ITT post shitty meme albums that /mu/ tricked you into listening

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Lazer Guided Melodies is so much better

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>>70119431
This so much.

>>70119431
He said no bait.

Madvillainy
anything by Mark Kozelek
77 Live
Sunbather

Any hip hop album

Fuck you faggots like such shit music

>>70119367
>Posts ultimate pleb filter
>Pleb confirmed

>>70119649
This

Spiderland

god it is so fucking bad

>>70120102
OP said no bait

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>>70120102
>>70120176

IAOTS
Not baiting. I genuinely do not see the appeal. Is it just a meme or do most people here really love this album?

>>70120256
You don't think the lyrics are good or the instrumentation interesting?

>>70120256
It's pretty good, but not extraordinary.
It's a meme album but people like it.

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>>70119649
This except unironically.

>>70120256
It's unironically the most powerful and most emotionally evoking album I've ever heard. The imagery is too good.

>>70120089
>Laughs about pleb filters
>Complains about hip hop

Mmmm ok sweetie.

>>70119457
??? why would it be bait

>>70120416
Hip hop at its core does not and cannot have the same artistic integrity or depth as literally any other genre of music. It's superficial nigger trash.

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>>70120416
The irony of this post, good Lord.

>>70120416
>he listens to hip hop
>implying anyone besides him is a pleb

>>70121007
wut?

>>70119407
the first song is good right?

>>70121043
not the same anon but this album is honestly shit
4.5/10

>>70121007
EVERYTHINGSAD

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>>70119463
OP said no bait
atleast 3 of you are baiting

>>70121007
>>>>>>>>>>>>>no bait

>>70121049
Yes

>>70120089
>trout mask replica is somehow "high brow" music

kekekekekekekekekekek KYS

>>70121074
thats like one of the three ITT thats not baiting lol

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I expected something great but all I got was normie, mainstream, generic nigger noise.

>>70120176
>spiderland
>no bait

no.

>>70121170
that's the worst Kanye album
also
>nigger noise
>>>/pol/

>>70119367
This album is for cocaine addicts

>>70120102
Biggest piece of memeshit I have ever heard. Music for fucking losers.

>>70121326
>gets triggered by nigger
>>>/t/umblr

>>70121380
>everyone who disagrees with me goes to Tumblr
>>>/pol/
>>>/r/eddit

>>70121407
>everyone who disagrees with me is a nazi from /pol/
>>>/f/acebook

>>70121433
>I'm not sure what to say now
>>>/po/

>>70120496
I wish I could watch you stand on a street corner in my city holding a sign with that post written on it.

>>70121380
>>70121433

the cringe

>>70119367
this
this
this

>>70121170
I guarantee nobody who knew shit from fuck rec'd that to you

>>70119367
>>70119455

I feel genuinely bad for you in a kind and nurturing way. I hope you are able to enjoy these someday.

>>70121007
This.
Worst /mu/-core other than MBDTF.

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I just don't get it.

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Somebody said I should start swans and it's the worst fucking one
Early swans > the seer >>>>>>>>>>>>> everything else > my father will guide me

>>70123096
Prospect Hummer was the only good thing they ever released.

>>70122939
it's literally just a good pop album with lots of guitar noise. there's not really anything to get. did you at least listen to it with decent equipment?

>>70123169
Yeah it's alright, it's just that the lo-fi gimmick doesn't do anything for me.

>>70122939
>>70123096
poor fools

>>70123169
>good
>pop album

go back to your contained thread pls

>>70120371
Hit the nail on the head. Few albums can do this so well.

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Absolutely shit album. Its just a knockoff of the Ramones, but somehow shittier.

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>>70124882
>Hard mode: no bait.

>>70119649
Go listen bruce springsteen you poser

That Froot album. What a crock of shit that was.

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>>70122939
I take personal offense at all of your opinions
Take it back and fucking apologize right now

>>70121094
Came here to post this.

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>>70127968
These are also correct answers.

>>70120364
This doesn't belong here though.

>>70119367
>I know TMR because of /mu/
Are you 12?

