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>there are "people" on /mu/ who don't have

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>there are "people" on /mu/ who don't have enough of an attention span to listen to an album all the way through
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I hardly listen to single songs. Full album experiences are superior
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The very first time I listen to an album, I listen to it on Spotify with ads, on shuffle, with no headphones, on a tablet.
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>>71020509

Same.
I don't even have playlists anymore, I just listen to albums from the beginning.
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Here's a question /mu/, when you start an album do you finish it automatically no matter how you feel about it?

Some albums are just such a chore to get through that I just end half way through if I'm not getting anything out of it.
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>>71020525
>>71020509
it would be like only watching the first half of a movie, or only watching a few scenes from a movie
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>>71020558
case in point...
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What do you do when you have like a 15 minute car ride
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>>71020491
Impossible soul is 25 minutes long mang, and it just goes BLOOP BLOOP with some vocals thrown in the mix.

>>71020558
Only if it's the first time I listen to it, Get to heaven was such a chore, the guy's voice can get tiring very quickly.
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>>71020576
have you ever walked out of a movie?
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>>71020603
2X
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>don't like thing
>force yourself to listen to it anyway

I mean if it's your first time and you wanna give it a fair shot, sure, but c'mon.
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>>71020562

I mean you could make the argument listening to single songs in playlists is just like watching a bunch of random scenes from different movies pushed together.
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>>71020723
yes it's exactly like that. only a moron with ADD would do such a thing
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>>71020723
not really faggot its way different
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>>71020723
Only if they're pieces from a conceptual album really, otherwise most albums don't have any storyline or coherence even, like Syro.
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>>71020723
>>71020736
no you fucking can't because movies are narrative and 98% of music isn't really
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>>71020765

Yeah I agree, I was just using the same argument the person I mentioned used in reference to not completing albums.
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>>71020629
Yes
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>>71020517
triggered
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>>71020792
Maybe talk to a doctor about your ADD?
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There's such things as singles/EP oriented genres
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I never got it either. All the albums I have listened to I have listened to before in full. It just feels weird not to.
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>>71020576
anyone who cant finish this should leave this board.
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>>71020848

How would listening to like 40 / 60 minutes of an album mean I have ADD?
If anything a playlist would make more sense since you'd need constant variety to stimulate you.
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>>71020853
So basically 2 okay songs and the rest is bloat?
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Reminder to you /mu/tants that if you claim to be superior by listening to full albums, but only do play in the background while shitposting on /mu/, then you're not much better really.
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>>71020929
You suck at writing sentences.
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>>71020908
You mean 2 songs
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>>71020491
Name 1 (one) person who cant listen through a whole album
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>>71021053
My friend Keith
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My only problem with listening to full albums is rap albums, usually. Generally, they're unnecessarily long, imo.
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>>71021155
The problem is you like rap music. Rap is a joke; liking rap means you have no taste & possibly you are a cuck
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>>71021196
Why, please explain in complete detail how that means someone has no taste and is a cuck
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>>71021053
People who don't really like music.
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>>71021225
They obviously havent listened to this album before if they feel they dont like music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nO7IA1DeeI&list=PL9dk_xtWpAkKXxzv_TfLWmlJj6G3quWQ2
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>>71021224
>Why, please explain in complete detail how that means someone has no taste and is a cuck
Not the guy you're expecting a reply from, but let's be real, you're most likely than not listening to something that you don't want to blow your mind too much and you want to have something playing in the background.
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>>71021196
This desu
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>>71021256
And I thought I'd see a link to a concept album...
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>>71021266
I was literally just listening to this, you moron:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64WmVRcyGOU
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>>71021308
Trash music
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>>71021266
Music doesnt have to blow your mind to be enjoyable or good. You must be underage

>>71021301
Concept albums are pretty novelty and gay and underage
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>>71021308
Oh, wow, you're really being told a story while listening to that album and you're questioning the musicians vision and narrative.
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>>71021308
Yeah, this shit is terrible. I am sorry.
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Name me 1 (ONE) album that has a better second half than first half

I'll wait
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what album that you've fully listened to was the hardest to get through?

no troll answers
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>>71021330
>>71021337
>>71021341
What insightful critiques.
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>>71020558
I couldn't finish the new xx album, it was becoming infuriatingly boring. Those female vocals in particular were fucking terrible
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>>71021332
>Music doesnt have to blow your mind to be enjoyable or good. You must be underage
All right. I used that as an idiom. And again, let's be real, you're not questioning the deeper meaning of the story artist's telling you. You can barely understand the words.
>Concept albums are pretty novelty and gay and underage
Do you seriously consider that a valid argument?
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>>71021337
>Oh, wow, you're really being told a story while listening to that album and you're questioning the musicians vision and narrative.
>What insightful critiques.
Just as great as:
>Concept albums are pretty novelty and gay and underage
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ITT: fucking rockists
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>>71021352
Jesus Christ, I didn't realize there were people who only listen to Top 40 albums on /mu/, the reason those albums are frontloaded with all the singles is because that's the only reason anyone buys them and they don't expect many people to get to the end

