KPOP GENERAL

why are gaypop stage names so stupid and who thought calling that one seventeen member the8 was a good idea

There are only 5 muses now

>>69768074
twice coming to houston when?

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based wuju thread
wuju thread is here

>>69768102
is there an uglier idol out there? I mean fuck who allowed this thing to be an idol

>>69768100
pretty soon there will be 0 muses

>>69768113
candy uggo...

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>>69768113

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xuan yi is best wjsn memer

>>69768082
I don't trust Kim Shin Young too much since she's a woman, but she's the one who actually decided the final ranking.

Honeyview

>>69768115
rumor has it there will be 7 muses next and if you look at jewelry, star empire doesn't mind shuffling members

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>>69768128
WRONG

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>>69768100
there's really only one, let's be honest here

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>>69768113
she has real talent

>>69768055
rip happy taeyeon

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>>69768128
seaweed

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>>69768113
>is there an uglier idol out there?

yes actually

>>69768036
>>69768048
i think its better to support and enjoy groups you like even if they might not be very successful
theres always the chance they can get popular quickly like exid or gfriend

loona>plebis girls

>>69768150
The one with short hair sitting down is cute, the rest are average

>>69768175
sunny on her worst day looks better than the other girl on her best

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>>>69768055
Hyoyeon thinking she looks better than anyone else in SNSD.
L M A O
M
A
O

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>>69768185
if you wanted me to post button girlz all you had to do was ask memer

>>69768187
i like the 2 that are sitting down

>>69768193
*accepts cash and gibs nana a french kiss*

>>69768193
holy shit! is that the famous literal goddess 1.0 i've heard so much about?

>>69768198
her confidence is admirable but shes too much on the delusion side

what's the most nugu group you've followed?

i liked CLC but i dropped them pretty early

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>>69768176
you're right and it's like a vicious circle if people don't support groups even if they like them because too nugu
but it hurts i've been a fan of nine muses, the seeya, speed, gangkiz, spica, after school (post-2011), mblaq...

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not event debuted yet and still best rookies of 2017

>>69768175
woof

reminder that mamamoo is not a top girl group. 2 days at a 3k capacity venue is a joke

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your aoty? mine is webmeme related.

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>>69768215
yup

>>69768176
word i don't understand people who see a nugu group that might not make it and immediately decide to drop them based on that factor alone. if that's a common practice then no wonder so many of these groups with potential tank before they can get off the ground.

>>69768222
pritz

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>>69768215
there's ''idols'' and then there's IDOLS

>>69768232
reminder that this is bait

>>69768229
buncha busted faces except you know who

>>69768222
ladies code...

>>69768232
i don't think any of the new gen have held a bigger concert yet
by sales mamamoo are definitely among the top few groups now

>>69768246
i actually dont know because they all look busted to me

>>69768226
if you like a group it's dumb to stop liking them just because they're not popular, literally 14 year old girl logic

>>69768243
hes right tho

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>>69768234
this one is mine

>>69768232
and yet twice has not had own concert

>>69768256
that's irrelevant. that post is bait

>>69768232
aoa only got like 1400 people in japan

>>69768229
who's the big girl on the right? kinda want me to beat me up

>>69768229
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKoi2_PggpA

WHAT WERE THEY THINKING??

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>>69768253

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pretty waifus everywhere, blessed korea

>>69768254
it's not because they're not popular as such but because seeing the groups you care about falling apart time and time again hurts
kpop is really brutal for nugus now and so many groups will realistically not make it

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>>69768282

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http://www.vlive.tv/video/19167

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>>69768234

>>69768254
i think its more that because they aren't popular they have little to no content so you lose interest

>>69768252
are you the same idiot from yesterday that said mamamoos concert was as big as what 2ne1 could do? i looked at the numbers and i laughed. 2ne1's 2014 world tour had a total of 200k in attendance. mamamoo just doesnt compare at all

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>>69768237
they're the ones forcing the floplyz meme

>>69768273
WTF, girl groups nowadays have way too many members (WJSN is okay though).

>>69768303
I'd record a song with miss catherine...

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Jisoo was cute af acting like a dinosaur on running man

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>>69768257
nice. i liked pink ocean more.

jiho is so dreamy. those eyes...

>>69768313
i meant kpop...

i agree with you though.

