ITT: stuff you just don't 'get' no matter

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I get it. It's just shit.

>>70388329
This

>>70388292
there's nothing to get
it's just hip hop with poor electronic production and quirky loud rapping

>>70388423
>poor electronic production
>poor

explain

>trying to get music
Kek

>>70388500
everything they made except NOTM and TMS sounds very cheesy
everything before NOTM is poorly mixed and most likely wasn't mastered, that's also relevant to Jenny Death
bottomless pit is a technical improvement, but that's all really
it contains even less interesting ideas than any of their previous albums

>>70388292
outkast
they just don't sound good

>>70388789

palate cleanser

>>70388803
>food analogies

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>>70388680
listening to NOTM again right now and there's nothing wrong with the mix here. It sounds pretty good actually.

>>70388810

palate (n.) a person's appreciation of taste and flavor, especially when sophisticated and discriminating.

death grips is shit

>>70388829
that's exactly what I'm saying
it's their only decent album

>>70388758
Literally kys

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I like some black metal but this band is just boring to me and sounds like ass

>>70388900
sorry, I misread your post. really hungry right now.

you guys are fucking retarded everything posted in here so far is accessible as fuck

>>70388870
food analogy (n.) what lazy hacks make

see also: 'like that guy in school/work' analogies, and more banalities

>>70389042
Apparently you're the only one here that thinks that

>>70388977
Go listen to it alone in a forest while it's raining.

I'm being entirely serious.

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This and really everything Kanye, his lyrics are alright but overall it just dull and I find his voice is so monotone. What am I missing here??

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What am I missing? I like this guy's other material but this doesn't really 'grab' me no matter how many time I listen to it. What was he going for when he made this?

>>70389231
is that the pitchfork skrillex guy?

>>70389107
This, there are very specific moods to be able to enjoy some music.

Swans
I've only listened to the Seer so that may be my issue but I just can't do it. I listened to it like two times and I started to enjoy it the second time around but there's nothing on there I would go out of my way to listen to. I will probably give them another chance in a later time.

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>>70389984
Try Filth, its the album that made it all click. The issue with the seer is that it is super long, so try filth, its a lot shorter and better desu.

>>70389984
Chronologically
Please, don't start with the memes of an artist, especially if they're over an hour

>>70390065
It's filled with that pitch range that just hurts your ears, understandable.

>>70389164
You're missing the best album this decade. Sucks to be you man :/

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I just weren't feeling it

>>70390185
I know man, all my friends worship it and im just like ehhhhhh

>>70390313
same, seemed kinda cheap and weak. never felt any real emotion, maybe im just a faggot though

animal collective

>>70388292
kpop and the braindead kpop fanbase

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wheres the appeal in a bunch of mediocre beats that last about a minute each?

>>70390693
>mediocre beats

lmao

>>70388680
god i hate the production on JD

>>70390620
Im a new-ish fan
to explain I like the pop and dance element that they use as like a base, when it comes to their latest records.
They do well with experimenting, and if that doesnt work out their melodies are still great.
When it comes to their older stuff, it's just something different to listen to, such as Danse Manatee and Here Comes the Indian; i hardly know whats going on but it sounds pretty fun at times. Actual fans could tell you how perfect it is, specifically, but all I can accept is that I like the sound.

For projects like MPP and Strawberry Jam it's just good songwriting with room for experimentation. By now it's not really "wow these guys are oddballs!" but rather "ah good ol avey"

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like if you agree

>>70390854
Vinny stop shilling

>>70390897
did you just PRESUME

>>70388292
merzbow. i tried pulse demon and i dont get how people can listen to it

>>70389164
>his lyrics are alright but overall it just dull and I find his voice is so monotone
The thing that makes Kanye albums exceptional is their orgasmic production. He takes a different direction on almost every album. I recommend listening to his discography in order to see how his production evolved, and you'll see why MBDTF is so appraised.
The College Dropout = pitched up soul and gospel samples
Late Registration = similar to CD with live instrumentation and focus on instrumental samples
Graduation = stadium anthems with more electronic beats
808s & Heartbreak = it's in the title. sparse 808 beats with catchy melodies
MBDTF = huge, layered beats with live bass, electric guitars, strings, etc. tons of features
Yeezus = dark industrial inspired
TLOP = ???? honestly not sure

The point i wanted to make was that Kanye really tries to take his production in a different direction on every album and a lot of people think MBDTF was his best direction. It's big, epic, and pretty unique as a hip-hop album. The themes of loneliness and fame also tie it together for me.