Outside of those terrible manufactured albums, most artists put their best works at the end because it's the best place to end on a grand, breathtaking note because its followed by silence, a lot of albums put their long epic at the end, it wouldn't make sense anywhere else
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>>71020603
Do some people on here listen to albums all the way through every single time? I do it the first time and then just listen to individual tracks from an album unless I'm really in the mood to listen to the whole thing, usually if it's one of my favourites
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>>71021441
Explain why rap albums have skits then?
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>>71021443
specific examples only please
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>>71020853
This. Rocktards are incapable of understanding that different styles of music warrant different types of music consumption
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>>71021402
But lets be real here you are writing off an entire genre of music and calling someone a cuck for listening to it. Obviously there has been highly rated rap albums and songs that told detailed stories and emotions and its a great genre to do it since there is room for a lot of words to make the story come across and feelings of the artist.
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>>71021402
>you're not questioning the deeper meaning of the story artist's telling you. You can barely understand the words.
nigga speak for yourself, plenty of people actively consider the vision and context behind rap
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>>71021460
>If it's not rock then it's rap.
There are people on /mu/ right now that are this retarded
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>>71021475
Not the guy you're expecting a reply from, but Bob Dylan's Bringing It All Back Home would be a good example. The last 5 songs are some of the best in his career.
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>>71021499
>nigga speak for yourself, plenty of people actively consider the vision and context behind rap
No they do not. Hard to find a deeper meaning behind "sippin on lean nigga, glock in the 'rari. White girls in da club and they all up on me" and other thought provoking lyrics uttered by your favorite bull-erm, rapper, Young Nigga
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>>71021478
>This. Rocktards are incapable of understanding that different styles of music warrant different types of music consumption
True. Listening to some genres music is an experience and listening to other genres of music requires for example, but not necessarily, for you to be intoxicated or under the influence of drugs.
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>>71021548
There are plenty of good black lyricists. You're just a fucking retard.
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>>71021584
>music so bad you need drugs for it to sound okay
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>>71021601
>There are plenty of good black lyricists. You're just a fucking retard.
Here we go. You're from /pol/, right?
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>>71021548
>your favorite bull-erm
you fags can't make one post without bringing stale /pol/ memes in it.
the fact that you think there's no rap worth any consideration and all lyrics are that on the radio is so funny, but sad someone can be so delusional and not actively seeking help
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>>71021643
>>71021643
Nope. I can just easily see thinly-veiled racism when it's there.
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>>71021633
Yeah but what if lets say the same drugs made other genres worse?
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>>71021667
I'm not falling for it, sorry. It's not like we haven't had /pol/ thread disguised as threads about music before.
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>>71021655
Lemme try something else
>"I gotta stay fly-y-y-y-y-y-y"
>"till I die-ie-ie-ie-ie-ie-ie-ie-ie"
really makes you think

here lemme put on Acid Rap, that's supposed to be good right?
>"momma still wash my clothes"
>"momma still wash my clothes"
breath-taking. Is this the Black Lou Reed?
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>>71021705
I'm not sure why you replied to me and not the person I was replying to.
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>>71021601
I agree, there ARE good black lyricists. They are not rappers though.
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>>71021722
hey I can do that too
>WEN I PUTT SPIKE IN 2 MUH ARM I FEEL LIKE JESUS SON
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>>71021754
That's a good line though, actually is thought provoking
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>>71021722
The words may sound stupid but there still could me meaning behind the songs.
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>>71021747
Oh sorry. There are plenty of good rap lyricists too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiMtCJw_RVc
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>>71021782
MC Ride is not a rapper, and Death Grips is not a hip hop group. Death Grips has and always will be a conceptual art exhibition anchored by sound and vision.
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>>71021809
>I will not count this rap group as rap because it is actually good
Just because they're experimental and include influences from industrial and rock doesn't make them not hiphop.
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>>71021722
kek
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>>71021809
What is this link?
Why it says Hip-Hop. huh.
https://soundcloud.com/deathgrips/on-gp
https://soundcloud.com/deathgrips/death-grips-the-money-store-05
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>>71021773
No it really fucking isn't, its the lamest heroin line in all of music.
>>71021809
I hope you're not the same faggot shitting on clippng and now sucking DG dick
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>>71020517
first post on 4chan to actually make me feel like throwing up
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>>71021780
>Could be
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>>71021871
No it's one of the best actually.
>>71021871
I don't know what clippng is or if you meant clipping (in which case idk there is no context?) but nah dude I've been a DG fan since exmilitary
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I've always preferred to listen to music in album format. Of all the albums I've listened to, there are only 2 I can think of where I've even entertained the thought of skipping tracks, and one of those instances is from the remix disc of a B-sides compilation. Never really thought much of listening to music this way, if anything only listening to individual songs kinda weirds me out.
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>>71021584
Which drugs and which genres? Do I need to shoot up heroin to really full "get" Jazz and Grunge?
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>>71020509
Some Albums I've grown to enjoy it fully rather than singles mainly my favorite band The Black Lips and Telrvisions Marquee Moon
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>>71022146
>Getting grunge
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>>71020605
Really? I enjoyed all of GTH, but as someone not keen to britpop it was an amazing window to gaze through. My issue is that I can listen to an album up until the last two songs where they're usually the weakest ones, skip ahead, listen for a minute and decide if it's worth rewinding and listening in full
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>>71022170
Grunge is a genre full of heroin addicts and the music is informed and inspired by it
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>>71020882
He's saying you have ADD because you don't agree with him 100% and he has no other arguments.
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>>71020603
an EP

alternatively just start an album and don't finish it
the cops won't throw you in jail, don't worry
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>>71020517
LOL
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>>71020491
>trying to dictate other's music listen experiences to make yourself feel superior

get lost
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>>71020509
same
even my favorite tracks aren't that high on my last.fm compared to other songs since I play usually play the whole album through
>>71020525
I haven't listened to a playlist in years tbqh
>>71021352
Funeral is an easy one
also The Age of Adz probably
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>>71023068
Where do you think you are
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That's why I love punk albums
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>>71021352
The Angelic Process - Weighing Souls With Sand
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>>71022971
No, I am saying he has ADD because he can't listen to an album all the way through.
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>>71020509
>he still only listens to albums
I can only listen to a band's entire recorded output in one go. It's the only way to get a sense of what they were doing over their whole career.
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>>71020637
>implying anyone will listen to a full album they dislike
You should just find music that you enjoy desu
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>>71023876
there are some albums I didn't like at first but after like the 3rd listen it started to grow on me. If you don't give something more than one chance you'll miss out on a lot of stuff desu senpai
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i actually do have ADD and it fucking sucks man. i might have the physical ability to listen to the album all the way through but most of the time i just kinda drift out halfway and don't remember the music from there onwards so i have to do a replay from the track i actually remember playing
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I like sitting on my bed and putting Evening Sky (Fripp & Eno) on full blast, listening to the whole thing with my eyes closed.
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>>71020491
>there are "people" on /mu/ who haven't listened to the entirety of Opus Clavicumbalisticum in a single sitting
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>>71023068
this
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>>71021450
This. There's only one or two albums that I'll listen to the whole way through because it's pretty rare that a full listening is absolutely necessary.

