/gg/ guitar bass gen

lmao

>cant form a shoegaze or noise band because only plebs in germany
>have a singer friend who has decent taste and wants to form a band with me
>but cant even find a drummer that is not 100% pleb

and dont get me started on bassists
808 it is

whats the best guitar moves episode


here st vincent explains 12th fret harmonics because of math and science

she sounds kinda like a moron desu

what makes the SG better than the les paul for metal? assuming they have the same pickups?

>>70411702
it looks more satanic

>>70411702
since string tension/scale length/hardware is the same most of the time, literally nothing.

Should I learn all the notes on the fretboard while I'm learning to read sheet music. I can see on the sheet music that I need to play a certain note but I don't know where that is on the neck. Seems like knowing the fretboard would help but the book never mentions it.

>>70411702
probably because it reflects the gayness of metal

>>70411685
Go down your local college music dept and ask around for anyone looking to gig. That's how I found my drummer.

>>70411702
not that you can hear anything under the mountain of dogshit metal dudes have for toanz but SGs are more peaky in the upper midrange and have less bass response than a les paul

les pauls are better for metal imo with a tighter low end for stupid metal chugging

>>70411685
Reminder that guitar is literally the worst instrument to play if your goal is to ever play in a band because you'll never stand out from the ocean of guitarists

>>70411929
>T. Butthurt bedroom player

>>70411929
not if you want to form your own band though, writing and singing your own songs

good luck finding one if you don't though

>>70411799
>chugging
i dont do that gay shit. i like to play the old stuff like megadeth, iron maiden, pantera, w.a.s.p.

>>70411702
Nothing does. The SG is the same as just about any HH config guitar, the pickups it ships out with aren't particularly suited to metal even if I quite like low output pickups for high gain shit. There's nothing giving the SG a leg up over the LP for metal.

>>70411799
>apply distortion
>??? suddenly EQ, response and pickup character go out the window

I would wager that distorted tones give a more vivid projection of the pickup's actual characteristics than the cleans do, which depending on amp and technique can sound much more homogenous, even generic.

>les pauls are better for metal imo with a tighter low end for stupid metal chugging

Did you forget to say "depending on pickups"? Because stock Gibbo configurations are rarely, if ever, tight. At any rate you sound like a faggot who doesn't know anything.

>>70411751
Yeah. Do that. Learning anything never hurts. That applies to anything in life, if you're prepared to go down the rabbit hole

>>70412009
>wasp
>good

>pantera
>no chugs
3/10 bait lad

>>70412001
Still much worse to play guitar because you'll never find a rhythm section. If you play bass or drums and do it well, it's easy to find bandmates, and you'll be more valuable than the guitarist so it won't be hard to get your way. Being a guitarist is a good choice if you just want to do solo studio work, but if you're trying to join a group with it the odds are stacked against you.

>>70412041
>old wasp
>not catchy with awesome tier tone.

>pantera chugs
i think we're talking about 2 different things.

this is the gay shit im talking about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDzt6yI3Dw8

>>70411929
It doesn't matter what instrument you play if you can write your own music. He plays shoegaze meme shit anyway so he doesn't even need a drummer if he doesn't want to play live shows.

>buy a variety pack of dunlop picks to see what one I like the best for buying a big pack of them
>end up liking every single one of them

How do I join or start a band?
I don't know anyone that plays instruments and feel not up to joining one cause I feel like I suck
what do?

>>70411694
The Josh Homme one or the Dean Ween one. The guy who hosts it did something similar with Tosin Abasi, but I think its called something different. That one actually has some juicy information. Although the St. Vincent one had me cringing throughout its entirety.

>>70412214
Practice until you don't feel like you suck.

>>70411694
for nice talking Josh Homme
for comedy Deaner
for feeling like shit cause this man is falling apart: Lemmy

>>70412227
but what if I don't feel like I suck anymore but it turns out I still suck?

Literally no reason for guitarists not to also own and play a bass. Develop stronger fretting, sense of timing and better understanding of what your rhythm section is actually doing and how to emphasize each other.

>>70412314
Find someone to give you critique.

>>70412314
Get on the level with most other guitarists here, and everywhere. Insist youe awesome, get pissy at criticism and advice, call everyone a faggot, retreat to your room and tell yourself everyone sucks besides you. Boom. You're a guitarist.

>>70412338
Ok.

>>70412363
ok but that doesn't get me in a band though

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>that feel when you realize you enjoy more listening to meme shit like The Weeknd while being comfy and designing your band's flyers, facebook banners, photoshoping promos and shit than actually playing the music/your instrument

>>70412448
Sure it does. Get a bassist and drummer like that, a singer like that x10. You're most bands out there.

>>70412509
but wouldn't a band of premadonnas just implode after awhile?

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>>70412363

>>70412521
Usually. Have you seen the music scene in the last 50 years?

>>70412521
most successful bands are arrogant as fuck, you have to be

as long as you get along together

>>70412565
>>70412560
so I just have to be an insufferable douchebag and tell everybody that my flat bend wasn't flat your ears are flat?