>>69768320
>world tour
>literally just east asia

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>>69768300
this is why every group should have a disbandment date like IOI

>>69768327
they are flops tho

all of their supposed "rivals" all rose above and beyond lovelyz and left them in the dust

>>69768273
THAT'S AN AFTER SCHOOL SONG

>>69768270
aoa sold out the Rungrado 1st of May Stadium

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>>69768334

>>69768232
>reminder that mamamoo is not a top girl group. 2 days at a 3k capacity venue is a joke

>tfw lovelyz still hasn't sold out 3 days at a 900 capacity hall

>>69768338
not the point. mamamoo can only sell 6k tickets and it probably wasnt even very pricey at all

I've decided that Yoona is my new favorite Soshi.

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>>69768359

>>69768352
ty

>>69768359
oh you mean im 'skelly feet' yoona?

>>69768359
fuck, i want sushi now

>>69768329
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTM9Tt6y5rM Idols pay there educations cost back after debut , so in the end they don't cost that much money. More members means more targets for boy/girl crushes .

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>>69768345
>flops

there's that word again

flop literally has no meaning anymore

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>>69768222
Dorothy hwaiting!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZw4tLGgyjU

I'm hoping Pledis Girlz drops Eunwoo and Kyla from the lineup before debut

>>69768406
good job ignoring the rest of the post that qualifies them as flops

>>69768406
>anymore

>>69768411
I hoping your mom drops you on your head before... oh wait

I stan nugus all the time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wveP800PDz0

Support Mercury

>>69768320
>2ne1
>Come Back Home KOR: 1,300,000
>Um Oh Ah Yeh KOR: 1,494,854+
hul...

>he's still trying to force the "digital is relevant" meme

>>69768406
>Mijoo will never beat me up

>>69768445
>physical
>in the year 2016
kek

pabo

remember how sistar had good digitals and couldnt sell out a high school gym

>>69768460
Sistar has sajaegi on their side

>>69768460
meanwhile mamamoo has high digitals AND the highest selling concert of the new gen! slay

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>>69768418
the rest doesn't matter

call me in 10 years and we'll see were lovelyz's 'rivals' end up, fads never last long and fads are what made those other groups blow up to begin with

>>69768419
it was pretty useless before but now people use it on groups who haven't even debuted yet
I'm actually going to make it my mission to make flop a total buzzword

>>69768406
forgot your kpopalypse

>>69768429
>Lee-Soo Man (founder of K-Pop power house SM Entertainment) who claimed that 1 million tracks consumed on MelOn do not cover the costs of making a music video for a single

so that song made slightly more in digital sales when they amount to almost nothing anyway. gr8

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>>69768458

>>69768406
show me the charts, show me the show wins, show me something that tells me they aren't flops

>>69768471
they only have 2 songs with decent digital sales
>of the new gen
lol pretty sure even lovelyz recent concert has more even if its not sold out

>>69768488
sadsoul

>Maru Entertainment announces debut of female idol group 'Bonus Baby' slated for January 2017

Please stop debuting groups.

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>>69768490
I could show you all of lovelyz stats and you'd still call them a flop so why bother

>>69768485
DIGITALSHITTERS BTFO

what are some good laboum b-tracks

>>69768485
idols this days make most of there money not with selling music and girl groups loose money instate of making money with a promotion of a song .

>>69768516
>'Bonus Baby'
is this the worst group name in kpop

mimi and her hot legs

>>69768485
that's not counting streaming which is a larger source of revenue and, and
>Let’s break it down for you. In the making of a CD here are the key players and the percentage of sales that they get, Artist (6.6%) Producer (2.2%) Songwriters (4.5%) Distributor (22%) Manufacturing (5%) Retailer (30%) Record label (30%).
now do the math for most girlgroups' physical sales

>>69768527
holy esl

soon no girl groups will be able to make it past nugudom and we'll just have a bunch of gaypops and ancient snsd still doing lazy performances of gee

>>69768352
she looks hungry to me anon
ya know

>>69768521
sales stats?

