whole edgy suicidal junkie thing was really more of a joke than a serious insult.

>>71180054
>"Most people in the world don't actually like music. Those who do usually become musicians."
This hot take is correct.

Non musicians don't actually know what it takes to make music for a living. Not many people would choose it as a profession when they realize what it involves.

Musicians don't just like their own music either, they buy records from other people and listen to music more than most of the public does.

>>71182780
>Blindly disagreeing wioth someone you've never met about a thing you don't understand is a normal thing to do?

Not him, what's wrong with that?

Practically everyone listens to music regularly. To say they need to become a musician to enjoy it is absurd, maybe 10% of everybody I know has picked up an instrument in their lives, so the other 90% are incapable of enjoying music. It's a stupid statement.

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complete BS. my dad is in his mid forties and his favorite band, Being As An Ocean, is only a few years old. we saw them live and he said it was the best show he'd ever been to.

>>71182977
>Just because you partake in some activity doesn't automatically make your criticism more valid than someone else's.
Why not? Would you trust a plumber to do brain surgery?
>I read the quote that was put forth
Oh the fake quote? Nice
>I don't know, I haven't read up on them
So, once again discussing something you don't understand and didn't research.
>>71182999
>Not him, what's wrong with that?
Do you enjoy looking like a fool?

>>71182980
and what a hot take it is

>>71183105
>Do you enjoy looking like a fool?

Sorry I wasn't aware you need to be on personal terms with someone to disagree with their retarded opinions.

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>>71182125
>>71182171
>>71182175
>>71182230
>>71182287
>>71182383
>>71182615
>>71182704
>>71182780
>>71182977
>>71182980
>>71183105

>>71183199
Did you bother googling the quote?

Letterman's favorite band is the Foo Fighters, so there's that

>>71183105
>So, once again discussing something you don't understand and didn't research.
Again, I was only discussing THE QUOTE IN QUESTION. Can you read?
>Why not? Would you trust a plumber to do brain surgery?
Strawman argument. I never said I would trust a non-musician to do a musician's job. I said that the musicians opinion doesnt automatically become more valid just because he is a musician. To use your argument of a plumber and a brain surgeon:
Let's say the brain surgeon does his job wonderfully. He is the best brain surgeon in the world. One day he says, "You know, I think we should take the brain out of the body to work on it and then just put it back in after we're done!" Now, obviously, a brain surgeon wouldnt say this, but for the sake of argument, let's say he says it. That is a stupid thing to do, isnt it?
The plumber says "Well, doctor, that is a very stupid opinion, and I'm pretty sure it's a bad idea."
Under your logic, The plumber's opinion is automatically less valid, because hey, he's not a doctor right?
I will say this again. Just because you partake in a particular activity doesn't mean you can't have stupid opinions about said activity.
Kurt Cobain had an opinion (or at least what I thought was an opinion, if your comment about it being fake is true), and I thought it was a stupid opinion. No more, no less.

Good riddance, i was never into music anyways

>>71183253
>Again, I was only discussing THE QUOTE IN QUESTION. Can you read?
Nice backpedaling
> The plumber's opinion is automatically less valid, because hey, he's not a doctor right?
Correct. He doesn't know the motivations of the surgeon to operate in this manner.

>>71183253
>The plumber says "Well, doctor, that is a very stupid opinion, and I'm pretty sure it's a bad idea."
What's a plumber doing in surgery in the first place?

Nice try

>>71183334
It's not backpedaling, you insufferable moron.
From my post:
> I read the quote that was put forth, and I disagreed with it.
"The quote that was put forth".
Hmm, sure does sound like I am talking about one quote, huh?
And before you say, "You said "Respectable musical opinionS in your original post", see:
" Forgive me for saying I didn't respect his "opinions". I don't respect that particular "opinion". "
>>71183366
The plumber doesnt have to be in surgery to say it. They could be anywhere. If you're going to try to be smart with me, think a little harder next time.

