/daily/ - GFR Returns Edition

rod i decided to throw on that sakamoto-glitch thing and it's pretty fantastic so far
way to make a strong comeback

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first for longcat

>>70769779
i'm in boys.

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>>70769779
fuck YOUUUUUUUUU

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>>70769780
>>70769800

These are some vintage memes. Have you had them appraised?

Here's another for your collection.

>>70769800
longcat may be long, but he is slow

>>70769541
EthyBoy - Rituals review when?

Ladies u want yo man long and slow or short n fast

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>>70769863
tyvm here's another

>>70769926
if i review your album will you do your fucking song tourney

Smh this was my high school

http://www.complex.com/life/2017/02/texas-high-school-nazi-salute-trump-picture

>>70769994
Did y'all miss that time I posted the results btw? Only homie trip up replied haha

>>70768283
welcome back!

i can't even deny it, it's smart and cool as hell conceptually, and it's executed well, but i can't for the life of me get into that sound/style fully. i'll check out yer album tonight btw.

>>70769997
>high schoolers doing dumb shit
Stop the presses.

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>>70770040
haha

>>70770045
The media will eat this shit up given our current political climate

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ya boy gotta bus a nut and get six milli baka -_-

>>70769997
I'm gonna get u ;))

>>70770040
I guess I did. My rec is Dark Was the Night - Cold Was the Ground

>>70770162
That's more like it. A little communication

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Gil-Scott Heron - Winter In America

Great album, though it’s much mellower than the other albums I’ve heard from GSH. Brian Jackson is a huge influence on here, with some really great jams on what sounds like a Wurlitzer. It adds a nice atmospheric touch which is quite different than what I remember from Pieces of a Man. At first, I found it to be boring - I was expecting some upbeat funk but instead I got the opposite. I should’ve done some research before.

As an album, it’s surprisingly consistent. “Peace Go With You Brother” is a great way to kick off the album - and it’s similar to Marvin Gaye’s “What’s Happening Brother”. I also recognized the opening piano riff from a Kendrick Lamar track and I always love hearing that. “Rivers of My Fathers” and “The Bottle” are both nice political cuts. And “A Very Precious Time” and “Back Home” are nice little nostalgic ones. I think my favorite track might actually be “H20 Gate Blues”, which tackles a lot of the political and social issues that were happening in the mid 70s. It’s more spoken word and probably the least interesting instrumentally but I really liked the approach. Though I think GSH has an awesome, soothing voice, I do love when he goes the spoken word route. It works better than most I’ve heard.

Anyway, pretty damn good.

4/5

>>70770041
thanks.
John Zobele is one of the smartest people vaporwave has ever come in contact with. it helps that he's done a lot of work in real, catchy plunderphonics before getting into the scene. check out his work with the group Stab Something. might be more up your alley.
tell me how you like the ep btw.
>>70769997
who else /comfy in the mostly neutral mid east coast/ here?

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birthday is coming up in like half a year someone get me the merzbox

>>70770245

sent :^)

>>70770240
jersey bois
>>70770245
sounds like a lot of
HOOPLA

>>70770162
>I'm gonna get u ;))
False, already graduated

>>70770330
i'm comin over ;))))

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>>70769780
>>70769800
>tfw longcat's owner got married

>>70770240
/socal/ here. Not exactly neutral but San Diego seems to be surprisingly moderate.

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>>70770347

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Wew economics midterm was only 1 hour long, shit was like a 100m sprint.
Made a shitty math error that cost me a lot of marks but I did pretty good overall methinks.

>>70768283
>i'm back
Never heard of you.

>>70768439
Holy fuck I miss this meme.

>>70770162
ya boy gotta bus a nut and get six milli baka -_-
Can you take the next hiatus pls

>>70770367
be right there ;))))))))))))))))

>>70770368
idk last time I took a hiatus /daily/ exploded

>>70770379
>be right there ;))))))))))))))))
:0

>>70770387
>>be right there ;))))))))))))))))
>:0
:0

>>70770365
sounds nice
>>70770368
>Made a shit
gj

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Hey /daily/, what's the last album you heard where the following happened:
you gave it a listen, liked it a bit, but only one or two songs really got your attention. but you kept listening, and more and more songs got your attention on subsequent listens, your favorite constantly changing? it's pic related for me. I used to only like the opener, now I like the whole thing

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Kamasi Washington's The Epic is currently the easiest and funniest album to troll with on /mu/.
Prove me wrong.

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>>70770462

>mfw :0
:0

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>Lowercase - The Going Away Present
I liked it. Nice music.
>Karate - Unsolved
I liked it, but the lounge jazz style and stop start vocal delivery got a bit tiresome.

>>70770447
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/graham_kartna/ideation_deluxe/

>>70770447
It's been a long time since I've done that; seems like a phenomenon that occurs exclusively with rock music, which I haven't listened to much in the past few months.

>>70770447
i agree w jangle that this is a thing that happens in rock/pop music and i'd say for me its happened with most albums that i love in those genres

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>>70770447
HATED this album years ago, but it's a pretty rewarding relisten. The fact that there is zero synths and just guitar blows my mind. Like, how? The tones Robin Guthrie makes on that album are amazing. I didn't care for Black Saint and the Sinner Lady first time around but coming back to it it's fantastic.

>>70770462
either >>70770479 or Good Morning Good Night but The Epic is really high up there anyways. It's literally called the EPIC lmao.

>>70770505
>>70770534
What reason would there be for it being a solely pop phenomenon?

>>70770479
It's too predictable to illicit genuine reaction.
Definitely deserves the highest meme status though.

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>>70770447
Idk about the last album this happened to me on, but i only liked 3 or so of the songs on this after the first listen. Now i think damn near every song is amazing and i always find new things to like about it every listen.

>>70770566
i just think vocal melodies have the highest potential to be a "slow burn" for someone

>>70770447

Comme à la radio

>>70770566
I didn't say pop but I definitely should have.
Rock/pop are usually more singles-oriented which leads to filler tracks supplemented in to market as a whole album.

>>70770240
stab something looks cool, and i'll tell ya later tonight or tomorrow.

>>70770240
>who else /comfy in the mostly neutral mid east coast/ here?
central new york is quite nice

>>70770447
either/or didn't grab me at all when i listened to it at first, i thought it was a shittier pop version of elliott's s/t album. now it's by far my favorite of his, and one of my favorite albums of all time.

and to be perfectly honest i only revisited it because a quick clip of speed trials was used in a what's in my bag video and i thought it was the most gorgeous sounding thing i've ever heard

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Which one should I listen to right now?

>>70770786

Duchamp

>>70770812
Will do, thanks.

>>70770214
Cool review, I dl'ed this earlier today
Very hype for it now

How do you say "Jorge Ben"?

George Ben?
You're Gee Ben?
Jore Gee Ben?
YOU'RE GAY BEN?????????

>>70770953

whore
hay
ben

>>70770953

Georgio Bean

>>70770953
The Gyro Geriee Gay Gay Gay

>>70770953

Sufyan Stevens

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Get working on that review, Fish.

>This Heat - Horizontal Hold (theSound)
This Heat are really out-of-this-world good. It just blows me away the music they’re hearing in their heads that they can translate. 8.5/10

>Hudjan Mas - Golden Rain (!)
This is what you all were flipping out over? It was nice, I wasn’t blown away. 7/10

theSound moves on.

