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Pitchfork has apparently retroactively changed the tagging on all the grime albums they've ever reviewed from being "Electronic" to "Hip-Hop". This includes everything going back to 2003 and 2004 with Dizzee Rascal and Ruff Sqwad and instrumental grime compilations too.
In a recent article, they described grime as being "the style of British trap rap with future garage influence that has bubbled up out of the post-Yeezus/Death Grips musical landscape".
What's next? Kode9 and the Spaceape are now hip-hop? The Ragga Twins? Buju Banton is hip-hop? Any jungle or garage or dubstep mix/set with an MC over it is hip-hop?
Just when you thought they couldn't be any more ignorant about club/rave and soundsystem culture (particularly in the context of dance music), they prove you wrong.
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this is the fourth time now
what's your endgame
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Grime is hip hop my man.
>implying hip hop is not dance music
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>>70761378
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDRzDK8ZWYo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL2Bgj-za5k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VDkKWaps70
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-85lY-T26s
Does this sound like hip-hop to you?
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>>70761443
these aren't grime btw
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>>70761443
Yes. They're rapping over a beat. They suck at it but it's still hip-hop.
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>>70761615
MC'ing / rapping didn't come from hip hop, so no
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>>70761644
>MC'ing / rapping didn't come from hip hop
yeah okay bud
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>>70761685
Objectively false
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>>70761706
says you
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Don't you think it's a bigger deal that they are now covering things like Twin Peaks action figures being released, or Beyonce getting pregnant?
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>>70761802
Says every reputable source, critic, historian and musicologist you filthy plebeian.
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>>70761293
ow
>>70761378
like really what else would it be? even rock music is dance music pretty much most upbeat popular forms of music are associated with moving in some way.
It's not like were talking about fucking ambient or noise or even like neo-classical intellectual art bullshit.
jesus christ do people really care this much about fucking genre tags?
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>>70762512
>What is dub
>What is Jamaican Sound Systems
>HipHop was the fusion of American dance music with Jamaican Sound System MCs
"Jamaican-born DJ Clive "Kool Herc" Campbell was highly influential in the pioneering stage of hip hop music. Beginning at Herc's home in a high-rise apartment at 1520 Sedgwick Avenue, the movement later spread across the entire borough.[28] Herc created the blueprint for hip hop music and culture by building upon the Jamaican tradition of impromptu toasting, boastful poetry and speech over music."
Ignorance on this board is reaching peak when you can just literally go on wikipedia on the history of hiphop and know this
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>>70761293
>bubbled up out of the post-Yeezus/Death Grips musical landscape
Summit kek
Can they be more ignorant?
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>>70763046
That's what he said. MC'ing came from Jamaican toasting.
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