/gg/ guitar bass general

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>>70834952
Halfway through day 5 of waiting on this in the mail. Probably will come Wednesday or Thursday.

Paid $1k australian for it. Usually goes for $1600. Blah blah blah you should know the rest by now.

Reporting in for the Viper jokes. Lets hear em.

Oh is this the poorfag thread?

>>70835009
Heres a riddle.

Q. You have shitty taste.

A. Youll have to live with your mistake

if dubs then emmylou harris is the queen of /gg/ and this thread shall reign supreme

first for grestch

>>70835028
Is it lonely in your shitposting general?

>>70835009
thats not an ESP viper, its a shitty 3rd world clone of an ESP viper

The real vipers made in japan are top quality instruments.

>>70835057

maybe not queen of /gg/ friendo, but still a nice singer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX2Lrmy5ZpA

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>>70835089
Well I never said it was an ESP Viper. and I can't afford $2800.

That's a pretty good price though for a 1000 series. An M300 goes for about $900 and an EC-400 series is about the same price I paid.

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>>70835028
Doesn't matter if a guitar is 50 bucks or 50 thousand bucks, it's still just a piece of wood. Anything that's worth a damn is inside you.

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Anyone else into satanic guitar?

https://clyp.it/kfnhmbmn

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>>70835268
True, I rarely see high rollers hating on cheap gear but the reverse is way too common. A nice finish is enough to trigger the average squier user into an autistic rage.

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>>70835309
It's like staring into the universe.

>>70835009
>$1600

HOLY FUCK

i wish i was here if you asked about it before buying, i'd tell you to avoid it

source: have the discontinued burst version with SD pickups

how do i set up a guitar like a pro would?

got a spare squire i'd like to experiment on, so it's nothing bad if i fuck it up.

is there a guide on youtube that shows everything they do?
sure i can tighten screws and truss rods, but something like internal work, neck and fret adjustments?

>>70835309
thats a cool finish, too bad they're overpriced as fuck and have design flaws

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Anyone know what guitar this is?

>>70835218
what are these dollarydoos
they're $899 us on musiciansfriend

>>70835754
A Hipster Special by Garbaggio guitars

>>70835754
http://www.brookmays.com/prod_disp.aspx?itemnum=APACHE2SF&gclid=CMHA3Y7R-tECFYeNswodxwoBQw

>>70835309
>I rarely see high rollers hating on cheap gear but the reverse is way too common


You must not post here but once a decade. Its nothing but hate for the poorfags. Ibanez, esp ltd, pft anything not a gibson or fender gets hated on here.

But when someone points out the design flaws, pricing being obviously inflated, or they can play a cheap guitar better than you can play an expensive one, well, when the shoe is kn the other foot it's nothing but kicking and screaming. Can't handle their own bants.


Makes people that have been around stop coming here and limits the /gg/ to shitposters and 12 year olds.

>>70835790
Nigga don't diss my Sato

>>70835846
reddit is literally better than /gg/

>>70835009
Looks like some abalone obsessed retard forgot the finish carving the body.

>>70835754
i tried to date a jap girl once but im glad it didnt work out because she looks exactly like your picture
but a lot of other girls look like the pic too
see what im getting at
like if i had to pick her up in a train station in japan id have a hard time spotting her even if she was my gf

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Just found this on Ebay. Fucking kek.

>>70835858
>reddit is literally better than /gg/


That is just sad to read.

>>70835883
especially since it's true

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Time to rock boys

>>70835991
>offset
lol you're not fooling anybody

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>>70835997
>responding in less than 30 seconds

how do i git gud?

>>70835991
Are these made in China?

>>70836045
practice

>>70836058
When has a fender been made in china ever

>>70836045
You Just gotta guud fucking cunt

>>70836099
Modern Player Series. This kind of looked like one of those with the black plastic insert on the headstock.

>>70835309
I have 4 guitars, guitars that are practical for me, and I owned a few more beyond them. I love giving life to pawn babies, but some have irreversible problems, be it the previous guy missed a couple things or she took too much damage.

>>70835733
Now that, there, may require a few orders from stewmac for your tools.

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>>70829738

>>70836200
This.

Get a fret rocker, and a radius guage. Soldering iron would help too, for the electronics. Contact cleaner is a good thing to have handy too.

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>>70835009
>emg
>not fishman

>>70836259
>can someone identify this guitar for me

fender telecaster thinline custom, or some knockoff/variation of that

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I just finished recording this, roast me

https://clyp.it/pltx2fnw

>But if it's about the audio quality then don't get too technical because I won't understand you

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>>70836413
Thanks!

>>70836437
good

>>70835733
Look up Daves World of Fun Stuff on youtube, I learned how to set up all my instruments from him. Pretty entertaining videos too.

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>>70836437

Squier CVs worth upgrading for gigging/what to upgrade other than pickups?

>>70836974
sure, if you like tiny frets and a quarter inch of glossy lacquer over every part of the guitar

>>70836974
theyre alright but i found the frets way too small and the neck way too glossy. actually prefer the squier standard series tbf

otherwise just get a proper 6 saddle bridge if you pick a tele, and 500k pots if they dont already have em

>>70837008
like glossy necks and ive been playing vintage guitars prior to this so the frets are fine

>>70837024
also its primarily meant as a relatively cheap alternative so my "good" guitars don't get fucked up or stolen at shows/on tours

>>70836437
>https://clyp.it/pltx2fnw
>Densetsu

Makes me wanna go play osu good shit

>>70836437
I smell shizz

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>>70835218
Unless you play in a touring band or session on big records, the real ESP isn't worth it in my opinion. The 1000 series will serve you well and are pretty much as close as you can get to a real ESP for less then half the cash most of the time. Hell, even the LTD is stage worthy, a whole bunch of musicians use them.