>Rod Stewart - Maggie May (nyarlathotep)
You’ll all think I’m kidding. I’ve always thought this song was great. It just captures this feeling of being young and frivolous but heartbroken so specifically and well, I think. You can hear so much emotion. 8/10

>King Creosote - You Just Want (Anca)
This was also great. Really drone-y and psychedelic, almost krautrock in a hypnotic way. Unexpectedly good, but I don’t feel they put much work into the melody.

nyarlathotep scrapes by.

>Neuromancer - Pennywise (Shamepai)
I don’t think anyone could call this breakbeat lazy. Damn, this is pretty good. Just feels so loud and layered. Can’t say I’m into dance music, but this feels so uplifting in a way you’d want. 7/10

>Temptations - Cloud Nine (Triangle)
Yeah, this was good and fun. I know these are The Temptations, but I wish they took vocals down a notch and brought up the guitars and made it just a little more instrumental, you know? 7/10

Triangle moves on.

>Disillusion - Alea (Raziel)
Very well done for what it is. Great production, drums sound loud and nice. This kind of stuff just feels a little too formulaic though, that vocal melody feels lazy, the tones feel overused. I had to check to make sure this wasn’t made like 15 years ago. 6/10

>tirestirestires - After Sex Under Parents (drgp)
Wow, what exactly did they do to get it to sound like that? That effect is beyond cool. The melody wasn’t otherwise. 7/10

drgp moves on.

>>70770932
Thanks dude! Definitely give it a listen and lemme know what you think

>>70771487

you do remember what song i reccd, right

>>70771619
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isLqoB3v_wI

Got it.

>>70771671
>>70770071

>>70771487
Vocals on that song are pretty great imo but to each his own

Next rec is Michael Hurley - Sweedeedee

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Indeterminacy penned in 1913? Is there anything more patrician?
In all seriousness, this is a very captivating and enjoyable listen, even when stripping it's historical context. It's incredibly arty music, and it's clear that it was not influenced by other musical pieces, but rather from other forms and styles of art.
Given that the artist was a successful painter, sculptor and conceptual artist, this seems a reasonable conclusion.

The first piece is an airy and spacious 25-minute indeterminacy piece consisting of celeste, flute, glockenspiel and trombone. While instrumentation seems largely independent, occasional facets of harmony present themselves, giving the piece a kind of converging unity. Certainly an interesting and enjoyable piece.

The next song, 3 voices, consists of single syllables sung in alternating scales with notes apparently picked at random. A little after the halfway point, two additional singers accompany the first, one echoing the note of the first and the second singing a random note in the alternate key. It's an interesting concept, and the short track time makes it a forgivable experiment.

The third track sounds like a piano interpretation of 3 voices, with alternating notes from seperate keys, but allotting the musician more freedom to apply chords and intermediate notes. It's certainly not a surprise at this point that the track abandons melody and harmony, but it still manages to sound methodical and precise enough to remain interesting throughout.

The final track ends the album beautifully, with a music-box esque composition with sparse echoes of toys squeaking and falling on the floor. Also of course, a very loud horn blow without warning in case the melody lulled you to sleep.
This leaves such a peculiar impression that I can forsee raising the score a lot in the future. For now:

Great album.
7.5 /10

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Aloof Proof - Piano Text (2007)
>ambient

Pretty standard ambient, derivative and not the best ambient in the world but comfy and well done. The tone and texture of the pieces definitely outweighs how good the actual compositions are, but the sound of the record is very warm and engrossing, it's like a warm, fuzzy blanket in musical form. Gets uninteresting after a while, and it's too long, but it's nice.

2.5+

Flow Dan - Original Dan (2009)
>grime

There are some absolute bangers on this thing. I actually really like grime when it's done well, and the best tracks here, mostly found at the front of the record, are some of the best grime I've heard. The dubstep-esque production is hard-hitting, Flow Dan himself is on fire, and the pace just never lets up. Sadly, that same song gets repeated sixteen times. I really do like the sound here, the production is nice and I like Flow Dan as an MC, it's just far too long to warrant how little variation there is, musically, vocally, and lyrically.

2.5

real quick bump i've gotta say some things about rod's record

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If you have never liked a midwest emo album you have never had a happy thought in your life it is as simple as that

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Jorge - True Friendship (2017)
>ambient

If you could all stop being so talented, I'd really appreciate it. I love the concept of this thing, taking samples from ultra-energetic, high-pitched nightcore and completely transforming them into a tranquil, meditative ambient album. The sampling is wonderful, there are a few awkward, choppy loops here and there but most of them all flow seamlessly into each other, and they're all completely different from their source material, they seem completely organic. Musically, it's good ambient. It's not anything insanely special, but it's very enveloping and the more melodic segments are very pretty. Nice work! From what I've heard from 2017, this is my favorite so far.

3.0+

>>70773981
midwest emo is a lovely genre

it makes me nostalgic for my teenage years and i'm still a teenager

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Rainbow - Rising (1976)
>hard rock, heavy metal

If I'd have known about Rainbow back when I was in middle school, they'd have probably been my favorite band. They're heavy, I still admittedly love Dio as a vocalist, and they're classic rock! But as I've grown apart with this style, I can really only see a generic album in a style that's been done to death. Blackmore's guitar is of course great, but the only thing here that has any real personality is Dio's vocals, and even they are sometimes a bit too over the top. The shorter songs make absolutely no lasting impressions, but the last two tracks are actually pretty good. "Stargazer" is overblown as shit, but "A Light in the Black" is a pretty cool rocker with some nice riffs and operatic vocals. Worth a listen for the last two tracks, as spotty as they may be, but all in all pretty bland.

2.0+

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Good morning /daily/!

Picking up my car today! Excited!

I think I'm warming up towards Loren Connors a bit. Still not a big fan, but I can see where he's going.

>>70769740
https://soundcloud.com/nqmanikoi/s-dni
leaving this for dogwander to find.

>>70775893
I like the bits past the 10 minute mark where the broadcasts fall in with the recordings of horns.

I think the piece itself would benefit by having a single thread connecting all the sections like a fade in motif amidst the sections.

Otherwise I think it was entertaining.

>>70772811
>Flow Dan - Original Dan (2009)
>>grime
Tell me how this compares to London Zoo

>>70776084
<3

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wooah

SHSK'H vol 5 was mainly solo viola playing and solo instrument playing really doesn't captivate me at all so this is just a case of me having shit taste
4+

Wooden Ball, something the audio design gets tooo cheap past it's intended purpose but otherwise i like it though there's alot that could of been done, plenty of meandering but else its basic fun with a nice style, but did leave alot desired.
6 (will change the number on the image)

lamb advances

>>70776084
not as inventive or sonically varied but more consistent and I like it more

>>70774412
>a generic album in a style that's been done to death.
Complaining that an album is generic when it is among the progenitors of the entire genre of music seems a bit odd...

Like complaining that Death's "Scream Bloody Gore" is generic.