>>70412584
>artistic impression

>>70412521
Just be slightly more creative. Paint your faces, be all midgets, wear an unusual mask or costume, so to speak. Something like that but different.

https://youtu.be/Ew8ZqhjM26g

How do I make music like this?

>>70411702
More points

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Friendly reminder that as long as you enjoy the stuff you are playing you are doing OK. Playing shoegaze is just as good as playing jazz as long as you are giving it everything you have.
>>70411694
I like the Julian Lage one and the Theresa Wayman one because they're super comfy. Mary Halvorson is kewl too.
>>70412214
Playing with other musicians is a skill on its own, and it's something everyone needs to practice. Sometimes you just have to go out there and suck so that you can improve. If you have friends that play instruments it would be better to go jam with them so that you can get better together with less judgement.

>>70412584
Sucks but It works. The dont say "selling your soul to the devil" for nothing.

>>70412643
>Friendly reminder that as long as you enjoy the stuff you are playing you are doing OK.
until you get tendinitis

>>70412679
>tendinitis
and the $540 in copays for psychical therapy 'cause you so fucked your arm it won't move.

>>70412679
>>70412726
Take care of your shit man. Eat right, exercise and stretch your hand.

>>70412750
Oh I exercise my arm alright

guys if you can't play Stairway you might as well sell your guitar right now

Is anyone here actually a certified guitar nut? what school do you go to for that?

>>70412956
You drop out of Berklee.

>>70412956
I'm a guitar potato. Does that count?

>>70413047
Or you don't get accepted into Berkeley and then become a music teacher and hate your life
:(

>>70413440
>Berkeley

anon please

>>70413459
I bet that's why they didn't accept me

>>70411657
How do I find decent guitar teachers? So far im thinking

>gumtree
>Facebook
>maybe newspaper

>>70413961
If there's a small guitar shop nearby they might offer lessons, good ones too. Avoid the hobbyists trying to make a few extra quid.

>>70414056
Sometimes you get free lessons with purchases at my local mom and pop, and the bonus is the instructors are from the uni down the street.

>>70414056
thanks will check this out.

>>70414056
>Avoid the hobbyists trying to make a few extra quid

There really are some shit teachers out there. One guy I saw for a while pretty much just wanted to jam for 2 hours, amazing guitarist but I was learning fuck all

>get the dank bass riff on loop
>so dank i don't want to play over it
who /riffmaster/ here? original riffs, do not steal.

>>70414252
upload dat shiet nigga

>>70412194
buy the same pack and you'll have two of each

>>70414252
>not building from and harmonising your basslines to the lead melody

you are no riffmaster to me

>>70414426
No Dan, get depressed and make your own dank riffs.

>>70414471
You know not of my dankness.

>>70414252
>/riffmaster/
only for OSDM or dumb stoner, I can improvise a riff in seconds for these genres.

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>strandberg releasing 5ish new models
>I can't afford them

Reeeeee

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stacking reverbs is fun

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>>70414665

>>70414638
Same here. Not that they're all "good", but I've heard shit on albums and have said to myself, "I'd be embarrassed to put that riff on my album." so i guess it's all subjective

>>70414665
Those things are more hideous than telecasters

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>>70414675
post a clyp lad, I'm too lazy to do it myself but curious

>>70414665
>>70414685
I'm really curious if they do 8 string versions of the Fusion and Classic line (although I don't like "fender finishes"), that's the kind of guitar I'd like.
However I'm also curious about Ibanez (most-likely) releasing the Toastin' Abrasive signature, they're probably going to be at similar pricepoints I guess.

>>70414758
I mostly mentioned OSDM and stoner because that's the only genre where my quickly-improvised riffs sound always at least decent.

>>70414877
https://clyp.it/xxu4rp2n

Don't know why it rercorded so quite, I think I fucked up reaper.

>finally have a successful career with disposable income
>can afford childhood dream gear of a Rick 330 and AC30
>realise it would never leave my 4 walls and ultimately be a hugely expensive toy

Mixed feels. Even if I started gigging again I wouldn't carry that kind of gear around.

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>>70414983
if you let this go on for an hour you can sell it as an ambient record

Should i keep singing https://a.clyp.it/fdeqmrdh.mp3

>>70411694
she is, she's a fucking hack

Josh Homme episode was the best, he's cool, makes great music, and actually showed some neat insight into his style

>>70412222
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMv8739BtiA

it's called Guitar Power, some neat stuff in here too

I'm pretty broke. I like the SG guitar, and there's a guitar shop selling an epiphone g400 standard for $300.

Are the epiphone SG's any good?