>>70122939
Same here.

>>70122889
you forgot Pinkerton

>>70123017
well, that one is certainly bad compared to their other works

>>70120256
be here longer

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>itt fuck you I hate it

Agree:
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>>70121007

Disagree:
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>>70131576

Not sure if agree or disagree:
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>>70124232

Haven't listened:
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>>70124882

>>70123289
Lo-fi? Loveless is not "lo-fi" in any way. Noisey or busy, sure, but the production is very detailed.

>>70131576
You have to listen to it while you're in a good mood

>>70131576
>>70131770
Yeah, you definitely need to go into it wanting to like it and you have to be happy

Why do people think TMR is a "meme album"? It has been widely praised by critics (even normie outlets like Rolling Stone) for decades, but people here act like its this otherwise unknown album that is only relevant because of Scaruffi.

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i don't care about the lyrics but musically it's just bland

>>70121326
Fuck off nu-male go be politically correct on reddit

>>70132037
lmao ur so mad

>>70123289
>Lo-fi

>>70126624
What fucking trash
Her threads are almost as bad as k pop threads

>>70122939
I love the production and soundcrafting but the songs seem a bit generic to me.

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>>70131576
agreed

>it's a people only post mu-core albums to trigger other people thread
Ughhh does everyone listen to the same shit here??????

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you fucking faggots i sat there for 2 fucking hours listening to every goddamned second of this shit

>>70122939
"only shallow"? more like "only good song on the album"!
>>70123096
listen to it louder

>>70126624
grimes a shit

>>70120291
Meh I guess. It just doesn't appeal to me at all.

>>70119367
>>70120364
Agree completely.

>>70122939
This wasn't so much bad as it was just boring.

>>70134797
/mu/core is shit, what else is new?

>>70120364
This desu

>>70121094
No b8

>>70136305
This

>>70136667
I'm not baiting, it's the worst album I've ever heard in my life. It's Avril Lavigne tier garbage. Actually calling it garbage would be overrating it. It's the equivalent of crap taking a crap taking a crap. If purgatory exists it's this putrid album. I'm not a censor but if I were I would want every copy of this album burned. William Hung singing she bangs is better. Actually, anything is better.

>>70120364
You can dislike it but it's moronic to say it's a terrible album

>>70120256
When I started getting into better music it was a stepping stone of sorts I guess. Now it's been so long it's like a childhood memory. I still like it and occasionally pull it out.

>>70137412
But what's the actual problem with the music? You forgot to mention that.

>>70137605
His singing voice is irritating, the songs are boring, and there is no dynamic range. Also, pitch issues.

>>70137676
>irritating
It's OK to be a normie, so I'll let this slide
>the songs are boring
What's boring about them?
>and there is no dynamic range
The songs literally range from solo acoustic performances to a full band with distortion on every instrument, so this is not true
>pitch issues.
Like what?

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>>70137716
not him but jeff does struggle with singing off pitch on higher notes a lot on that album

>>70123017
For me it was every Swans album. I thought "oh surely this will be the good one." I didn't like any of them at all.

>>70137716
>solo acoustic performances
>distortion on every instrument
Even the solo acoustic performance are compressed as hell it sounds bad and has no dynamics. And the distortion on the drums and acoustic guitar is absolute cringe, we all know this.There is no dynamics on this album. I want a crest factor of at least 8db throughout the whole album and this album stays smaller past 5 for most of it, no dynamics.

No cool chords, the syncopations don't groove, the melodies are so predictable and weak.

Jeff is goes sharp on a lot of notes. Don't say he doesn't because he does. I could tell you exact notes in different songs but I don't feel like listening to it again. I've suffered enough.

>>70137873
this

>>70137716
Also, let me explain it this way. If someone were to make an album that contained everything I hate in music and only the things I hate, ITAOTS would be the album. There is nothing on this album that I don't absolutely hate.