>>70778256
it's a completely valid complaint. you can't go back to when you haven't heard everyone who copied or expanded on it yet after all

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afternoon bois

>Fela Ransome Kuti & Africa 70 - Expensive Shit
Is this really the Fela Kuti everyone talks about so much? It doesn't feel that funky, for parts it's just a bit boring, it's not repetitive enough to be groovy but at the same time it's too repetitive to be interesting for 10+ minutes. I can't say I didn't enjoy it but I am disappointed, I hope I like some of his other releases more but maybe I just don't like Afrobeat's mix of jazz and funk. 3/5

>John Fahey - The Yellow Princess
Recommending Fahey really is cheating, the man's a genius, I've yet to rate a record I've heard from him lower than 8/10, it's going to be sad when I find one I don't like. He gets so much feeling into his music, I just instantly fall into the world he creates. And there is a nice amount variation on this record, the use of a band for a couple of songs works very well, Fahey's guitar over the military beat on March! For MLK is brilliant and the sound collage of The Singing Bridge is a nice little interlude. 4/5

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I went out of my comfort zone and listened to Transgod’s rec (How We Both Wondrously Perish by Being as an Ocean), and after two listens I think I’m well enough equipped to completely tear this album apart. No, I did not entirely hate it – it actually had some pretty spectacular moments – but it’s a great case study of how a good idea can be completely run into the ground by terrible – and I repeat TERRIBLE – execution. I guess it was somewhat of a learning experience for me in that sense. In the next couple of posts I’m going to rip this album a new one, bit by bit.

So let’s start off with the vocals, as they’re quite obviously the focal point of this record. This band uses the pretty typical harsh/core vocals vs. sterilized, “emotional” clean vocals, sometimes using the harsher vocals in an almost spoken-word like context with a preachy inflection quite obviously ripped from bands like La Dispute and Listener. I could kinda dig the core vocals here, as they’re pretty raw and feel really emotive most of the time and the spoken word vocals are ripped off well enough that they sound almost as convincing as those from the bands I mentioned earlier.
The clean vocals though, are a special brand of terrible. I really don’t have to explain this, but using sterilized, nasal, pop-punk-but-without-attitude vocals in every single (yes, every single one of them!) chorus to contrast the demented bellowing of the harsh vocalist severely dampens their effect. These clean vocals always seem to play the role of throwing in a more personal, emotional aspect into the song, as most of the harsh vocals sound very aggressive, but when they’re used so formulaically they come off sounding more as an obligated part of the song. They’re thrown in even when clean vocals do not add anything to the song’s narrative or message or flow.

(1/5)

>>70778937
They’ve become such a metalcore/post-hardcore trope that bands are throwing them in out of sheer obligation or convention and not because they actually work. They just feel out of place most of the time.

Now, I said I liked the spoken word vocals well enough because of their delivery, but when you actually start listening to what the dude has to say it goes from “pretty cool” to simply cringe worthy real quick. He tries so hard to describe the human condition (again, in a La Dispute-like way), but he forgets to actually weave the narratives that makes La Dispute’s lyrics at least slightly compelling. What’s left are some middle-school tier “dark” lyrics. Consider these lines (from a song titled Death’s Great Black Wings):
>Now's the time for knowledge
>Now's the time for Truth
>Humanity has already suffered so much abuse
>We must take responsibility, and do away with apathy
>Unlearn society's teachings
>To be blind and selfish
>Because what you must learn
>Is that the problem is us
It’s such a simple, banal insight delivered in such an urgent, self-important way (spoken word, half-crying). It’s just…plain dumb, for lack of a better word.
You see, if such a message were delivered through an interesting metaphor, or through a narrative, it would at least be a bit easier to swallow, but the entire song just seems like a meditation on this single thought, with some examples haphazardly splattered around without any sort of elaboration (We still defile and abuse the innocent / Like items to be sold or owned / Slavery and prostitution is no place for a nine year old).

(2/5)

>>70778951
The lyrics are just so fucking flimsy. I mean, this song flat out presents its main theme in the first couple of lines (We shout up at the sky / Until our mouths are bloody and dry / Screaming out at a god that seems to be blind / To the suffering of us here below; those pushed aside) and never fleshes it out in any way. There’s just no fucking reason these lyrics should even exist beyond the first verse.
I mean, I guess this is a personal preference of mine, but the lyrics on this record simply don’t bear any fucking substance bar their core message.
They’re good for a good laugh though, with lines like Away from family and friends
/ But what they can't see / Is that every day I'm drowning in a sea / Of faces that I miss so desperately.

In terms of song structure and instrumentation this record seems to be unable to decide whether it wants to be artsy (with the generic electronic loops and ambient parts that inevitably come with that aspiration) or wants to be by-the-numbers post-hardcore. The thing is, they end up going for the latter, occasionally sprinkling in some artsy electronic touches in the most superficially possible way. There’s plenty of ambient intros and outros on this record, but there’s no electronics or experimentation to be found anywhere during the songs themselves. Every single song on this record (except the last two) is just simply a verse-chorus-verse song with either a short ambient intro or outro that does not, in any way, affect the rest of the song. As soon as the rock instrumentation kicks in, the ambience is nowhere to be found. Why incorporate electronic sounds if you’re not giving them any substantial role?

(3/5? 6? idk)

>>70778959
Speaking of structure, one of the places where this muddled sense of artsiness grates me most is the penultimate track. After the second chorus they clumsily introduce (seriously, it sounds copy-pasted) this pretty beautiful laidback instrumental part that seems to fit in pretty well with the rest of the song. The trumpet solo actually made me pretty excited that they were actually gonna go anywhere with it – it’d work pretty great if they’d chosen to, for example, build that instrumental part into a last climax or chorus – but they just fucking let it linger for about 2 minutes and then just let it fade out. What was the point of even including the part? They could’ve done so much with it, but instead they treat it like just another outro that has little to no connection to the actual song.
It’s like they have no idea whatsoever how to write a satisfying piece of music beyond the standard verse-chorus-verse structure that has so obviously been beaten into them by their contemporaries. Either you actually experiment with your song structure and soundcraft in a way that adds to your music or you stop pretending to give a fuck about experimentation and stop throwing in your half-assed attempts at being progressive. This mix of ideas just feels convoluted, forced and completely god damn unnecessary. It’s the epitome of “polishing a turd”.

But this isn’t even what irked me most about this album. The production is the final nail in its coffin. It’s so god damn disgustingly clean. It’s so god damn disgustingly compressed. It’s just a fucking disaster. The loud parts are loud as hell but the soft parts are just as loud so the loud parts don’t have any “oomph” whatsoever. The guitar sound is just plain boring, distorted but without any trace of filth. The bass is mixed loudly but doesn’t have any of the presence it ought to have because it cuts out every time the drummer uses his kick drum.

(4/6)

>>70778969
There is literally zero space in the mix for anything other than the base instrumentation. Even when they actually try to incorporate some additional instrumentation and electronics, 9 out of 10 times it’s either inaudible or it muddies up the mix to the point where it becomes even more of a mess than it already is. In the softer parts the drum hits audibly push the guitar and vocals back in the mix. There’s this point in the last track where the drums come in crescendoing with a crash and a kick drum and it’s so horribly compressed that you can’t even hear the crash hits themselves. It almost sounds like they intentionally went for an EDM-like sidechain effect but I think the only reason why it sounds considerably worse here is because it’s the only track slow enough to give the rest of the instrumentation the time to actually fade back in after the drum hits.
I’m not a sound engineer in any sense of the word but even I could make this album sound better than the talentless fucking hack that mastered this record. Listening to this on anything other than phone speakers will make you want to kill yourself.