>>70835729
Don't know what year model you had but lots of things have been fixed with the LTD vipers over the years, actually pretty much all LTDs in general. The locking tuner brand has been switched out, the neck dive has been seen to by relocating the strap on the base of the neck joint and the bridge hardware has also seen an increase in quality. The only bad thing I have to say about them is that the nut is a bit shit.Not exactly a hard fix. They're still made in Korea and they are still very high quality instruments that stand up next to the ESP variant. The sub-400 series are also excellent.

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter too much so long as you are getting decent quality hardware. Nowadays, you can walk into a store and spend a couple hundred bucks and walk out with a decent guitar. Quality control has gone through the roof compared to say, the 90s, where as cheap guitar was a cheap guitar.

The law of diminishing returns arc has gotten ridiculous steep over the past 15 years and that's such an awesome thing to see. It means beginners can still get a great guitar for not a lot of money which will in turn encourage them to keep picking up the guitar and sticking to it.

It's a great time to be alive boys.

>>70835773
They hardly ship anything to Australia anymore mate. On top of that, the government's going to be putting GST on everything come June or July or something, so that's gonna kill getting stuff on the cheap from the yanks. Also, not a good idea buying used if you can't go there and test it out yourself to check the condition, in my opinion.

Who /tombrady/ here?

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In about a week I'll be getting first ever guitar with a tremolo.
Specifically it's the Original Edge trem.

What are some things to know and tips and hacks for it?

>>70837663
I stick an empty bullet casing under the trem when I do string changes. An AA battery works too. If you want to jam it and make it behave like a hard tsil, a stack of pennies and a little tape to hold them together works fine in a pinch.

There are plenty of guides to aid in setting the trem right. Isnt too hard.

>>70837328
the locking tuners were switched out to worse tuners, the strap button is still on the back, so the dive won't be fixed(it's the same on mine), and the last two frets are still unusable(imo) and just knocking the neck pickup out of its sweet spot

otherwise, they did improve them by getting rid of those shitty compensated nuts. worst thing they ever did, fuck Earvana
>>70837663
original edge trems are great, nice

>>70837663
It's excellent for throwing at people you don't like.

>>70836045
JustinGuitar™

whats the best guitar vst i can get for cheap or free without pirating

>>70837967
TSE 808 and TSE X50

Reminder that pickup rings are disgusting abominations.

Pickup selector rings even more so. Looking at you, S series.

>>70837993
nice

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>Current basses
Washburn XB105 with a modded bridge. Upgrading pickups then tuners next.
Ibanez GSR 200 got it as just a goofing off guitar to drag around and play on really. Took a cieling fan blade to the headstock and the electronics are falling apart.
>Current amp and pedals
Acoustic B450 MKII- still need to grab the extension speakers for it. Got it because it's loud and flexible.
Behringer BDI21- got it to try out a foot based pre- amp. It does okay at what it does but I know now that I need something with more tone shaping. But it was cheap so.
>Dream guitars
USA Spector XL 5 string and a MM Stingray.
>Dream amp and pedal
I'm pretty okay at this point with my amp. I really want a Darkglass tho. Out of all the DI/Preamps that I've heard this one gives me boners even over the Sans Amp DI, and gets closest to my ideal tone.

r8.

>>70838031
I feel the same way.
There was a time when I really wanted an Ibanez S guitar, but they pickup rings and shit just looked so bad!

>>70838102
i use the b7k for just about everything, I run my pedal train into one and then to FOH for gigs, i used the character series VT DI from Tech 21 more these days though because i'm doing a lot of desert music shit

>>70838187
I'm trying to grab one off the used market but I don't see any so I just assume they're fucking awesome.

>>70838102
repost template pls

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>has pickguard
>use pickup rings anyway

Fucking why? You can just mount them to the pickguard.

>bonus: pearly semen finish

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>>70838281
Here you are friendo.

>>70838365
so you can use tonewood around your pickups

>>70838372
thx señor

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>mfw finding out my friend pated $200 to have his guitar 'relic'd'

>>70834931
how do i get a qt country gf like emmy /gg/

>>70838102
The sansamp is definitely more of a rock pedal than the b7k. I want to get a b7k now that I have an active bass and want to play metal again.

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Mates a few days ago I got an old violin for free but haven't touched since I only play guitar.

Can I safely tune it like a bass so I don't have to learn scales for violin without breaking the strings?

>>70837328
>going to be putting GST on everything
Fuck; this is why I vote LDP

>>70835009
>>70835028
>>70835268
literally dejavu: the thread

>>70839099
The b7k just seems more flexible and hits the right frequencies for my style as a. bassist both clean and driven styles. I'm glad I didn't buy first generation tho. Like 2 months later they dropped the ultra.

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>>70839343
Viper man checkin in. You can expect to see me around here a lot more often. Every single day I will report in with my Viper. Every. Single. Day.

>>70839130
Violin is in G D A E, so tuning down would be your only option without breaking the strings, however the instrument would probably be unplayable.

>>70839475
Enjoy it, man.

I still think your guitar has cancer.

>>70839475
Happy NGD, anon.

Now get the fuck off 4chan and play the fuck out of your new toy.

>>70839475
lol, to be honest I really hope you enjoy it and it comes to you in a timely manner.

>>70836404
>tfw seriously considering Fishman for my next pickups
what's the catch though ? something's gotta be fucky.

>>70836560
more like dave's world of grumpy grandpa rants
not even talking about him setting up shitty bc rich with shoddy parts

>>70839496
>>70839521
Oops. I just realized that pic implies I've received it...
.
.
.

.
when I haven't yet

>>70839568
Go and have a fap, then

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>>70835009
>>70839475

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>All these people constantly shitting on Viper Ausfag
His guitar isn't even nearly as memey as mine.

