Will we see a new wave of politically motivated edgy pop punk

>Will we see a new wave of ... punk?

no

>>70812882
This. Punk is dead. But it lasted 25 years longer than it should have anyways

>>70812849
I had a dream about an alt right pop punk boyband that targeted pre teens with nazi propaganda.

>>70812937
https://youtu.be/8zvn2zz_lIk
close enough

>>70812849
I've been thinking of starting a minarchist punk band. It's basically the least popular form of government imaginable among young people. It's socially conservative and fiscally libertarian. To put it simply, whatever Bernie Sanders says, minarchists believe the exact opposite.

Who's looking forwards to Lada Gaga going on an Anti-Trump rant at the Superb Owl, and getting B(ooed)TFO?

>>70813198
I totally forgot the Super Bowl is tomorrow. I think it's the first one I won't even be watching.

Not punk, but there's a song called Fuck Donald Trump. Also Eminem just got political in Big Sean's song.

Basically celebrities and musicians are going to be even worse than the Bush era.

>>70812849
>>70812882
>Will we see a new wave of politically motivated edgy [music] aimed at teenagers?
Yes.

Difference is Bush was actually an asshole and a monster. A war sold on lies, witholding Saudi involvement in the bloodiest attack on American soil, putting America into a state of emergency and perpetual war that is literally still happening 16 years later.

He killed the 90's and the happiness associated with it. The world is forever darker due to that monster and his associates.

>>70812849

Fucking God I hope not

>>70813507
this but unironically
if bush wasn't elected, the towers would still be up and sweden would still be white

>>70813316

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/hip-hop/7677771/hackers-force-radio-stations-across-country-yg-fuck-donald-trump

>>70813507
Iran might finally become a thing and super 9/11 part two electric boogaloo is just around the corner

they even unearthed a dead guy for an anti-trump compilation. wonder how jason molina would feel.

http://consequenceofsound.net/2017/01/our-first-100-days-continues-with-jason-molina-outtake-royko-listen/

>>70813653
>super 9/11 part two electric boogaloo
who cares, shit happens every week

>>70813144
Songs about respecting the SHIT out of cops. Vol. 1

>>70813653
That would be far more conventional, we would be facing a large war not terrorist attacks. That being said, yeah I wouldn't exactly be excited about a war with Iran.

>>70812849
Isn't Gen Z more redpilled than what came before?

>>70813144
Where can I read more about this movement? Sounds like top keks.

>>70813760
I hope so, I'm 25 so I don't have much experience with them.

>>70813779
It's not much of a movement. There's a Wikipedia page, but as it says, there's multiple types of Minarchy.

>>70813779
>>70813838
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minarchism

>>70813848
lets get edgyer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National-anarchism

>>70813760
>>70813760
From what I"ve seen they post nudes online to celebrate turning 18 so I"m going to have to say that's a likely no.

>>70814056
>national anarchism
u focking wot

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>>70813779
It's trash for chubby bowtie wearing american dipshits who took an economics 101 class. Check out National Bolshevism if you want some juicy memes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd6U26XSdG0

>>70813760
I think they just accept authoritarianism more since theyre raised by smartphones and tablets and have no real life experience to judge from.

>>70812849
Probably. I owned that CD BTW. Possibly the first music purchase I ever made on my own.

>>70812849
Rock is dead, rap against Trump will be a thing though.

>>70813144
Minarchism isn't socially conservative. Minarchism dictates the bare minimum viable government, whereas conservatism dictates using government to enforce traditional morality.

>>70813824
punchable desu

>>70813760
>grow up around minorities
>gay people are now not a big deal
Don't hold your breathe for skinhead ankle biters. You're like the people who thought Reagan and Bush would make being conservative "hip".

closest thing to punk is grime
but grime culture died years ago and now it's basically a mainstream genre impersonating that old culture

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>tfw being a moderate in a world that slowly falls into chaos

>>70813760
Yet to be determined. 2017 could be our 1968 or even 1917. But things could also get much weirder. Mechanisms of social control are growing more sophisticated, hypermedia, neurochemicals. We may live to see a world war, concentration camps, religious fanticism, robot uprisings, brave new utopian projects, you may end up before the firing squad yourself. Throughout history, violent unpredictable change has been the norm. We grew up during a world historical lull but things are getting interesting again.