>>70391057
Pulse Demon is his worst album. listen to Venereology, Amlux, or Fantail.

>>70388423
this, 100%. the entire artistic importance of death grips is their image, or lackt hereof. it's performance art more than it is music. industrial hip hop blended with punk is only interesting in concept, which is more proof the actual music is secondary.

>>70388810
is this some kind of reddit meme?
food analogies are an analogy like any other

WOULDN'T COMPREHEND THIS SHIT IF I FISTED YOUR BRAIN WITH A DICK

>>70390313
Everyone talks about how the whole album is great but honestly I only liked 2 songs

>>70391677
It helps if you follow it with the lyrics. I didn't like it at first but that was because I couldn't follow the story because I couldn't hear the words.

>>70391702
So it fails on it's own as a piece and requires a lyrics sheet?

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>>70389164
it's orchestral meme rap

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I get the influence and the story behind the band. But at the same time I don't see what makes the music itself that great or worth listening to these days. None of it feels all that cohesive. Tracks don't justify their length with how much simple repetition there is. I get that everything's really sparse cuz muh depressive atmosphere, but then the music's too upbeat all the time and kinda diminishes that. But if the music is upbeat because they were going for a more theatrical goth-like sad, then why are the arrangements so sparse and structures so repetitive?

>>70391797
no, but in order to fully appreciate the (content of the) album one has to follow its story

>>70391057
pulse demon is a meme. try green wheels or flare gun, much better harsh noise material. if you won't like it, don't bother with merzbow

>>70388680
>everything before NOTM is poorly mixed and most likely wasn't mastered

guess how i know you don't know what you're talking about

>>70389984
if you don't like the early noisy stuff, listen to "to be kind" and "the glowing man"

>>70391207
>orgasmic production
It's not "orgasmic" - it's very much average, though in a good sense. The "le best production ever" meme is just an overreaction of a every other rap connoisseur who has listened to nothing but niggers mumbling to a looped beat for years. Kanye just added some actual music to that shit.

>>70392114
Well, have you ever heard the idea that those that are depressed try their best to seem happy, and they're usually "happier" then everyone else? That plays into their music, and the upbeat tone. It's like a dark secret hidden behind a curtain. It's so simple I suppose because it's deconstructed, and much more focused on the feeling they're trying to give off. But this is all just my opinion, and I rather like JD so I'm a little biased.

>>70392353
But the secret's not so dark when the rest of the music has such a sparse sound though. How does the simplicity play into the deconstruction? Please go ahead and elaborate I am genuinely interested seeing as they come from a scene/style of music that I otherwise love yet I have a hard time getting into them.

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Some of their songs are alright, but the vast majority are just straight up boring and samey

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>>70393680
u fukn wot m8

nah I love Unknown Pleasures but for some reason Closer just doesn't resonate nearly as much musically

AnCo is def the number one here, it just doesn't sound good to me at all, like prog, but without wank, just emptiness.

RTJ is probably the second for me. They sound so fucking cheesy, and I don't really get the whole "EL-P beats are GOAT" meme, they feel very monotonous to me.

And also Sufjan (inb4 delet this). He makes pleasant sounding music, but I don't feel any energy in it at all, even AMSP was more energetic than most of his music to me.

slint and qotsa....absolute shit to my ears.

>>70394319
QOTSA is basically the last normal buttrock band. Also Homme can make some kickass riffs.

I'd recommend listening to Them Crooked Vultures if you didn't yet, it's got some alright songs

>>70393791
Closer should have been called Closure.

>>70389984
>listening to 10's swans
>not listening to 90's and 80's
you deserve it all

Animal Collective

>>70388680
When you realize DG haters are the real autists

>>70393830
Well, there's a reason they call him sadjan. At least tell me you can get into some of the tracks on Illinois.