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>>70839613
>>70839618
shit taste =/= meme
buy yourself some taste next time you're shopping for a new leather fedora

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Apparently Ground Guitar lists Hetfield's Grinch Viper as a 7-string baritone, which it clearly isn't.

>>70839652
didn't they use 7s on St. Anger ?

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>>70839634
You can't deny it's a meme guitar. It's the first thing every kid with money buys at Guitar Center.
Aside from being an A7X fanboy I got it because high end Schecters and particularly Sustainiac models are not something common to find in my country.

>next time you're shopping for a new leather fedora
Fug
>be 13
>Start listening to Avenged
>Friend notices this, says she's gonna find me a hat like Synyster's for my birthday
>Forgets about it and I never got it
>Few years later, fedoras become a meme and are associated with neckbeards
>tfw dodged a bullet

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>>70839662
As far as I know, they just used 6 strings for the most part, but James did use one of these LTD H-307s for Some Kind of Monster. You can see in the documentary they did, most of their stuff was pretty stock, just tuned down.

>>70839698
>It's the first thing every kid with money buys at Guitar Center.
sure, the high end schecter is the first thing metal kids buy
not the shoddy Warlock, the LP special-needs-kid II or the soon to be broken down GIO.
plus who the fuck still listens to a7x

>>70839730
>a7x
Not involved in this convo, but I don't even know what a7x is. So there's your point there.

>>70839130
Don't bother trying
If it's a not-so-good old one, you'll see how shitty it's to tune it properly, have it stay in tune, and be playable.
Not even considering some exotic tuning.

>>70835009
reminder that your guitar looks like shit and has shit pickups

Fender Vintage Noiseless pick ups, y/n?

>>70839907
y

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Im Thinking of ordering a DIY kit of ES-335 for ~200-250€ from Pitbullguitars.com and assembling it myself. Anyone have experiences with DIY guitar kita?

>>70839954
Expect lots of shitty filler and knotholes.

>>70839947
But check out Dimarzio Area 67, Area 61, Area 58 as well for vintage sound without noise

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Typical shitter guitar rehash player

>>70839988
How So? Is there Any on participated?
>Checked

>>70837264
Don't bring those faggot gamer nerds here.

>>70840028
Kit guitars are cheap for a reason. Consider yourself lucky if they manage to drill post holes and whatnot in line at all.

>>70839954
>buying a guitar
That would be your first mistake

>>70839475
LTDs aren't bad guitars but you could not be being a bigger fag about this.

Also you should have got a guitar with passives. Fuck EMGs forever. I played them for a decade of my life and I will never, ever go back.

>>70836437
>tele
Vomit

>>70840057
The guitar obviously isn't mine, retard. I just thought the picture was interesting.

>>70840065
Poor wood should have stayed as a table

>>70840065
I never said it was, dipshit. Why are you getting defensive?

Is there a big difference in sound between a low end Squier and a real mexican Strat? Asking for a friend.

>>70840102
Not MASSIVE but parts definitely

>>70840102
if you need to ask this question then you probably won't notice it

>>70840102

You're paying for the difference in quality of the construction of the instrument, not the sound really. There are YouTube videos out there comparing Squiers to American Standards etc. and it's near impossible to tell them apart in clean tones. Even so, switch out the pick ups and they would sound the same. But the feel of the frets and everything would be much worse on the Squier.

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>>70840054
>I played them for a decade of my life and I will never, ever go back.
Same. That's how good EMGs are. I played Dimarzios best, SDs best, goddamn everything there is in between and nothing comes close to a good EMG.

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>>70840274

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You know what this thread needs? More pics of my Telecaster.

>>70840412
The last this thing needs is more shitposting.

>>70840137
>>70840238
All right, thanks guys!

name literally ANYTHING gayer than a sunburst finish

>>70840799
Two men having sexual intercourse

Every time I tune up my high E string and play it for a bit it goes way out of tune again. I've never had this issue before and I can't tell if it's the string or the tuner.

I'm afraid to keep tuning it at this point, but I'll do so and report back shortly.

>>70840799
skull and dragon inlays

>>70840843
I think the string is stretching. The tuning peg is moving but the pitch isn't increasing.

>>70840859
Fucking string just snapped and cut my hand. Piece of shit string.

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>>70840799

>>70840870
>piece of shit guitarist

>>70840887
>good guitarists don't break strings

>>70840870
>abusing his guitar's strings & tuners
I'm reporting you faggot.
You are the worst.

>>70840899
>breaks string trying to tune it
You dont know what the fuck you're doing. Either learn what you're doing, give up, or quit bitching about things that are entirely your fault.

>>70840843
A shitty tuner will lose its grip. A shitty set up guitar will never stay in tune and a guitar itself will never be fully in tune due to how the fretboard isn't perfect.

>>70840879
Me on the right, haters gonna hate.

>>70840923
Youre confusing intonation with tuning stability

>>70840936
Intonation is part of tuning, tuning stability was also covered in my post.

>>70840922

I've been tuning my guitar every day for years mate, I think I know how to tune it.

The high E string started to give out, it wouldn't go above C# even though the tuner was pulling it tighter. Eventually the string got too stretched out to withstand the tension and broke. I posted because I thought it was rather peculiar.