(5/6)

>>70778977
So yeah.
There were some of the cleaner guitar parts in the verses that were honestly kinda cool, but the constant use of power chords in the loud parts just made it all blend together. The atmosphere overall was great and had a sort of ominous and mournful quality of it that reminded me, once again, of La Dispute, but the songs that conveyed these amtospheres were, without exception, so formulaic that I got bored by the third track. The drummer’s really good but the drums sound like total shit because of the cancerous mastering. The vocals are mostly well done and they fit in well but the lyrics are completely void of any sort of substance to the point where they’re just plain laughable. The ambient touches are really pretty but they sound like a mere afterthought.
There’s a bunch of good ideas hidden in this record, but the result is so utterly, profoundly shit that I honestly don’t know how or why they even released this trainwreck.
I’m generally not an extremely picky or critical listener but just about everything about this album pushed my buttons and I hope I’ve made sufficiently clear why. I'm not even mad, I'm just disappointed.
Peace out.

>>70778989
fokin demolished

>>70778294
the question what's the big difference between listening to a song/band over and over, and to carbon copies of it could lead to some interesting points, on the other hand

>>70778256
true enough, but there had already been a fair amount of heavy metal before 76, no?

>>70775749
vroom vroom

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>>70778989
Can't believe I read a six post review of an album I was never going to listen to

Choice zingers:
>The lyrics are just so fucking flimsy.
>It’s the epitome of “polishing a turd”.
>Listening to this on anything other than phone speakers will make you want to kill yourself.
>I'm not even mad, I'm just disappointed.

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>>70778989
>speaking of overproduction
im wondering at what point can abundance of digital clipping be called "noise rock/industrial influence" and embraced as aesthetically desirable
or like what happened with vinyl surface noise and tape hiss, ykno what i mean
i already thought about that cuz of Mors Principium Est but pic related is insane senpai

>>70779236
>a fair amount of heavy metal before 76, no?
Not in the style of Rising.

The closest things that compare are Uriah Heep & Budgie, which are both still more in the vein of Sabbath/Led Zeppelin/Deep Purple.

Heavy Metal as it developed through the 80s really began with Rising and Sad Wings of Destiny in '76. (Rainbow and JP's first albums didn't quite find this new style yet).

>>70779530
i've never thought of Rainbow of proto-speed/power metal but that really makes a lot of sense
>>70779438
ty ty
>>70779484
>at what point can abundance of digital clipping be called "noise rock/industrial influence" and embraced as aesthetically desirable
never, unless it's in a lo-fi context

>>70779747
>never
that's quitter talk

>>70779773
>quitter
yo i listened to your shitty scenecore record twice in its entirity
i demand respect

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Morning lads.

>>70775749
Damn, how much does it weigh?

>>70779846

About 0.5 Americans

Hey /blog/

Holy shit, I might just have gotten the opportunity to start doing real research and publish during my education. My tutor said the goal would be to publish four articles before I'm done with my studies, which is basically what you need to write your disputation and become a doctor. I'm not even gonna apply to become a physician anymore if this actually comes to fruition like intended.

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Morning

>>70779891
Nicenice, I'm looking to publish my first paper quite soon as well and am p hyped. Do you know specifically what you want to do? Is it assisting professors or can you just think up your own research w/ supervision?

>>70779974
To begin with we're assisting a professor, but will end up as co-authors on those publications, and hopefully we'll publish one or two articles as first name, which is just fucking amazing. Out of the two options I have to pick from, I'm leaning towards studying reactions to fear, because the kind of studies proposed are completely new and innovative, so it should be fairly easy to publish. Also we get to work with VR exposure, which is just amazing. The other option is emotional reading and empathy, which has some real world applications but I'm not quite as interested in that.

We'll see, I'm gonna start reading papers this weekend to decide more thoroughly.

>>70780074
Sounds awesome, I did sth similar (in a different field); http://www.cs.ru.nl/bachelorscripties/2016/Sander_van_Dam___4350766___Sufficient_conditions_for_sound_hashing_using_a_truncated_permutation.pdf
(only second part is relevant, first part was bureaucratic bs for the uni) Needs polishing and have to go through peer review but I'm p hopeful.

>>70780099
Is this different from a bachelor/master's thesis? I just looked at the introduction so far and it seems similar to how we write our bs/ms essays.

>>70780233
yeah the introduction is that, the paper itself is more advanced. It was as a thesis, but my supervisor liked it so we continued working on it to publish it, this is still the thesis-version, but don't have the current version online.

>>70780249
Fair. Good job writing a publish-worthy thesis then! According to my tutor here, he's only read a single thesis that he deemed worthy to publish, and tried to do so, but according to the three journals he applied to they would have had to test for IQ as well as the other stuff, to rule out that as a confounder (which in context doesn't make any sense, but apparently was policy for all the journals). Then again he's only been a tutor for five years here and the program is only 8 years old.

>>70780279
Yeah, it doesn't happen all that often over here either, but desu it's just about putting in a fuckton of work and I'd argue your supervisor plays a huge role. My supervisor is one of the leading experts in this field and I'd never have written this without him.

>>70780309
Yeah, same here. The guy I'm gonna work with is also top of the field, so that's amazing. However this we're doing isn't for our thesis, but strictly aimed at creating something publishable. We still have to write our theses later, but this is just too exciting.

>>70778911
Bummer, I was hoping you'd like that one a bit more :/ Guess I was screwed going up against Fahey though

make me a chart

>>70779833
@ least u tried. i feel like i'm fatigued of the style atm because i've gone through so many bands recently, but you didn't seem to soo..
>it’d work pretty great if they’d chosen to, for example, build that instrumental part into a last climax or chorus
oh man i relate to that, the bulk of metal/core bands just completely fail at arranging. even if their ambient tracks are interesting by themselves, stuff like Branikald or Acherontas
come to think of it the Chariot track i posted last thread does exactly what you're saying and it's amazing, but it's also an exception even for the band

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>>70780435

>>70780474
>so many bands
*that sound exactly like this maybe without the post-rock/la dispute influence gimmick thing

>>70779946
Scaruffi is an international treasure
>>70780099
Did you write that? Very cool. Goes way over my head, but oh well.
>>70780513
>>70780435
2017 aoty chart right there boys

>>70779530
you make a good point! I can definitely see a lot of rainbow in '80s metal. I'm still not a fan of the album but I agree I made a lazy criticism of it.

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Does anyone know where I can find more music like this song at around the 0:45 mark?
https://youtu.be/tu5FFM9EqFM?t=42s

>>70778037
Interesting! I'll try it

>>70778989
>cancerous mastering
Stealing this

>>70780608
You study compsci too right? If so I could explain the basic concept in a few sentences if yr interested :)

>>70781068
Please explain in a few sentences regardless, I'm interested in seeing what I can understand as well lmao

>>70781404
okay so you have hash function, which are basically functions that only go one-way and are thus irreversible (used for storing passwords for example). There're 3 conditions for these functions to be secure but it's hard proving these when designing a new function. I basically prove that if you meet certain conditions which are much easier to prove (only pertaining to how you encode stuff basically) you automatically have a certain security, making it easier to design hash functions for this specific subtype. People were doing this before kind of, but it was never formally proven like this, mainly because cryptography was a mess untill like the 80s/90s when they started formalizing stuff.

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>>70781068
haha nah

Just business business

And that's comp sci? I mean, I saw some binary there, but it seemed pretty math to me.

>>70780794
I love that old time jazz orchestra sound—the strings in the beginning are gorgeous. And I'd flag down a jazz aficionado if I were you. That sounds like cool jazz or bebop, big band, to me, but I'm not expert.

>>70781444
it's cryptography, which is indeed more math than compsci, but fsr it falls under compsci, which is a godsend because mathematicians are idiots who over formalize everything.