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I need your help /gg/. I've been practicing guitar since October of last year, and I've gotten really good, and i want to buy an electric guitar. I want to start making big black inspired noise rock and possibly forming a band with some cohorts. I plan on Orange combo amp, an Interfax Harmonic Percolator, and maybe a swollen pickle mk ii or a boss ds-1. The only thing i'm unsure about is the guitar itself. I'm torn between a Shecter ATX C-1 and a Fender Stratocaster (and yes, i know it's a meme guitar). Currently, i have enough money for the strat and the amp, but i don't know if i should save my money or not. What do the guitarfags think?

tl;dr i've been playing guitar for 4 months and want to make big black-inspired noise rock and i don't know if i should get a Shecter blackjack or a stratocaster

>>70411694
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g-NIaG47jU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlskErEWuRI

this guy is fucking ridiculous, still don't really like his music but holy shit

>>70415221
strat is fine, not a meme. you'll also need a drum machine or drum machine program.

>>70415221
for that kind of music, youd be fine with >100 guitar.

>>70415273
we might already have a drummer. I say might because we've only been talking about it but my friend's friend is a drummer and

>>70415313
well, go on lad

>>70415313
*and we haven't talked to him about it yet

>>70414983
Yeah that's exactly what I was expecting.

>>70415022
Varg did ambiant, look at him now, he's got land and a qt wife.

>>70415011
ultimately the only people who'll care about you buying a guitar you won't really use is people on the internet.

>>70415145
I hate how everyone just discards AAL into the djent-o-core trashbin because of its reputation, there's a lot of techniques I'd like to see in other contexts.

>>70415255
I saw the second video probably a year ago and I realise I've took on a lot of inspiration from this guy in terms of bending. I'm nowhere near that kind of insane playing but the way he uses glissando, bending and vibrato, pushing it to the extreme is really cool. More people should take inspiration from that.

>>70415328
sorry about that, i accidentally hit the post button. Here's the rest of the post >>70415329

>>70415180
they're fine.

aside from the $100 starter bundle shit there is literally nothing wrong with squier or epiphone guitars.

>>70415221
>I've been playing for 4 months
>I've gotten really good

kek

>>70415180
i have one. i really like it. the only thing about it that sucked, at least for me is the tone knobs aren't very responsive, and they don't change the sound that much. great for classic rock or 80's stuff right out of the box.

>>70415255

I enjoy this intro and the autumn leaves part
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2RalGnY4Nk

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hi guys I really like guitars and it sure seems like you all do too
I just wanted to say how much I love learning about, playing, and talking about guitars with you guys :-)

If we all play the Sister Ray riff at the same time you think we can resurrect Lou Reed?

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>>70415405
dont be mean cunt, just bc youve been playing for 6 and still cant read standard notation

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>>70415611
why would you want that

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>all Strandbergs have stock fishman fluence pickups

Reeeee


https://youtu.be/FpYJBrZDRLg

>>70415611
We're gonna need a lot of cocaine...

>>70415653
wrong drug or wrong "musician"

>>70415631
what's wrong with that

they sound great

>>70415665
cocaine is for everyone

>>70415180
G400 pro is the best budget guitar ive played in my 14 years. Its not in the same league as an sg standard, but for $1000 less who cares? Plays wonderful, try a bunch if you can, some have rough frets, but even those arent bad. Really playable, i got my action as low as my picks(tortex yellow) thickness with no buzz or other adjustments. Best stock pickups in a cheap guitar ive ever heard, dony expect high output though.

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>>70415670
It's just I want one and they are all sold out and I am a broke college student

>>70415405
>underestimating autists

i want to start studying ted greene's chord chemistry in depth. should i start with his single note soloing books before moving on to chord chemistry or just dive right into it?

>>70415221
All guitars are memes here. A used strat will work for you.

3 single coils in a strat will give you a different sound than the 2 humbuckers in the shitter. The strat wont give you as thick distortion without more gain. The strat will also buzz a lot with more gain if you only have 1 pick up engaged. The way to get around this is to get a fat strat(bridge humbucker) or mod a strat to have 2 humbuckers(easy, some dollas and some solder).

As far as the ds1 or swollen pickle, theyre different sounds altogether. Ds1 is distortion, swollen pickle is fuzz which is more aggresive. For noise rock i would take a fuzz, itll make ugly chors uglier. The ds1 is also known to drop your signal a little, even at max volume. If youre on a budget you can get some big muffs for $40, the original swollen pickle was a slightly altered muff. The new one is basocally the same with 2 more knobs you dont relly need. Not saying dont get the pickle if you want it, but you can get the muff used to tide you over then sell it for the same price you bought it for.

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>>70414685
>>70415631
>>70415703
>Strandberg Strat

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>>70416193
They made one for the animals as leaders guy (the other one not the black one)

>>70415703
I can't get over the look of those things. It's awful.

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>want to lower action on guitar to make it less bad to play
>now makes loads of buzzing
>try to rectify it
>shit to play again
>literally no inbetween

i swear turning the tuss rod does literally nothing

>>70416247
Meh, it's not the same in HH.

I'd be willing to use that other surf green strand in SSS configuration for some jazz fusion.