>>70388874
This was a totally dope inquiry. Thank you

>>70394651
>>70394651
me too

>>70388292
You don't have to, and that's the best part.

>>70394639
Yeah, I like quite a lot of it, just not enough to really put it on repeat, like all the bands I like. I also appreciate Age of Adz in a Kid A kind of way.

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>>70388292

>>70388329
this.
i mean it's pretty cool, but i wouldn't rate it higher than 7/10.i can't see what's the whole fuss about

>>70390065
listen to more shoegaze and then come back to it.I never got it either until i got into ethereal wave and dream pop.

...Bob Dylan

>>70395505
>listen to more shoegaze and then come back to it
I have to an extent. I've checked out (and enjoyed for the most part) Ride, Slowdive, LSD and the Search for God, Swirlies, Candy Claws, most blackgaze outfits, various japgaze, Sweet Trip, some noise pop, some dream pop, etc. Maybe I haven't dived far enough

Pussy

>>70395782
oh well, i'm not that deep into shoegaze either.
Maybe try checking out some albums from the loveless branch on pic related. especially Curve - Doppelganger.
if that doesn't work maybe Loveless just isn't for you.
good luck with that anyway.

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>>70396021
forgot pic

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>>70395811

>>70395811
Honestly, If they sold something that was like a really a pussy but didn't have a women attached, that would be nice.

>>70396021
>>70396040
Thanks my dude, seems pretty thorough, I'll certainly check these albums out. but I think it is that loveless isn't for me. Happy trails

>>70396065
they do

>>70396065

have you heard of a fleshlight my dude

>>70392321
he's right though

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Radiohead in general. They don't have any interesting melodies or hooks and every song is in mid-tempo without any particular rhythms

Creep is the only song I find acceptable.

Maybe it's the lyrics but without good melodies I don't give a fuck about the lyrics.

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I can listen to and enjoy Young Thug, Lil Yachty, etc. but I just can't get into DS2 (or anything else Future has put out).

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This album just puts me to sleep every time, there's nothing interesting about it

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I tried but I just dont get it

>>70391207
OH WOW HES SO FUCKING UNIQUE HE TRIES TO MAKE EVERY ALBUM IN A DIFFERENT STYLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jesus you Kanyefags are just living in a different dimension. There should be a religion called kanyeism. Your praise for him is absurd. Its a fucking farse. Im so triggered by every post making kanye look as he was some walking da vinci of the 21st century (inb4 BEECOZ HE FOCKIN IS YOU STUPID FEGGGET YOU DONT UNDDERRRATAND HIM). Fuck you, hes just a fucking nigger that got some mainstream attention that handles music production. Fuck you. You kanyefags are the worst, even worse than scaruffifags, rymfags and stevealbinifags combined x333

Butthole surfers

>>70392262
>Green Wheels
I'm listening to this right now, and while I hate to be that guy, it's literally just a scattered assortment of noises. What is there to get? Where's the skill and artistry?

>>70397545
>You kanyefags are the worst
but deathgripsfags exist

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>>70388292
Abuse ketamine and/or psychedelics and/or benadryl
You'll Cowards otherwise

>>70397148
It's kinda like huffing paint. Your stupid friends are doing it , so you want to try 'cuz you wanna belong or be cool but you aren't sniffing the toxic fumes hard enough because your senses tell you its harmful to your brain, but you get a buzz and your friends are memeing like its the best thing ever so you try again and again till you've burned out as much as brain cells as you have self-esteem and sense of quality that you enjoy it just as much as stupid friends, but by now they are smoking crack and listening to Death Grips.

Kids, don't do drugs. D.a.r.e.

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I'm pretty sure it's actually just bad.

>>70397981
Try and ignore the absurd vocals and appreciate the music behind it - then listen to the vocals again and realise their abstract bizarre nature means they are the only vocals that would fit.

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>>70388292

>>70396399
b8

>>70396761
I love its brilliant use of empty space. Maybe post rock isn't your thing.

