Why do women pretend to be artists? What do they gain from trying

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>>70590973

>>70591634
what? I didn't understand.

Women value beauty and social validation higher than men do. Women don't have that instinctual drive that men do to explore, push boundaries, hunt.

>>70591680
actually its the opposite

>>70591694
not really though. men invent, discover, create. women want to do that too, but it's rare to see a success

>>70591716
>women want to do that too, but it's rare to see a success
well its hard to that when men have forced them to be mothers since life began!

>>70591716

Men universally create art because they want to compete with other male artists and impress women. Women make art because they like it.

>>70591742
>>70591763
And who's to blame? The evil male patriarchy of course. This site really needs a new containment board.

>>70591742
too bad. if women had the ability to be loyal to a man, marriage wouldn't have had to be invented, to keep them down (and keep children healthy, and not mother/fatherless). But otherwise, they WANT to be mothers, that's their whole purpose. That's why men are so much freer, and create much more value for the human race

>>70591763
Not really true, but even if it was - that means women don't push boundaries, don't actually 'create' anything. they copy what man has already done.

>>70591742
We are wired differently, that's just a fact and there's nothing wrong with it. We're animals after all.

People not realizing this is why birth rates are declining, why divorces get more common and why we have so many frustrated virgins nowadays.

Not saying women can't do art, women do wonderful art, just saying that they're less likely to go out of there way to innovate, they rather create something that is conventionally beautiful.
Men get a certain thrill from stepping away, experimenting and trying new things while women get a certain thrill from being social and having routine in her life/interests.

>>70591947
>Not saying women can't do art, women do wonderful art, just saying that they're less likely to go out of there way to innovate
Because men have made it that way. the moment women stop letting men fuck them. they will progress and take over mark my words

>>70591996
Is it wrong though, do women really have to innovate?
We're one species, does it matter who does what as long as we're moving forward as one?

>>70592081
yes because we have yet to see what the other gender wants to say.
the current feminist movement has just been making art to seek revenge. Once we can get past that sincere art can be made.

>>70591996
they already have taken over and made it so they don't need to do anything. it's a woman's world

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>>70591996
>the moment women stop letting men fuck them. they will progress and take over mark my words
>>70592148
it's a woman's world

didn't know /mu/ was filled with so many delusional feminists

>>70591763
that's completely false you fucking idiot

>>70592218
how is it delusional when majority of males today have ED from jerking to porn mostly because females refuse to fuck them.

why are more women doing better in college than men?

Please show me the great things you have created?

>>70591763
>>70591680
>>70590973

the only honest artists are gay men, prove me wrong.

>>70592218
>feminist
lmao

its obvious that in the western world females have legal, moral, etc-al superiority

they are only inferior biologically ;^)

>>70592115
>>70592295
Yeah, men can be evil but so can women, there's just as much stereotypes for men as there is for women, we made the world the way it is today together, not one specific gender alone and society today is a reflection of nature.

Women nest, men hunt.
That's why women are doing better in college and the guys jerking off to porn are doing that because they can't talk to women and properly understand our differences, they expect women to think and behave like us, that's why they fail.

I'm bisexual myself, I can't hit on and talk to girls the same way I do with guys, we naturally value things differently and in my opinion there's nothing wrong with that.

>how is it delusional when majority of males today have ED from jerking to porn mostly because females refuse to fuck them.

either you're not a man or you were fed estrogen by your hippy feminist mom, you'd know the urges

>why are more women doing better in college than men?

where'd you find that one ? whywomenarebetter.org

>Please show me the great things you have created?

At this point I'm truly hoping you're a girl...
If you're a guy you should probably kill yourself. Kind of useless being a womans bitch.
Who created this world you live in? A man or a woman?

Let's see your little feminists try and take over this world without force.

>>70592594
i'm a different dude.

men made the world. and (in the west) gave all power to women. stupid

>>70592641
They were tired of hearing them nagging all day long so they told them to go out and do something... Men even started that.