>>70137716
Not that guy but I don't think you understand dynamic range. Just read about the loudness war or something. IAOTS has notoriously bad dynamic range though. You could argue that it's a stylistic lo-fi choice, but honestly, it just makes it sound horrible. That said, you might like burzum if you're into it.

http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list?artist=neutral+milk+hotel&album=

>>70137916
>Even the solo acoustic performance are compressed as hell
That's fine.
>has no dynamics.
So? Dynamics aren't necessary
>And the distortion on the drums and acoustic guitar is absolute cringe
How so?
>There is no dynamics on this album
The songs literally range from solo acoustic performances to a full band with distortion on every instrument, so this is not true
>I want a crest factor of only what I want and not the artist!
Not how it works

>No cool chords
Modulating between major and minor and breaking key isn't cool?
>the syncopations don't groove
They aren't a groove band so this is not a reasonable rubric, is it?
>the melodies are so predictable
How so? Chart it out and show us
>Jeff is goes sharp on a lot of notes
Which ones? Chart them out and show us.
>I could tell you exact notes in different songs but I don't feel like listening to it again. I've suffered enough.
If you can't prove it, it's not true.

So, so far, the only valid criticism you can come up with is that his voice is irritating. That's really not that much. Again, you are just b8ing or a biog musical pussy.
>>70138012
That sounds like a problem with you, not the album.

What would an album with everything you like sound like? Would it be Lateralus?

>>70138078
I don't think you understand artistic intent

i respect you as individuals but i don't agree with your opinions
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>/mu/core thread in disguise

>>70138085
>That's fine.
no hypercompression is bad, if the crest factor is not higher than at least 7, it sucks
>dynamics aren't nessesary
yes they are, Ian Shepherd said it best when he said all music can benefit from having more dynamics
>The songs literally range from solo acoustic performances to a full band with distortion on every instrument, so this is not true
I'm talking crest factor, not instrumental variety
>Not how it works
yes it is, the artist is wrong if he squashes his tracks lower than 6 db crest factor, most mastering engineers will agree with this

>Modulating between major and minor and breaking key isn't cool?
not cool enough, I need bigger chords, more suspended chords
>They aren't a groove band so this is not a reasonable rubric, is it?
You're confusing dance music with the overall groove. Most, if not all of rock music has it's own groove, if it's not in the pocket then it's not working.
>If you can't prove it, it's not true.
I have proved it in previous threads, look in the archives, just because you deny that it's true doesn't mean it's not true.

>>70138078
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4ll0iYPyoY

>>70138354
>no hypercompression is bad
Why?
>yes they are
Why?
>yes it is, the artist is wrong if...
Why?
>I need bigger chords, more suspended chords
So more complex =/= better? Yikes,
>if not all of rock music has it's own groove,
This is not rock music. You might be confusing lo-fi fuzz-folk with rock music
>I have proved it in previous threads, look in the archives, just because you deny that it's true doesn't mean it's not true.
Ooops that's not timestamps of off notes. Try again.

>>70138354
>What would an album with everything you like sound like? Would it be Lateralus?
No, it would be this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4ll0iYPyoY

>>70138522
Oh soullessness defined?

>>70138166
The volume compression was definitely not artistic intent. it's just incompetent sound engineering, maybe even technical incompetence on the bands part. To be honest, I liked this album a lot growing up, but listening to it now, the compression is outrageous. Are you listening out laptop speakers? that could be your problem. I bet if there was a recording of IAOTS without the compression to compare against, you'd realize that there is no way this was artistic intent, and if it was, it was a horrible mistake.

>>70138354
Thanks for the link. This isn't totally my thing, but man, it's nice on the ears.

>>70138657
>The volume compression was definitely not artistic intent
[citation needed]
>Are you listening out laptop speakers?
haha no.
>you'd realize that there is no way this was artistic intent, and if it was, it was a horrible mistake.
They literally said it was on purpose. When it was remastered, it stayed the same volume
>but man, it's nice on the ears.
Wow what a pussy. Just turn it down

>>70138657
>>70138354

Holy shit, Just got to the Clifford Brown cover, dang, this is my thing after all.