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When someone says that they need to "upgrade the pots" what pots should it be upgraded to? What companies and 250k or 500k? Will an Orange drop capacitor be helpful too while I'm at it? I wanna upgrade my MiM Strat and Squier Mustang by replacing the electronics before any pickups

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Posting my rig cause it's been a while

Guitars:
Fender Jazzmaster
Ibanez 2350 Les Paul (the actual lawsuit one)
Ibanez PF100 Les Paul
Memphis Les Paul w/ setneck
Squier Jaguar
Squier Bass IV
Silvertone Parlor Acoustic w/ pickup

Amps:
Roland JC-90 Jazz Chorus
Fender Hot Rod Deluxe
Peavey Renown head
Sunn Concert Bass
Unknown cab
2x Ampeg 112 cab

>>70835991
now that is classy, great taste anon

>>70841123
no one cares

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shut up, I'm busy here

>>70841181
WE NEED A MEDIC

>>70841181
f

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>>70841198
>>70841189
it's only an E-series MIJ, not like it's anything really special

>>70841105
Dunno about this specific Squier, but I heard a few people complaining about electronics on Squier being shit and malfunctioning.

As for the MIM Strat:
I rewired the whole thing.
Let's be serious, I don't think you need to fix it if it's not broken.

BUT you can do it if you want to plat around, or want to mod it.
My main reason was to mod it, look into it, & prepare myself before changing pickups.

What I did:

-I was annoyed by the bridge pickup not wired to any tone pot. And the stock ceramic pickup can be pretty ear-piercing.

While considering my options, I found 2 cheap TBX, & some paper in oil (probably snake oil) capas with the values I wanted to try.

TL;DR I first tone button is TBX for the neck
second one is TBX for middle and bridge

- Since I was messing around :
I added a push pull on the volume pot: it adds bridge pickup to every position
it makes a 7 way strat if I count properly.

I ended putting some solderless thingy for my pickups, and was ready to buy new pickups

>>70841181
You monster.
Why would you do that

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This is the best guitar shape

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>>70841272
Thing with 1980s MIJ guitars is the neck and body and fretwork are brilliant but the pickups are complete shit. I've owned four, this is my second E-series and they really need a lot of chopping about to be really good guitars. Plus the System 1 bridge is just unusable shit, hence the retrofitted Kahler which is the only half-decent bridge that will fit onto the weird Japanese body rout.

The new routing is for an internal Roland GK pickup.

How do people break their fucking strings? This hasn't happened to me in years and only then because I used to wrap my strings improperly. Are you fags literally playing them until they rust to bits?

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>>70841395
you actually change your strings before they break?

>>70841395
thrashing away on a 9 to 42 set is the limit of some people's talent

>>70841336
Alright
I don't like the bridge though. But it looks like it's your only choice.

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>>70841480
Original System 1 bridge, utter junk. Impossible to restring, doesn't stay in tune

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>>70841585
And there's no routing on the back for a proper trem system so it's got to be a Kahler top-mount.

>>70840037
Completely agree. I use to hang with them. Then they became highly political and extreme left wing around 2012. Most the older members wint post anymore because they let shawn phase harass everyone. If you have a conservative opinion, they will make a thread weekly demanding you get banned.

Also fuck the entire vgm cover groups from Austin TX. Faggots copy half your set list then talk crap to get your band from playing shows in your own city.

Only 2 bands worth a fuck were the advantage and the neskimos. Minibosses suck. Metroid metal sucks. Armcannon sucks. Bit brigade sucks fat ones.

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>>70841594
And don't get me started on the original locknut. Push the lever up to grip the strings and the whole thing goes sharp. That got thrown out too.

>>70841594
I upgraded my MIM Strat entirely, and I'm glad it was so easy to do. No need to route anything. Direct drop in.

Still, now that I have my dream gigging guitar I feel pleased yet kinda empty and want to work on something else.
And yet, everytime I feel like I'm going to GAS, I don't because I remember how nice my MIM feels.

Though I'll probably make a partcaster or maybe some kind of telecaster one day if something so good yet so cheap presents itself in front of me. (and I can access it's not fake)

is there a difference begween a mim neck and a mia neck?

>>70840799

tobacco burst finish

>>70841769
one's made in mexico and the other one's made in asia

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>>70841724
Best upgrade I've found for an MIM Strat is the Wilkinson bridge, fitted one on my GC-1 Strat a while back. Much prefer the solid steel saddles to the crappy vintage bent ones.

>>70841769
First of all, there are different MIA neck
But yes, slightly.
One is supposed to have better finish (roll the edges, fret leveled a bit better)
String spacing is different, but it's more related to nut and bridge
22 frets

>>70841815
I have a wilkinson as well, it's good and I'll probably keep it forever.
For the price, it does wonders.
But I'm not completely convinced.
DESU, the strings don't go deep enough.
And I believe the block is not really the best out there.
But again, can't be picky when you see the price and the job is done properly.

>>70840412
fuck that's beautiful

This whole thread is amateurs and beginners. Whenever somone competent shows up they get shitposted into oblivion, because all of you are intimitiated by people that can actually play.

what is the tin-foil like cover on the back of pickguards, what does it do, and if I want to switch pickguards does the new guard need it?

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>>70841889
don't worry jesse, mom will go buy you some tendies soon

>>70841923
Aluminium shielding to reduce noise, hum and radio interference.

Anyone have a quick trick to figuring out what key a song is written in? I know it's a shit question but I'm trying to take simple songs and figure certain shit out by ear.

>>70841815
>>70841858
And changing my nut was probably my favourite upgrade.
And the comfiest was the locking tuners.
The most interesting(as in fun to mess around) was 7way mod + TBX

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I finally got all the gear i want and I don't know what to do. It feels weird not saving up for guitar stuff.

I tried to do some random improvisation

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1HSedFYQ2np

What does /gg/ think, how can I improve?

>>70841924
>jesse
>competent
If that's what you call a good player then you just proved my point

>>70841954
and most people don't realize that aluminium shielding does absolutely nothing unless it's connected to ground.

>>70841995
Try using it and writing cool shit

>>70841954
thank you

>>70842009
wait so are you saying that my new pickguard will not need the shielding?