>>70813760
Gen Z is a huge meme. They'll be more indoctrinated and fucked over more than previous generations by the time they're adults.

>>70813507
Bush was incompetent. Trump is very cognizant of the shady shit he has done and will do. Bannon might be his Cheney figure though.

>>70814418
I believe in a more conservative version, where morality is enforced, but there are next to no social programs.

>>70814527
You sound like a cartoon character.

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>>70814527
>not knowing that the perfect mix is Sweden's social welfare system but with Japan's foreign policy.

>>70812882
fpbp

>>70814448
Reagan is among the authors of our current world economical system, even most democrats are reaganites. I would argue he made at least some conservative ideas very 'hip'

>>70814560
>not realizing that the most perfect system of government is one that doesn't waste money on schools, but does punish people for having sex outside of marriage

Soon you will.

>>70814602
That's why everyone and their dog avoids the term trickle down like the plague and reaganomics is an insult? Or how his own party coined "voodoo economics" to describe his policy plan.

>>70814527
That's not minarchism. Enforcing morality already makes the government pretty big.

>>70814665
Did you get cucked or something?

should be electronic stuff against trump. make use of modern technology and production techniques instead of just rehashing old genres. come up with something new, cause punk was a new sound, thats why it was cool. muslimgauze style would be fucking perfect for the travel ban thing, unfortunately thats still a rehash but at least a newer rehash. perhaps electronic music using theory of world music instead of just sampling. but of course this wont work for trump fucking over america itself because we already use our theory in electronic music and folktronica is a thing already with regards to just sampling it.

>>70814706
Enforcing morality is the government's only legitimate function.

>>70814720
No, I'm a virgin.

>>70814484
It's pretty rough dude. I just have to hope these people calm the fuck down soon.

>>70814721
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNuYGxMV-xQ
how about pro trump?

>>70814752
...National defense and security is government's initial and primary function

>>70814752
Enforcing morality is the one thing government should NOT do.

>>70814484
i feel you.

center-left reporting in.

>>70814781
That too. I sometimes leave that part out, but yes, the government needs a military, as well as police.

>>70814792
It's illegal to murder, that's morality being enforced. The only question is how far do you go with it.

>when will giant corporations and record companies commodify political and social movements by exploiting retarded millennials and draining them of their money

soon, senpai, soon

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>>70814296
>Check out National Bolshevism if you want some juicy memes
This. It is the edgiest political ideology ever invented.
And if they ever were to capture power in a country one day, I'm pretty sure they will ask Laibach to compose their anthem.

>>70814831
IMO the only thing a government should do is enforce contracts.

>>70814845
Bolshevism is disgusting and is on par with the Nazis for oppression and slaughter.

>>70814752
>No, I'm a virgin.
somehow I supposed that might be the case. honest question. Have you ever watched gay porn just to learn what the fuss is all about?

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>>70814842
You think it's funny, turning rebellion into money?

>next 4 years
>every musician
>"trump sure is bad ya'll
>trump still president

>>70814888
No, I haven't, unless you count lesbian porn, but I'm trying to quit watching it because porn should also be illegal.

I mean look how the punk music stopped bush, two terms and 8 years, we showed him!! >:)

>>70812849
People forget that speaking out against Bush after 9/11 was a legitimately brave thing to do. The Dixie Chicks learned that the hard way.

>>70814917
What is your moral argument for this?

>>70814917
Dude I promise that you will let go of these highly conservative ideas when you get laid to some extent.

>>70814919
Why did you vote him in again? I'm not american and the international community say him as a train wreck as of 2003 at the latest. What was the appeal?

>>70814885
lmfao. Stalin was a hero to the Soviet people and also the rightful Orthodox Tsar of Russia. Nazbol will defeat the liberal antichrist and bring about an end to all suffering. keep crying zionist

>>70814967
literally 9/11

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>>70814883
That's why it's the edgiest, it's just people who want to be submissive to some dictator, whenever it's Stalin, Hitler, or Khomeini

>>70814967
He actually stole the election from Al Gore and Jeb helped rig the votes in Florida.

