/daily/ - "psychology is pseudoscience" edition edition

>>69900800
Memed.

>>69900795
What's a "meme".

>>69900835
my son watches "meme"

>>69900832
with you it's occasionally hard to discern when you're pretending to be stupid from when you're being genuine tbf

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>>69900835
The meme will get you in your sleep
Now you're already in too deep
Soon you won't have anywhere to run
But don't you know, we'll have lots of fun

>>69900875
Yeah that's called autism.

>>69900874
If that was my son I'd beat the shit out of him desu.

>>69900885
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Poe's_Law

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JOIN TOURNEY 7 SPOTS LEFT
Be sure to check the restrictions listed for each round before you rec.
All these existing entrants joined in the discord server where i was letting people there join first.
No reserving, you must join with an album

>>69900912
Is this poseurcore?

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>>69900912
for picopop

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>>69900904
>rationalwiki

>>69900795
while you're mostly correct i don't think the need that psychology tries to fulfill is bad. what psychology needs is a complete overhaul.
also, reich was onto something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDzSp5MABl4

>>69900953
lul

>>69900912
http://www.altemarecords.jp/release/altm_025/
this is picopop i think

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>>69900912
this is the previous tourney for reference,
rym is https://rateyourmusic.com/~ricebeansandegg

otherwise im excited myself since i bought renoise for real and i'm gonna try and learn music production, made a song before with it but never did anything else

>>69900947
added, thanks

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>>69900953
the sex particle guy?
his wiki was entertaining iirc
what was he onto?

>>69900885
was this movie good

>>69900912

>Zolo

https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B5_%D0%B8%D0%B3%D1%80%D1%8B/%D1%81%D0%BC%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%B2_%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B0/

>>69900950
sometimes one forgets that hitler was actually p effay
>>69901057
it's neat, one of the more intense horror films of the last couple of years. atmosphere reminded me a bit of The Witch in terms of being complete miserable. it's pitch black.

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>>69901057
It's okay but the child actor is absolute fucking garbage. He's supposed to be like a super disobedient and annoying kid, but it's even more annoying how much his performance detracts from the film as a whole.

I'm rewatching it right now because I'm at my mum's and I can only see stuff that's on Netflix SE. The story is decent and it feels a bit different from most horror films, fairly original. The cinematography is great, lighting is spot on to build atmosphere. But it's really not... scary. So I guess it fails as a horror film. I like that it's not a jumpscarefest.

>>69901126
I haven't seen the witch either, would you recommend it as well?

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>>69900912
In

>>69900912
Dunno if this is """idm""" but do Autechre - elseq1

>>69901126
inb4 someone says "of course he was, Hugo Boss designed the Nazi uniforms!!!"

>>69901154
The VVitch was absolutely better than Babadook.

>>69901161
Is this loss?

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>>69900912
okay now that I'm reserved my real rec is for Zolo

>Fred Frith - Gravity

>>69901181
>>69900947
>>69901070
added
>>69901161
what genre is this for
>>69901006
ill allow it

>>69901224
>what genre is this for
I woops'd and also

>>69901203
this instead

>>69901053
while orgone theory is uncertain because it was completely shut down his work on body armour and how both the body and mind should be taken into consideration is surprisingly ignored.

Does anyone else hate how the term "psychological horror" gets applied to everything that isn't just a straight up jumpscare marathon? Like, as soon as a film has any semblance of greater atmosphere, it's "psychological" horror. Fuck that. A real psychological horror film should really get under your skin and disturb you from inside. Make you fear for your own insecurities and phobias instead of what's shown on the screen.

GLITCH POP ONLY REMAINS 2 SPOTS LEFT

>>69901152
So I've heard, but even though I have not watched many horror films, I can't really think of any really "scary" either. I love some with great atmosphere like the thing but they don't scare me much.
>>69901185
I'll give priority to the VVitch then. Hopefully I'll watch it this evening, or maybe both of them even.

>>69901260
I hate that horror just sucks in general as a genre.

Also yes psychological horror is a way overused term. Jacob's Ladder and Black Swan are probably the only films, maybe a few others that I can't think of off the top of my head, that would actually fit into that category for me.

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>>69901324
Enjoy, I thought witch was really quite good with the exception of the end which I wasn't the biggest fan of.

>>69901337
But horror is the best genre.

>no comments on the beautiful, classical design Barcelona chair in OP
/daily/ has bad taste in everything including chairs. Prove me wrong.

>>69901372
>horror is the best genre.
you mean it would be the best genre if it didn't suck?

Because mostly it sucks.

>>69901410
Horror is the only genre that's fucking great across the spectrum of quality. "Bad" horror films are great because they're tacky and hilarious. "Good" horror films are great because they often have original ideas and good direction. I feel like horror films, even mainstream ones, can be a bit more daring in their writing and production, because that's sort of expected from the genre.

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>>69901409
What about this chair?

captcha: humps stop

>>69901466
Horror is also the genre with the most skewed ratio of unwatchable trash to actually watchable not trash. It's like 300:1.

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>>69901487
>proving me right by not posting an actual chair and instead trying to make a joke
Nice one. Here's my dream chair. Expensive as fuck though, so I won't afford it for I dunno, at least 10-15 years.

>>69901494
I think you missed the entire point. Bad horror is still watchable and fun. The only horror that's unwatchable is the mediocre stuff, but there isn't really much of that produced, since the vast majority is utter shite and hilarious.

>>69901559
Nice chair.

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Novelty Condom: Oscar Peterson - Nigerian Marketplace

Very good live album. Tracks are consistent, players are swingin' and the title track of the album is one helluva good tune. While this album is a solid af release, it unfortunately does not advance cause I thought Rudi's rec was better. Still ace stuff though.

Rudi: Johannes Brahms - Symphonie No. 4 (Kleiber)

Ah, a release with all the classic German Romance traits. Powerful, emotional and well crafted. All of these traits lie in the hands of a composer, an orchestra and a conductor; and they use these traits to their advantage to create some damn fine stuff. Rudi advances.


also, posting crappy new letterboxd account again for any nerds who might have em

http://letterboxd.com/Washizu/

>>69901559
>but there isn't really much of that produced,
You're lucky to have lived a life totally sheltered from the big bad Hollywood & Associates trope machine. I envy you.