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i love kgirls

>>69768537
now post digital %

>>69768521
because they're flops

I wish Taeyeon would dance like Mijoo

>>69768340
looks kind of like momo

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>People will still call Lovelyz a flop when they SOLD OVER A MILLION DIGITAL FOR AH-CHOO

>>69768545
the only good groups are from sm and jyp anyway

im loving these sourceless stats

actually i love sunny

>>69768524
I like 달콤하게

>>69768545
this is what we get for only supporting meme groups and trending groups instead of groups who deserve to be supported like nine muses, pledis girlz, loona, ladies code, lovelyz, wjsn, etc

Sell me on Lovelyz

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that was the best rm since the suzy/sulli/jiyeon ep desu

>>69768558
horrible ps

>>69768595
what makes those groups more deserving of support

>>69768561
spotify takes only 30% and melon supposedly has a similar model

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>>69768552
yeah but it's too much work for not much payoff so why bother, lovelyz sales are easy to find anyway

>>69768566
prove it

>its a saleshitter thread

oh yay

>>69768600
too bad it got terrible ratings lol

>>69768610
talent, musicality, fresh concepts and personalities

>>69768595
>nine muses, pledis girlz, loona, ladies code, lovelyz, wjsn, etc
>Nine Muses
Never been popular, flopped hard
>pledis girlz
flopped on debut release
>loona
they arent going to be successful
>ladies code
if they stopped mediaplaying the car accident maybe
>wjsn
lol

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>>69768600
It was so good.
> I was SHITTING, BRUSHING my teeth and WASHING up

>>69768627
just wait for them to get tired
they always do

>>69768637
>they arent going to be successful
why?

>>69768637
pledis girlz hasnt debuted yet tho

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>>69768614
>only 30%
>only
so, the exact same as physical according to your source-less breakdown (they would be the retailer in this case)?
and songs are only a dollar
>supposedly
i dont want suppositions

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taeyang btfo

only popular groups can flop

how long until we get a twice jap album

>>69768680
this

>>69768537
streaming doesnt amount to much either and you have to be selling boy group number of physical sales to make any real money from physicals too. otherwise all your money comes from CFs and events/touring. mamamoo doesnt do particularly well in any of those things, only digital which is nothing. you hear all the time about artists who have hit songs and then they go on tv and talk about how they really didnt actually make all the much money

>>69768667
>pledis girlz hasnt debuted yet tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TMDWIy6-Jc

whats this then

twice flopped hard

if your in korea next month, why not check out lovelyz in person, haters?

theres still tickets available for their first concert and they've been discounted.

I'm glad lovelyz is getting a little more respect around here

>>69768694
didnt crayon pop just say it took them 2 years to get paid from bar bar bar, which is more popular than anything mamameme has done?

>>69768597
No one likes then lol

>>69768695
that's a predebut release, it's like lovelyz's goodnight like yesterday

>>69768719
probably means mamamoo's company barely put any money into their promotion and made their debts easier to null

If you listen to 1 Lovelyz song you will fall in love with them

>>69768702
>theres still tickets available for their first concert
sad
>and they've been discounted
LMAO

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>>69768650
>I was SHITTING
kek

>>69768702
>theres still tickets available for their first concert and they've been discounted.
Didn't OMG sell out the exact same concert hall
How is Lovelyz having this much trouble selling it out

>>69768597
>>69768723
becoming a lovelinus is like finding buddha, you can't make someone find buddha

>>69768702
i'm too scared to go to korea alone

>>69768736
where do you get that mamamoo is getting paid?

>>69768702
>>69768739
>>69768748
woollim didn't advertise the concert

>>69768427
>literally trannies in their group
i'm glad they disbanded

>>69768745
How woulda strayan say this?

>>69768471
thats because all the relevant rookies arent ready to tour yet

>>69768748
$100 tickets are one reason

>>69768767
>i'm glad they disbanded
they disbanded? But I discovered them now :/

woollim pretty much only advertised the lovelyz concert on twitter, meanwhile everyone else hypes up their concerts weeks and months in advance

in the end it doesn't matter how long the tickets take to sell, there's not much difference between getting $500k on day one and $500k on day 30

$500k is $500k

>>69768719
>which is more popular than anything mamameme has done?
it's not though?

>>69768762
>According to CEO Kim Jinwoo, "We spent a total of 2 billion won (approximately $1.74 million) investing in Mamamoo, and the group has already recouped that investment in just 1 year and 8 months.


Mamamoo already broke even on their trainee debt according to the CEO I guess

which one of you faggots thought nayeon was attractive enough to post to kpf? lmaooo

>>69768793
>he still thinks they get 100% of the ticket revenue

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>>69768745
Rose and Jisoo seemed the most confortable doing variety.
I cant wait to see them on Radio Star.