>>70781477
Oh hey, my younger brother is really into cryptography. He's applying to colleges now to study math and comp sci. Seems like a hot field.

Also I'm sitting in front of my two pet mice as they eat, trying to figure out what their favourite food is so I can begin conditioning them.

>>70781435
So basically you're formalizing something to make it more accessible for future designs? What are those three conditions?

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>>70781512
coolcool, I love it, it's the only reason I still want to study compsci

>>70781518
pic rel, some will seem overly similar, but there are subtle differences

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>>70781518

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>>70781518
Feed them the carcasses of the cats after they have been skinned

>>70781562
Now that I know you're talking about cryptography, this actually makes a bit more sense, or at least it's not completely overwhelming

>>70781518
Cheese. They like cheese. Experiment over

>>70781562
>Pre-image resistance
If you have h, you won't be able to find m with a proper hash?

>Second pre-image resistance
If you have m1, you shouldn't be able to figure out m2 for the same hash, or something?

>Collision resistance
A single hash should not be the same when input is m1 and m2, but instead must yield different hash?

I don't think I can into this.

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>>70781629
or turkey

>>70781603
>implying I have access to cats

>>70781629
Actually mice don't tend to like cheese. It's a myth, just like cats liking milk.

>>70781641
>If you have h, you won't be able to find m with a proper hash?
Pretty sure I'm off on this, but I kind of think of it like once it's scrambled, even if you know how it was scrambled, it'd be difficult to unscramble it

I feel ya though, whenever I'm talking with my brother about this stuff, I'm never right. It's just not easy to put to English

>>70781677
you could start a cat ranch next door

you can feed the rats to the cats and the cats to the rats and get the cat skins for nothin'

>>70781677
>Actually mice don't tend to like cheese.
thanks for the Nat Geo Kids fun fact hampy
did you know dogs don't actually eat cats like in cartoons?

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>>70781708
I got a solid 20-30 seconds of genuine laughter from this post, thx friend, needed that

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>>70781770

>>70781708
Great post.

Also, elephants don't eat peanuts, chimps aren't monkeys, etc.

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So cute.

>>70781708
10/10

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>>70781804

>>70781817
is this one of your meeses?
frickin adorable

have you named them?

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i'm pretty ready to be done with this chart. can't find bondage women streaming anywhere, either -_-

>lambchop- thriller
some weird stuff, usual lambchop filler-y stuff, and some FUCKING GREAT singles at the beginning.

>>70781677
>It's a myth, just like cats liking milk.
my cat likes milk

>>70781770
who all seen the leprechaun say yeah

>>70781804
>>70781848
this is a good meme

>>70781855
Yes, that is Pi and another black one is called Spot.

>>70781858
Correction: cat's like milk because it contains fat, however they are generally lactose intolerant and will get runny shits if they drink too much.

>>70781880
oh ok good thing I don't give Mooch milk any more

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>>70781817
quality photo and quality mouse
>>70781863
do acid again and make some more

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Btw I'd like to thank anon (>>70780794) for introducing me to Heinz Kiessling. This big band easy listening stuff is real chill, albeit not as spectacular as the piece in that YT link.

>>70781641
>Pre-image resistance
yeah so h is the result of using the hash over m, and you shouldn't be able to get m if you only know h.

>Second pre-image resistance
if you have a message m1, you shouldn't be able to find a different message m2, which has the same result when hashed.

>Collision resistance
it should be difficult to find two different messages with the same hash result. (like I said, this seems very similar to second pre-image resistance, but the difference is that with second pre-image resistance you are given one of the messages and it should be difficult to find a second, while this property stated that it should just be difficult to find two random messages with the same hash result)

>>70781986
Alright thanks, that's pretty grasp-able.

>>70781951
co, did you send me a new pick for the song tourney? Trying to speed this tourney up. Last song was great btw

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Anyone else have any strong opinions on this?

I'm a little conflicted. The more dark ambient and tape loop-type tracks are stellar, but the rapping is occasionally cringe-worthy, however personal it may be. (I'd say "it may seem", but it looks like LUM is pretty serious about this whole mental illness thing.)

>>70782388
i'm totally ok with cringeworthy and boggle already said he liked it so i'll give it a shot i guess
the noise stuff on UA was better than the rap stuff too

>>70782386
If there's no time limit, The Ramayana Monkey Chant, from the Golden Rain release in the Nonesuch Explorer Series

Would recommend Spotify or DLing because there's no good version of YT. This one has the whole thing it seems, but has an annoying vinyl rip crackle:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShZOS5X3kkY

If there is a time limit, Christina by Oblivians:
>https://youtu.be/230aC5xMeVU

>>70782467
UA?

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>>70782538
Oblivion Access
fsr i thought it was called Unknown Access

>>70782538
No limit. Just listened to a second. This sounds crazy

>>70782610
you need a rec from me, right?

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>>70782591
I feel like I have listened to OA, but for the life of me I can't remember any of it

What are your thoughts on Uneven Compromise tho? Usually I find LUM's rapping is sub-par, but I think it's finally just as good as his noise work on UC.

>>70782610
It gets sampled a lot (by at NWW and Mercury Rev, off the top of my head). The whole thing is a little stretched out, but it has truly sublime moments

just had my first solid poop in like a week who tryna high five me

>>70778989
good read

>>70779946
*thinking emoji*

>>70781677
>>70781708
shocking truth!!

>>70782619
Yes, and followingleader, theSound, and drgp. Thanks

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>>70782665
high fucking five

>>70782665
Actually they're not supposed to be solid. It's a myth

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Wait no way this Heinz Kiessling guy did the Sunny theme
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sih5CJRYUk

neat

>>70782648
inspired me to try making some beats based on mod classical or trad samples that u guys will eat the fuck up
tape drops whenever

>>70783211
emphasis on wheNEVER

>>70783211

Holger Czukay already did that in the 60s

>>70782770
annoys me that they cut the intro weirdly later in the series, I always enjoyed listening to it

>>70783280
Holger is a fucking ridiculous name tho

I lubed up the hamster wheel and now Spot has discovered it. She's absolutely crazy about it and has been running in it for about an hour.

>>70782720
Modest Mouse- Baby Blue Sedan

>>70783622
friggin adorable

>>70773999
>From what I've heard from 2017, this is my favorite so far.
fuckin nice.
>From what I've heard from 2017, this is my favorite so far.
i know what track you're talking about, and i'm not going to say it was fully intentional to have that clipping, i did think the beautiful repetition being constantly interrupted worked well with the theme of the album, so i kept it in. glad you liked it either way.

>>70783657
imagine that that one comma is a period k

>>70774412
you should listen to ethyboi's new album!
I think you'd really like it, it's got that early 70's psych folk singer/songwriter vibe that I know u like

I drank like two glasses of wine and I'm pretty drunk. I can't believe this is happening because I haven't really been drinking since new year's. I guess this is how lightweight Americans are.

>>70783653
It really is. Amazed she's actually active instead of sleeping in their little house. Probably hungry, but that's since I'm more or less starving them for training purposes.

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Help me, I can't stop listening to Chopin.

>>70781518
Peanut butter works best in traps, so maybe that. Post pic of mousies pls. (nvm you did, sicc mauz)

>>70781708
>did you know dogs don't actually eat cats like in cartoons?
Stop destroying my world view!!!!!!

>>70781858
Do more jazz on the next one!