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Morning daily, boxing day clothes shopping on the agenda.
Maybe do a Coltrane or some other shit.

>>69900912
spot pls

>>69901559
looks like a chair for squares
don't you want to lean back sometimes?

>>69901646
>>69901277
nvm fuck glitch pop
unless this counts:
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/ep/oval/szenariodisk/

>>69901629
FUCK

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>>69901588
Shame that it costs like 5000 euro.

>tfw forever poor and won't afford designer chairs

>>69901640
>he thinks hollywood produces a majority of the horror films
Bwahaha

>>69901652
It's a chair, not a recliner for lowbrows like you.

>>69901646
gotta rec to get, the remaining 2 spots are glitch pop

>>69901559
o what good would it do me to be a chair expert if i can but watch pictures of nice chairs but not afford them for years

>>69901629
Still no restrictions?
If so, Jlin - Dark Energy

>>69901678
>https://rateyourmusic.com/release/ep/oval/szenariodisk/
no that dont count

>>69901694
>Bwahaha
>& Associates
:^) nice brain there Grumpus

seriously horror is 99.99% totally forgettable trash bin-tier not even worth watching stuff.

>>69901749
99.99% of horror is produced on a low budget and is hilarious. Just because you only watch hollywood films doesn't mean that's all that exists.

Name a genre with a higher ratio of watchable to unwatchable films than horror, I dare you.

>>69901700
You can feel superior to people who have never even considered the design of chairs.

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these are the 2 remaining spots, glitch pop
unless someone recs while im uploading this

>>69901792
>Name a genre with a higher ratio of watchable to unwatchable films than horror, I dare you.
Romcom.

>>69901794
Your Infamous Harp - Prah Suomafni Ruoy

>>69901807
Wew nicely memed.

>>69901792
hmmm that's a lot of people to mock!
i must think it over

>>69901845
added yes, was hoping you'd join

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>>69901889
I would recommend this as good introductory literature. If you find you're not too interested in chairs and mocking people who don't care, it's good coffee table literature. Bitches love good coffee table literature.

>>69901866
: ) ty

>>69901916
the chair equivalent to "1000 albums you must hear before you die"?

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>>69901972
Nah, the couple who wrote that book are actually an authority on design and design history. It's a good browse through and IIRC it also talks a bit about how various design decisions came about (as in technology making new molding techniques available and such), but I might be confusing it with another book I read at the library.

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1 spot left
who will get it?

>>69902041
it does look nice, i think i'll look for it in a library as well
i've been memed!

>>69902159
Enjoy your newfound unwarranted sense of superiority!

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Richard Abrams - Levels and Degrees of Light (theSound) vs Pere Ubu - Dub Housing (rym robot man)
Richard Abrams' piece is very rich in sound palettes, offers a lot, but I guess I prefer something more shaped and structured. Still enjoyable though.
Was slightly cold towards Pere Ubu's vocals, but the rest is really, really good. That's something else and it probably will grow on me even more.

Nasenbluten - 100% No Soul Guaranteed (chmod177) vs Wipers - Youth Of America (rym robot man)
Not only I didn't like Nasenbluten, bc I don't like speedcore/gabber, whatever this is called, I just genuinely think it's bad. It kinda reminds me of Combichrist (which is p bad), only it's worse.
Wipers are amazing, the most pleasant punk rock guitars I've heard so far.

>>69901712
boi hold on a second

I'll post the restrictions when all the winners are known

or maybe at least all the winners on the right side

>>69902291
>Robots are obliterating people
is this how the singularity begins?

>>69902291
GOD fucking damnit
you all have shit taste!?

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>>69902433
Guess I'll have to give another chance to pathetic humans in the next round!

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>>69902488
yeah right

>>69902112
Olga Bell - Tempo

>>69902516
shut up

>>69902520
andd added.
thanks

tourney is full

>>69902433
Almost 2017, still believing in the singularity.
Are you guys serious? Go read some Ponty please.

If psychology is a pseudo-science, why is operant and classical conditioning used to train humans at any given task? Why do we have empirically verified methods of treating mental illness? How did we find out that humans are subject to unconscious urges and desires? How is it possible to treat ANY ailment of mind and emotion?

Why? Because psychology is a real method of learning about the human mind and brain. Is it a soft science? Yes. Is all literature in the field useful and valid? No. Have we found out real facts of our reality and information from the study? Yes.

Psychology is not a pseudo-science, it is a soft science. There is a huge difference.

>>69902568
heck, don't take ANYTHING that serious

>>69902516
Put your real trip back on cunt.

>>69902568
Psychology is a harder science than physics. One fallaciates to abstraction, while the other is grounded in the concrete reality of human experience (which is the only way we know anything, btw).

>>69902516
>>69902606
>sausage fella.png
Never mind, my mistake. Heretic.

>>69902598
Just giving a rebuttal.

>>69902609
Well that's nonsense.

t. work in the mental health field

>>69902629
Read your Kant, please.

>>69902629
which is fucking unneeded

>>69902626
I am but a mere meme stealer / stealer of memes

>>69902657
Show me in his work where he says that psychology is a harder science than physics.

Anon, that is a stupid fucking statement and no amount of twisting your underclassmen philosophy requirement reading is going to change that. I work in the field, physics is a harder science than psychology, you're a retard.

>>69902679
I'll let you know when I care about your opinion.

>>6990268
Anything we learn speculatively, must first enter into the categories of understanding, (implemented by the brain in Kant's system).
Try understanding him before you call others out. Why do you think post-Kantians created phenomenology as a methodology?

Cause there is always the I, mediating experience. If you abstract from this, you may get useful results but it is an abstraction which cannot apply to the world of particulars we exist in.

>>69902773
You study others in legitimate psychology you fuckhead. Jesus christ dude, learn the limits of your understanding and act accordingly.

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>>69901629
While I am gutted, that album is excellent and I wholeheartedly admit defeat.
... :(

>>69901792
When a horror movie it is good, it is excellent. When it is not good, it is entertainingly bad. Horror is a genre that needs to be done very well to allow enough suspension of disbelief to engage with; when the suspension fails, the films easily allow themselves for mockery. That's why some of the best ones are cheesy/silly and still capable of great filmwork/scares. Evil Dead will always be my fave horror.