>>69768805
that was LOONA's budget for their meal today

>>69768781
>$100 ticket
i better be able to see up their skirts for that price

>>69768805
that doesnt mean they are getting paid

>>69768150
>mfw we're getting gfriend clones already

this is the worst timeline

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>>69768532

>>69768765
here come the excuses

>>69768805
lol and twice only cost $400,000

I look forward to the day lovelyz makes it and everyone says stuff like 'i-it doesn't count', 'empty house', etc

>>69768854
>the day lovelyz makes it
lmfao keep dreaming

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>>69768630
bigbang's feat. on happytogether was like the lowest % ever. high ratings aren't excepted on a sinking ship like rm anyway

>>69768650
my favorite part was jisoo's hissing during the nametag game. they had so much fun. i want to see lisa be more vocal as they develop in variety. it seems like she wants stuff to say but isn't confident blurting out. but at the same time her timid restraints really add to classic maknae image

>>69768840
and it shows

>>69768833
at least the visuals are upgraded

>>69768839
it's true, woollim is rich because they're cheap, they don't spend money unnecessarily

why spend $100k advertising a concert when you can just send out a tweet and put a banner on your building and sell it out anyway

we love norazo here

>>69768854
I look forward to the day people stop talking about sales

>>69768867
but they didn't sell it out at all lol

>>69768854
just like you did with gfriend and everyone else?
>i can't wait for people to use the same shit on me that i used on them

>>69768825
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loona
who the fuck

>>69768694
>mamamoo doesnt do particularly well in any of those things, only digital which is nothing.
mamamoo has cfs though (thanks to their digitals and public recognition)), and their concert is the biggest from rookies so far and sold out in minutes (AS WELL AS 45k physical sales of memory and the 5th highest gg physicals this year)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL90QhWnXhVf-hRhpXI5edPI9MQgEVhgfz
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mamamoo+cf

Lovelyz are still rookies so they still have a chance to prove you people wrong

>>69768861
it'll happen

>>69768876
it'll never happen

>>69768796
i hate crayon shit but hes right

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>>69768864
jisoo was great. lisa made her usual noises, but didn't really say anything. jennie was qt with her coat hood up

>>69768887
>being this retarded

>>69768897
They have already proved that they are the best kpops to me

i told you fucking retards it was bait

>>69768897
are they the longest running rookies in the game?

listen to those fanchants

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VX0w09lMkI

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>>69768864
She seems shy and also there's still a language barrier.
She barely posts on instagram
Also maybe she isnt that confident cause shes thai and maybe feels kinda left out...

>>69768895
>>69768897
how the fuck are groups that debuted in 2014 considered rookies in almost 20fucking17?

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYacZtMsIPM
>not even 1M views
flop

>>69768916
red velvet is still rookie

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Yein

>>69768931
no they arent

>>69768905
>Bar Bar Bar KOR: 1,162,646+
>Um Oh Ah Yeh KOR: 1,494,854+
>You're the Best KOR: 1,323,251

>>69768931
nah they're already established
I think lovelyz is the only group from 2014 that's still rookie

>>69768921
Lovelinus so based

>>69768921
kek classic Mijoo

which ioi has been the most songs this year

>>69768921
Babysoul is the visual

>>69768944
>>69768948
4. [+61, -8] Whoever that nugu Irene rookie is, if she's getting paid to be on the show, she better shape up and start doing her job. She doesn't look like she's anything special to be able to get away with just sitting there doing nothing. She would've been fired if this was any other job. Learn from how hard your seniors are working. What were they thinking sitting a kid like her down on that seat?

do you people not know what rookie means

it means first year, not "still unpopular and need an excuse"

>>69768895
mamamoo are over 2 years old. theyre not even rookies anymore. the real relevant rookies arent ready to have concerts yet. also selling 6k tickets quickly isnt something to brag about if youre supposedly a ""top girl group""

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>>69768969
wat

whenever I watch a lovelyz live performance I get goosebumps, it's like they ate the CD

>>69768969
if you mean which song was the best esl i'd say very very very

http://www.allkpop.com/buzz/2016/11/1040-buried-corpses-are-uncovered-in-land-owned-by-a-cult

how deep does the rabbit hole go?

>>69768982
see>>69768980

>>69768921
fuck purepop

>>69768980
>+61

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Former Rainbow member Kim Jaekyung has signed an exclusive contract with Namoo Actors as an actress

>>69768477
its already a buzzword
maybe you mean make it known that its nothing more than a buzzword

>>69768983
>selling 6k tickets quickly isnt something to brag about
lol this retard

"stop bragging about selling all tickets of your concert" le mamaflop xDDDD rite guyz? XD

>>69769014
lovelyz isnt purepop

>>69768985
which ioi has been IN the most songs this year*

>>69769006
why are "powerful" people always doing the weirdest shit...

