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Is there anything more pathetic than a timpani masterclass?

>>71054817
Your piano recital

What is your favorite Busoni transcription?
Essential: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnIRFT477G8

I've started playing the piano 2 weeks ago, and I have a question: how long does it take to develop true hands independence? I practice about 3 hours everyday, and I'm followed by a good teacher (I'm mainly doing Bayer exercises, scales, chord progressions and easy long arpeggios)

Who's the best pianist for Bach? I'm more than fine with Gould but his grunting can annoy me sometimes

>>71055466
Koroliov is Gould with better technique, less grunting and higher recordin quality.
Is Art of Fugue is probably one of the ''best'' recordings in modern history, in general.

>>71055466
Yudina

>>71055457
Probably after playing Bach (Anna Magdalena's Notebook).

>>71055495
>>71055523
Thanks. Looking at Koroliov's Goldberg Variations now

>>71055457
Out of curiosity, how old are you? I played when I was very young then switched to trumpet. Would like to play again but I'm worried I won't ever feel comfortable.

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Petzold

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hSoVLQ3SBc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnLy31-Z7E4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w433wbM14Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdDU4qwaI80
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oESzlizAafE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7jem-LgKgA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9MU1T6uDXA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s22fNJdICQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an77qFp0Y9Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BSfYz4_Gbg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xweAry37KUg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOVF-33A9HI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqSAGwa49MM

>>71055466
Andras Schiff

I very much enjoyed this:

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/01/02/bachs-holy-dread

Alex Ross dances about architecture fairly well, if you ask me

>>71055595
I guess that's a good news, since I already know that my teacher will force on me Bach compositions as soon as possible (he's truly obsessed, I'm pretty sure that in his library there is every score ever published by Bach).

>>71055661
I'm 19. I've played bass for my entire teenagehood, I have no experience with keyboards but apparently I've developed by myself lots of musicality (as vague as it may sound). I don't know if I'll aver attempt to master the instrument. I haven't talked about it with my teacher yet and every information on the internet seems to converge on the same opinion: no one can become a piano virtuoso in their 20s.
I'm not that hopeful, but I'd love to learn it to a point where I can try my compositions on my piano at ease, wich shouldn't be that hard (a piano major I've talked with told me that being a grade 4-5 is usually enough to enroll in composition courses).

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>>71055466
Backhaus

>>71056024
Thanks for the information. I suppose the only thing to do is start lessons. I hardly expect virtuosity, but something close to fluency would be nice.

What are some good "heavy sounding" composers?

Names I have from previous thread (don't know if legit or not): Bruckner, Stravinsky, Mahler, J.S Bach, Ives, Bartok, Cowell, Carter, Schoenberg quartets, Bartók, Ligeti, Rachmaninoff, Telemann, Liszt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueGb_CIt7DE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLkg-duiFsE

I'm not the same guy, btw. Just curious.

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>>71056197
Add Wagner to that list senpai

Welcome to the high test club

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>>71056231
>Wagner
>high test

>>71056231
>>71056266
Stop this

is a high test like a drug test to figure out how high you are

>>71056266
Stravinsky was high test until his faggoty Neoclassical era

Symphony of Psalms, his Violin Concerto and Mass are exempt from that frilly wig and powder faggoty shit though

>>71056231
>Wagner
>high test
>literally a manlet, highpitched crossdresser who dressed only in satin and silk

Come on.

Oh shit i forgot to ask for your favorite Schoenberg pieces in the OP, post them NOW

>>71056749
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-pVz2LTakM

ez

>>71056353
>Neoclassical era
Classicism is the most high test thing in classical music, unlike wagnerian sentimental firetruckery which gave birth to the utter degeneracy.

>>71056610
His music speaks for itself

>>71056797
>Classicism is the most high test thing in classical music

classicism degenerated music until the rediscovery of Bach enhanced Haydn, Mozart, and Beethoven's music

You're telling me this is high test?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bUz6460s90
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZl_jErhlhY


>>71056797
>wagnerian sentimental firetruckery which gave birth to the utter degeneracy.

Parsifal falsifies this statement

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Stravinsky wasn't regenerate because sought to give old forms new life, but that music is for the worship of God and God alone

Muh classicism is a meme by pseudo patricians to project their faggotry

>>71056749
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZlB2tRyvQw

>>71056610
Don't mind him, he's the same faggot who can't into Mahler

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>>71055466
David Fray is incredible. Both his Bach and Schubert. You should check him out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW2BgmslH2c

>>71055466
>old memes
Edwin Fischer
Samuel Feinberg
>not-so old memes
Tatiana Nikolayeva
Sviatoslav Richter
>new memes
Zhu Xiao-Mei
Angela Hewitt

>>71057713
Bach sounds better on period instruments

Is it worth it to listen to composers like Beethoven and Chopin on piano? Should I listen to fortepiano performances instead?

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>>71057820
For Beethoven, I think this is decent. No piano sonatas from Stair as far as I know though. Are there even any HIP Chopin performances? Is that a thing?

>>71057878
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrZgrPkRmpQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDB6-oXT8es

>>71058134
holy shit . i guess harpsichord>piano in literally every context

Should we bring back piano percussion pedals? Do we need them?

>>71056197
Good ol' Beethoven.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lHOYvIhLxo

>>71058134
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4KKeCihIe0