It's not a matter of attention span, it's efficiency.
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I used to only listen to albums but thankfully I grew up. Nowadays the majority of music I listen to is just single songs.
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>>71023938
You don't dislike an album that you will like after 3 more listen, you just don't understand it yet.
If you're not retarded you can make the nuance between "i'm not sure what this is about" and "this is shit".
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>>71020491

I never want to meet any of you irl

>>71020509
>>71020525
>>71020736
>>71020836
>>71020848
>>71020862
>>71020864
>>71021225
>>71021337
>>71021443
>>71021633
>>71021900
>>71021900
>>71021900
>>71021900
>>71023832

music is fucking tame, music is literally nothing just fucking noise and you pretend you get pleasure out of it because you want people to think you are extremely complex and refined, then you circle jerk with the rest of your kind always scared of people finding out you actually dont really enjoy music that much but you know no one can ever know how much you like music and you strive to be like those other losers that orgasm while listening to merzbow, well those people are as scared as you are because music isnt that enjoyable
its all fucking biological, your brain lights up when you learn that someone else enjoys music as much as you pretend to enjoy it so you think its actually possible to achieve that, thats what buddhists call enlightenment and its just as unachievable but they see other people that they think are enlightened and they think it can be done so they go through strenuous efforts to get enlightened (they meditate and starve, you listen to shitty conceptual albums while forcing any emotion that you might feel (or might not feel (or think that you shoould be feeling) at that moment
its all a fucking lie stop trying

>inb4 just because you cant doesnt mean the rest of us can
no you cant unless you are high but you purists think drugs are cheating
you are the most retarded cult out there
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>>71025200
We're talking about enjoyment, not appreciation
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>>71020491
>listening to albums start to finish every time

an unreasonable obsession with structure and order is a symptom of autism
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>>71021722
Using Chance and 3-6 Mafia is the definition of cherry picking you fucking faggot
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>>71026706
>I have autism and can't relate to normal people and their emotions so I can't enjoy music and that upsets me deeply

ftfy
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>>71026748
>no you!
>he explained
nice counter-argument
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>>71021450
I always listen to an album all the way through
>>71022993
This
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>>71026787
sorry I didn't write a wall of text that nobody would read
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>>71026726
You mean like waking up in the morning, getting dressed, eating breakfast and going to work and then working a structured job?
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>>71026814
yes exactly like that congratulations you have singlehandedly debunked functioning society
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>>71026842
All or nothing thinking is a sign of mental illness.
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>>71026706
wtf i love autism now
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>>71026706
[citation needed]
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>>71026850
wow looks like I got #roasted lol
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>>71020558
im not gonna bother listening to something i dont like but if i was autistic i guess i would
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>>71026795
im sorry you have adhd
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>>71026883
A mirror neuron is a neuron that fires both when an animal acts and when the animal observes the same action performed by another. Thus, the neuron "mirrors" the behavior of the other, as though the observer were itself acting. Such neurons have been directly observed in primate species.

http://www.pbs.org/thebuddha/blog/2010/Mar/17/empathy-and-compassion-buddhism-and-neuroscience-a/
https://www.scienceandnonduality.com/to-be-conscious-of-consciousness-mirror-neurons-and-human-freedom/
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>>71026948
Can't be possible because I listen to music no one else does. I haven't observed any one else enjoying it.

Nice try though
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>>71026706
You think you're exposing everyone you think are posers but you're really just projecting your insecurities on everybody else
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>>71026706
Holy fucking shit dude
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>>71026977
you are literally on a music sharing forum nigger
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>>71026989

how would I ever be doing that? what insecurity are you talking about? do you even know what insecurities are?
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>>71027062
Non Sequitur
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>>71020491
I enjoy the format of LPs that are just one long track.
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>>71027071
Making sweeping negative character generalizations about people you don't agree with tends to mean you're guilty of what you're accusing everyone else of doing
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>>71021053
my friend Byron
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>>71027072
literally autism
>inb4 ad hominem

there are buddhist forums out there, its the same thing faggot
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>>71027135
>autism
The lack of the ability to empathize with other people's point of view, as seen here >>71026706

Care to address my argument now?
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>>71023832

Literally never said I can't listen to an album all the way through, I only said I listen to albums instead of playlists.

Reading comprehension is very important.
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>>71020491
if shit sucks dont waste your week on it just pick something else
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>>71027109
I can agree with you people, I like to listen to albums from start to finish but that doesnt mean I dont listen to the songs individually
sometimes I want to listen to idioteque and I dont want to wait for 7 songs or I want to listen to bmsr but I dont have an hour
sometimes I want to listen to in the court of the crimson king or hospice

I listen to what I want and not what I think I should, what I think I should to maintain an "image" because thats the only reason why people would get this upset and autistic
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>>71020605
that's because get to heaven is awful. If you don't like an album after the first 2 tracks you probably won't like it either way
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I fuckin eat whole albums. munched on this one hard af
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>>71027157
if anything im less autistic for agreeing with the bigger part of human population

>Care to address my argument now?
sure, give me one

that you listen to music no one else does? have you heard of hipsters?
you get enjoyment out of the fact of how unaccesible and shitty the music you listen to is, and how no one else listens to it
its like you have the high score on musical taste

its different than what I was saying on my first post, its even more pathetic
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>>71021352
Angel Olsen - My Woman
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>>71027273
>if anything im less autistic for agreeing with the bigger part of human population
[citation needed]
>sure, give me one
See >>71026977
>that you listen to music no one else does? have you heard of hipsters?
No I'm not into jazz or beat poetry, sorry
>you get enjoyment out of the fact of how unaccesible and shitty the music you listen to is,
I never stated what I listened to. Nice try though
>and how no one else listens to it
its like you have the high score on musical taste
No the fact that I haven't observed anyone else listening to it disproves your theory as stated here >>71026948