>>70782665
>solid poop
wtf who you tryna impress

>>70783698
give a drop or 2 to spot

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>>70783698
> I'm more or less starving them for training purposes
.>:^(

>>70783743
>Peanut butter works best in traps
I tried peanut butter yesterday, they were not a fan. Also apparently it can be pretty fucking bad for mice. More mouse pics on maybe sunday.

>>70783761
Probably not the best idea. Not tht drunk yet.

>>70783779
If they're not hungry, food doesn't work well as positive reward reinforcement. It says so in my beahviour and learning book so it must be true!! (It makes a lot of sense f course)

>dead thred
keep me entertained until gf gets home from work

>>70784417
I fucked yer gf ;)

>>70784431
nice, how was she

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>>70784417
do you like possums

>>70784437
almost as good as yer mom ;)))

>>70784437
hampuss confirmed for cuck xd

>>70784447
No, do you like Rimsky-Korsakov?

>>70784476
>>70784480
ebin xd

>>70784447
do u like pancakes

>>70784505
>do you like Rimsky-Korsakov?
no but I'd like to "rimsky" your moms b-hole

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>>70784505
sorry i bothered you with possums
i dont know what that is

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>>70784532
How bout some Butthoven?

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>>70784551
>he doesn't know Rimsky Korsakov
Bet you recognize this melody tho
https://youtu.be/W3ILbnHhAzk?t=138

>>70784610
<dude what am I doing that's not Rimsky Korsakovs famous piece
I mean to post this fuck I am retarded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QV1RGMLUKE

>>70784577
Check out this short 80s stockhausen docu I just watched the other night. Reading the Philip Glass memoir in which he calls him a douche and now I can't un-see it.

https://youtu.be/qGnkZnm9MPw

>>70784687
>Stockhausen
>A cuntfuck
WOW what a surprise!!

>I heard the piece Aphex Twin of Richard James carefully: I think it would be very helpful if he listens to my work Song Of The Youth, which is electronic music, and a young boy’s voice singing with himself. Because he would then immediately stop with all these post-African repetitions, and he would look for changing tempi and changing rhythms, and he would not allow to repeat any rhythm if it were varied to some extent and if it did not have a direction in its sequence of variations.
The dude wa fucking INSANE when he got old. Might watch doc not right now tho

>>70783743
>Do more jazz on the next one!
I actually already have it made
I think you'll like it. The focus on this one was noise, next one's focus is jazz

>>70784687
>Karlheins sssstockhousen
Wew

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>gf works at bank
>said bank has issues with debit cards all of yesterday, people can't use them
>"""""engineers""""" try to fix the issue
>for some reason makes it so anyone using this bank can withdraw an unlimited amount of money from ATMs
>obviously, they don't have this amount of money
>people are mailing in all day today saying "what? I just withdrew 2000 euro yesterday of cours eI dont have this money .Do I have to pay back? In that case I want to terminate my account"
>trying to terminate an account 2000 euro in debt after you made transactions of money that you don't actually have
>mfw people are actually this stupid and think they'd get away with it

>>70784727
Stockhausen syndrome. Guy had very self-assured opinions

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>>70784727
>mfw post-african repetitions

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Beautiful day for a wall of text ain't it?

>Hank Williams - 40 Greatest Hits
Incredible. Probably some of the best songwriting the country genre has to offer. Yeah, the sound does get slightly tired after (seriously!) forty tracks, but there's no singular stuck-out downer tracks. Pretty much every song here is a joy. Could imagine me quickly wearing this album out 'till I get sick of it.
9

>Jorge Ben - África Brasil
BRASIIIIIIIIL
Energetic, colorful, memorable, and just fucking fun. No reason not to do this dude's bold albums they're all incredible so far. Maybe I'll get bored of this dude soon but today is not that day.
8

>Today Is the Day - Sadness Will Prevail
An incredibly eclectic, abrasive, and raw album with pieces from all over the scale. Mostly based in noisecore, this album. As with any double-experimental-rock-core album, it does have a few stinkers, but they're far and few enough to ignore. I can't promise you'll love this, but you'd be hard-pressed not to take away something you loved.
8

>Swell Maps - ...In "Jane From Occupied Europe"
Gives me a lot of post-Pink Flag Wire feelings which is a great thing. Opening few tracks are whatever, but this album really comes into its own further down the line with a lot of incredible hits again and again. "The Helicopter Spies" and "Big Empty Field" are both incredible highlights.
8

>N.O.D. - Niggaz of Destruction
the s/t track is fucking abysmal, yo. It's memphis horrorcore that bangs though so how you gonna hate on this?
7

>X - Los Angeles
Way too roots-punk for it's own good and about half as creative or abrasive as anyone else would have you believe, but still something here gets at me. It's not much but it's there, dying to come unhinged from this roots-genre. Just listen to Minor Threat idk.
6

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>>70785074

>MONO & World's End Girlfriend - Palmless Prayer / Mass Murder Refrain
Let's be real here. This is a 70 minute GY!BE track with half the creative instrumentation. How many negative things can I say for an album that's such a strong callback to Godspeed-influenced post-rock? Well, for starters, even though the piano/string playing is incredible, the build-up tracks 2 and 4 are really slow-burners. The conclusions to tracks 3 and 5 are both incredible and emotional (despite being so similar) but maybe sometimes it really is about the destination and not the journey?
6

>大象體操 / Elephant Gym - 角度
Japan has made the best twinkly math rock for quite some time now (see the first Fecking Bahamas compilation) but this was waaaay too same-y for it's own good. Half as creative as a japan math rock band like Toe or Uchu Konbini. Not bad just boring.
5

>Camper Van Beethoven - Telephone Free Landslide Victory
Another good songwriter wasted on indie :/. Seriously,
"The Day That Lassie Went to the Moon" and "Take the Skinheads Bowling" are by themselves great tracks that are unfortunately trapped in a shitty genre. Best band name I've heard in a while though.
5

>DJ Rashad - Double Cup
Tracks 1, 2, and 4 are pretty interesting, but honestly this spastic sample work bores me to tears. Perhaps if the samples were more diverse per track or more interesting I could get into this but playing like one sample extremely fast over and over gets old really fucking fast.
4

>Caspar Brötzmann Massaker - Koksofen
Apparently Brotzmann's son's group's best album, which is honestly pretty disheartening. Though I thought I was in for a pleasant surprised when the first track started, but in all honestly this is an album with five ten-minute-plus tracks that are basically a slightly more experimental early NIN. Cool at first, but unnecessary for over an hour.
4

jk everything here is a 2

what next?

>>70780339
you forgot I'm a weirdo when it comes to anything slightly jazzy.

>>70785074
gd Hank Williams and Swell Maps opinions

>>70785103
>"The Day That Lassie Went to the Moon" and "Take the Skinheads Bowling" are by themselves great tracks that are unfortunately trapped in a shitty genre.
don't really get this though, surely if they're good songs they're good songs?

>>70785312
Those two are totally good songs, I was talking about them being trapped in an album of mediocre indie-rock and not necessarily that they themselves are indie-rock.

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Skrillex – Scary Monsters and Nice Sprices

Sonny Moore’s magnus opus is his first release under the moniker Skrillex, Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites. A genre defining release for the modern, heavy dubstep rather far removed from the UK garage music it shares a namesake. The few shared characteristics are the thumping bass and non-conventional rhythms within a 4/4 framework, which is heavily elaborated on this release. Nearly every single ostinato is heavily syncopated and emphasis is always on the off-beats to create an irregular feel while still maintaining serious danceability. Homegrown Native MASSIVE analogues are paired perfectly with pitch shifted vocal samples in glorious harmony.