>>70841872
1987 MIJ 72 RI
Seymour Duncans, Schaller tuners, Wilkinson compensated bridge
fingerboard planed from 7.25 inch radius to 9.5, massive stainless steel frets installed

>>70841995
Sell it all for stuff that doesnt suck

>>70842014
I do me and my friend are about half done recording an album we wrote out in advanced

>>70842032
Any pickguard with metal foil needs to be connected to a ground point or it provides no screening

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLmnuNhO-Pk

>>70842067
ok thank you for explaining.

what's a budget for a decent guitar and amp?
like a mexican or american strat and a good amp for home use
i have no idea about amp prices

>>70842151
if only there were some way to find out on the internet what guitars and amps cost

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>>70842178
hmm yeah,,, maybe something like a guitar forum... hmmmmmm...

>>70842185
>image.jpg
gee, it sure is hard to find a fucking guitar store outside

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Early rock guitar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3FNLnFg6Ck

This song has the first instance of purposely recorded distortion. It was recorded in 1949. Generally Rocket 88 by Ike Turner is regarded as the first rock and roll song, this one not only predates Rocket 88, it also has a much more straight 'rock and roll' rhythm than Rocket 88, which has more of a lazy shuffle to it.

Other early distortion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAqTrbuxCRI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDQskReNjbw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ftf5ucC2_oQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Il7i8KkKVM

First use of Fuzz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAJQ415_TgY

1960, couple months before Grady Martin on Don't Worry. The fuzz in Go On Home was created by an actual circuit that an engineer at the radio station/studio created. Don't Worry is rumored to have that fine fuzztone from a blown transformer in the recording console and not from an actual purposed fuzz circuit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2WBBcH6OPU

Fuzz became a 'thing' in country music first after Don't Worry and started showing up on more stuff.

The first commercial effects pedal was the DeArmond Trem Trol 800 in 1948! Year before leos Telecaster prototypes...must have been for lap steels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggtIvwKDtDQ

First instance of delay/echo seems to be on the Sun albums that came to be prerequisite in rockabilly, made by linking two Ampex 300 recording units.

Scotty Moore later had an amp made for him named an Echosonic that had a tape delay unit stuffed in it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dMtNQtVKoA

>>70842151
If you are on a budget, get a Mexican one. I say that as the owner of an American Standard, it is great but honestly having played a few of the new MIM ones there really isn't that much difference. As for amps, depend what sort of sound you are going for. I use a Vox AC15 with a couple of pedals and that wasn't too expensive, easily loud enough for gigging and sounds good at low volume too.

>>70842262
>first instance of purposely recorded distortion

Might be the first deliberately distorted guitar but Leon Termen used distortion in the Theremin in 1920 to clip the sine wave output to add more harmonic content to the otherwise boring sound.

>>70840412
binding never looks good on a tele

>>70838365
what guitar are this

>>70842263
nice one,
not really on a budget but just wanted an idea of what the standard is.

>>70839475
that guitar looks like a buttrock machine

>>70839475
every single day we'll tell you your guitar is a piece of plywood chinese shit

>>70840102
put a good nut on a squier and it'll feel as good or better

>>70840412
>double bound tele


what model pls

>>70842691
see
>>70842037

>>70842733
except I meant 62 RI

>>70842678
how can you people be so delusional?

>pedal boards

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>>70838102

>>70842851
maybe it's a nut made from hand-selected toneplastic

>>70842037
>having to do all that to make a guitar playable
Should have bought a gibson, you literally only need the guitar

>>70842943
I bought it in 1987, I had very little idea about what I wanted from a guitar back then.It's superb now though. Plays and sounds the way people who've never played a vintage guitar image a vintage guitar plays and sounds.

>>70842943
I'd like to see how an 87 gibson plays without a setup. Find me one where the headstock never snapped off and I'll give it a shot.

>>70842997
>being this much of a lazy basement dweller
Next you're going to tell me to pick up your fast food as well

>>70843021
not the guy you're talking to but if you're going past a McD then I could sure use a Big Mac and fries

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>>70842943
>Should have bought a gibson, you literally only need the guitar

You will need a plate and some screws as well.

>>70843057
DOES THAT HELP THE SUSTAIN?

>>70843021
>Next you're going to tell me to pick up your fast food as well

If you do such a swell job at getting food as you do finding a gibson without a snapped headstock, we will all starve honey.

>>70842997
Pretty well, my Dad has had his studio since 1990 and it hasn't been to a tech since he bought it. Been gigged occasionally, and plays and sounds great. Headstock is fine too.

You need to stop believing everything you read on the internet - if you look after your guitar and learn how to adjust it yourself you will get a lot of mileage out of it. And don't drop the fucking thing, it isn't hard.

>>70843021
can you get me a McChicken? For me, they are the best fast food sandwich to eat while playing guitar.

>>70843041
I could sure use a blowjob.

>>70843057
Taken directly from the ed roman website. Not a problem if you take care of your shit, put your toys up when you're done playing with them.

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>>70843069
If it were brass, maybe. Helps keep the headstock from flying off into a wall though.

>>70840799
take it back :( i got it when i was 12

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>>70843074
English as a second language?

>>70843101
Thing with headstock breaks is they only break once. A good headstock glue repair is actually stronger than the wood it's holding together. Plus it's such a fucking stupid way to break your guitar, you generally only do it once then you learn to be more carful.

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>>70843093
Just googled gibson headstock and have millions of pictures kike that. Or like this.

Dont have to drop it, scarf joint gives out because the angle puts more tension on the headstock than the fretboard. Theyll break on a stand or in a case.

>>70843083
>eating and playing
How fat are you? I bet you have greasy finger prints all over your guitar.

>>70843140
I only weigh 294. I'm 7'2.