>>70416316
Just keep turning it. :^)

>>70416339
everyone keeps saying "turn it only 1/8 at a time" but i must have gone around twice now and nothing has happened to i've got nothing to lose lol

Why are Dunlop primetone picks so much more expensive than their other picks? I got one in a variety pack and I really like it be it's $5 or more just for a 3 pack of them. Are they more expensive to make or something? They are really nice.

>>70416406

i don't know about all of them but the jazz IIIs have a handmade bevel on them. They're nice overpriced imo, the material is just Ultex. They're trying to jump on the boutique picks bandwagon

>>70416316
just replace the neck

>>70414665
>((((berg))))

Explains why the headstock is chopped off.

>>70416444
>handmade bevel

Oh for fuck sakes. Invest a dollar in some 150 grit sandpaper and bevel it yourself.

>>70416492
That's what I'm saying. I would get some finer sandpaper and polish to finish it off too.

Some higher end picks are worth the money because they use a special material but the primetone picks are the same as the cheap ultex picks.

>>70416444
That's disappointing. I wish they weren't expensive they feel REALLY good to play with. I have the standard shape one in .96mm. I wish they made the primetone's in max-grip jaz iii. I might try just getting a 3 pack of the primetone jaz iiis with my order of the carbon fiber max-grip jaz iiis. But that .96 standard shape primetone feels great. I have a dremel I'll try beveling some ultex myself to see if I can get it to feel as good.

>>70416316
Get a straight edge you dolt, you can get one thats good enough For under $4 at lowes or home depot.

And theres more to action than the truss rod.

Get neck straight
Lower action
Check for buzz
Find out cause of buzz
Fix by adjusting action at bridge or nut
If it cant be corrected level and crown frets or add relief to neck and readjust

If your truss rod gets tight before the neck is completely straight youre SOL unless you can replace the neck or replace the truss rod.

Dont just start turning the thing with no end point because youre getting frustated. Its not a magic wand, thats how people break them.

>>70416444
Jazz III is nylon tho. Nylon has like a 3 month lifespan before it gets brittle and cracks. Also, the edge of nylon picks suck. Spend 3$ on a pick that snags strings unless you modify it is dumb

>>70416444
Nvm>>70416898, i just realized you wete refering to the primetone pick

whenever I watch a demo of a guitar pedal online they all have their marshall stacks on 6/7 volume, and they're casually sitting in front of it in their tiny little apartment.
how the fuck is that even possible when I can't put my single speaker fender amp up to 2 without it being way too loud? it's not like their amps all have master volume.

>>70417243
lmao okay guy

>>70417243
Even shitty MGCFX's have master volumes.

>>70417243
>up to 2 without it being way too loud?

No idea but you're in for a nice surprise when you get the chance to play at full blast if you're currently playing at 2. Also get some decent headphones.

>>70416490
It's Swedish you retard

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god damn it why won't Ibanez reissue their late 70s guitars. They could be making a killing.

Want a Bob Weir model so bad.

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>>70417824
>Tfw you'll never own an Allan Holdsworth Ibby

>>70417824

Really nice looking guitar. I'm not a big fan of decorative inlays but the body design and finish on that thing is fab.

>>70415579
i hate the way he talks but idk why

>>70417872
Aren't these basically Roadstars/Blazers?

luv this thread full of teenagers who only play heavy metal and obsess over pretty guitars

>>70417913
I've always disliked Julian Lage because to my ears he plays like a Child Prodigy, too polished and cold. Really though I'm probably just jealous of his mad skills.

>>70417972
lol ikr FUCKIN SYSTEM OF A DOWN is AWESOME

>>70417972
I don't play heavy metal and I like a matte black finish, not the "prettiest" but it just werks
btfo nerd

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>>70417903
It looks kinda neat on this model but the headstock looks really out of place

>>70417974
he talks like an asshole. but i haven't heard anything he's done outside of that episode so i don't know anything about him

>>70412919
I wish I could because I need the money but no one wants to buy my junk :\

>>70417972
t. fender offset numale

>>70417972
I know right, would be a much better thread if it was filled with 30 something year olds who only play dadrock and obsess over ugly guitars

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>Mfw I play jazz on my black Ibanez RG because I listen to all different kinds of genres and not just bl00z and dadrock but metal is my favorite

metal is the most similar to classical than any other genre making it the most complex and better so btfo nerd xD

thinking about getting a jtm45 clone
should I go for it?

>>70417972
Somehow this created more anger than if you shat on offsetters

>>70418276
>t. symphonic dadmetal

>>70418328
Who is making it? I've thought about getting one myself. Saw some nice wood finished ones for around $600 on reverb a while ago ,wish I remembered the maker.

>>70418418
local company, I don't want to order from abroad (dutch). supposedly good reviews from some 2009 forum

>>70418384
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnXUFeFDpoE

>>70416373
>turn it only 1/8 at a time
That's pussy shit. Turn it until you fix it. None of this "turn it .0000000001 Newton Meters then let it rest for a month until the wood settles" shit.

what are the coolest pedals i could get for less than $50?

Give me ONE (1) good example of modern guitar playing. No, Animals as leaders and math rock does not count. Neither does quality playing in traditional styles.