You are not doing so well.
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>>71027318
>>if anything im less autistic for agreeing with the bigger part of human population
>[citation needed]
>The lack of the ability to empathize with other people's point of view

>>sure, give me one
>See >>71026977
I did and thats not an argument, I never implied there is one way to enjoy music
you are retarded for thinking that was a compelling argument

>>that you listen to music no one else does? have you heard of hipsters?
>No I'm not into jazz or beat poetry, sorry
you really never heard of hipsters? I wasnt calling you one, hipsters do everything they do to separate themselves from the rest of the world, exactly the same thing you do. its no coincidence that the music that you "enjoy" isnt listened by anyone else, if you are the only one that enjoys it then your taste is different and even bad because the rest of the world agrees that they dont like what you listen to

>>you get enjoyment out of the fact of how unaccesible and shitty the music you listen to is,
>I never stated what I listened to. Nice try though
I assumed that was the case because if it was accesible and enjoyable more people would listen to it
it isnt the case? whats the case then?

>>and how no one else listens to it
>its like you have the high score on musical taste
Im not sure if you missed a >, is that a diss or a misspell?

>No the fact that I haven't observed anyone else listening to it disproves your theory as stated here >>71026948 (You)
are you sure? are you really sure?
either you are being salty or you have bad reading comprehension
I never implied there is one way to enjoy music
the way you enjoy music has less to do with you enjoying the music and more to do with how obscure the music is
you are worse than who I was describing in my post

>You are not doing so well.
>pic related
autist
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>>71027525
>>The lack of the ability to empathize with other people's point of view
No, need a citation for the claim that the "bigger part of human population agrees" with you.
>I never implied there is one way to enjoy music
You did. You clearly stated here >>71026706
that everyone is pretending. That would mean there is one way people are enjoying music, and that is falsely. Did you forget what you said?
>I wasnt calling you one
Oh sorry, your "argument" is so full of ad hominems that I made an assumption.
>I wasnt calling you one, hipsters do everything they do to separate themselves from the rest of the world, exactly the same thing you do
Oh I see. In that case this is all not relevant.
>if you are the only one that enjoys it then your taste is different and even bad because the rest of the world agrees that they dont like what you listen to
>I assumed that was the case because if it was accesible and enjoyable
Now you are backpedaling. Do people enjoy music or not? make up your mind
>are you sure?
Yes.
>I never implied there is one way to enjoy music
Read above. You did. If everyone is falsely enjoying music, that is one singular way.
>how obscure the music is
Once again, I never stated what the music is let alone how obscure the music is. nice assumptions though.
>autist
See >>71027157 We already covered that.
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>>71026706
cringed so fucking hard, you're extremely delusional
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When will this album meme die? Its the biggest cancer in music industry, If artist focused on producing great singles instead of a collection of songs for the sake of an album music today would be much better
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>>71027695
>an artist who can only make one or two great songs is better than an artist can make 10 or 12 great songs
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>>71026706
>no one can actually enjoy music and if they say they do then they're just delusional

Wtf I hate music now
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>>71027722

Quality > Quantity

Albums in general priorize quantity
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>>71027765
>Quality > Quantity
You can have both
>Albums in general priorize quantity
How so?
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>>71027630
>>>The lack of the ability to empathize with other people's point of view
>No, need a citation for the claim that the "bigger part of human population agrees" with you.
you tube, a lot of people listen to songs there and they like to listen to them individually instead of listening to the whole album
you are just being a dick because you are angry while im actually saying shit, like for example

>>autist
>See >>71027157 We already covered that.
yes we did

>>I never implied there is one way to enjoy music
>You did. You clearly stated here >>71026706 (You)
I didnt, please point where
Id have to be as delusional as you to say something like "there is one way to do a thing everyone in the world does"
you may not see it but im being rational here, my point is that you love to pretend music gives you orgasms and thats not possible but being a circle jerk, when some one orgasms (or rather pretends to) you get hornier

>that everyone is pretending. That would mean there is one way people are enjoying music, and that is falsely. Did you forget what you said?
no I didnt
also there is no reason to end every argument with a burn, it makes you look dumb and petty. try to care less
I said you are pretending, not everyone. more especifically the people I cited

>>I wasnt calling you one
>Oh sorry, your "argument" is so full of ad hominems that I made an assumption.
you love to say shit in latin dont you, it doesnt make you look smarter

>>I wasnt calling you one, hipsters do everything they do to separate themselves from the rest of the world, exactly the same thing you do
>Oh I see. In that case this is all not relevant.
what do you mean? what is all? im geniuenly asking
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>>71027630

>>if you are the only one that enjoys it then your taste is different and even bad because the rest of the world agrees that they dont like what you listen to
>>I assumed that was the case because if it was accesible and enjoyable
>Now you are backpedaling. Do people enjoy music or not? make up your mind
you are backpedaling, your fallacies take time and distract from the real argument
and if I dont adress them youll get all smug and cancerous
you are like a petty 12 year old that cant handle losing an argument, im not saying this is an argument because you keep being retarded on purpose

>>are you sure?
>Yes.
I can totally picture the kind of person you are

>>I never implied there is one way to enjoy music
>Read above. You did. If everyone is falsely enjoying music, that is one singular way.
read here. I didnt
and the worst part is that I was far from saying that, if you (willingly) misinterpreted my post you would assume I was saying there was no way to enjoy music
thats not what I think, you only have to ask me what I think instead of assuming what I think about a subject I didnt adress

>>how obscure the music is
>Once again, I never stated what the music is let alone how obscure the music is. nice assumptions though.
the music is obscure tho, no one else listens to it so it is obscure. that is a correct assumption

ok, im not assuming anything
im just making questions, why do you enjoy music no one else does? did you make that music? what do you mean by no one else? why doesnt anyone else enjoy that music? what is the music that you enjoy?
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>>71027679
open your eyes sheep
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>>71027778
an album has to have a certain amount of songs, quantity
it doesnt say anything about quality
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>>71026706
lmao
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>>71020629
it depends on how awful it is
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God, no wonder so many people think /mu/ is the most autistic board on 4chan.

