Is Sister Ray the first Heavy Metal song? Or at least, Porto

fuck off metal baby

definitely Porto-Metal

Wow never heard of this ! Thanks OP ! Very obscure ! :)

It's a me, Mario!

I don't know if it's Porto metal but at the very least it was extremely influential on post outhouse

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>>70228967
>noise=metal

>>70228976
>>70228993
>>70228996
Excuse me what are you trying to prove

obviously Porto-Metal

Once again the Velvet Underground were beaten by the Beatles, who introduced the deliberate use of feedback to rock music in 1964

obviously Porto-Metal

>>70229057
>this

>>70229057
But not Heavy Metal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8jOhqOsouM

>>70229109
It was porto metal

>>70228967
Metal songs had already been made by then, sorry m8...The Velvets were anything but metal anyway, that's noise rock...metal is one of the very few genres of music they had little influence on (mainly because it was a garbage subgenre for a very long time until the late 80's when death/doom/sludge and the like took off which are more in like with the Velvets)

>>70228967
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU5uDozoSSM

Any good metal bands from Portugal?

no, syster ray actually sounds good.
if it sounded atrocious, then yes.

>>70228967
>Helter Skelter what's that?

>>70229057
beatles fanboys are so insecure
>>70229234
this seems accurate

>>70229307
At least we are musically intelligent

>>70229306
>Yfw Sister Ray came out before Helter Skelter.

>>70229057

Nope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucTg6rZJCu4

>>70229340
>yfw Helter Skelter sounds like proto-metal but Sister ray doesn't

>>70229375
That's not rock music, it's surf

>>70229284
>This came out 14 days before White Light/White Heat
Works for me

>>70229377
neither of them sound like "proto metal"

The obvious predecessors to metal are bands like Led Zeppelin, Blue Cheer, Deep Purple, and The Who, not The Beatles or TVU.

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>>70229498
Incorrect.

The established musical parameters of the genre are all present in Helter Skleter

>>70229565
Just being realistic. It's a lot more likely that the early metal bands got their inspiration from various "hard rock" or heavier versions of psychedelic rock than from a single Beatles song (which I still don't believe sounds like a "proto-metal" song, but whatever). There are certainly genres that you can give credit to the Beatles for influencing but I don't think there's a great case to be made for their impact on metal.

>>70229668
Except Ozzy Osborn was a Beatles obsessive

>>70229406
surf is a subgenre of rock

its fair to differentiate it from the blues/R&B-based rock that was popular at the time but it's absolutely still rock

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>>70229375

>>70229057
>>70229093
>>70229331
You zealot Beatles fans are retarded. Link Wray and other rock artists were using feedback before The Beatles.
>>70229406
This is the stupidest thing I've read on here all day. It's called surf ROCK.

>>70229762
surf =/= rock

Try again.

>>70229780
It's called surf ROCK. It's a rock n roll subgenre. Stop posting.

>>70229057
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucTg6rZJCu4

>>70229809
>It's called surf ROCK
No, we are discussing surf, not surf rock.

Try again.

Helter Skelter

>>70229818
Surf music is a subgenre of rock music associated with surf culture, particularly as found in Southern California. It was especially popular from 1962 to 1964 in two major forms.[11]

its proto punk

>>70229818
this is like saying that psychedelic rock isn't rock, it's psychedelia. makes no sense

>>70229843
>surf culture, particularly as found in Southern California
Not what we are discussing, is it? The Beatles were not a Surf band
>>70229865
psychedelic rock =/= psychedelia so you are not making much sense

>>70229896
>psychedelic rock =/= psychedelia
Okay let me clarify

psychedelic rock is part of a larger culture called "psychedelia"

surf rock is part of a larger culture called "surf culture"

both are still subgenres of rock music, the fact that they are influenced by other subcultures does not exclude them from the rock n roll genre

i mean most critics that I know of would classify Link Wray and Dick Dale as rock music so this isn't some controversial point I'm arguing.

>>70230012
OK I admit I am pretending to be retarded

>>70230043
fair enough

>>70228967
Obviously Porto-Metal, a lot of the soloing uses a very Portuguese scale.

>>70230150
Just wondering if I could successfully defend the feedback thing. I can't but I do stand by Helter Skelter as proto-metal

little walter was the first artist to use feedback