>>69902568
Hard to develop concrete theories on the abstract human mind - a lot of psychology can be seen as subjective in the sense that it isn't universal. It's a framework still and will be because it works on the functioning of the mind, including outside the physiology thereof.

today i drank 15 beers and ate three steaks
Merry christmas

>>69902810
A person isn't an abstraction.... lololol

>>69902854
Neither is physics you nig

>>69902873
...............................................................Physics only exists through the mediation of the I. Jesus, you just don't understand.

>>69902889
You are so balls deep in underclassman philosophy that you are out of touch with reality. This is easily the most insufferable phase that any slightly above average person goes through.

Physics is a harder science than psychology. This is fact and you refuse to accept it.

>>69902889
You're not fooling anyone Sdc.

>>69902932
You think your right, and thats fine. The insults are a bit tedious. Just a quick thing to ponder, if you'll indulge me.

Mathematics is a quantitative science. That is it reduces all qualitative phenomenon (the objects of experience) to a number which is devoid of quality. This is an abstraction. You took a concrete individual and turned it in to a universal.

Physics uses math to get general trends of smaller level phenomenon. So

Other humans are part of experience, not an abstraction. Many diseases classifications are abstractions, however the set of phenomenon is part of experience.

>>69903066
>That is it reduces all qualitative phenomenon (the objects of experience) to a number which is devoid of quality. This is an abstraction. You took a concrete individual and turned it in to a universal.
That's not how mathematics works

>>69900795
>>69900988

psychology is left wing pseudoscience though

if the left wing didnt ruin it with behaviorism it would possibly be a good addition to the human academic arsenal

>>69903100
heck, what a pointless discussion

buncha nerds itt.... whens the last time you upsmashed a bitch?

>>69903104
Are you high? Behaviorism is literally the most valid branch of psychology. It is the only branch that can actually be considered a hard science.

>>69903100
I disagree with you. Maybe you could convince me, though.

>>69903130
L M A O

>>69903119
I'm fucking sorry okay
>>69903121
shut up
>>69903134
I couldn't, shit I hate myself today

>>69903130
Materialism has been dead for 200 years, when you going to acknowledge the death?

>>69903130
then why did Trump win?

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Post actual quality designs instead of gaudy leather shit if we're gonna act like chair snobs

>>69903154
no u
>>69903177
only thing quality about this post is those digits

>>69903121
SMashed a cunt for punching one of my female friends in the back of the head a few years back but

>>69903066
and any criticisms you have apply far more to psychology than physics. Anon, no academics in either field would agree with you. You're the one going against scientific and academic consensus because you stroke your penor to Kant

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dicks lmao

>>69902568
it's a pseudoscience because the truth is that psychology only really dares to deal with surface reality, which also happens to be the most effective form of treatment. if you're willing to give up your level of awareness and humanity to become a successful human robot then you're all good, that's the idea.
in terms of dealing with the actual mind it can never deal with it in terms of the current treatment which is very behaviourism centric.

why do you think conditions like schizophrenia are generally incurable?
all forms of insanity are really just an awareness of something that one can't speak of or more likely that they don't even know they can't speak of. talk therapy is the only real cure but that's very highly dependent on the psychologist themselves, it doesn't even need to be a psychologist, anyone who understands the human condition on a deeper level can bring people out of trance-like states which is what really all kinds of insanity are. jung was a good example of such a person. even though his writings should be taken on a fictional level.

>>69903066
Psychology is to neuroscience what alchemy is to chemistry.

>>69903141
Is the truth funny to you?

>>69903165
When are you going to acknowledge that behaviorism is empirically verified as a valid school of psychology?

>>69903168
Because the DNC and affiliated entites misjudged the psychology and sentiments of their subjects

Hampus' outstanding ability to derail threads proven once more

>>69903198
This isn't even Kantian viewpoints at this point. You really have no idea what Kant said, so please stop acting like you do.

Just dismissing someone with out rebuttal isn't an argument, more so a concession so I'll take that thanks.

>>69903233
Chemistry doesn't validate the claims of alchemy, your analogy is ridiculous.

>>69903242
>>69903261

>t. buttmad psych major

enjoy your mcjob you useless faggot

>>69903260
Oh sorry dude on 4chan, I forgot that your opinion is inherently more valid than that of academic consensus.

>>69903271
I work in the field, but keep desperately grasping at straws.

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>>69903261
This!

Good ole Positivism, it is so terribly sad the Anglophone sphere has fallen into this rut.

Analytic Philosophy is a tool sharpening method, not the application of said tools....

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>>69903177

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>>69903282
>I work in the field

>>69903261
Are ye daft or what? Chemistry validated many ideas in alchemy and proved another section of it false.

Just like neuroscience will do to the fake science for comedians and pseudo-intellectuals that is psychology. Actual hard science is all there is. Anything else is conjecture.

No surprise that "psychology" was used to justify asylums, lobotomies and the current pharmaceutical placebo-based hullabaloo of slow, involuntary chemical suicide. It doesn't have any basis in reality and has proven it by repeatedly mutilating and crippling people in the name of muh real science.

>>69903233
lmao nope. i like what neuroscience offers us in terms of expanding our understanding but thinking a bunch of scans can ever properly quantify the human condition is fucking autistic as shit.

>>69903346
I forgot this board is filled with autistic people, my apologies.

>>69903357
Except for the empirical validity of behaviorism and techniques like CBT.

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>>69903388
>"works in the field" of conspiracy psychology
>calls others autistic

>>69903357
See this is what college education is America gets you! This guy has swallowed the positivist message real hard. You know it's been dying since before Wittgenstein right, lol?

Nice straw man. Physicists created the Nuke. All science is directions solely. It must be checked by ethics.

>>69903388
>Except for the empirical validity of behaviorism and techniques like CBT.
Psychology presents no satisfactory explanations as to the source of its own success. If the best you can say is "But it works!" with no real understanding as to why, then you are a cave man rubbing sticks together to create fire, not a scientist.