No, you don't have to exclusively listen to albums. Yes, if you think an album is a chore to sit through then you can stop listening to it. Music should be enjoyable, it shouldn't be something to waste your time with because you think it makes you a more interesting person to define your taste by some stupid album artwork by some hipster band.

All an album is a collection of songs the artist released at the time. Yes, they may have different themes on the album to differentiate each album, but ultimately an album is literally a collection of songs. Some songs may be good, some may be bad. But you shouldn't have to sit through an album you don't like because, sure, there may be a catchy single here and there that you like, but theres also a cesspit of other pretentious garbage that Pitchfork gave a 10 and you feel inclined to sit through that bullshit because "music is art and albums are the most important things in music"

You should only listen to an album if you actually enjoy atleast 80 percent of it. And guess what? You can skip the other 20 percent if you feel bothered to. Don't fall for the meme that albums are some special defining aspect of music that should be untouched by the listener from start to finish, the artist doesn't want that, the artist just wants you to get as much enjoyment out of the album as possible because, hey, instead of releasing one song that the listener can enjoy, why dont we record a bunch of songs and put them in a bundle so the listener can enjoy various different songs?

The only thing that an album better from another album is how much of it is composed of good music. That is literally it. Nothing else.
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>>71028870

*that makes an
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>>71028870
so much this
fuck you /mu/
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>>71021053
me
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>>71026706
Thanks for the new copypasta bud.
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>>71020491
i'm generally a "SHIT THIS IS CATCHY IM REPEATING IT" then i get into the next track organically then i finish the album.
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>>71021352
Pink season
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>>71028082
The same logic applies to a single - it doesn't say anything about quality
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>>71020562
>>71020723
I see your point but maybe watching a bunch of single episodes from TV shows that have an over-arching plot would be a more accurate comparison? Since a song and a TV episode seems to stand on its own more than a movie scene.
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>>71028870
>God, no wonder so many people think /mu/ is the most autistic board on 4chan
Because our posters write 5 paragraph essays when you trigger them?
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>>71020517
Take notes youngins this is how you make quality bait
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>>71028991
this
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>>71020603
>driving
>not listening to npr
I think playlists are retarded for listening by yourself and people that pride themselves on making them are even more retarded. Good thread OP, our shortened attention spans directly correlates with the increase of listening to singles and playlists. The only playlists I make on Spotify are albums by saving as downloading them for offline. Songs are part of bigger picture.
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>>71027894
>a lot of people listen to songs there and they like to listen to them individually instead of listening to the whole album
Many people also listen to albums.
>Id have to be as delusional
Check
>you love to say shit in latin dont you, it doesnt make you look smarter
also there is no reason to end every argument with a burn, it makes you look dumb and petty. try to care less
>>71028023
>your fallacies
Which ones? name them specifically
>and the worst part is that I was far from saying that, if you (willingly) misinterpreted my post you would assume I was saying there was no way to enjoy music
Nice backpedaling
>the music is obscure tho
Quote me where I said that.
>no one else listens to it so it is obscure
Incorrect. Do you listen to Rockabilly? Probably not, not many people do anymore. But it's not obscure.
>im just making questions
Is English your first language?
>did you make that music?
How is this relevant?
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>>71026706
fuck he got us boyz
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>>71026842
kek
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>>71029361
you know why you are wrong
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>>71029466

>>>71027894 (You)
>>a lot of people listen to songs there and they like to listen to them individually instead of listening to the whole album
>Many people also listen to albums.
you love wasting time pretending to be retarded
more people listen to songs than people who listen to full albums

>>Id have to be as delusional
>Check
so we are both delusional? that cant be right cus im more logic oriented while you waste time with retarded burns cus you dont like losing

>>you love to say shit in latin dont you, it doesnt make you look smarter
>also there is no reason to end every argument with a burn, it makes you look dumb and petty. try to care less
so I do it too, but maybe thats because I want you to feel dumb, you want to feel smart
you are good at shitposting, doesnt mean you are smart

>>and the worst part is that I was far from saying that, if you (willingly) misinterpreted my post you would assume I was saying there was no way to enjoy music
>Nice backpedaling
how can you be this dense, im actually moving this argument foward
im telling you how you are wrong and what fallacious argument you could use if you wanted to be as cancerous and less wrong

>>the music is obscure tho
>Quote me where I said that.
>Can't be possible because I listen to music no one else does

>>no one else listens to it so it is obscure
>Incorrect. Do you listen to Rockabilly? Probably not, not many people do anymore. But it's not obscure.
people listen to Rockabilly then, thats why it isnt obscure

>>im just making questions
>Is English your first language?
no

>>did you make that music?
>How is this relevant?
im curious
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>>>71028023 (You)
>>your fallacies
>Which ones? name them specifically
well played, keep wasting my time
you know I will keep replying
ok
>>71027072
its not non sequitur
>>71027157
if anything im less autistic because the things I replied to that post
>>71027318
>[citation needed]
waste of my time, you want me to think for you
>>that you listen to music no one else does? have you heard of hipsters?
>No I'm not into jazz or beat poetry, sorry
I wasnt calling you a hipster, maybe you just didnt realize but that response is not worth anything. a waste of time
>>you get enjoyment out of the fact of how unaccesible and shitty the music you listen to is,
>I never stated what I listened to. Nice try though
I dont need to know what is the music that you listen to, if its obscure its obscure for a reason
>>and how no one else listens to it
>its like you have the high score on musical taste
>No the fact that I haven't observed anyone else listening to it disproves your theory as stated here >>71026948 (You)
my theory then doesnt apply to you, it isnt disproved
I have another theory for you tho
>No, need a citation for the claim that the "bigger part of human population agrees" with you.
you want me to think for you
>Now you are backpedaling. Do people enjoy music or not? make up your mind
what a waste of fucking time, Do people enjoy music or not? yes
make up your mind, implying I said people dont enjoy music
>Read above. You did. If everyone is falsely enjoying music, that is one singular way.
so before I said no one enjoyed music, but now I said there is one way to enjoy music
I would quote you saying make up your mind but im not that petty
>Once again, I never stated what the music is let alone how obscure the music is. nice assumptions though.
backpedalling
>No, need a citation for the claim that the "bigger part of human population agrees" with you.
you want me to reason for you
>autist
>See >>71027157 We already covered that.
yes we did and what happened?
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>>71021053

Beethoven
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>>71029466
fallacies cont.