The main piece here is definitely the title track, which features disturbingly disharmonic synths that manage to create melodies that are at the same time hum-friendly and disturbingly inhumane. The repetitiveness serves as a solid foundation for even these ‘weird’ harmonies to be instantly recognisable not only between listens but within a single listen through. The intertrack dynamic is exciting and leaves a lot of variation that should satisfy any listener.

While a lot of people tend to draw parallels to earlier UK dubstep artists like Benga and SKREAM, I’d say Skrilex takes it all to another level, and is a notch above anyone else before him. Both Benga and SKREAM featured some disharmonic melodies in their writing, but no one dared to go all the way out and found their entire music on the concept, which Skrillex does. Even so, Skrillex is still catchier than either of them, which just solidifies his prowess as a songwriter in a modern electronic dance music landscape.

I would recommend this to anyone who likes avant-garde and wants to consume the latest high art music. This is a great EP, and anyone serious about music should have heard it.

>>70785347
ah right, I was thinking that was a really weird thing to say

Public Image next btw pls bb

>>70785357
PS if u disagre u have shit testae

>>70785357
thanks scaruffi

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>>70785357
>
>>70784910
Everything about that situation is a comedy of errors

>>70785103
raymond scott and techno animal pls

>>70785357
>I would recommend this to anyone who likes avant-garde and wants to consume the latest high art music. This is a great EP, and anyone serious about music should have heard it.
nice to know i was already avant at 14. might stick it on now to see if it holds up, haven't listened in years.

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>>70785449
>he was 14
>in 2010
reported

>>70785103
>Let's be real here. This is a 70 minute GY!BE track with half the creative instrumentation.
Wow, you're literally retarded and/or didn't even listen to the album.

>>70785426
>implying he's not absolutely right

>>70785488
or maybe it's just a really empty crescendocore album?

go listen to more deadmau5

>>70785477
there are SOME people in this general even younger than that, if you could believe it....

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>>70785357
>magnus
I'm shit.

>>70785510
I'm going to assume it's the combination retarded AND didn't listen then.

>>70785477
fuck off old man this is our site now

>>70785528
I mean I was 15 when I started browsing 4chan so I shouldn't really complain. Still, reported.

>>70785525
I assumed this was bait based solely off
>Magnus opus

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>>70785357
>>70785488
>>70785525
hampus to the rescue with that industrial-grade thread resuscitation

>>70785552
It's literally not bait, I'm just drunk and can't write magnum opus.

>>70785554
You know it son (ny moore)

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>>70785525
Sorry you fell for the crescendocore meme buddy

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>>70785525
>>70785488
>hampus defending post-rock and brostep
really hope this isn't an anon b/c this is hilarious

clt would have a field day with this

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>>70785639
ur stoobid

>>70785578
Alright, you're triggering me pretty hard here.

Just because the opening to the first track sounds like that one famous song from Fiss Ass Infinity that's in 28 days later doesn't make this even remotely similar to Godspeed You! Black Shitcock. You've desperately misunderstood this album entirely. Yes, both albums have string sections on them, but they're completely different in composition. Fiss Ass is essentially a rock album slowed down about 200% and played in accompaniment to some instruments that aren't just part of the typical rock trifecta of drums, bass and guitar, but they throw in some strings and "le awkward sounding hollow tube" here and there. There's still no real interplay between the instruments, because they're all playing harmonic passages.

Meanwhile, Mass Murder Refrain goes above and beyond that by far. There's counterpoint here (since you probably doesn't understand what that even means: composition made to make multiple voices (instrumental phrases ("""melodies""")) sound at the same time, but independently). There's development here that's not just in intensity, but in texture. The entire thing is structured around motifs that are not static, but evolve throughout the piece.

Fuck, I don't even know why I'm trying. Enjoy your GY!BE, I'm not gonna stop you.

>>70785639
CLT "Le Kesha defener" sure would.

>>70785639
Clt is just an aut-right shitlord these days, so i heard

>>70785639
brostep and third wave post-rock are more creative than ke$ha and mozart though

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>>70785674
>and mozart though

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>>70785665
>Yes, both albums have string sections on them
that is clearly the only similarity buddy

>implying I don't know what counterpoint is
I've taken an entry-level music theory class. Plenty people have. You're not special.

Someone remind me to review World's end girlfriend's latest album tomorrow. Somehow, I haven't listened to that. Probably because I know it's never going to even approach how good SEVEN IDIOTS is.

>>70785546
>15
enjoy your retrospective ban

cute mouse btw just saw it

>>70785743
forgot trip

>>70785743
Nice trip drop and reply, you sure showed me.

>>70785775
lmao >>70785768 read thread pal

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>>70785074
>(seriously!) forty tracks
whaaaat. I thought there were only 20 tracks

>>70785665
haven't even heard the other album but don't u go talking shit about my Fist Ass Infinity
>le counterpoint
woah slow down there bucko

>>70785794
I did. Literally doesn't matter. You've clearly confounded two very, very different approaches to making music and pretend they're comparable. There's nothing more to say.

>>70785815
Fizzy Ass isn't even that bad, but it's really not comparable to Mass Murder Refrain because they exist in vastly different paradigms of popular/rock music.

sure, there are "songs", but most of them are not as good as Black Rice

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>>70785823
>confounded
too drunk too fast too furious
>>70785849
>in vastly different paradigms of popular/rock music
they're both symphonic post rock bands whats the big deal

>>70785747

what do you think of the lie lay land? its the only WEG record i've heard and i quite like it

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>>70785665
>Hampus thinks he has superior elder knowledge because he knows what counterpoint is
Being a conceited pretentious edge lord is fine but at least have something to show for it.

>>70785948
>too drunk too fast too furious
Not so fast, google the word first to see if you actually understand what it means.

>they're both symphonic post rock bands whats the big deal
l
m
a
o

Mass Murder Refrain is closer to a modern polystylistic approach of music that has its roots (solidly) in rock music while working towards a more classicist quartet inspired approach, which is why the emphasis is on the interplay of instruments (ie the counterpoint, textural development) rather than GY!BE which is centered around a rock paradigm and doesn't deviate from that other than in instrumentation (incorporating strings, drone sound effects, etc). Again, it's not (always) bad music, but you really shouldn't compare the two as such.

>>70786002
I found Lay Lie Land to be pretty flat compared to Hurtbreak Wonderland and SEVEN IDIOTS which both feature much more elaborate orchestration and are generally more developed in both melody and harmony. SEVEN IDIOTS has been one of my favourite, if not the favourite, album of mine for several years now,

Wew I love a good Fish vs drunk hampus dual.

I'm team Fish on this one, fuck him up!

>>70786037
But then it wouldn't be pretentious. WHAT NOW NERD?

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>>70786037
>mfw no one on /mu/ will know enough about something as complex as counterpoint to ever actively accept a challenge by an anon on the topic
>mfw any ol' anon can effectively win a signaling war by making fun of someone for saying "counterpoint"

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>>70786214
>tfw you will never ACTUALLY pick up a book on counterpoint regardless of how many times you tell yourself to do so

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>>70786051
>mfw hamp is right about confounded
>mfw hamp is triggered enough that he forgot I said that I hadn't listened to his stupid school shooter band tho

>>70786238
why waste the effort. like to what end? impress strangers on the internet in unread music reviews? I ain't composin shit

>>70786214
how about i "counter" ur "point" by calling u a faggot huh fagot?