>>70843131
>Plus it's such a fucking stupid way to break your guitar, you generally only do it once then you learn to be more carful.
You still can't deny it's a design flaw, I've dropped my chink piece of shit on its headstock and the only thing that gave out was the nut.

>>70843133
>scarf joint
Lol, keep parroting the memesters.

>>70843133
>Theyll break on a stand or in a case.
That might be the stupidest thing I have ever read on here. Yes, they are prone to breaking if you drop them / hit the headstock off something, but they don't just randomly break out of nowhere without being touched.

>>70843155
It could be better designed, this is the guy who did some work on one of my Teles a while back, check the last pic ...
http://www.jacksinstrumentservices.com/why-do-les-paul-headstocks-break.html

>>70843149
Jesus christ, youre andre the giant without muscles

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>>70843131
>Thing with headstock breaks is they only break once. A good headstock glue repair is actually stronger than the wood it's holding together. Plus it's such a fucking stupid way to break your guitar, you generally only do it once then you learn to be more carful.

Ive seen too many dead gibsons to buy that load of shit. Just like the old charvels, they develope cracks and split. The charvel typically split at the low E string, as Ive noticed during my searches for one without damage. Again the angle plays more to it than any impacts will. Its a design flaw that some companies have tried to correct. Adding more wood just causes it to delay and ruins the neck profile.


Hahaha pva glue is stronger than wood my ass.

>>70843131
>Thing with headstock breaks is they only break once

We have a poster who snapped his neck for the third time the other week. Where are you anon?

>>70843191
>my opinions are fact: 1 anon tries to school everyone with uneducated claims
This is the best movie ive seen this year.

>>70843173
Nope. They just split and bust off. No drops, no smacks, no whacks. Wood just cracks.

In sure your gibby will be in for repairs sooner or later.

>>70843210
Damn son, some people just never learn.

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>>70843210
>Where are you anon?

The manlet gibson manchildren ran him off for posting that. Guess buyers remorse is a real thing, gotta defend that overpriced guitar.

You clowns are to easy to rile up. Thanks for the lulz, i gotta get back to work.

>>70843191
Conversely, I see a lot of Strats and Teles with cracks around the neck pocket on the body. Now, every ebay seller says

>it's just a finish crack, doesn't go through to the wood

.. .but I've never felt inclined to buy any guitar with neck pocket cracks. To me, that means the guitar's been thrown about too much. And I doubt it's possible to crack a flexible poly finish without damaging the wood under it.

How often have you guys dropped your guitars? Only time one of mine took a knock was when someone else was borrowing it - lent it against the amp and then tripped over the cord. I have never personally dropped a guitar

>>70843291
Dropped my strat once, but it didn't get any scratches or dents at all

>>70843291
Actually dropped to the floor, never. But they've all got bangs and dents in the finish, apart from the newest one which I haven't had chance to gig with yet.

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>>70843269
yeah, this shit you see all the time, that's a definite NO SALE thank you very much

>>70843269
Actually this. Fender is pretty bad for neck pocket cracks. Ibanez too until around 2005 when they changed a few processes for body construction.

What it really is, the wood shrinks at a different rate for the neck and body, this causes the cracks there. Same how the frets spur out after time due to wood shrinkage. This doesnt really bother the guitar and wont just snap off like a gibson headstock, but do weaken the body and can split over time or due to impact or pressure or just age.

>>70843291
Just once. Has a crack on the bottom of the body but it'll hold. I was moving into a new place and I dropped it as when I was moving around boxes.

>>70843291
Dropped it once on the headstock, knocked it countless times when carrying it, fell a couple times with the fretboard facing the ground.
Surprisingly, it doesn't have really any big dent or finish crack.

>>70843291
Once. Only once. It was an epiphone. I leaned it against a wall next to the stage for a second while i unkinked a cable. Bottom slipped out, cracked the headstock clean off. That was 10 years ago, never happened again

>>70843291
My dad knocked one of mine over on the stand when he came to visit. No damage luckily. I tend to keep my stuff in a case or bag, or on a stand out of the way.

My pal lent his charvel out and the dude whacked the headstock against a mic stand, cracked it, then took it off and tossed it behind the stage. Its still fucked up and he hasnt bothered to let me fix it, or even sell it to me lol

>>70843291
The closest I got was my guitar strap getting weaker and the guitar slipping out but I've always caught it.

On that note, anyone have a decent reliable guitar strap they could recommend?

>>70843385
>On that note, anyone have a decent reliable guitar strap they could recommend?
Strap locks - dead easy to install and work wonders. I use the normal Fender straps on my guitars, and a padded leather one on my non weight relieved Les Paul

>>70843414
Thanks for the start. I'll check em out

>>70843414
not being an uncoordinated fat-handed autistic twat helps too

>>70843385
Dimarzio clip lock, take the strap buttons off and it bolts to the guitar. I have 2 that are really old i still trust 100%

Laughing SO HARD at Gibson right now

>>70843485
I have some Dimarzio quick release ones. Work well, but the strap is kind of short but doesnt adjust too short due to the buckles adding a couple inches on each side.

modding / setting up guitars is more fun than playing them

>>70843493
??
I don't understand why anyone would risk gigging an expensive guitar without strap locks

>>70843542
>/gg/
>gigging

>>70843534
Agreed. Effects and amps too, modding and building

>>70843558
Once you overcome your natural fear of electrocution from 500V DC, modding amps is great fun.

>>70841769
MIA necks are baseball bats

>>70843602
Americas pastime. Theyre made for sausage fingers

>>70843602
Depends which model, my MIA standard strat (2004 i think) has a pretty skinny neck. Friend has a MIA Deluxe strat and it has a tiny neck

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Do any of you lads wear earplugs while playing at home? I get mad tinnitus from just playing around with my electric & shitty amp.