>Many people also listen to albums.
yes, so what. thats a fact not an argument
>Nice backpedaling
it isnt

>Quote me where I said that.
I did in my post

>Incorrect. Do you listen to Rockabilly? Probably not, not many people do anymore. But it's not obscure.
not an argument

>Is English your first language?
ad hominem

you are not doing welll
>smuganimeface.jpg
>tips fedora

the only thing you accomplished in these many replies is wasting my time
I could have a more fruitful conversation with a wall
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>>71020525
>Not setting up album playlists for sequences of albums to listen to during an ascended patrician music session
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Severe autism: the thread.
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>>71020558
If the first quarter of an album is trash no need to finish it, you can start a /mu/ thread to see if you missed a hidden gem somehow
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>>71026706
Lol what a faggot
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>>71020491
I can't think of an album in the world worth sitting through the entire way.
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>>71023979
Don't mind the people here, man. This whole site has to shit on people with mental disorders all the time, even when they're not that bad.

I have ADD too but I've been training myself to have a longer attention span. I've been listening to more and more albums lately.
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>>71023979
>>71031535
ADD isn't "real".
the phenomena you experience is real but in reality it has to do with focus.
firstly get off your medication.
secondly, gradually increase the time you focus on something and catch yourself whenever you notice yourself drifting off.
it takes time you've just got to stick with it and when you "fuck up" don't beat yourself up about it if any improvement is good.
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>>71031535
>>71031938
my god you are retarded

>>71031535
listen to whatever you want to, doing something you dont want to do because you think you will juice enjoyment out of it because other people do is retarded
ADD has nothing to do with the things you enjoy, you can spend hours playing vidya while being extremely focused

ADD is real
>the phenomena you experience is real but in reality it has to do with focus.
I have no idea what youre trying to say
>firstly get off your medication.
you dont know how ADD meds work, you use them when you have to study or work, it lasts for a couple hours

>secondly, gradually increase the time you focus on something and catch yourself whenever you notice yourself drifting off.
thats not how ADD works, its not like you suddenly realize you lost an hour watching a butterfly, its that focusing on something you dont enjoy is strenous and stressful at times thats why drawing on the margins of your textbook is so fun and almost "necessesary"

>it takes time you've just got to stick with it and when you "fuck up" don't beat yourself up about it if any improvement is good.
thats actually good advice, getting frustrated is the hardest part
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>>71029553
Since I'm not wrong, I'd love for you to explain
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>>71032080
I think you mixed up your reply chains.

That said, I agree with what you're saying anyway.

The site has a weird conservative, 'anti-psychology/modern science' bent to it.
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>>71028449
What the fuck does that even mean? It's a simple yes or no question
HAVE you ever walked out of a movie. The quality of a movie doesn't change what happened in the past you fucking mongrel.
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>>71029985
>more people listen to songs than people who listen to full albums
What's the ratio? Be sure to use citations to prove your answer.
>so we are both delusional?
Well, you are for sure. But what's my delusion? I seem to be fairly sane
>but maybe thats because I want you to feel dumb
Well that's not very nice. Why would you do that?
>im actually moving this argument foward [sic]
Calling me stupid isn't moving the conversation forward, is it?
>Can't be possible because I listen to music no one else does
Correct, I don't see the words "obscure" there, do you?
>people listen to Rockabilly then
Who? list them. Give me their names.
>im curious
OK then, yes.
>>71030003
>its not non sequitur
Since it did not follow logically, of course it is. Try again.
>if anything im less autistic because the things I replied to that post
Well, show me how you've demonstrated empathy for me? You haven't at all. matter of fact, you ridiculed me for having a different opinion than you.
>waste of my time
If you can't prove it, it's not true. Sorry bro
>I dont need to know what is the music that you listen to know what is the music that you listen to
Brilliant!
>my theory then doesnt apply to you, it isnt disproved
Well, your original claim here >>71026706
was for all people. Since I am one case that goes against your theory, then the theory is disproven. We only need one case to disprove it. Sorry.
>implying I said people dont enjoy music
You said people pretend to, based on copycat behavior. Read your own posts
>I would quote you saying make up your mind but im not that petty
Literally half of all your posts are my quotes
>backpedalling
Show me where I stated what artists I listen to.
>you want me to reason for you
Not a citation. Try again.
>yes we did and what happened?
You continued to act like an autist I suppose
>>71030175
>fallacies cont.
You still have not named a single fallacy.
>wasting my time
You keep saying this while still replying...
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>>71032080
i'm trying to help i don't know why the "mentally ill" get so offended.
>I have no idea what youre trying to say
i know you experience the constant drifting off. i'm saying it has to do with your habits.
>you dont know how ADD meds work, you use them when you have to study or work, it lasts for a couple hours
i do. i'm saying get off of them and work on changing your lack-of-focus habits organically. not saying it's easy but relying on meds aren't good for you in the long run.
>thats not how ADD works, its not like you suddenly realize you lost an hour watching a butterfly, its that focusing on something you dont enjoy is strenous and stressful at times thats why drawing on the margins of your textbook is so fun and almost "necessesary"
as i've said. it's a HABIT. here's a cliche, old habits die hard.
take it slow, a little improvement every day adds up. try to relax, i get that many assholes like to kick people when they're down. but freaking out and wearing your "mental illness" like a badge of honor hurts nobody but yourself.
the moment you realize that this "mental illness" is something you can work on fixing without meds albeit with effort it becomes easier.
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>>71032708
>wearing your "mental illness" like a badge of honor hurts nobody but yourself.
>the moment you realize that this "mental illness" is something you can work on fixing without meds albeit with effort it becomes easier.
This is not how mental illness works.