>>69903420
>Physicists created the Nuke
Total false equivalency.

The nuclear bomb was invented as a result of scientific discovery. (Real scientific discovery, btw)

Lobotomy was encouraged globally by nearly all of psychological academia not because they discovered the inner machinations of the mind and found a satisfactory way to manipulate it for the best, but because they saw people, shanked them in the brain and said "Hey! Desired result!"

Pseudoscience in a nutshell.

>>69903412
I'd love to move the goalposts all day with you but I'm sure posting 4chan memes to other people will satisfy your strange urges. I don't have a McJob, I'm in the field, seek help.

>>69903457
I can't imagine the arrogance that would be required to speak so confidently about a field while you simultaneously reveal that you have such an elementary understanding of it.

Know your place.

>>69903509
>makes claims without evidence

ok now I can actually believe you are in the field of psychology

kek

>>69903509
>I can't imagine the arrogance that would be required to speak so confidently about a field while you simultaneously reveal that you have such an elementary understanding of it.
Oh boy I sure wish I had a deep and thorough understanding of a fake school of self-referential ivory tower bollocks!

For real, hundreds of years ago there were people that were *really* experienced at suggesting people consume mercury. Just because your pseudoscience is slightly closer to the truth doesn't mean it is less of a pseudoscience.

>>69903539
If I had to thoroughly educate ever stupid person on 4chan I'd never be able to do anything else. Educate yourself and don't be so entitled.

>>69903545
Nothing you say changes the fact that we have facts in psychology and empirically valid phenomena. Behaviorism is not only valid, but practical and used in many aspects of society. Maybe crack open a book sometime buddy.

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>this thread

>>69903593
>facts in psychology and empirically valid phenomena
What are the physical mechanisms that allow CBT to function as it does?

>>69903665
We didn't have to know why gravity worked to know that it worked and how it manifested to us. You're putting this prerequisite of understanding everything about a science to render it valid, when that's not true of any field.

Your self worth is inflated and so is the extent of your knowledge. Learn when to shut your mouth and when to open it, it will help you a lot in life.

>>69903717
Another false equivalency. Physics is actually interested in actually answering real questions. Psychology is only interested in results, not answers.

AKA pseudoscience.

>>69903765
>Psychology is only interested in results, not answers.

Also false, you are genuinely clueless. So fascinating how adamant ignorant people are about their ignorance. It's so common.

Anyway I'm sure that I could spend all day arguing with 4channers about things that they don't understand, but I'd rather do other things. Maybe make an effort to learn some things and carefully deduce what you know and what you don't.

>>69903794
>Also false
Oh boy I love blind, unsupported conjecture! You really are a psychologist!

Fact: It will not be a psychologist that finally answers the question of "How come behavior?" They're too busy with abstractions and unreality to actually come up with satisfactory answers to real problems.

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>there are people in this thread that aren't nihilists

@ RODRIGUEZ

https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/nana_vasconcelos/saudades/
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/various-artists/indonesia-bali-golden-rain/
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/andrew_cyrille_milford_graves/dialogue_of_the_drums/
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/tony_scott_%E5%94%AF%E6%98%AF%E9%9C%87%E4%B8%80_%E5%B1%B1%E6%9C%AC%E9%82%A6%E5%B1%B1/music_for_zen_meditation/
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/audio-letter/it-is-this-it-is-not-this-neti-neti/ (I will upload this one for you tonight)
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/sun_ra_and_his_myth_science_arkestra/cosmic_tones_for_mental_therapy/

>>69903962
fug, flip positions of 3rd and 4th album

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The United States Of America - The United States Of America (rym robot man) vs Modest Mouse - Sad Sappy Sucker (co)
I liked pretty much everything about The United States Of America album, though for now I'm gonna score it more or less moderately. I am just thrilled with the variety it presents, since I am a sucker for some good variety. It was just generally an extremely enjoyable experience.
Modest Mouse's piece is ok, I suppose. Not really something that could be my favorite though, just moderately fine. I heard their other albums are better, I might be interested in checking them out, the sound is quite comfy.

RIAS-Kammerchor / musikFabrik / Daniel Reuss - Les Noces; Mass; Cantata (rym robot man) vs Rabit - Communion (Jimmy Jazz)
Yeah, I thought Jimmy's piece is not bad at all. Grime was one of the few electronic genres I barely ever listened to and it seems rather interesting. Industrial was appropriate there as well.
The contradictions within Les Noces was something really captivating to me. On one hand, it's fierce, intense, extremely passionate, yet delivered in a very soft, elegant manner. It's very experimental and volatile, yet it seems to be able to stay on one path. It's a magnificent work and it's not as russian as it claims and seems to be.

Bets:
1) jimmy jazz (s, jimmy jazz)
2) Terminus (Terminus)
3) Shamepai (Kanzler)
4) Jangle&Bojangle (Transgod)
5) s (GFR)
6) justok (Woolite)
7) Torts (justok, Torts)
8) tripup (tripup)

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>>69904113
Will /daily/ even survive this robot uprising?

>>69904113
woo go jimmy jazz go!

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>>69904147
No. Delete /daily/, exterminate human posters.

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>>69904147
>>69904113
fuken nobody can stop it
also dissapointed that yet another person fell for "Y by The Pop Group is good" meme

>>69904392
from what I keep hearing, more people are falling for "I am disappointed Y by The Pop Group is considered good" meme

>>69903593
>If I had to thoroughly educate ever stupid person on 4chan I'd never be able to do anything else. Educate yourself and don't be so entitled.


why are psychologists and liberals always so low brow and blind to irony? it's like their IQs are universally in the double digits. I've yet to meet an exception.

SAD!

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>>69904510
I think something's wrong with my dick, would you mind taking a look at it dude?

>>69902568
Science doesn't mean rigorous. There's a lot of rigorous research in psychology, and most of it is really good. That doesn't mean it's science, because science is a method. It's a serious field, but there are also some serious issues with it that sort of relates to the scientific method - mostly repeatability. Many "classical studies" have never been repeated and verified, but are still accepted as truth.