>>69768924
well, new gen or whatever, i guess rookies is the wrong word

>>69769018
I guess so

>>69768996
I can give Jisoo something else to eat

and yeah, they're pretty great live

Kei's face on Dahye's body

>>69768983
i thought it was 3k

>>69768895
># Mamamoo - "Memory" - 24,000 (161107) update Nov 23 #
even Apinks new album sold more than this. this is actually really bad this is almost OMG level

Arin's face on Arin's body...

>>69769063
disgusting

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>>69769043
a churro?

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>GD and CL
Can't believe The Leaders is happening after so long...

I'm glad that patrician-core is being revived in 2017

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>>69769063

>>69769099
speaking of buzzwords

anybody have that pic/gif/webm of jisoo spraying some ice spray on her feet after practice or something I don't remember it exactly anymore but I wanna see it

> tfw i love black pink's music but think all the girls are uggos
> tfw i think twice's music is boring but i'm in love with most idols

goddammit

>>69769053
it was 2 days. 3k each
>>69769023
i mean its not that bad but you were claiming they were 2ne1 level but even 2014/not at their peak 2ne1 is 20x greater than this

>>69769074
a nice churro

>>69769106
patrician-core isn't a buzzword

>>69769120
>it was 2 days. 3k each
so essentially 3k since the same people bought tickets for both days

>>69769114
>rosé
>uggo
you just forfeited your life

>>69769114
how can you hate jennie

>>69769059
why are you posting old numbers
it's now up to 35k, which is more than gfriend's sales for snowflake and the same as revel's for russian roulette (although it came out much later ofc)
what a slay

what does the n in n4 stand for

>>69769137
yes it is, you've ran it into the ground more than you think flop has been

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cute!

>patrician-core isn't a buzzword
kpop is plebeian by default

>>69769158
how

>>69769090
t h i c c

chaeyeon with 8 MVs

>>69769165
idol kpop is the #1 patrician genre

>>69769156
rr sold 52k

>>69769165
kpop might be plebeian but there's still patrician-core within the plebeian-core genre

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>>69769163

tfw SM keeps making RV switch between patrician-core and pleb-core

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>>69769114
I didn't like Jisoo at first, but I really REALLY like her personality, so now I love her

>>69769163
she was cute back on IY
now she's just fake

>>69769180
on gaon
these are hanteo numbers for both groups, memory is up to 45k on gaon after only one monthly update

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>>69769187
cheekers for pinchers

>>69769142
i like jennie the most but she still looks meh to me compared to sana, mina or tzuyu.

i know that this is subjective, i'm just mad because i feel this way.

i didn't mean to say uggos, they just aren't really attractive to me personally.

plebcore - ICC, dumb dumb
patrician-core - one of these nights, automatic

the jury is out on RR

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>>69769114
Dont put blackpink and twice on the same sentence.

kpg gets so pressed about mamamoo snatching their faves kekekekeke

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>>69769207
you are fucking fake you gaypop loving turbo faggot

>>69769235
probably because mamamoo fans unironically talk like this

>>69769238
ew

>>69769243
top cutie~

>>69769216
>i didn't mean to say uggos
but you certainly did say it
and now you're going down for it

>>69769234
word
fuck blackpink

>>69768980
>>69769011
>Whoever that nugu Irene rookie is
they just said that they dont know who she is so obviously they dont know when her group debuted . or its probably just a joke about how irrelevant she is

>>69769224
what about Be Natural or Happiness?

>>69769234
They have snap?!
OMO

>>69768969
sejeong

>>69769284
happiness - plebcore
be natural - patrician-core

>>69769243
hot fucking slut

>>69769172
because you use it for anything that you like that isn't popular

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cute!!

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>>69769293
Its snow.
I get the updates from twitter though.
They dont post much

>>69769303
you: plebtard

>>69769266
ok...

i was just trying to be honest. i won't use language that will trigger you next time.

>>69769000
>this retarded rationality and taste

hand in hand

>>69769315
whistle is patrician-core and it's popular tho

>>69769326
gotem

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>>69769097
What song do you think they'll do?

>>69768460
Sistar has absolutely no fanbase. Their fancafe number is ridiculous. But they're popular and the general public likes their songs, I guess that's why this kind of thing happens to them.

>>69769340
how is that generic song patrician

this should be good

>>69769368

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>>69768359

>>69769364
just like mamamoo