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Pitchfork has apparently retroactively changed the tagging on all the grime albums they've ever reviewed from being "Electronic" to "Hip-Hop". This includes everything going back to 2003 and 2004 with Dizzee Rascal and Ruff Sqwad and instrumental grime compilations too.

In a recent article, they described grime as being "the style of British trap rap with future garage influence that has bubbled up out of the post-Yeezus/Death Grips musical landscape".

What's next? Kode9 and the Spaceape are now hip-hop? The Ragga Twins? Buju Banton is hip-hop? Any jungle or garage or dubstep mix/set with an MC over it is hip-hop?


Just when you thought they couldn't be any more ignorant about club/rave and soundsystem culture (particularly in the context of dance music), they prove you wrong.
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>muh britbong memerap
yawn

we had 2 of these threads already
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who gives a shit about what jamaican DJs did 50 years ago?

cringe
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such an interesting topic pls tell me more about it
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Do people seriously think grime is a 2010s thing?
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>talking club music and club culture this seriously

It's literally meant to be background music for normies to drink, fuck, and take drugs to. I can't think of a lower art form than that.
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>>70742338
I mean that's what most pop/rock music in general is treated as by the vast majority so you're not saying much
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>>70742227
>the style of British trap rap with future garage influence that has bubbled up out of the post-Yeezus/Death Grips musical landscape
Is this true? What's the name of the article?
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>>70742365
shut up

EDM is cancer
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Don't you fuckers get it?

The entire genre of electronica is commercial, all electronica is EDM, as it's objectively inferior/cheaper music. It's our degenerate plebeian /mu/ that has tried to make us believe EDM is an "essential" genre and that if you don't like it you must be "narrow-minded", a "rockist" who listens exclusively to "twings and twangs" and there's probably some racial element to it too. EDM music has no staying power. All of EDM is just a neo-disco sub-genre of top-40 pop, with a "mechanical" paint job. This music doesn't stand the test of time, it's a fad. That's why EDM producers are discussed about like fashion. Image/fashion/numbers sold are actually considered when talking about them. EDM is just a really cheap/lazy form of music anyways. The majority of EDM beats are just stealing (MUHH "SAMPLING") another artist's music, looping it over a generic drumbeat while someone throws preset synths over it. The "technical aspects" of EDM are not hard at all. That's why there's 14 year old white girls on YouTube uploading themselves mixing with ease and speed, dropping polyrhythms like it's nothing. But because they don't fit the image of a "EDM fan", no one would take seriously. I've listened to it all from backpacker shit like Basic Channel and Deepchord to the "golden days" of Derrick May and Frankie Knuckles to revival stuff like Mall Grab and Delroy Edwards to the 90s with 4hero and Omi Trio to the CLT approved Mouse on Mars and Autechre to today like DJ Rashad and DJ Spinn. All electronica is EDM. All of it. Stop spamming it. Either keep it contained into one threads or request a containment board. I'm sick of coming on /mu/ and seeing a million DJ Rashad threads (none of which are about music btw).
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>>70742338
I'm glad people like you stay inside all day
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>>70742379
So is most trashy pop music, why separate trashy pop EDM from the rest? It's the same shit. Not all of it is trashy though.
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>>70742410
at least i dont listen to EDM....
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>post-Yeezus/Death Grips musical landscape
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>>70742407
Almost everything /mu/ talks about is commercial. The overwhelming majority of it.
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>>70742425
No different to rock, indie, hip hop, pop...
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ITT: just skengman tings
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>EDMfag claims he's on the same level as me
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>>70742498
Electronica and hip hop are just a subgenre of rock as much as punk or metal are. Via the proxy of modern R&B.

R&B simply set the stage for rock'n'roll to emerge. What was missing (the great drawback of rhythm'n'blues) was true creativity. Rhythm'n'blues (whether vocal or instrumental) was anchored to well-defined structures, that performers challenged only marginally. There were no significant attempts to create free-form structures, to integrate idioms of other cultures, to enlarge the orchestration to new instruments, to radically alter any of the fundamental dogmas of black-music performance. That was indeed the revolution of rock music, which will progressively introduce the traditional European values of innovation and progress into the archaic values of African personal expression.

Indeed, the majority of Electronica and hip hop is a reversion to the stagnation of 40s R&B and 70s Disco. In 30 years time it will seem just as embarrassing and non-artistic as these. Is there contemporary patrician electronic music? In a word, absolutely. But it's represented by avant-garde electroacoustic improvisation and experimental developments using progeria like Supercollider, not by some hack in a warehouse blasting an endless I-I-V-I progression over a disco sample, memerap or ''experimental'' electronica.

Punk 9/10 album: Husker Du - Zen Arcade
Metal 9/10 album: Type O Negative - Deep, Slow, Hard
Hip hop and Electronica 9/10 album: [ERROR NOT FOUND]

Electronica is just a subgenre, anything else is a microgenre and of no relevance to educated music enthusiasts.
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>>70742520
"Electronica" just means whatever the user of the word wants it to mean, I've concluded.
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>>70742520
>Electronica is just a subgenre

Even if that were true, it doesn't change this
>>70742498
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All genres were just marketing terms from when there used to be a record industry.
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>>70742791
>used to be
Lls
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>>70742338
This reads like an insult, but it exposes you as the disgusting shut in you are. >>70742410 is right.
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>>70742520
This is pure gold, please continue sensei.
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Nobody gives a shit, sport.

This is top tier cringe.
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if anything, it's retarded af that they aren't aware of grime being an old thing, like it's not from this decade and didn't grow out of the "post-yeezus/death grips musical landscape"
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>>70742227
they wanna be nigggaaaasss
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>>70743393
you're probably not even cool
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>>70742338
I don't care what it's supposed to be for, I like to listen to it at home while doing things or just not doing anything and actively listening to it
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>>70743949
I'm not. And even then I'm a damn sight above you, you basement faggot.
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>>70742520
>this much effort just to post bait
Step it up senpai
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>when /mu/ thinks there's nothing more to dance music than just """EDM"""
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>>70745002
This bait is about 4 years old lad
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