>>70843686
Then lower the volume you cunt

>>70843686
I'm really lucky to have avoided tinnitus from playing so loud for so long. Most of the musos my age that I know and play with complain about constant whistling or clanging sounds in their heads. That'd drive me fucking insane.

>>70841105
the further up you go in pot value, GENERALLY it brings more brightness but it definitely brings more output. if your guitar is too dark no matter what, just put a 1meg pot set in it

>>70841336
>rollers on the bridge

my nigga

got a big pain in my ring finger from barring with it

thought it would be gone in a week but it's been lingering for a while now

literally too painful to play lmao

>>70843686
I do sometimes. Mostly because I gig a lot and when I'm at home I want it to be silent to rest. But my amp is loud so either I go out of the room or play with some.
Though when I don't gig for a certain period, I can do without.
A good master volume/volume pedal helps a lot with big tube amps

>>70843630
>large necks
>made for sausage fingers

?

>>70841105
The best way to mod your tone controls is to completely disconnect them.

>>70842067
>Daves world

this guy is my shit

so comfy, and he's pretty good at setups for a guy that doesn't do it for a living

>>70843906
Yeah, Davey talks a lot of sense about setting up guitars. I learned how to do truss rod adjustments from watching his videos, just get a capo and a feeler gauge and you're sorted.

>>70841105
>Orange drop capacitor

http://www.netarhia.com/capacitor-test-polyester-film-vs-paper-in-oil-pio-in-guitar-tone-circuit.html

>>70843906
He's my favorite youtube guitar guy.

>>70843951
>>70842067
speaking of shielding, if you guys are ever hurting for $ this is the best way to go for shielding cavities for cheap

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Nashua-Tape-1-89-in-x-50-yd-322-Multi-Purpose-HVAC-Foil-Tape-1207792/100030120

it is aluminum yes, and it will not solder well, but if it's for a cavity you can use brads/staples/screws to connect your ground to it so you don't have to worry about soldering it

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>>70844015
I use one of these, solder tag screwed into the wood through the tape then soldered onto a ground point like the back of the volume pot

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>>70834931

Question guys, what picks do you use for shredding?

I've only recently got into trying to play solos, I'm originally a classical guitarist. I'm finding that shredding hard is wearing down my picks like nobody's business

My mate swears by Jazz IIIs for shredding but I've never picked them up because I've been an airy-fairy chords guy and hated the thickness of them, but are they good for shredding? I feel like I do need a weightier pick that can withstand shredding more, without wearing the fuck out

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>>70844083
>what picks do you use for shredding

>>70844083
jazz 3s but the XL model.

>>70844083
>classical guitarist
>using a pick for chords
>shredding 30 after the fad is over
???
also ultex 2.0 mm jazz IIIs or bust

>>70844083
I use jazz iiis for everything. sometimes sweeping but they just feel the least "clunky"

>>70844083
You dont need a pick to djent, they play everything legato anyways. Tap, pull off, hammer on, jack off

>>70844083
honestly, I use a plexstrum meme picks and their fucking phenomenal

i use the mid tech spade 9mm

>>70844199
>staccato : the genre is based around legato

>>70844104
I realise that I said the word shredding about a billion times in that post

Good word though

>>70844109
Ah I see, same thickness but bigger size, yeah that was another thing that I never liked about Jazz IIIs, very small, but I get you now. Thanks.

>>70844138
>classical guitarist
>using a pick for chords
Classical guitar is what I originally learned then I picked up an electric (and acoustic) for playing in bands and stuff, but I never learned how to play lead, basically. Whereas now I am trying to learn solos and stuff. Smashing Pumpkins, Metallica etc.

>shredding 30 after the fad is over
I assume that's meant to say 'years'

Never too late to shred my friend \m/

>>70844157
Small ones or XL ones?

>>70844199
>djent
Haven't heard of it
I'm just talking about playing pick-heavy lead/solo stuff

>>70844212
Just had a look. T H I C C af.
Not sure if I'm ready for that level of thiccness yet

Best single cutaway acoustic between $500 and $1000? I was looking at Seagull guitars, which are at the very end of that spectrum.

>>70844286
>Never too late to shred my friend \m/
now that's cringy.

also smashing pumpkins and metallica solos aren't shred

>>70844286
normal. the whole reason i like them is because they're small

>>70844300

I also want to avoid Taylor because I've heard their bridges tend to crack based on the way they cut at the grain.

>>70844305
I wasn't using the word in a very specific sense

Apologies if I'm using it too liberally

But SP / Metallica is the sort of stuff I mean right now. As I said I'm only just now trying to seriously get into playing lead stuff as opposed to rhythm / chords / finger picking stuff I've played before

>>70844286
their thinner models are like 3mm bigger than most picks but it's mostly the size/shape/rigidity that i like, i was having cramps above my thumb on the inside of my palm from using regular picks and they helped a bunch

they're really expensive though, i don't care about the handcrafted shit, i want someone to make a pick that size for cheaper

>>70844325

The Taylor 114ce does look pretty nice though... Especially with the walnut and sitka spruce.

>>70844325
their bridges crack less because of the cut, and more because they make them in the worst fucking place to make guitars in the U.S

>>70844315
Fair enough. I think I might get XLs if I get some though, I've tried a small Jazz III before and it just feels too small, like it's gonna slip out of my hands

>>70844376
i traded half a beer for a jazz 3 with a grip on it. That might be something to look into. i still use it now, 5 years later haha.

never feel like i'm going to lose it. Bigger plectrums just feel clunky to me now.

>>70844373

What, because of the humidity in San Diego? I suppose. Probably wouldn't fare too well in the desert, which is where I am.