>>70397648
There is now a very little percentile of dg worshippers. People enjoy dg but dont praise them anymore as much as they praise this fucking cuntye

>>70389231
look at the music videos for that.
not joking but it really did get me a better idea of the very inorganic, synthesized aesthetic he was going for in the album. I was uncertain the first few listens but it has since become one of my personal favourite albums of the 2010's so far

>>70389164
Listen for production, Kanye's rapping and singing are sub par but damn is he a good procuder

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>>70397545
holy fucking shit dude

>>70398408
>thinks kanyefags are idiots
>"reeeeee edgyyyyy"

>>70398026
>Does them being the only kind that fits justify them being there in the first place? No.....
This album is bad but kind of funny cookie zappa-y so it gets a pass because its not fr srsnss

>>70398291
he doesn't produce himself

>>70398489
this
he used to, but the production on his earlier albums is mediocre
the production on his latest albums is amazing, but it's made by other people

>>70398408
He's a retarded /pol/tard but he's half right, most of the praise showered on Kanye is mundane as fuck. Kanye's just your average day shitty pop musician.

>>70397981
try to appreciate the fact that this album is so unpredictable and chaotic.
It's a really nice listen after grinding through similar albums day and night.

>>70398489
>>70398615
Fuck I didn't believe you guys but it's true. The moment his started having other people help produce or produce entirely is the moment that Kanye started releasing music I enjoy :(

>>70392092
basically an embodiment of social anxiety, paranoia and unsureness found in 20-somethings around the turn of the century

>>70389164
all these people people saying it has good production doesn't stop it from being boring as shit. I don't think I've made it 5 tracks in before stopping.

>>70389984
I can understand this, I'm still amazed that I was able to sit through and enjoy The Seer (the track) on my first listen. All the noise just felt good; when I had to pause it to get a snack or go to the bathroom it felt like audio blue balls.

>>70394624
this

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>>70390185
Although not technically an album, I find exmilitary to be a greater record.

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>>70388292
nig nog recitation "music"

>>70399646
>blackie and dalek rip-off
>a greater record of this decade
shit taste in dg albums

>>70397981
listen to it while keeping in mind that it's actually very carefully composed. It's not "random". Beefheart almost literally kept his band hostage until they could play it perfectly.

>>70399705
just because it's a rip-off doesn't mean it's bad

Emo rock in general.

>>70397551
It's the musical equivalent of a shitpost.

>>70388789
Just that one? Try Hex; or Printing the Infernal Method, specifically if you've read Blood Meridian, great atmosphere.

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It could partially be the obscene hyperbole, the mythology and the worship for this guy. It comes off a little too strong and I don't think there was any way it could live up to the lofty things I had heard. I'm more confused by it all

>>70399130
>>70392092
why do people fucking try to explain albums with the "concept" behind it? even if you're not a 20-something at the turn of the millenium, i'm sure you can still appreciate the fantastic music that's on this album.

incredible basslines, angular and dissonant verse melodies that resolve to catchy and melodic choruses, incredible climaxes and interludes across the entire album.

how can you listen to the city and dislike it?

>>70400371
i actually somewhat agree with this.

his compositions are pretty average, he was a good guitarist but at the end of the day it was just "muh pentatonic and blues scale" over and over with an above average sense of melody.

his use of effects was interesting for the time but how can anyone praise it beyond that? technically speaking he was pretty average as well

>>70400756
This might seem super condescending but I honestly don't think the guy's music has anything to do with his praise. Rock enthusiasts have long maintained this ongoing narrative about rock's history and its influence and he makes a pretty compelling character and martyr in that story. He embodies the time period and he's larger than life enough that they can prop him up as some sort of avatar for rockist values.

>>70399646
My fav rap record actually so woo senpai <3

>>70390693
If you think Donuts is mediocre what do you consider good?

>>70393791
Closer is by far better

>>70393680
That only really applies to Unknown Pleasures and you just kind of have to give it time, I still think Day of the Lords and Insight are dull but the rest are pretty amazing

>>70397939
>benadryl
>not robitussin
enjoy vomiting all night

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I just can't into dissonance

>>70389984
Check out Children of God. It's fantastic

>>70403231
Are there any tracks liked at all? Not trying to come off as snarky or anything, just genuinely curious

>>70403005
>throwing up
>on benadryl
Dude cough syrup is way more likely to make you vomit. Couldn't tell you how many hours I've spent puking my guts up from cough syrup, but not once have I thrown up on benadryl, even when I'd taken it with some syrup.