>>70418720
If Animals as Leaders doesn't count then what the shit does?

>>70416898
That's why you get Tortex Jazz IIIs
Nylon anything sucks

>>70416444
Cause the toan is prime

>>70418440
What company?

>>70418720

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgZjkQE4BNE

>>70418720
>implying you won't shit over anything posted because of your preconceived notions

You know you don't have to listen to guitar music if you don't want to

>>70417824
I would support that. I want an ibanez musician bass, their latest basses suck balls. My main concern about reissues would be the quality. They would most likely be made in indonesia and therefore are only good as firewood.

>>70418720
https://youtu.be/X60TfBEAXUc

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how 2 get this

>>70419084
Ask lil Wayne for it

>>70418796

I want to hear something that is not derivative of something done 20 years ago. All that shreddy stuff imo is played out and ultimately boring.

>>70418910

That was okay.

>>70419044

No.

Anyone here got cubital tunnel? I don't even understand how I got that shit and no other guitarist I ever met has complained of it, even if they play longer than me. Fuuuck.

>>70419164
>I want to hear something that is not derivative of something done 20 years ago.

Okay, then show me another guitarist who uses this technique in their music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPiJMrlEXUA

>>70419205
>show me another guitarist who uses this technique in their music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSbxMzEAPGE

>>70419205
Tosin is cool but he needs to lay of the etudes. He needs to fucking rip a killer guitar solo instead of playing the same fucking solo every time.

Even when I cover cafo with my friends I rip a nasty solo instead of his solo

>>70419205

African guitarists, bass and banjo players have been doing that for decades.

Just because he does it in a wanky way that sounds like shit doesn't mean its innovative.

>>70419272
Not exactly the same technique since he just slaps the note with his thumb and hammer on the rest of the notes while Tosin strum every note with the fingers on his right hand. Him and Tosin went to school together, so if anybody else would do it it's him. But Josh Martin is probably the best example of modern guitar playing you're going to get

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BckA4yaz-J0

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>>70418720
>>70419164

>>70419328
>bass

No shit Sherlock, he said he got it from Victor Wooten, that's why I mentioned guitarists

>>70419164
>not derivative of something done 20 years ago.
stop listening to their most known tracks, AAL fans are dumbfucks for the most part.
https://youtu.be/DK2ORatv1cA?list=PLH22-xSMERQolPbs7jGqjLm-5Yl7QhQiT
https://youtu.be/ybVC6pDDZfI?list=PLH22-xSMERQolPbs7jGqjLm-5Yl7QhQiT

>>70419205
>show me another guitarist who uses this technique in their music
Fucking guthrie even slaps dude, it's nothing really new.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwg39a-VOsU
Also I could post myself since I do the thumping stuff now.

>>70419272
>>70419371
I hate how cluttered his music is because his playing is pretty interesting.

>>70419304
I agree, the solo for infinite regression is good along with a couple of other tracks off weightless but he does repeat himself. James Murphy who played with Death and Obituary always had enjoyable solos. I miss late 80s/early 90s metal where lead guitarists said something with their solos, they were a complete musical idea instead of an exercise.

>>70419430
>https://youtu.be/DK2ORatv1cA?list=PLH22-xSMERQolPbs7jGqjLm-5Yl7QhQiT
I don't know how they got that guitar sound, but it's so fucking plastic and shit. New album is a huge letdown to me. It's like they can only put out a good album every other time

>>70419495
I agree, but I don't value production that much, to me as long as it's clear enough to hear notes, it's fine.
I thought the last album was pretty good personally.

>>70419495
That's a nylon string you dumbass

https://youtu.be/4-JfPkV74mc

>>70419569
Obviously it's nylon strings, but it doesn't sound like an actual classical guitar though. Sounds more like they went with some acoustic-electric nylon setup instead of actually miking a classical guitar like they should have. Either way the engineer/producer fucked up hard. It sounds like ass, not at all natural like in the video you posted

>>70419495
>>70419671

Yeah, it sounds like dogshit. Why is it that every technical godshredder always has shit tone? The only exception I can think of is Guthrie.

>>70419304
What's an etude

>>70419716
>The only exception I can think of is Guthrie.
Holdsworth's tone is great too.

>>70411685
Drum machine

>>70419791
electronic attitude

>>70419791
a composition written to practice or demonstrate a technique

want to form a band and play shows but i just moved to a new city and don't know anybody

how do i do this? i'm fairly young and i'm not good but i want to perform with friends

>>70420266
>want to form a band and play shows
>i'm not good

hmmm

>>70419164
Hey show me some new colors. I'm sick of seeing all the same colors. I need to see some new ones. Faggot.

>>70420266
Craigslist.

Find friends, get blown.

Does it take any skill to play shoegaze?

It all sounds the same to me, doesn't seem like there is great variation in the genre.