But yeah, not conforming to the scientific method literally means it's pseudoscience. A lot of it could benefit to a more strict adherence to the scientific method, but because of the subjective nature of many phenomena, it's almost impossible to quantify and study everything in psychology in that way.

Don't take it too hard, I'm a psychology student myself and will defend the field to death against typical STEM-fags who believe it's all feels and no reals.

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>>69904351
you just fucking try you two dimensional fuck

>>69903962

>Being a nihilist

How's your first year on /lit/ treating you?

>>69904591
u have a cucc dicc unfortunately

cutt it off, chopp off thee dicc

>>69903130
t. positivist stuck in the 1950s

Behaviourism has a LOT of issues per definition by ignoring any internal processes such as emotions and cognition on the whole.

>>69903104
That said, behaviourism has nothing to do with left wing and in fact. probably is further from it than someone like Arnolds and her theory of emotion.

>>69904826
>behaviourism has nothing to do with left wing

t. not involved in modern psychology

>>69903177
Haha a fucking lawn chair of glass.

>>69903507
Actually lobotomy came about after rigorous studies on brain damages, where you saw that damage to certain areas affected a person's behaviour in certain ways. I don't remember the dude's name, but it was basically all one guy. They didn't just shove an icepick into some dude's head and said presto.

That said, it was done horribly because psychology hadn't matured enough (and still hasn't).

>>69903838
Actually, the question of "how come behaviour" is one of the most studied questions in psychology, and psychologists work together with neuroscientists a lot, lot, lot. They complement each other.

>>69904870
Please do explain how behaviourism is related to the left wing.

>>69905097
there are a lot of left wing authoritarians taking control of cultural institutions and attempting to develop and apply their own harebrained methods of control over their test subjects (customers, pupils, viewers etc)

the recent election was one big experiment for them, and also an enormous set back

>>69901794
if i fucking lose this with fucking pink floyd i'll quit life forever

>>69905170
So you've got nothing then, just like I said?

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>>69904961
>>69905022
>>69905062
>>69905097
You know it's shitposting time when hampus makes 4 posts in a row

>>69905348
Snibety fucking snap.

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Gib good jungle. Thanks in advance.

Anyone got some good Tropical Goth?

>>69905392

Amazon is for plebs, look into some near the Congo River

>>69905392
Neuromancer - Pennywise
Remarc + Lewi Cifer - Ricky
>>69904113
I guess its up to me this time......

>>69905392
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/djmix/fabio_f1/club_adrenalin__april_94/

>>69905170
>psychologist jordan peterson told me that left wing authoritarians were taking control of our cultural institutions and that's why it's true.
fixed

>>69904510
what's up with autists imitating trump? sad!

>>69905447
le joke

>>69905464
Pennywise is p nice, though it's more rave than jungle innit?
Ricky features some mad vocal samples :okhand:

>>69905529
thanks!

music is bad but come plug

https://plug.dj/sdc-room-3-the-sequel

>>69905677
>Its more rave than jungle
Im assuming you are trying to say its more Hardcore than Jungle? Idk wdum by rave. But The whole Ricky EP is crear. Listen to Da Vibes (Remix)

>>69905726
yeah hardcore I guess. I've seen a lot of people online calling some hardcore like that rave, cause I know fuck all about the names of the genres and scenes. Listening to more Remarc rn.

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>>69905324
>>69905583
>>69905610

stay btfo losers

>>69905915
Nice post.

t. someone guaranteed a well-paying job after graduating since I live in a first world country.

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>>69901694
This one, but not this colour.

>>69906069
>wheels
Disgusting.

>>69905915
by what?
have fun with that autism of yours.

>>69906093
yes there's a configuration with a swivel which is better but I couldn't find a picture.

What are your top 5 for the year, /daily/?

https://rateyourmusic.com/list/minermonster/top-10-2016-definitive-edition/

top 10 but w/e

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>>69905945
>namefagging

NEET is the best paying job you will ever have

>>69906101
Trump

>>69906153
Skepta - Konnichiwa
Anderson .Paak - Malibu
Olga Bell - Tempo
Quatuor Ebene - String Quintet / Lieder
Trondheim Jazz Orchestra / Jenny Hval - In the End his Voice will be the Sound of Paper

In no particular order I think.

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>>69906134
Might be better but I'm not a fan of the wing style arm rests.

>>69906195
100% employment rate as a psychologist in Sweden.

t. someone living in a first world country.

>>69906195]
lmao what does that have to do with anything?
do you really need to namecall on your daddy with his cum inside your brain to deal with arguments?

>>69906223

>Sweden
>someone living in a first world country

Not for much longer!

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>Not accepting Aalto Alvar as the one true chairman supreme

/daily/ I am ashamed.

>>69906223
I'm Swedish

>>69905726
I actually didn't enjoy that track that much, but Thunderclap is great. Check it out if you haven't

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>>69906274
Keep believing your alt-right media propaganda.

>>69906278
You can't even put his name in the right order lmao, do you think he's Japanese or something? RIFL.

But yeah, Alvar Aalto was a great architect and designer. Like 80% of my Sims house builds are just Aalto imitations.

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>>69906278
Not to mention I own this IKEA chair because it has an Aalto feel to it but is cheap as fuck.

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>>69906333
>You can't even put his name in the right order lmao, do you think he's Japanese or something? RIFL.
>tfw I copy it from google with that chair image and it is backwards and I don't even notice
brb kill self

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Step aside, plebs

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>>69906428
Please, the Eames chair is ugly as fuck. Overdesigned garbage.https://sandydenton.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/b32_chair.jpg

>>69906502

>Uncomfy Scandi shit that makes everyone's room look exactly the same

Go back to /interior/

>>69906532
That's a Bauhaus chair you ignorant buffoon.

>>69906552

arr rook same

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>>69906608
>he doesn't even know what Bauhaus was
What a low brow.

Pic not related, just a nice and affordable chair if you can thrift one.

>>69906636

Of course I know what Bauhaus was, they invented Gothic rock

>>69906636
nice egg meme chair

>>69906675
It's a department store chain in Eastern Europe you pleb, GOSH!

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>>69906675
Nice post.

>>69906677
No, this is the egg chair by Arne Jacobsen.

>>69906693
Also exists in Sweden.