Wow, fucking go away
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>>71021352
Kid A
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>>71032345
quantity of a single <album
quantity of an album >single

you made 15 tracks, 3 of them are really good

you can release a very succesful single or a meh album
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>>71032849
>quantity of a single <album
>quantity of an album >single
But you just said quality is more important than quality. Which is it? Make up your mind.
>you made 15 tracks, 3 of them are really good
You can also make 15 really good songs, so this is not relevant
>you can release a very succesful single or a meh album
You can also release a very meh single so this is not relevant.

Try a real argument please
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>>71026706
>Non Sequitur
bump
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>>71032764
it is.
you have some problems.
you see a psychologist. they tell you you have a "mental illness" and you need this and that and here's a list of symptoms for your "disease" and it can't be cured. they give you medication to deal with the symptoms.
yea you're good then but wouldn't you rather replace the leaky pipe rather than stuffing it with whatever the fuck that pops out now and again and you have to keep replacing it?

the problem with the psych wormhole is that people get sucked into it like some religion and you won't take any well-meaning advice and you attack anybody who challenges your ideology.

but hey keep taking your meds and viewing the hard but effective solution as an attack on your identity for the rest of your goddamn life i don't give a fuck.
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>>71032613
>more people listen to songs than people who listen to full albums
>What's the ratio? Be sure to use citations to prove your answer.
1000 to 1
I asked around

>so we are both delusional?
>Well, you are for sure. But what's my delusion? I seem to be fairly sane
you have nothing to say yet you keep talking, some parts of your brain might be turned off

>but maybe thats because I want you to feel dumb
>Well that's not very nice. Why would you do that?
im making you a favor, you are too dumb to realize it on your own so im giving you a hand

>im actually moving this argument foward [sic]
>Calling me stupid isn't moving the conversation forward, is it?
it is, once you understand you are dumb you will see how nothing of value has comed out of your mouth (hands rather) so far and then you will have to trust me when I say you are wrong, Ive been explaining why but you cant quite grasp the amount of words I am typing

>Can't be possible because I listen to music no one else does
>Correct, I don't see the words "obscure" there, do you?
I dont see the word retarded when I read your replies but I can safely assume you are based on the power of observation and reasoning

>people listen to Rockabilly then
>Who? list them. Give me their names.
me, a couple of friends, my mom, everyone in canada, Theresa May the current british prime minister

>>its not non sequitur
>Since it did not follow logically, of course it is. Try again.
ok, its not non squitur


>Well, show me how you've demonstrated empathy for me? You haven't at all. matter of fact, you ridiculed me for having a different opinion than you.
im sorry, dumb people drive me nuts

>If you can't prove it, it's not true. Sorry bro
I can try to help you understand the things I said, please point what part you didnt understand
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>>71030873
Animals
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>>71031938
>gradually increase the time you focus on something and catch yourself whenever you notice yourself drifting off.
i dont have add but im going to try this. i can focus heavily on things i enjoy like albums, movies, games, good books (i have autism) but if im not having fun i kind of just ignore it
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>>71033069
>the problem with the psych wormhole is that people get sucked into it like some religion and you won't take any well-meaning advice and you attack anybody who challenges your ideology.
What about a licensed therapist?
>>71033070
>I asked around
Not a citation. Try again
>you have nothing to say yet you keep talking
Not an argument
>Ive been explaining why but you cant quite grasp the amount of words I am typing
Wow I guess not! You'll have to repeat yourself
>me, a couple of friends, my mom, everyone in canada, Theresa May the current british prime minister
Prove it
>im sorry, dumb people drive me nuts
Then how do you live with yourself?
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>>71032613
>Well, your original claim here >>71026706 (You)
was for all people. Since I am one case that goes against your theory, then the theory is disproven. We only need one case to disprove it. Sorry.
no no you got it all wrong, see the red text? if you click it, the site takes you to the comment by that number
some people put it there to reply to that comment

>You said people pretend to, based on copycat behavior. Read your own posts
why dont you read your own post
get rekt lmao
also mirror neurons mirror, you enjoy watching someone enjoy
get better reading comprehension

>Literally half of all your posts are my quotes
non sequitur
I grined while typing that, thanks for that

>Show me where I stated what artists I listen to.
non sequitur
wow I need to learn more latin, this is great

>Not a citation. Try again.
I dont have one but I do have common sense and logical reasoning
I cant help you with that tho, maybe try to keep your mouth shut so you dont waste people's time

>You continued to act like an autist I suppose
oh now you crossed the line
im very offended

>You keep saying this while still replying...
yeah I cant help it, it used to be stressful but now that I dont care its actually pretty fun
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>>71033252
>was for all people. Since I am one case that goes against your theory, then the theory is disproven. We only need one case to disprove it. Sorry.
>no no you got it all wrong, see the red text? if you click it, the site takes you to the comment by that number
>some people put it there to reply to that comment
Not an argument
>also mirror neurons mirror, you enjoy watching someone enjoy
Already addressed that and dispoven. Next.
>non sequitur
How so? My post follows your logically.
>I dont have one
If you can't prove it, it's not true
>im very offended
im making you a favor, you are too dumb to realize it on your own so im giving you a hand
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>>71033133
>Not a citation. Try again
ok, any yt video versus album sales of the same album

>Not an argument
you are right, for once
also, not an argument

>Wow I guess not! You'll have to repeat yourself
im sorry, I dont know simpler words you could understand