>>70420718
>Does it take any skill to play shoegaze?
Yes
>It all sounds the same to me,
You must not have a good ear for music.
>doesn't seem like there is great variation in the genre.
Only if you reduce things to
>muh pedals

>>70420434
you dont need technical skill to play shows or even make good music lol, maybe he makes punk stuff

>>70420266
1. Get good
2. Go to local shows and talk to a bunch of people

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I feel like a moron for not buying

>>70420752
>You must not have a good ear for music

Perhaps you're right. Perhaps i just haven't listened to very much shoegaze. But when i listen to other genre's i can easily hear how big a variation there is between artists.

All shoegaze artists just sound the same if you ask me.

>>70420266
Go to shows, FB DIY groups, Craigslist. Find people at said places with similar taste and willing to play like you then ask to jam, see how that turns out and get more people, start a band when you have enough then write, record, play shows. It might take up to a year to get to the last part though

>>70420782
was the headstock snapped off?

>>70420782
>centred dots
>on anything
You did good lad

>>70420718
Fender ss amp w/ reverb>reverb pedal>fuzz>fuzz>fuzz>vacuum cleaner

Thats all you need

>>70420843
It seems like it's just

Guitar pedal: The genre

>>70420875
Youre so short sighted, youve got it all wrong.

Pluralize pedal and youre spot on :^)

>>70420875
>not having the money for everything you want and need in your life

Get your shit together

>>70420928
What do you mean?

>>70420434
Tell that to punk bands

>>70420928
You have horrible reading comprehension my friend.

>>70420754
This is actually partly true

You can't hear a thing in small venues with loud amps and drunk audiences, people can barely make out your singing/playing let alone notice mistakes

What are you faggots working on?

https://clyp.it/oi5nkzwy

>>70420801
>if you ask me.
This is why no one asked you

>>70421422
No reason to get defensive I was just trying to make a point. It's just something you say, stop being pedantic.

is drop C tuning but with the same intervals as E standard a thing? don't want to lose my licks Q_Q

>>70421421
https://clyp.it/0jhyzrkb

Trying to play bass like a bassist instead of a guitarist. Using a pick right now until the plucking blisters heal over again

>>70421574
C standard? Or get a 7 string and drop tune it

>>70421571
>defensive
What?
>just trying to make a point
>It's just something you say
So your point is just meaningless things people say?

>>70421698
What are you trying to discuss? I'm talking about SG, you're going off the handle in a needless discussion about nothing.

>>70421682
>C standard
you just gave me my new go to tuning, thanks man. i love this, only thing i hated about drop C was that all the intervals were different on the bottom strings

>>70421571
>stop being pedantic
Do you know where you are? Youre in the jun/gg/le babby, youre gonna cry

>>70420718
It's not really "musical". It's just noise. It's like if a good painting is eyeball music, shoegaze would be a bunch of paint bullshit blasted all over a canvas. Sure maybe it took effort for the "artist" to blast the bullshit on there how he wanted it, and they could get good at blasting bullshit the way they want. It's just bullshit to someone that can paint like a cat or landscape or something, but others might see it as "art". Especially if they also blast paint on canvases, too.

>>70421421
https://clyp.it/bgzuofp0
>>70422395
tell me this isn't musical
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0B7Z3JERdk

if you define it as unmusical and if you put yourself in a shoegaze box then maybe you end up just making sounds, but you can always combine shoegaze with a bunch of technically intensive arpeggio solos if you want

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>Practice for 2 years
>The best I can do is read tabs and play little bits of songs

>>70422515
see >>70420677

>>70422506
wtf thats not even cringe at all???

>>70422535
I'm not even reading that image until you get rid of Varg's stupid face.

>>70422506
>https://clyp.it/0jhyzrkb
Is JERdk really shoegaze though? It actually sounds kind of good while shit like Loveless is just shit

>>70422608
why do you think i'd take the time out of my day to remove varg's face from it so you deign to look at it and do more than play tabs and wonderwall

>>70422635
Shit, didn't mean to include that link

>>70422395
btw heavy metal is the best music ever xD

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>>70415033
Heres another one
https://a.clyp.it/itjifooj.mp3

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>started playing guitar when I was a teenager
>seemed like a cool way to express yourself musically
>got really good
>considered accomplished even by professionals I sometimes associate with
>as I mature musically I realize writing guitar based music is rudimentary, simplistic and creatively limited compared to the infinite possibilities a laptop based DAW offers now
>as I mature musically I slowly realize how uninteresting most guitar based music actually is
>as I mature socially I come to realize most people have long since stopped caring about guitar based music too
>mfw guitar might as well be an accordion or a harpsichord now
>pic related: mfw I know in my heart I wasted my time on this instrument
>mfw I wish I could have all that time I wasted back
don't end up like me kids, save yourselves from my fate

>>70422696
Fine, I'll do it myself. This had better be good anon.

>>70422515
Don't worry, I've been playing for 8 years and that's all I can do too

>>70422800
I spent much more time, infinitely times more time in front of a computer

>>70422831
Any advice on how to avoid pointless practice?