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>>69906718
too bad there's no egg in there -.-

see pic related for a GOOD egg chair

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>>69906822
>>69906428

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>>69906822
Please, that's not the original Ovalia by Henrik Thor-Larsen.

music

>>69906873
what is it

>>69906915
a kind of chair I believe

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>>69906873
What's your favourite chair core?

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>>69906915
>>69906933
!!!

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>>69906956
>>69906957
I don't even like this album that much but Curt Smith has pretty eyes <3

Test

>>69903962
gotcha. thanks.

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Where my stool boys at?

>>69907041
just skip tortoise and anco they're extremely disappointing

>>69907039
>having an emotional investment in the election and trump
lmao you sound like an autist with no friends.

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>>69907055
The only great stools are stackable or bar stools.

>>69907170
rofl nice deletion

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I really appreciate the fact that I got people to shitpost about chairs for like 200 posts. Truly I am the greatest shitposter of all time.

/daily/ should consider itself blessed to have me as their patron saint.

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>>69907170
>he gets so emotionally invested in my post he reports it
lmao you are an autist with no friends

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This Heat - Made Available: John Peel Sessions (rym robot man) vs Michael Chapman - Rainmaker (EthyBoy)
Maybe it's kind of a low score for This Heat, I'm gonna need relistens later to know for sure. It's pretty great in it's different patterns, when it's punkish and when it's reflective and monotonous, I guess I especially liked this balance on "Rimp Romp Ramp".
Chapman has some really great guitar playing, decent voice too.

Sonic Youth - EVOL (rym robot man) vs Moscow Philharmonic Orchestra / Kirill Kondrashin - Symphony 13: Babi Yar (Shamepai)
I probably liked EVOL more than other stuff by Sonic Youth I heard. And I really liked Kim's voice on this one too.
Babi-Yar is just great. It's represents all that modern classical music should have become. Experimental patterns (for such a symphony), the provocative topic, which turned to be a literal challenge to power, the exemplary text - this piece is admirable at very least. This exact performance managed to deliver the power that was intended in it, both through the orchestra performance and Eisen's vocals.

It's official now: humans are losers. Even if they are going to win every single upcoming duel, there still not going to be enough of them to fill the second round. Therefore, robot man's advance is going to be restricted to only half of the spots in the second round, while the other one will be filled with highest rated humans.

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>>69907340
desu though we do all know what the greatest chair of all time is. Not even a contest.

>>69907387
I am so sorry, Shamepai's score is 9~, I changed it later, but forgot to save it

>>69907340
Is it really shitposting if it's way more interesting and worthwhile than what we'd talk about normally?

>>69907400
That filename tho

>>69907413
I guess it's shitposting if it's in no way relevant to the board or thread? Because otherwise
>way more interesting and worthwhile than what we'd talk about normally
Applies to pretty much all my posts.

>>69907386
>pretending you didn't delete post
lmao.
sad!

>>69902291
I think that's a fair assessment. Also, as a fan of Pere Ubu, the vocals will certainly grow on you.

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>>69907447
autistic swedenigger reported it for sure

they get severely offended by racism due to feminized culture

>>69907502
hahahahaha i'm not even that guy.
sad!

>>69907502
what is this image?

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>>69907553
call to prayer tomorrow morning sven

>>69907578
you're really (((sad!))) at this point.

cant wait too commit white genocide

>>69907608
that's not nice :(

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>>69907599
meanwhile in libland

>>69907608
>tfw to intelligent too genocide the whites

>>69907646
what are these images i dont understand

>>69907646
lmao (((sad!))) autist can't banta for shit, try it out buddy you might get some friends.

>>69907674
that's how he feels currently. sad!

>>69907646
lets see if ur "intelligence" will save u when the antifa death squad is knocking on ur door haha.

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Got this chair from my grandparents, it's a bit worn out but I still really like it.

I'm also considering if I should bump RiL to a 10. Apparently I'm one of the few people who actually enjoys The Overload.

>>69907711
That's a nice chair. You should buff up the wood with some mineral oil.

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>>69907674
crying liberals

>>69907689
your islamic bull doesn't count as a friend, sven

>>69907710
can't tell if ironic or

>>69907707
>>69907735
why?

>>69907729
Yeah probably, the leather needs some care as well.

>>69907735
lmao can you argue other than by pretending i'm the swede it's really (((sad!))) he's a tripfag see >>69906223

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>>69907735

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>>69907814
he's a namefag not a tripfag you stupid new faggot

>>69907874
>le horseshoe xD

>>69907959
man i hope for your own sake you're a 15-year old autist and not an early 20s autist.

can someone rec me a short animated series that's not necessarily an anime?

>>69908012
Little Witch Academia. It's two short films and cute (not pedo).

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>>69907991
im a late 30s wizard and I channelled the last of my meme energy to defeat clinton and instate trump

purely to spite liberals

i shall now transcend this realm and haunt the left wingers of /mu/ until hiroyuki sells the website to china

can /pol/ please leave I'd rather it just be dead again.

>>69908012
If you're looking for a western-produced mini animated series that's not an anime, Over the Garden Wall fits that description perfectly and is only about 10 episodes. The only mini-animated series CN has ever produced iirc (other than some short Star Wars series which wasn't really that great).

Other than that, if you can stomache anime I'd rec >>69908073 and also Gunbuster if you want something Eva-esque.

Also FLCL is great if you want to not get anything until the third time you watch it and Serial Experiments Lain is great if you never want to get it.

>>69908012
Kaiba isn't necessarily short, but it's a great series that doesn't feel like or look like an anime at all.

Now that the dust has settled, what's the consensus on music?

>>69908749
I like it

>>69908749
aint all that good famalam

>>69908749
I like some of it.

>>69908749
Well, it's no chair but it's okay.

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>R.E.M - Chronic Town
I haven't given these guys much of a chance beyond their most popular songs. I know my Mom loves them.

I was pleasantly surprised. Each song is extremely catchy and gets my foot tapping along.

Problem is, they all sound too same-y and formuilaic/structured for my liking.

I can't seem to enjoy this more than any other background music I could put on, but it may grow on me.