>>70138464
Why?
Would you want your record to sound like someones scratching a chalkboard the whole time? If you would you should probably go get help.
>So more complex =/= better? Yikes,
more complex = less boring
>This is not rock music. You might be confusing lo-fi fuzz-folk with rock music
it's indie folk, which is a direct descendent of indie rock
>Ooops that's not timestamps of off notes. Try again.
You want timestamps? Look in rebeccablacktech.com/mu

>>70138642
I'd argue that it's more soulful than anything put out by any indie folk or soul artist. And I love soul music. Bu tas an example, I would rather listen to New York Voices cover of Earth Wind and Fire's That's the Way Of The World. I find it less boring than the original.

>boring
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vIIZydXDqg

>freaking incredible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwTajmA_ycs

>>70138692
>They literally said it was on purpose. When it was remastered, it stayed the same volume
I'd guess it was because they had no other choice. The master copy was lost or the masters were already compressed. Anyways, if you like the compression, power to you. It's not my thing.
>Wow what a pussy. Just turn it down
As opposed to IAOTS, where the compression hurts at any volume. I'll leave it at: that's my opinion. I'm outta here now.

>>70119555
Shit opinion. I don't get this at all. Anyone who's actually heard what a fucking vacuum cleaner sounds like knows its nothing like shoegaze. Stop repeating this shit meme.

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jesus i got fucked in a rec thread with this.

>>70138808
>someones scratching a chalkboard the whole time?
No we are talking about dynamics. Please stay on task. You have yet to tell me why a thing an artist intentionally did to make their album sound ore powerful is "bad". Sorry it's not white guys playing faux jazz
>more complex = less boring
more complex = ruined ambience
>it's indie folk
Which is why groove is not necessary. Do you think they're the rolling stones?
>You want timestamps? Look in rebeccablacktech.com/mu
Not a timestamp, try again.
>>70138808
>here let me talk about myself for awhile
I don't care
>>70139057
>I'd guess it was because they had no other choice. The master copy was lost or the masters were already compressed
[citation needed]
>As opposed to IAOTS, where the compression hurts at any volume
You can still turn it down, you pussy

ITT: Contrarians

>>70139965
>more powerful
but anon it's less powerful, by cutting off the transients theres no room for the peaks to hit you harder. Squaring of the entire signal makes it sound annoying and impotent, like someone scratching a chalkboard.
>more complex = ruined ambience
Wait, what? I've never heard anyone say this in my entire life. It doesn't even make sense.
>Which is why groove is not necessary. Do you think they're the rolling stones?
As a subgenre of indie rock it should at groove a little bit no matter how simple it is.
>Not a timestamp, try again.
Stop being lazy and go to the archives.

>>let me talk about myself for awhile
Actually I'm talking about music, not myself

>>70140138
>but anon it's less powerful, by cutting off the transients theres no room for the peaks to hit you harder
That's ok, it's just hitting you hard the whole time. Not all music is supposed to be dynamic, it's error to think otherwise
>annoying
Subjective, irrelevant
>I've never heard anyone say this in my entire life
Oh you don't know what minimalism is? Punk music?
>it should at groove
Music should have to do anything. Maybe that's what makes this album groundbreaking, it shatters your expectations of what music should be.
>Stop being lazy
It;s literally your argument, you need to prove it. I already know he didn't flub any notes, it's not necessary for me to look up what doesn't exist
>Actually I'm talking about music, not myself
You mean all the references to "well what I like in music is..." isn't about you?

Of course it is.

So far the only valid argument you can come up with is Jeff having an annoying voice. That's fine. But don't pretend there are faults that simply isn't there.

>>70138085
You know when someone calls something crigetheir argument sucks

>>70119431
I disagree, but I also think people who think this is better than Seer or Glowing Man are wrong.