>tfw don't even feel like a real, live person
>tfw feel like there's a layer of separation between your conscious experience and the physical world
>tfw completely oblivious to everything and stuck in your head, surprised when you grab a burning hot pan and burn your hand

Anyways I don't get hip hop, it just sounds lame to me. I don't think I really care much for vocals being so clear most of the time, and clear vocals in hip hop just seems like a requirement. I don't wanna hear people's voices, man.

>>70405227
Oh yeah, definitely. I thought King Kunta, Wesley's Theory and the Blacker the Berry were pretty good, but still weren't as good as the songs I liked off of GKMC.

But all the moments of dissonance on the album kept me from liking it. Instituionalized is a great example of this; the entire song is just completely incoherent. It's jarring and just unharmonic. Other examples are the "I can feel your vibe" bridge on u, or the entire disaster that was For Free?

However, I credit this to my own inability to get into the dissonant harmonies and strange rhythms inherent to jazz, rather than any issue with the album itself. It honestly just sounds like noise to me. I thought untitled, umastered was a much better album, and it's probably because it's more accessible. Or at least it is to me.

>>70405746
>I don't think I really care much for vocals being so clear most of the time, and clear vocals in hip hop just seems like a requirement
Listen to cLOUDDEAD while tripping and prepare yourself

>>70389164
You're missing yourself. Kanye is an expression of ourselves.

>>70405907
Yeah I get what you mean. It took me a lot of listens for me to enjoy the album as a whole and even then it still sort of throws me off. Personally I felt the album was somewhat, I don't know, self-indulgent? Moments like the interview with Tupac at the very end are an example of this

>>70407108
I've listened to TPAB probably 20-25 times now trying to get it, so chances are I never will. I've certainly stopped trying, because none of those were very enjoyable listens. I'm just still having a hard time coming to grips with hating an album that seems to be universally acclaimed. I keep feeling like I'm missing out. But I suppose at the end of the day we all have our tastes.

I might come back to it in a few years again. It took that long a break for me to get into Yeezus, for example. But for now, I'll just keep bumping untitled, unmastered when I feel like some melodic jazz rap.

>>70389984
To Be Kind is better. Clearer production and it's more explosive. The Seer is more of a slow burner.

>>70390313
You just have to be super depressed for it. It's not very effective otherwise.

most folk stuff like bon iver, sun kil moon, sufjan stevens, etc.

>>70389984
play it louder

not even memeing

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This album is good, but it's so painfully inconsistent and mundane. I might be missing something, but I can't see how it's so universally praised.

>>70405907
I know what you mean actually, I really liked the album but on repeat listens there were only a few songs I would come back to.

>>70388680
You don't know what mastering is.

>>70388329
You don't get it then.

>>70392621
Not him, but I only got into JD after I got into Interpol. Something about appreciating the interplay between the guitar/bass/drums on Turn On The Bright Lights made Unknown Pleasures click for me

Radiohead

I like pretty much every other alt rock band but can't stand any of their stuff, even the hits.

>>70400756
>technically speaking he was pretty average as well

can respect others' opinions but really struggling on this one. he was technically phenomenal especially considering the minimal theory he knew. listen to Voodoo Child again and tell me that's pretty average

>>70388680
true

>>70409862
The hits are shit tho, that's the point.

You listen to the whole albums until you form an emotional bond with them. I know that sounds pretentious and why would you ever force yourself to listen to something you don't get, but after a few listens some songs start to get to you. They write alright songs that sound different one from another, have awesome textures and don't always follow the norm

>>70400371
>>70400756
>>70400828
Do you even 420?

>>70388292
sufjan stevens

>>70411315
Yes. It doesn't improve his music and, even if it did, music that requires narcotic support to enjoy is bad.

>>70411904
Pretty sure you need to take Ambien with the weed to mellow out if you can't listen to Hendrix without thinking of scales. Geez.

>>70400371
Had he hooked up with a real group, like imagine Hendrix with the p-funk crew, that could've been phenomenal

>>70412426
Jimi was always about Jimi though. Can't see how an act would work.