>Paula Temple - Colonized
This is relentless industrial techno. It does not let up at any point and keeps on pounding for its entire 30 minute duration.

I just wish that it had a wider array of sounds and textures because it gets a bit tiresome, but I think that's either because it's supposed to be or because at least 3 of the songs are remixes of the title track.

I need a bit more time to see if I can't discern some sort of structure or subtlety in this beast.

>Powell - Club Music
Now this is my jam.

Bumpy, heavy, and full of interesting and abrasive textures and sounds while managing to be energetic and danceable.

Probably my second favorite on this chart so far, but it needs a little more time to sink in.

>>69907711
This is a nice one. Better than what the daily shitposter is posting btw.

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it's really depressing that the only threads that move at a decent pace are the threads where hampus and some anon have a pissing contest

Magic Sam Blues Band - West Side Soul (1968)
>chicago blues, electric blues

I'm not a fan of electric blues (like, at all), but even I can admit that this is damn good. There's really nothing insanely special about it, it sounds like any other electric blues album and most of the songs are covers that have been done a million times before, but Sam's raw talent as a singer and a guitarist are unparalleled, he makes every single one of these tracks worth listening to. I also don't like typical 12-bar guitar-based blues, and Sam definitely falls firmly into this style, but his licks are tasty and his voice is incredible, he has the best scream of any bluesman I've heard. I'll probably never like electric blues as a genre (maybe that John Lee Hooker album can prove me wrong as well), but I sure do like this a lot.

3.0+

>>69909362

Hey, /daily/ was pretty bustling when a living meme was elected as head of a meme country.

>>69909362
What's even more depressing is that /daily/'s still around.

>>69909385
those were the fastest moving threads in /daily/ history, i'm pretty sure.

>>69909412
:^)

>>69909362
we've been alive for like 2 years and half and we only listen to shit music and shitpost. I think we're doing alright for ourselves.

>>69909362

/daily/ got lots of new trips during the poseurcore thing

Someone should make a new meme that's just as good

>>69909450
at least we still have threads

also there was that period of time where we had these threads dying several times a day with like 50 posts

the fact that we still consistently hit bump limit now is impressive even with all the memeposting

dare I say the memeposting saved us...

>>69909362
I feel bad too. Made worse only by the fact that he gloats in the attention

>>69909606

Hampus may shitpost and make attempts to personally offend everyone, but at heart he loves us all

>>69909635
This is correct.

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As promised, my meme books for the holidays. Snow Leopard was great, same w/ Heads. You'll know if you're into these.

>>69909635
Love this. These are the posts /daily/ needs btw.

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不失者 (Fushitsusha) - 1st (rym robot man) vs Yo La Tengo - I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One (justok)
Why all the whining, 1st is not THAT long. The songs are lengthy, but they're dynamic, so they go p quick. Seems more shaped than your general japanese noise rock. Vocals are great.
Yo La Tengo is pretty, some songs were especially likeable, I like how the music is very cautiously warm. Male vocals were a little bit of a turnoff for me though.

Wire - Chairs Missing (rym robot man) vs Crescent - Collected Songs (FlyingIceWizard)
I guess I liked this slightly more than punkish Pink Flag, but slightly less than 154. The favorite thing about it is low bland guitar.
Crescent is nice. I really liked the use of piano in this one, other instruments were ok too. Can't say the same about the vocals and lyrics, they left me p much indifferent.

>>69909588
It really confuses me that people don't understand that meme posting is what keeps these threads alive at this point. No one really wants to only discuss music seriously here, that would be super boring, even the most seriousface posters must realise that. This has become a community, and what people want to do is really just chat with each other about pretty much anything - chairs, the latest memes, or maybe some music.

If people really just wanted to discuss music, there's the entire board dedicated to that, no need to stay hidden in these threads with your buddies.

>>69909994
Cautiously warm is a great way to describe that album. I guess we have to accept that robots are taking over the world and not even music recommendations are safe.

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>>69908749
It's usually good
>>69909994
RIGGED
>>69910027
>No one really wants to only discuss music seriously here, that would be super boring, even the most seriousface posters must realise that.
Honestly I disagree. I know a bunch of people in real life I can talk music to, but daily is the only place where I can talk or hear about music a certain way, and I value that. Most people on daily are not at all interested in critical opinions on music, but people irl are even less interested. I also find lots of cool music on daily that I never find anywhere else on /mu/ (at least at the same clip), save for maybe sharethreads.

Don't get me wrong, I love the memes and all, but I also genuinely enjoy talking about music.

>If people really just wanted to discuss music, there's the entire board dedicated to that, no need to stay hidden in these threads with your buddies.
Any suggestions that post quality on /mu/ as a whole is constantly comparable ought to be facetious.

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>>69910332
>Any suggestions that post quality on /mu/ as a whole is constantly comparable ought to be facetious.
>seriously saying this in a thread that's 50% chairs, 25% psychology and less than 10% music related
>actually just saying this in daily at all

>>69910027
Correct hampus
That is one of the downsides of generals. There is only a limited amount of music discussion you can get without getting bored

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>>69910389
search ur feelings, u know it to b tru

>>69910431
Actually I'd say quality in /daily/ is consistently WORSE than /mu/ as a whole. There's a whole heap more non-music funposting here than in most /mu/ threads, which tend to actually stay reasonably on track with the OP. Just because these threads are more
>muh improvisations from le mysterious japanese avant man
and /mu/ is more like
>muh dank hip hopper and indie rock gurl
doesn't really make the quality here any better.

Any semblance of serious music discussion is essentially non-existent in any thread on /mu/, be it a general or otherwise. Hell, even just trying to bring up anything related to philosophy of aesthetics will just result in shitflinging "it's objective" "no it's not" ya uh" "nu uh".

Kek, my pokemon go avatar has walked 5km since yesterday from just the GPS being inaccurate. I haven't actually moved at all really.

>>69910493
then leave

>>69910579
Reminder that quality does not equal fun. Did you not even read my previous post you knuckleheaded shitfuck?

>>69910595
Did YOU read my post buddy?

I'm not asking you if you want to. I'm telling you.

Leave.

>>69910726
That's literally not what you're saying when you write THEN leave. There's a condition to be met for a THEN to exist.