>>70140386
>That's ok, it's just hitting you hard the whole time. Not all music is supposed to be dynamic, it's error to think otherwise
No it's not an error, Ian shepherd said all music can benefit from having dynamics. How can a squared of signal hit you harder if the transients are not peaking? This doesn't make any sense.
>Punk music?
How the hell is punk music ambient? Again you're not making sense.
>Music should have to do anything. Maybe that's what makes this album groundbreaking, it shatters your expectations of what music should be.
We're not debating whether it's groundbreaking we're debating whether it's good.
>I already know he didn't flub any notes
stop b8ing, you know that's a lie,
>You mean all the references to "well what I like in music is..." isn't about you?
Who's ears am i supposed to use to listen to music? yours? All music listening is about human perception.

>But don't pretend there are faults that simply isn't there.
But there are faults there. You're refusing to admit the flaws because you like them.

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FUCKING THIS

>>70137951
fuck off

>>70119367
I was going to agree but it's shittiness is what makes it good

>>70123096
I like the album now, but I hated it for a long time because I tried getting into AnCo with this album, and it bored me to tears. I tried Strawberry Jam next and enjoyed it a lot, and that just made me think MPP was even more boring.

>>70140675
>Ian shepherd said
Who cares. He's not the artist.
>How the hell is punk music ambient?
I didn't say it was
>We're not debating whether it's groundbreaking we're debating whether it's good.
You don't thin it's good to break ground?
>stop b8ing, you know that's a lie,
You can't prove otherwise
>But there are faults there. You're refusing to admit the flaws because you like them.
If I like them, they aren't faults, are they? Who's ears am i supposed to use to listen to music? yours? All music listening is about human perception.

>>70141122
>Who cares. He's not the artist.
He's a mastering engineer, mastering is a very important part the record making process. At least take into consideration what he and many other mastering engineers are saying. Actually I recommend you join us for this years Dynamic Range Day, Ian does a podcast every year demonstrating the benefits of dynamic range and gives prizes and awards to artists who use more dynamic range.
>You don't thin it's good to break ground?
Only if things change for the better. if they change for the worse it's not good.
For example Mariah Carey's self titled album is a ground breaking album that's good.
ITAOTS is a groundbreaking album that sucks.
>You can't prove otherwise
What do you mean i can't? I did years ago. You're just not willing to look up my posts from when I did.

>>70141344
>He's a mastering engineer, mastering is a very important part the record making process
Right. And ITAOTS was mastered a specific way intentionally, instructed by the artist. Whether you like it or not or what some random guy outside of the creative process thinks is not relevant. There is no right or wrong with art.
>At least take into consideration what he and many other mastering engineers are saying
The "Loudness Wars" does not take into account artistic intent, albums that desire to be loud at any volume. Have you ever seen a band live before? Are there dynamics? Not as much. It's presumptuous to say art NEEDS to be any way than what the artist wants.
>Actually I recommend you join us for this years Dynamic Range Day
>So Ian can tell us how music is supposed to sound
lol Have you ever heard the unmastered Oasis albums? They sound bad. They sound lifeless and wussy. Their albums were mastered a certain way as a part of a certain aesthetic. You are free to not like it, but you can't say it "wrong".
>if I don't like it, it sucks!
Not how it works
>What do you mean i can't? I did years ago. You're just not willing to look up my posts from when I did.
That's not a time stamp. Try again.

>>70121910
>"people would physically harm you for having that opinion therefore it's wrong"

>>70131184
you leave pinkerton out of this

>There is no right or wrong with art.
>They sound bad
To you they sound bad. To me they sound great. You just said there is no right or wrong with art so then it must not be wrong for them to have dynamic range.

Have you ever seen a band live before? Are there dynamics? Not as much.
Actually there is plenty of dynamics (crest factor) in live performances. Probably more so than studio recordings because of the increased headroom of a good live setup.

>Not how it works
Actually, that's exactly how it works. Music listening is all about human perceptionListen to what you like, avoid what yo don't.

>That's not a time stamp. Try again.
Stop asking me to hand feed you a time stamp. Let's just agree that we hear the album differently.

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>>70141719
>>There is no right or wrong with art.

>>70141746
What is this supposed to mean?

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Kinda reminds me of In the Aeroplane Over the Sea, but somehow manages to be even more pretentious and boring.

>>70141719
t. Manhattan Transfer fan