>Prove it
call them and ask them

>Then how do you live with yourself?
>SIKE! thats the wrong number!
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>>71033340
>ok, any yt video versus album sales of the same album
Not a citation. Try again
>I dont know simpler words
Obviously
>call them and ask them
>please prove my claim for me!
Not how it works
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>>71033313
>Not an argument
not an argument

>Already addressed that and dispoven. Next.
need a citation

>How so? My post follows your logically.
it doesnt, thats why its non sequitur

>If you can't prove it, it's not true
the sun is hot, but you cant touch it to find out
we know its hot because we used are reasoning skills, you should buy some

>im making you a favor, you are too dumb to realize it on your own so im giving you a hand
yeah? well, you are too dumb to realize you are dumb so im giving you a hand so you realize how dumb you are

>>71033363
>Not a citation. Try again
ok, see pic

>Obviously
Im sorry, I dont speak moronish xD

>please prove my claim for me!
>Not how it works
ok, I already called and they said they did
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>>71033124
well i don't see the point in forcing yourself to focus on things you don't give a shit about it unless it's technical information you could use to better yourself at something you care about.
>>71033133
the problem is that it depends entirely on the therapist. talking helps but most therapists have a poor understanding of the human condition and are sucked into the wormhole themselves and it could hurt more than it helps.
removing yourself from any framework that prescribes an identity to you and looking at what difficulties you're facing would be more helpful. if you know someone who has a good understanding of the human condition organically you'd be better off talking to them.
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>>71033544
>need a citation
See >>71026977
>it doesnt
Why not?
>the sun is hot, but you cant touch it to find out
Well we are able to know the sun is hot based on the flux of energy reaching the Earth and the inverse square law. Recall from the Stellar Properties chapter that the flux is the amount of energy passing through a unit area (e.g., 1 meter2) every second. From the inverse square law of light brightness, you find that the solar flux at the Earth's distance = the Sun's surface flux × (Sun's radius/Earth's distance)2 = 1380 Watts/meter2. Since the Sun's photosphere is approximately a thermal radiator, the flux of energy at its surface = sigma × (the Sun's surface temperature)4, where sigma is the Stefan-Boltzmann constant. Rearranging the equation, the photosphere's temperature = [(solar flux at Earth)/sigma) × (Earth distance/Sun's radius)2]1/4.
>ok, see pic
17.2 million is a lot of album sales. Thanks for proving me right.
>Im sorry, I dont speak moronish xD
But you are so fluent in it!
>I already called and they said they did
Prove it. Post your phone records.
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>>71033677
wow you are very adamant

>need a citation
See >>71026977

I dont understand what you mean, care to explain?

>Why not?
because its non sequitur, do you know what that means?

>Well we are able to know the sun is hot based on the flux of energy reaching the Earth and the inverse square law. Recall from the Stellar Properties chapter that the flux is the amount of energy passing through a unit area (e.g., 1 meter2) every second. From the inverse square law of light brightness, you find that the solar flux at the Earth's distance = the Sun's surface flux × (Sun's radius/Earth's distance)2 = 1380 Watts/meter2. Since the Sun's photosphere is approximately a thermal radiator, the flux of energy at its surface = sigma × (the Sun's surface temperature)4, where sigma is the Stefan-Boltzmann constant. Rearranging the equation, the photosphere's temperature = [(solar flux at Earth)/sigma) × (Earth distance/Sun's radius)2]1/4.
and also because sunlight is warm

>17.2 million is a lot of album sales. Thanks for proving me right.
17.2 million < 77 million views
also, it doesnt say that the people who bought the album always listen to it from start to finish

>Prove it. Post your phone records.
the battery just died
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>>71033781
>I dont understand what you mean, care to explain?
Well it can't be possible because I listen to music no one else does. I haven't observed any one else enjoying it.
>because its non sequitur,
How so?
>77 million views
view =/= sale. Try again
>the battery just died
If you can't prove it, it's not true. Sorry
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>>71021361
Life After Death and All Eyez On Me, literally excruciating, and the reason why I hate both artists.
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>>71033863
>Well it can't be possible because I listen to music no one else does. I haven't observed any one else enjoying it.
that could be it but mirror neurons dont care about your taste in music

>How so?
it does not follow logically from anything previously said

>view =/= sale. Try again
ok
what does sales have to do with this?
more people listened to that song than people bought that album

>If you can't prove it, it's not true. Sorry
no, im sorry
the calls are there but I cant find my charger
you just have to take my word for it
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>>71034121
>it does not follow logically from anything previously said
In what way? I dont think you know and are just stalling
>what does sales have to do with this?
That's what you said.

Also 17/77 ratio is not 1/1000. Try again.
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>>71034180
>In what way? I dont think you know and are just stalling
it just doesnt
I swear im not stalling

>That's what you said.
but it wasnt what I said

>Also 17/77 ratio is not 1/1000. Try again.
ive listened to that song a lot, like a lot
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>>71034303
OK goodbye anon
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>>71020558
I'll finish the album if it's bad or good. I just enjoy the experience of listening to albums.
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>>71034350
HA I WIN
IN YOUR FACE
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>>71020491
Albums have gone down in quality over the years.

Maybe 1% of them are worth listening to the whole way through
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>>71023854
>band's entire recorded output
>Not listening to every second of a band member's lives since their birth
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>>71020753
>>71020792
>movies
>caring about plot and narrative

Plebs.
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>>71034728
Singles have gone down in quality over the years.

Maybe 1% of them are worth listening to the whole way through
>>
But an album is just a collection of singular songs. What's the difference?
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>>71020629
Not if its in a theater, because I payed and went there specifically for the movie. If I'm watching a movie on netflix though and its shit I'll definitely turn it off
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>>71020491
I find myself with some kind of Attention Deficient Disorder when I don't listen to full albums. Sometimes I don't every make it through full songs. Albums are, I guess, a solution to this since I find myself not wanting to skip through tracks, because I know what the next track is gonna be. Instead of hopping around looking for the good songs.
>>71020603
This is the only time I listen to stuff on shuffle
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