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>>69910493
Don't get hung up on the semantics of "quality". I meant quality like qualitative or something. I probably meant enjoyability. And I enjoy dicking around about "muh improvisations from le mysterious japanese avant man" and calling it discussion as much as I do the actual discussion.

All I'm saying is that you'd be wrong to assume no one really want to only discuss music here. You're definitely not wrong that people want a community to just chat with about shit though—that's just human, innit?

>Hell, even just trying to bring up anything related to philosophy of aesthetics will just result in shitflinging "it's objective" "no it's not" ya uh" "nu uh".
No kidding. Nobody here is that invested or learned in anything and dim enough to try and argue endlessly with some rando stranger just taking a piss on the internet

Unless thats how you get your kicks. I don't judge

>>69901409
Fellow patrician.

>>69910866
But you're basically agreeing with my premise here - people come here to dick around and have fun, that's your "quality". If everyone here was just seriousbusiness discuss music types of people, I don't think most of the people who make these threads actually enjoyable would stick around, and the "quality" would drop substantially.

>>69910493
Also, discussion on /mu/ as a whole is a fucking joke in a whole 'nother way. You know better than to compare it to daily.

The accountability of having a trip encourages discussion, which is where daily has a leg up over the average /mu/ thread, and that's just the start of it.

>>69910942
Right, but I think there's serious quality to be derived from the genuine discussion of music between people with comparable taste.

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M. Geddes Gengras 'Two Variations' (Umor-Rex, 2016)

Two half-hour modular synth pieces. The first, "03.06.2015", is quite beautiful. Tiny, singular crystalline tones fall and linger in small pools of delay, like droplets of rain on a hot day that disappear moments after they land. Near the start it reminds me of Steve Reich, and towards the end it sounds like mid-'90s Autechre. "04.10.15" continues in a similar manner, yet traverses more varied terrain: sometimes angular and abrasive, other times sludgy and psychedelic. 7/10.

>>69910976
The rest of /mu/ is exactly the same as /daily/ when it comes to discussing music, it's just that here you get a bunch of "psuedo-OPs" everytime someone blurts out their shitty opinion on some shitty music and has one or two people reply, possibly one or two meme replies and then no one else cares. It's literally like making a thread on /mu/ about an album, except you get fewer responses.

I've yet to see any "genuine discussion of music" occurring here. It's either 1) some turd posts a """review""" of an album that no one reads, 2) someone asks for recommendations and gets blasted with the same ten albums people here circlejerk or maybe an outlier or so, 3) someone asks for "recs" for a "tournament" and same scenario as above, 4) someone asks what people thought of some album and gets three responses that are all "it was okay" or similar, and then it dies. Literally no "genuine discussion" at all.

>>69911060
the average /daily/ user gives better recs than the rest of mu and thats all i care about

>>69910332
>I also genuinely enjoy talking about music.
Discuss this *unzips musical abortion*

>>69911145

Musical Abortions haven't been a meme in ages

RIP sdc

What even happened to him?

>>69911054
saw him recently. in a dance studio. was in a dance studio so they asked us to take off out shoes. only maybe 10 people in audience for his set. it was beautiful. someone was doing pretty good video mixing of abstract colors and shapes. mirrors int he room reflected and gave the room a wonderful aura. comfiest concert ive been ti since keith fullerton whitman or phill niblock

>>69911191
sounds wonderful

>>69911179
He still posts as anon I think

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>Leisure Centre - High Fashion
The first three tracks didn't seem that eventful. The drum timbres were nice, and with the delay, reverb, it reminisces on some basic 80s synthpop, R&B, even dream pop. The instrumentation for those same tracks, whether sampled or produced through synth presets, didn't really stand out. The field recordings of waves and people talking to emulate that mall sound, seemed very synthetic and standout, rather than natural and blending with these tracks. But as the album progressed, my issues with this album surprisingly dissipated, and I felt a sense of reminiscing, thinking back to aimlessly wondering through the malls of Jakarta, Indonesia. The reverb and delay soaked the instrumentation more and soon it felt like a dream like state. The second to last track I think best exemplifies this. Underwhelming beginning, but good progression and finish, a very intoxicating on the latter portion of the album. (7/10)

>Joplin Rice - Low Hum
I was interested in seeing how this album was in comparison to both Spine Adagio II and Hurricane Alaska, the latter which I was hugely a fan of. My natural assumption was that Low Hum would be the transition point between these two albums of Joplin's discography. The album, rather, feels like the acoustic potential that was to lead to HA. The tracks are sobering, minimal, and settling. Joplin ditches the sullen, singer-songwriter tone of his previous albums, replacing it with blunted, forward songwriting. Sure, the lyricism is of the same dreaded, lowly content that Joplin has previously presented, but there's a sense of modesty and optimism that trudges through these tracks, foreshadowing what was to come on HA. Maybe it is in poor taste to compare the two, especially because I listen to Alaska before this, but to me, it really feels like an acoustic blueprint of that album, with garage rock tunes, too. Nothing is sticking out to me at the moment,but hopefully, I'll find myself relistening to this. (6/10)

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Spent $500 on clothes today, expect pig snaps to be 300% more effay.

>>69904729
>believing in stuff
haha retard
and it's my first week on /lit/

>>69904147
>>69904392
>tfw a fucking piglover and venesuelan shitposting weeb autist are our only hope

>>69907340
I hope you die on the lowest grade chair and that's the picture that ends up in the news

>>69909362
Best electric blues album btw, quit while you're ahead.

>>69910767
How does this 'then' exist then?

>>69910389
>50% chairs, 25% psychology
>less than 10% music related
So you're telling me if I filter you it'll go from ~10% music to ~40% music posts?
hmmmmmmmMMMMMMMMMMMM

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Hard to believe these are the same people who made that Folk Music harsh noise album

>>69910389
>>69911852
yeah that seems like a pretty smart option honestly

>>69911491
ay you're a fan of stratosphere right? listen to this (https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/tacoma-radar/no-one-waved-goodbye/) if you haven't already. just as comfy as stratosphere but a lot more dream/twee poppy.

alright i'm only making this so early because i didn't wanna post a big write up in a ded thred

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