>>70843686
not at home because i use a practice amp, but anytime im jamming i wear those musician-desined earbuds that are like earplugs but let some sound in so you get neutral dampening

tfw too lazy for jazz

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>>70844340
You're talking about the really thick ones right, those Plexstrum ones?

Fair enough. As I say I don't wanna go that thick, I think a Jazz III should suit me because they're very rigid

Although at the moment I'm using a 1.5mm pick which is actually thicker than a 1.38mm Jazz III. To be fair the 1.5mm isn't wearing out as fast as the 1.2mm and 1.0mm that I'm also using a bit, but still, I just want something that is sturdier and withstands heavy picking better without wearing out.

>>70844396
I just found a 'max grip' variant with a grippy texture, is that what you mean?

And it's really lasted 5 years? Is that with heavy picking? I guess resistance to wearing down is the main thing I'm looking for

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>>70844533
yep. needs a clean but it's held up great. I'm a heavy picker with riffs but more delicate with lead. I have 4 or 5 jazz 3s somewhere but this is the one i use every day.

I've not noticed any decline in usability

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>>70843133
thats not a scarf joint

this is a scarf joint

>>70843324
Theres no way the body is cracking there, thats just the paint.

>>70843133
Dave Catching broke an incredibly rare 1 of 5 Les Paul DC after 30 years of tossing it around on stage by leaning it against an amp and having it slip over and fall

Gibsons headstock tilt does nothing but make their guitars easier to break, absolutely nothing

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fuck picks, post amps

>>70843133
>scarf joint
the joint used to attach a headstock at an angle on a guitar neck is not a scarf joint. Furthermore, solid joinery is stronger than the wood around it. It's the short grain in a one-piece angled heastock that gives out; joined headstocks are stronger.

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>>70844751
putting money aside for a mesa or engl cab with v30s

sorry for shitty image

tfw too intelligent for rock

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>>70844751
I don't have a non-potato quality camera to take a picture of it so take this stock photo instead.

>>70844735
Having sold and repaired guitars for 12 years. I have had to return so many gibsons in the first week from broken nuts and headstocks. Who needs commission anyway right.

Its a fragile design, and the string tension decimates the nut and headstock.

>>70844640
Scarf joints give out on the gibsons as well. They break above the nut typically but also below the nut around the scarf joint as well. Just a bad design point that didnt work like they theorized for tining stability, the angle plus the short area of pull with high tension cause breakages. Of course they cant change anything due to tradition so they pass the cost of returns and broken guitars off to the consumer.

Eventually, you experience poor quality and bad service from any company and lose that brand loyalty. I like a gibson, but they do have issues, which keeps me employed fortunately.

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I also own 2 acoustic guitars and a Uku but I don't use them as much as my electric guitars.

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>>70844640
Gibson has a reversed scarf joint.

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>>70844751

>>70844897
I said meh regarding Amps because I plug my pod directly into the PA system when I'm live. However if anyone has suggestions of nice amps with a really neutral sound, tell me.

>>70844897
>Grill
Lol ok

>>70844897
>female
>ukumeme
laisse moi deviner, tu prends plus de saucisse qu'un barbecue le dimanche apres la petanque ?

>>70845045
Si tu insinues que je pécho plus que toi, oui certainement.

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>>70845045
>barbecue
Only word that matters

>>70845073
ca par alors, tu m'en verras jaloux, j'adorerais avoir l'entrejambes qui ressemble a un kebab

french is a useless language that needs to be extinct

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>>70845122
Mon entrejambe se porte bien, comment va ton estime de soi? Un jour tu t'en sortiras, peut-être vers ton 14ème anniv'

>>70845181
pic related

>>70845199
nom d'une pipe, mince alors, c'est vrai que mon estime est au plus bas, c'est moi qui suis en train de me defendre d'etre une salope.

>>70845231
>salope
kek, et après tu vas me faire quoi? l'analogie de la clé et des serrures? retourne sur jvc

>>70845318
putain, j'aurais pense qu'avec mouloud qui t'encule tous les deux jours, t'aurais moins mal au cul que ca en te faisant traiter de salope

>>70834931
Is learning guitar useful?, it seems like an overused instrument i want to lear the accordion because it is an anti normie instument but practically all of the muic i like uses the electric guitar

>>70845361
C'est plus risible qu'énervant je t'assure, j'en ai un peu rien à foutre de ton opinion sur ma vie sexuelle en revanche, ton opinion sur le ukulele m'intéresse, pourquoi cette réaction?

>>70845463
fuck off

>>70845463
So you just want to be a contrarian? Don't be a faggot an learn to play an instrument you like the sound of. You could also learn the accordion because it sounds great sometimes.

>>70845468
>j'en ai rien a foutre mais ca fait 5 posts que je me defend

>>70845520
>j'évite la question intéressante parce qu'en fait j'avais juste envie d'insulter une gonzesse

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>>70845537
Il t'en a fallut du temps pour comprendre, j'espere que t'es plus reactive que ca quand tu joue

>>70845463
fuck you

>overused
kys

>>70845568
僕の右手を知りませんか?
行方不明になりました
指名手配のモンタージュ 街中に配るよ

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>>70845639
Attention le japonais, oooh, sapristi.
Tu compte cocher plus de cliches de la pute alternative ?

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>>70845568
>>70845689

>Je faisais seulement semblant d'être attardé!

Bravo XDptdr koman tu ma trolé bro, upvote

Ah et tu t'adresses à la mauvaise personne, c'est gênant.

>>70845639

日本人はムーンルーンを使ってはいけません。
私は悪い翻訳者を使用しています

>>70843133
>Theyll break on a stand or in a case.
no they won't
>>70843173
>That might be the stupidest thing I have ever read on here.
agreed