>>70422897
>asking an obese man for weight loss tips

>>70420928
Try buying yourself some talent

>>70422918
Then you tell me.

>>70411657
>the only way to get tapewound extra long scale bass strings is to special order them (5 string set) and to import them into my country
Now I'll wait for several weeks to get my strings, then have the fingerboard on my fretless leveled and a proper setup done. That seems like way too much trouble.

4-string or 5-string bass?

>>70422992
8

>>70422955
>asking an obese man for weight loss tips

>>70423009
no u

>>70422992
5 string, especially if you don't slap, is literally just more versatile without any actual drawbacks.

>>70423019
Great advice anon, thanks.

>>70423034
np

>>70422897
6 years playing on the same boat reporting
I think i got myself motivated one day i joined a band, i learned a couple songs in a couple days and felt like finally progressing
The drummer guy was a fucking hack and the guy that played the saxophone was talented as fuck but also an irresponsible piece of shit so i got back to my everyday nonsensical noodling

>>70422955
1) practice playing up and down a single string (improv)
2) learn the modes, chords, and scales of C
3) practice playing on two adjacent strings (improv)
4) study intervals (ie counterpoint), both harmonically and melodically
5) practice position playing in the open position
6) practice position playing in other positions
7) practice combination playing
8) repeat with melodic minor in C and then harmonic minor
9) arpeggios
10) triads

>>70423138
How long should I be practicing each day?

How is a fat person supposed to play guitar? I feel like my arms are in an awkward position because the guitar sits like a foot farther away because of ya know my fatness.

>>70423198
You're supposed to play bass

>>70423069
>The drummer guy was a fucking hack
>the guy that played the saxophone was talented as fuck

i know these feels. most drummers are hyperactive or have some other mental issue and are a nightmare to work with. brass players know their shit but are pretty pretentious

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>>70423198
Its easy, instead of putting it down on your legs you rest it across your belly

>>70423198
>>70423214
Fat bassist here, the problem exists on bass as well.
Hang your guitar fairly high, it'll sit at an awkward angle but it'll be playable.

why even practice bass? i mean it's just a simpler guitar that everything can be transferred onto.
the only reason to own one would be if you were the worst guitar player in the group and forced to play bass.
but there are people who esclusively play bass???

>>70423198
Fellow fatty here. It's only awkward if you try to play over your right leg sitting down like most people do. Always wear a strap and play in classical position

>>70423271
(you)

>>70421788
>I'm talking about SG
What are you trying to discuss about it? You just felt like saying it all sounds the same to you?

Do you have a /gg/ related question?

>>70423188
the book says do 15 * 6 = 90 minutes of improv a day (it doesn't explicitly say that, but if you do the math it does) but i say fuck that and just do 15 minutes, and then i do another 15 of dedicated "focus work" on technical/theoretical stuff and then another 30 minutes playing my own songs or whatever i want for fun. the modes are C ionian, D dorian, E phrygian, F lydian, G mixolydian, A aeolian, and B locrian. you can look up those followed by "vamp" on youtube and you'll get some good backing tracks. quist jams are good but they're long, the book says 2-3 minutes per mode and go through every mode however you're improving. a lot of times i run over and do all 6 minutes on a video and i realize i ran over only when the video stops

doing that type of improv and get you better at learning the fretboard too, bc in all those modes they're modes of C, so all the proper notes you will be playing will not be sharps. just the natural notes

>>70423287
i was being semi serious. do bassists consider themselves talented?

>>70423271
It plays lower.

>>70423340
>talented
What does that have to do with anything? Do you mean skilled?

>>70423333
15 * 6 because of every string, btw. forgot to say that

>>70423333
Well, I think I found the problem: I'm a retard and there's a fuckton of terms and musical theories I have to read about now, because I don't know what you're talking about. Where do I read about this shit?

>>70423340
Do you think Jaco pastorius was talented?

>>70423359
sure

How does somebody actually warp a guitar neck?

>>70423435
buy something from gibson

Should I learn guitar before learning bass or does it not matter too much? I don't like chords and small strings much tbqh

>>70423426
Do you consider upright bassists skilled? After all they're just playing big violins. What about tuba players? Etc.

>>70422800
post like these are why shitposting should result in a ban

>>70423271
>>70423340
I find bass (more) fun to play.

True a lot of bassists are ex-guitarists for whatever reason, but it requires a different skillset. Timing has to be immaculate for one and writing interesting grooves is challenging.

>>70423495
yeah we have standards to keep

>>70423420
no you're not retarded, this is my second time reading it. no one's born knowing the terms, i had to look up all of them. it's advancing guitarist by mick goodrick (pdf is in the op, i ended up buying a paper copy bc it's more convenient to read). it's a DO IT YOURSELF BOOK fyi, and there's no tab in the book to speak of. he basically is like a wise sage that tells you what directions you should look but then you walk that way on your own and he's not there to help you get over obstacles. there's a lot of googling and research involved but it definitely broke me past the learning licks phase. i dont know nearly anything the book talks about, and he says even he hasn't scratched the surface of what he brings up in the book. also, it's an iterative book in my experience. if you see something that seems out of your reach, skip it and come back to it the next time you read the book

it doesn't tell you where to play stuff on the guitar bc it doesn't have tab, but it does tell you the notes. so i read it the first time and didn't get too much out of it, then i practiced learning score and i'm getting more this time

>>70423198
You could always lose some weight. .