>>70592594
>Who created this world you live in? A man or a woman?
again show me what great work YOU have done. every one of u men always like to brag about what other men have done for you.

>>70592783
Well, at least we know you're a woman(or a faggot with a mental disorder) with menial ideologies on work and achievements... Every normal person realizes that working each day no matter what the job is great work in itself. Only fools try to single out each person and are never able to look at the full picture.

To answer your question since you'll keep throwing it at me as if it's giving you some sort of an advantage.My great work is helping this huge gear keep turning and bending my knee for no one.
Now, what is your great work? Protesting a pseudo problem?

>>70593030
literal autism

>this entire thread
[citation needed]

>>70593082
>I have nothing to say but I disagree
>Throw an insult

>>70593137
i have plenty to say and you would consider exactly none of it, so why bother? all you (or your clones) have made are baseless claims that need no refutation

>>70593210
Then say it you faggot. Don't bitch out now because some fucking stranger on the internet is laughing at your ideologies

>>70592783
No offense but I think you're wrong.
I'm a carpenter working for slightly above average pay, no man has ever done anything for me, I even grew up without a father.

I haven't achieved anything "big and great" but I've helped a lot of people through my work. I'm proud of that and I think rightfully so, just as anyone else with a regular job should be.

The problem with feminism is that they want to be "equal" to a already faulty ideology.
The "Go big or go home! Career! Consume"-mentality.

While we're sitting here bitching, there's men and women crawling in the dirt, trying to get ends to meet, I doubt they're blaming the evil patriarchy, I doubt they even care, they're just trying to make the best out of the situation, to live their lives, to be happy. I think many of them are even happier than we are.

Men and women, no one is better than the other and neither is the goal to be better than the other.
The goal is to help each other move forward, accepting our differences, loving each other.

What we're doing right now is just fueling the flames of hatred and I'm genuinely concerned for our collective future.

We shouldn't be striving to become kings and queens, making others do work for us, we should all stand side by side, working together for a better future, that's true equality.

Men are not the enemy, western mentality is and it was created by both men and women. Peace.

>>70593308
what a waste of my time

>>70593341
this is true and there is a huge division of noxious feminism that tries to push the blame squarely on men - but most feminists that you meet will tell you that the blame is on the patriarchy that is reinforced by people of both genders, and the patriarchy is functionally equivalent to what you're referring to as "western mentality" here. but yes, i think you're right, i just feel like you have the terminology a little confused

>>70593387
Where are the problems ? You people keep blaming the patriarchy for all your problems. What are your problems?

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>>70593455
notice how its all men signing on WOMEN ISSUES
if you can't see what the patriarchy does then you're too ignorant

>>70592115
>making art to seek revenge
is this bait?

>>70593536
men elected by women

>>70593536
The last women that has tried to be in that position was Hilary and she was just as fucked as Trump. Quit acting like woman are just automatically barred because of their vaginas. I can assure you that once a truly worthy woman takes a shot at it she will be supported the way she is meant to be.

ITT: pure fucking cancer

>>70593629
And you're a poster child for a perfect human being. We're all cancer.

>>70593387
Sweet, I just wasn't really getting that from what you were saying. But also English isn't my first language.

I don't get why it's still called feminism though if that's your view on things, that's just bound to be misinterpreted.

>>70591961
[Citation Needed]

>>70591634
haha oh wow that bitch literally has mushrooms growing on her. sorry lady but my dominant male self will simply leave your fungal ass for a cleaner more wholesome woman.

>>70593714
Watch National Geographic, read Men are from Mars/Women are from Venus. Look at society, there's a reason things are like they are today.

If we actually were exactly the same then society today would've been perfectly "equal".

>>70591634
Proof women objectify themselves and then bitch when men objectify them.

>>70593767
You should read Friedrich Engels' "The Origin of the Family, Private Property, and the State".