>>70814970
>Stalin was a hero to the tens of millions of Soviet deaths he was responsible for
>praises Bolshevisim
>calls me a zionist

Holy fucking shit dude

>>70814976
But he handled it so poorly. Why vote in a blunderer again after that? Were you all collectively brainwashed?

>>70814967
>>70814999
Incumbent presidents have a huge advantage historically. It's very rare for them to lose.

>>70814992
That was his first election. His second election he won fairly.

>>70814992
I know about that. I'm wondering about the 2004 election.

>>70814991*
Shit meant to quote >>70814885 but whatever it's not music related

>>70814957
There's many reasons. Frankly, it's fairly obvious that the more violent kinds pornography can't be doing any good for society, but even the more vanilla types usually involve women acting in ways that no women in real life act, doing things that women don't really enjoy, thus setting real women up to not be able to satisfy their porn addicted lovers. Not that it matters much, because porn use is linked with erectile dysfunction, which young men are getting in higher numbers as porn becomes easier to access.

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>>70814917
>porn should also be illegal

>>70815010
Also the Democrats just put up terrible candidates. Gore fumbled, Kerry was a disaster, and Clinton last year was even more of a disaster. Obama was mainly successful because there was a hysteria at the time about electing the first black president.

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How democrats challenge republican authority : live streams, tweets, punk music, harry potter analogies, rioting in their own neighborhoods, reblogging dr. who gifs, play bongos in the park


How republicans challenge democratic authority: Slowly and methodically take back the majority of the branches of government and state legislatures, and ultimately the presidency all while the media, Hollywood, silicon vally, wall street, celebrities, the pope, the world, and even your own party tries to stop you.

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>>70814484
>>70814753
>>70814828

>>70815142
Straw
No one said that you have to be moderate
Not wanting to gas jews is definitely pretty moderate

>>70814845
They also had some great music. Sergey Kuryokhin and GrOB's Egor Letov where among the original party members. It started as edgy Laibach or Boyd Rice performance art stuff, but some people apparently took it very seriously. Alex Dugin is like the Jim Jones+Rasputin, dude's an occultist who wants to bring about the eschaton.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW44vWfUhxs

>>70812849
>Punk
I can guarantee it would be hip hop

>>70815187
wtf i want to be a nazbol now

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>>70815257
Trump is way ahead of you losers.

Was Rock Against Bush even that bad? idk

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>>70812919
But did punk ever come back to life?

>>70815458
New Kanye Industrial Fash Rap when?

>>70815515
>1977 + 25 = 2002
No. Jay Reatard died before he could have resurrected punk.

>>70815731
>Shipping Off To Boston
>Turning of the century

Also
>NOFX 2000 Pump Up the Valuum

Did you miss that one?

>>70812849
Established punk bands will definitely make albums about it but new bands will bring a new genre. I could see it being industrial hip hop, death grips is going to be a big influence on future hip hop or indie music, and it already has the angry abrasiveness that punk had.

>>70813760
Gen Z is overwhelmingly liberal. Most are fine with any race or orientation, although heavily conservative areas still do have like 25% homophobic kids because of christianity.

>>70815257
Most likely, you'll get cringy liberal chart friendly stuff, like the music used on Hillary's campaign, at most green day level of political awareness. As soon as 'the left' becomes a treat to the security state it stops being a marketable commodity for the record business.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLGFyxAP0QE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YttscNOoAjA

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>>70814893
>next 4 years
8

>>70815142
Do you want me to find you a picture of a turquoise sky? I will find you a picture of a turquoise sky you little shit.

>>70816960
kek, but still, I thought Jones hated Trump

>>70814891
The only band, that still matters.

>>70816994
Have you been watching Infowars. The idea of a non politician becoming president could have made Jones nut. And it happened. He loves it, bless his heart.

>>70812849
To my shame I bought and listened to this album in a sincere manner when I was a clueless teenager.

>Will we see a new wave of politically motivated edgy pop punk aimed at teenagers?

No but we will see a new wave of cynically motivated cash ins that pretend to be politically motivated and produce semi-edgy pop punk aimed at teenagers.