>>70423608
Fuck you, I try and it doesn't work. Every diet is just a lie to get you to buy their shitty food.

>>70423654
Have you actually tried you know, eating less?

anyone have any jazz guitar pdf's. the ones in the op are hard to read

>>70423654
>diet
lmao go jogging or hit the gym you lazy fag

>>70423562
Is there one particular exercise I should start with?

>>70423682
Some people aren't like you. When I am hungry I eat (since ya know that's how nature works) until I am not hungry. So no I don't just stuff my face all day I eat like the average natural human but for some reason I got cursed with fatness.

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>>70423743
>no I don't just stuff my face all day
>is so overweight hes having trouble holding a guitar

>>70412643
Nice pedals

>>70423766
Whatever, your not fat, therefore you don't know how hard it is. Some people can lose weight others can't its that simple. The genetics shit is real.

>>70423654
>>70423743
Try to eat more rice and vegetables, and drink more water. You'll feel fuller. Also, run for at least 20 minutes each day. If you can't run for 20 minutes straight, do 1 minute of running, 1 minute of walking, and alternate until you've built up the endurance.

>>70423743
caloric expenditure, it's not a curse it's a biological function in all of us

eat less, do more things

>>70423827
I'm gonna fucking kill myself if you don't stop talking about it, just shut the fuck up already. I KNOW I AM FAT THERE IS NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT IT AT THIS POINT

>>70423855
thats what we're hoping for

>>70423855
Emotionally unstable, probably has depression, uses the endorphins that get released when he stuffs his face as a form of self medication.
It's the same pattern with most obese people.

>>70423654
Yeah, fuck me I suppose. But really, i lost a shitload of weight by cutting out doing fat fuck stuff. It sucks but eventually you feel better. No beers every day (i cut it out completely), only eating 1 portion instead of eating till i was stuffed. Drink more water. No soda. I just eat 3 normal size meals a day, and only drink water or seltzer, black coffee no sugar. I do eat donuts and cookies like a fat fuck still if someone gives some to us at work. Which happens once a month... still, Lost 70 lbs. In a year and a half. I'm active, but no dedicated exercise.

>>70423879
ASSHOLE
>>70424027
Yeah thanks for assuming a bunch of shit about me that you don't even know. I'm depressed because people like you have to talk shit about me all day.

>>70424094
Nevermind, he's just trolling and probably not the original fat guy who was asking a question.

Is fixed wah underrated? Certainly seems so.

>>70423879
>>70424027
>>70424047
>>70424148
>>70423841
>>70423766
>>70423716
>>70423682

Thanks for the (you's)

t. 6"1 210lb powerlifter and amateur league football tailback

>>70424231
same

>>70424231
same

>>70424231
same

Is it easy to actually do merzbow covers with just anything?

I use a wah, a crate 17 wat, and a pedal that says deaths metal and has R.I.P, guts, pain, and scream as it's settings.

I feel like something is horribly wrong

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>>70424231
devilish anon, nothing gets the jimmies rustled like a helpless ignorant fatty

>>70423734
the start, which is playing up and down a single string

>>70424231
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAAAbwEtZRo

>>70414665
Is it just my bass-playing autism or does that neck look microscopic? How does one even press down on only one string?

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Am I doing something wrong playing with the groove resting on my left thigh instead of my right? I've never seen anyone playing with it resting on the left while sitting, but it feels so much more natural. Plus I'm 6'3" so my lanklet arms have no trouble reaching the end of the fretboard

>>70424866
Good one roman

>>70424866

classical guitar position will always feel natural on most instruments, but bassists don't use it cause of the length of the neck

if you feel better that way just do it, nothing wrong with it

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>>70424231
>too small to be a lineman
>too fat to be a hb/wr

>>70415255
Yeah same
I like watching interviews with him because he is very insightful and seems like a cool dude

I don't really like his music much either (just kinda not my vibe) even though I can appreciate it and he is incredibly talented

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpPDFofXqsM

I like this one though, he uses some tiny bell and howell amp thats made for amping audio to go with the visual projectors
sounds really nasty

definitely super ry cooder stuff
kinda don't really like ry cooder either cept for the paris texas stuff and southern comfort soundtracks

>>70424926
Don't nfl running backs weigh like 240? If anything 210 is too light.

>>70424919
>but bassists don't use it cause of the length of the neck
I have my bass strapped in classical guitar position. It's not an issue.

new thread

>>70425414

>>70422897
Set goals.
Use a metronome.
Work on the stuff you can't play not the stuff you can.
Practise slowly and gradually increase speed.
Record yourself and work out what sound shit and practice that.