>>71178318

That's not even true, it showed that statistically people become increasingly unlikely to be receptive to new music as they approach that age which is an entirely different thing. Why are people so bad at understanding things they've read?

There are 80-year-old dudes that still discover and appreciate new music. I know people in their mid-20s that already refuse to listen to anything other than early 2000s pop punk. How invested you are in the field makes a big difference, anyone who listens casually is probably going to get locked in pretty early but anyone who visits a board specifically about finding and discussing music probably has nothing to worry about for many decades.

>>71183092
What a fucking shill

>>71183424
>From my post:
Wrong post. it was here >>71182048
Your mention was Kurt Cobain, not the quote. Nice misdirection
>>71183424
>The plumber doesnt have to be in surgery to say it
Then how does he know this happened? He's speaking to the doctor directly in your scenario. Please use a feasible example that actually makes sense.

The answer is biological--during the teen years, your body becomes flooded with hormones and so music has a powerful, almost hallucinogenic effect on you. By the age of 20, as your hormones start to calm down, this effect disappears and music will never again do that. But there's some evidence that listening to music you heard as a teenager can partially reactivate this hallucinogenic effect in your brain.

>>71183504
>Then how does he know this happened? He's speaking to the doctor directly in your scenario. Please use a feasible example that actually makes sense.
You realize that people can discuss things outside of their place of work, correct? Not once did I say either man was in surgery when he said it.
>Your mention was Kurt Cobain, not the quote. Nice misdirection
" I implied I didnt respect them." I wasn't implying i didnt respect Cobain. I implied i didn't respect his opinions, and then I corrected myself by limiting my statement to the quote in question. Don't be an idiot. Try harder

>>71183435
My brother is one of those people. He rarely listens to anything but Eminem and nu metal.

I listen to more stuff from the 70s-80s on average than I do my own teen years. Sometimes I joke that I should have been born in 1968 instead of 1988.

>>71180219
>That's not a generational thing so much as it was that black music in general is pretty indigestible to most white people
lmfao. dude, do you have any idea who actually buys hip hop? the industry would collapse without white kids.

>>71183747
>implying white people listen to anything but backpack rap like Feminem and Kanye

Anyone see that Youtube video of the 80 year old guy doing karaoke Down With The Sickness? He was good at it too. Had a good set of pipes on him.

I've learned so much from this one thread no who's ready for me to regurgitate it back forcefully to them. I'm so ready to fuck

>>71183586
>I wasn't implying i didnt respect Cobain.
So you misspoke then
>You realize that people can discuss things outside of their place of work, correct?
So the doctor was saying this to a plumber at a bar or something? What's the context?

most of /mu/ has 20 years so idk what the problem is.

>>71183435
I really don't care for pop punk at all. The nasally vocals plus how the fuck can a grown adult unironically listen to songs about skateboarding and teenage love?

I turn 32 this year and i'm discovering more than I ever have in my life

>>71178318
Does this mean Fantano will quit his job in 2 or 3 years?

>>71184671
How's your wife, kids and career?

>>71184852
great career, awesome GF, no kids.

>>71184671
I'm 42 in July and i'm enjoying more music than ever.

>>71183435
>using logic and critical thinking

GTFO NORMIE REEEEEE

>>71184879
Must be great if you have time to shitpost on 4chan!

>>71184671
I turn 32 this year too.

>>71184671
>>71184946
well you guys have 1 year left, make it count!

I'm also turning 32 this year.
Haven't heard anything interesting or memorable in a long time. I feel like I've hit the wall already.

>>71185331
why exactly do you come here, then?

>>71185340
Because I enjoy discussing, and sharing, the music that I do like with people.
Every once in a while I will find something I like here. Or find related projects I may not have known about before.

>>71178318
I'm getting there, I listen to new music but sometimes It feels like a chore. I feel better just listening to old shit I like or side projects by those people/bands.