>>70786051
>>70786169
Who cares? No one cares what methods were used to arrive at a conclusion, just the result.

I hadn't even heard MMR before now but skimming through it now it sure sounds a lot like crescendo core.

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>>70786300
I only know confounded because it's a common word in psychological studies.

>mpress strangers on the internet in unread music reviews?
I mean yea :'(

>>70786349
>music escalates in intensity
>therefore it's literally GY!BE
>mfw

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>tfw "crescendocore is a meme" is also a meme

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>mfw I scared away Fishfaggot from the discussion with """complicated""" language even though half of it is either meaningless or doesn't make sense in context

>>70786051
I will concede that it's probably more complex beyond my understanding. I'll give it another listen when I understand the concepts better. I do agree with previous anon >>70786349 that they arrive at similar conclusions through different methods.

Also, don't pretend you're hot shit because you can identify counterpoint.

>>70786473
this

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>mfw all ideas are now channeled through faces when

>>70786398
There are like a handful of popular cresecendocore post-rock bands and one is fucking Explosions in the Sky. Parts 3 and 5 are undoubtably Godspeed influenced no question. Again, I guarentee exactly four people that have heard this album care about the "complexities" you've mentioned. You sound like a proglord dude.

>>70786474
>>70786491
that's a roast

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>>70786307
master-level counter-signaling anon
>>70786498
>complex = prog
wew lad
>>70786474
boy i bet u could make an omelette with all the egg on your face boy

>>70785477
I was too lol

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>>70786517
>pretending he scared me away
I was watching a sbemail buttlord

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>>70786493
>mfw I've read a robin hanson blogpost so now I am a master counter-signaler

>>70786544
shit replied to the wrong post >>70786474

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>>70786491
>>70786544

I'm hot shit because I'm Hampus. Deal with it NERD.

Snibbety-fucking-snap though, you didn't run away. I don't think they arrive at similar conclusions, I don't find them similar at all except from, in some manner, the instrumentation.

>>70786493
>mfw this is true

>>70786498
MMR isn't a crescendocore album. Fiss Ass isn't even, really. Lift Your Skinny dicks, shure.

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>>70786561
mfw ive read an article on counter signalling and i have to let everyone know by calling everything counter signalling becuase dats how a counter signalling master counter signals like seriously guy smhsmh

>>70786498
>fucking
Water you imboggling?
Dude eits have the best twinkle riffs of all time

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Either way, gf is coming home soon so I can't shitpost with you lovelies any more tonight. I'll see you tomorrow :)

>>70786647
what bug is this

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>>70786613
>mfw I've lost what level of irony we're on

well counter-signal'd, m'anon

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>>70786647
see hammy! Love ya!

>>70786613
also, implying anyone would ever write an article about hansonian ass-pulls on a site not hosted by wordpress

>>70786668
Genius Party anime. Watch it, it's great.

GOOD NIGHT

>>70786678
i learnd from the best

>>70786730
good night 2 u2

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>Check daily
>So many new replies
>mfw it's another Hampus episode

>>70785312
Huh, I had no idea that you were. Next time I'll avoid recing you something jazzy.

>>70786788
it was a good run

I've gotta do a pset tho, don't kill the thread while I'm off

>>70786788
You can still rec me jazzy shit if you like but I do tend to be pretty picky with it, I like a fairly specific mix of grooves and freer jazz.

>>70785103
>a slightly more experimental early NIN
if only. but i'll just assume you meant to write "Swans"

>>70784727
>he would look for changing tempi and changing rhythms
eventually he did so Stocky was right/struck a nerdve

>>70787619
no it's not like swans at all

Is there a worse "good song" than American Pie?

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>>70787641
it's boring af so yes it is

>>70787691
I used to love American Pie. Probably the first song I learned on guitar.

Crocodile Rock maybe?

>>70787692
NIN is also extremely boring

>>70787691
"good", what. but Hotel California, regardless of le bowski

>>70787709
I'm going to assume it's the combination retarded AND didn't listen then. [2]

>>70787692
>>70787619
you have the taste of a 14 year old emo girl and you contribute nothing to these threads other than "hey guise I dislike thinge ;))))" why not talk about music for once?

>>70787768
lmao

>>70787775
calm down gira fanboy

>>70787775
>you have [...] taste
yes but what does that have to do with anything
>hey guise I dislike thinge ;))))
isn't that the whole point of daily/mu
y u mad?

i'm actually steady writing fragments for a good handful long-ish reviews of some of my favorite albums or just ones i thought would be interesting, but i never feel like completing them/i suck/no one would care lol

>>70787775
ngl I did have a really similar taste to transcore when I was a mallgoth kid. I found a song the other day that Smosh and I Set My Friends on Fire did together and I remember 13 year old me loved it.

>>70787846
I would care!!

>>70787846
>i suck/no one would care lol
this has never stopped any of us ever before

>>70787768
Hotel California is unironically great. Curious why you'd think a song with a guitar solo that badass is boring.

Real OG's know Peaceful Easy Feeling is the true jam though

>>70787846
I'll care enough to tell you they suck :^)

>>70787893
here's a redpill for you: guitar solos are very rarely a positive factor in a song

>>70787980
Come on, you can do better than a blanket statement. Elaborate

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Look it's this shit again (pic related)

>>70785074
damn those are some good Hank & Jorge opinions. Do you actually like punk, or do you have a weird Minor Threat-specific thing?

ok back to hiding for me, see u all in march

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>>70787980
FOCK YOUUUU

FREEEEEEEE BIIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRDD

SKYNARD OR DEATH!!!!!!!!!!!!1

>>70788019
guitar solos represent the worst pillar of rock music (the attachment of the musician's ego to how "badass" guitar solos are), and generally sound pretty much the same, ESPECIALLY in blues-rock/hard-rock/dad-rock, it's so GOD DAMN predictable
>>70788070
yeah

>>70787980
>spouting generalities in /daily
Haha hold on to your hat idiot

ate a weed feelin w00000000

>>70788022
no but I really don't like OG punk like Ramons/Clash/Sex Pistols and this was too close to that. Hardcore Punk was always more my style.

>>70787893
i-i actually dont know, i'm not trying to base that on any unbiased criticism, i couldn't. it's the generic reason of overplay, to a point where the chorus just kinda pisses me off, regardless of how good it may actually be
which is a fucking weird phenomenon, i mean you can listen to songs about as often by yourself, you don't get that at all, in fact you'll come to love them cuz habituation, sort of. it just has to be the aspect of being involuntary. maybe it's that every time you do listen to a song, you're reminded of every time you've heard it before. that one book on pop music i read brought that up but it seems wholly pseudoscientific to me
well i feel about the same way about the chorus in Karma Police even though i've never heard it on the radio, i don't think

>>70787876
Sex Ed Rocks has a 10/10 hook though

>>70788143
in that case, X will probably just get worse and worse for you, unless you think a country edge would improve their sound

>>70788022
sheit someone who hasn't heard Marquee Moon or a relisten? enjoy anyway

>>70788143
There is nothing wrong with '77 punk , overdose on your drugg bitc

>>70788204
>in that case, X will probably just get worse and worse for you, unless you think a country edge would improve their sound
it actually totally might

>>70788213
>There is nothing wrong with '77 punk
except that it smell like poo poo

Proto-Punk > OG punk any day mang

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>>70788143
>biggest Fishmans fan in the world is a huge stoner
it explains everything