>>71178318
Impetuous Ritual
Dead Congregation
Krypts
Deathspell Omega
Blood Of Kingu
Grave Upheaval
Mayhem
Swans
Aphex Twin
John Coltrane
Paul Desmond
Charles Mingus
SNTS
Function
Polar Inertia


In general: black/death metal - Jazz (bebop/hardbop-cooljazz/klezmer) - techno (minimal/industrial/dub)

I listened way more genres, still do in fact but not that frequently, but those ended up my favorite. Btw i'm 27.

>>71180682
god zappa was insufferable

>>71185479
Oh, i forgot artists like Kangding ray, Byetone, Alva Noto, Marcus Fischer...

>>71185479
People like this usually don't make it to their 30s.

How are you going to off yourself anon?

>>71185456
>>71185419
>>71185331
God, these posts are so Reddit it's not even funny. But that's expected from a tripfag.

>>71185582
I used to be fucked up, but not anymore. i think i'll live to 40 at least.

>>71185625
By reddit, do you mean obviously made by a grown man as opposed to 4chan teenagers?

>>71185741
yes that's exactly what anon means

>>71185883
Yeah fuck this board, I'm out. It's a high school cafeteria, and not even the good tables.

>>71185954
as shitty as this board is, its the best 4chan has to offer lol

I'm not gonna say people stop discovering new music at age 33, but most people even when discovering new music past that age, their set-in-stone favourites are songs they heard while they were teenagers.

>>71178318
>Proved
Kys cunt

>>71183783
dude to you ever leave your house

white kids listening to trap is everwhere

>>71185741
>grown men
>tripfagging
That would be incredibly sad if it were true.

>>71186045
>their set-in-stone favourites are songs they heard while they were teenagers

There are not very many songs I heard as a teenager that are personal favorites of mine.

>>71178318
A scientific study proved PLEBS stopped discovering new music at age 33. Have you picked your favorites before they are locked in for good?

>>71186132
When were you a teenager?

>>71186237
Early 2000s.

>>71186270
Ok yeah, I can see why you wouldn't miss that era of music. Pretty fucking bad.

I really don't like 2000-06. I think that era was what managed to kill off rock. The bands out at that time were so bland and shitty that you can't blame kids for not wanting to pick up a guitar. Who ever heard a Staind or Nine Days song and thought "Cool, I want to be Aaron Lewis someday."

I remember being 15 and I'd hear some 70s song on CRR and think "How come bands these days don't play cool solos like that? They can't do anything but power chords."

On top of that, brickwalling made most of the music out at that time unlistenable.

>>71186430
I'd agree with that sentiment. Didn't really give a fuck about playing guitar or listening to music at all until I listened to Infinity Land (Biffy Clyro). It's kind of a shame albums like that were in the minority back in 04 though.

The whole nu-metal, alt-rock, pop-punk scene, well, I guess guitar music in general, just got bloated and boring after a certain point. Pop music is bland at the best of times but you can't expect people to keep buying if you keep peddling the same sound for a decade without any desire to innovate.

>>71183475
So much fucking this

>>71183092
>mid forties
>best show he'd ever been to.

Your dad is shit

>>71183569
The real answer is you have Aspergers

>>71183783
>beieves niggers are consumers and not subsidized by the state

wow

>>71184908
pretty much this

I never post when I have a GF

Don't believe anyone who says they do

>>71185340
To laugh at you

>>71185515
Not to mention sucked ass

>>71185971
/pol/ is best

>>71186430
>Who ever heard a Staind or Nine Days song and thought "Cool, I want to be Aaron Lewis someday."
Lots of fucking dipshits

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I'm 20 and it's already happening, except I used to listen to a lot more music now all I listen too is Boards of Canda and Coil

>>71178318
citation needed

>>71178318
I'm 34 and recently discovered Elbrus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Un3TV4fDS8

>>71188345
Read the thread faggo

>>71187906
Listen to Coil's The Time Machines side projects, that will probably get you into drone, you can also listen to the bizarre ARS album, which will get you in an experimental itch, though those albums are extremely long, especially the ARS one which is 3 hours long