Is there any far left music critiquing liberals and """progressive""

>>69753479
BLM isn't inherently liberal. It's a hashtag anybody can be BLM from liberals to commies to even a few libertarians and conservatives

Is it sad that "please stop letting cops murder black people" is a liberal sensibility?

>>69753644
It's kind of a joke considering more black people are killed by black people than any other race or group.

It's also a joke that BLM has become an excuse for black people to riot and destroy communities in the name of "protest".

anything kinda radical

Midtown 120 Blues is definitely anti-liberal house music, dude's a marxist, hates on Madonna

Stereolab maybe, I can't think of a single instance but they're certainly anti-bourgeois enough that I could see it

The Fall?? I actually have no idea what MES' politics are but I bet you could read him that way

I think Morrissey counts, but who knows anymore

sorry I'm not very good at this, I'm imagining there will be a lot more socialist music made in the next ten years than in the last ten

Honestly I didn't like the actual music that much but the new White Lung had some really fucking interesting political feminist views. The lyrics basically show the lead singer as someone who is a traditional feminist and is very critical of the modern application of the term.

Kill all cops

>>69753677
more white people are killed by white people too, perpetrators of white genocide are whites ya shit lord

also BLM destroying personal property is good because that's what's being valued over their lives, it's a direct protest when they riot, which they do less than you're making it seem

I wish they did more desu

>>69753716
"Really fucking interesting" = something utterly uninteresting and non-progressive/boundary-pushing/thought-provoking

also white lung is ass

>>69753732
Of course people value their stuff more than criminals.

They'll only come to do so more strongly.

>>69753732
>more white people are killed by white people too, perpetrators of white genocide are whites ya shit lord
And yet we're not acting like a bunch of faggots every time a white man is killed by a cop. Which actually does fucking happen, but it doesn't fit the narrative, so you never hear about it.

>>69753732
>also BLM destroying personal property is good
Stopped reading. You're a dumb person and I feel bad for you.

>>69753677
>people still use the "hurrrrr blacks kill more black people" argument

How's high school?

>>69753677
>Just your average friendly leftist here. Totally not hating monk-I mean, our african-american friends. Remember, black-on-black crime is not a product of the ghettoization of black populations by white govt officials. Just regular leftist opinions here, nothing anormal.

You're pathetic

>>69753758
>Stopped reading. You're a dumb person and I feel bad for you

Looks like this materialist prick is triggered!!!

>>69753479
Are you serious? In C is one of the best pieces of pop art minimalism in existence. Just becuase some shitty phone company used it as ringtone doesnt make it bad. Terry Riley is an innovator of music. One of the original ambient musicians and first western musicians to incorporate ideas from African, Asian and middle eastern music into his work, combining those ideas with western art and pop music as well as prog. Hes amazing. You guys sound like idiots. Also a pioneer of sample based musc and synthesizer based music.


Is In C really that difficult or challenging for the normal person? Sure its taking on a lot of different ideas and complex musically? But to a pop music listener? Its pleasant pretty music. Its not scary, harsh, aggressive, abrasive, or anything. Believe me i prefer other music but i thought it was something that customers could enjoy as well... I played alice coltrane and pharoah sanders earlier in the day and a customer asked me to shut it off which is understandable because there is some atonal saxophone playing in it and arythmic yet complex and melodic improvisations going on. Maybe a bit harsh for pop fans. But In C? Its pretty and pleasant for the pleb brain, while engaging, thought provoking, conceptual, and existentially aware to the thinker....

>>69753767
Don't respond to my posts if you're not going to contribute anything worthwhile, you fucking low-intellect cretin.

>>69753479
Listen, this board is a joke.

A shamble. A disease.

Why, you ask?

Because it's full of utter hypocrisy and judgmental hipsters, the same people who ironically call other people hipster douchebags.

When will you people grow up? Most of you are most likely 19 and younger and its quite sad you spend most of you're time judging someone else for their OPINION and taste in music and art.

Just because you listen to edgy underground artists with strange genres I've never heard of doesn't make you a special snowflake. And when you brag to your friends about how cool and "refined" your music taste and knowledge is, just know on the inside they're cringing and laughing at you for actually listening to Neutral Milk Hotel, DeathGrips and Radiohead.

Stop acting like a child. And stop using such immature terms. Grow up, you imbeciles.

In 10 years, none of this trivial tomfoolery will matter. Music is not everything. So while you sit there and torrent the new Bjork album, just know you could've been outside interacting with an actual human being or done something invigorating... Yet you chose to listen to music ironically to fit in with neck beards on a music forum.

How sad, how sad indeed.

>>69753769
Yes everything is white peoples fault. Everything. Why promote personal responsibility like an adult when you can blame everything on someone else like a piece of shit?

If you need to know, black people commit crime because the family structure in black communities is nonexistent. Not everything is a conspiracy, despite what your transsexual dolphinkin gender studies professor tells you.

>>69753798
okay, then why does police data from 2011 show that the white-on-white crime ratio of murderers/deaths is higher than the black-on-black ratio? What strength does your argument have? You're clearly still in high school. Have fun wearing your Million Dollar Extreme shirt in AP Music class!

>>69753841
This post is like watching a mental patient talk to himself.

>>69753859
>okay, then why does police data from 2011 show that the white-on-white crime ratio of murderers/deaths is higher than the black-on-black ratio?
What does white-on-white crime have to do with anything at all being discussed? Are you stupid? Can you not form a coherent argument? Did you think that citing "police data from 2011" would make you appear intelligent?

>>69753845
>Not everything is a conspiracy, despite what your transsexual dolphinkin gender studies professor tells you.

a spicy meme, my friend. But maybe a bit too much salt in it, don't you think ?

>>69753859
lol nice non sequitur man

>>69753845
this white supremacist headlined a show at the smell that had like, a fucking incredible long, comtemplative mark mcguire set, a totally cool spencer clarke set, a whole bunch of shit, like people going out and doing their things that were all really popping off at the time, i remember this was riiight around when this mk of the board first launced so whatever year that was, Not Not Fun was just getting big, pocahaunted were one of the other big names playing and they were just playing this horrible like, pinecone tampon womens studies dreadlocked take on the doors, but they seemed sincere enough, not important, anyway

so the nazi guy comes out, plays one (really cool classically baroque) loop, goes "YA-MA-HA" into a little casio mic and loops that for a couple minutes, is offstage after roughly 9 minutes, smirking his ass off and looking for the afterparty

>>69753845
>dolphinkin

quite possibly the most reddit joke I've ever read

>>69753955
Which would require you to be familiar with reddit. I suggest you get the fuck out of here you nerd.

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>>69753845
>Not everything is a conspiracy, despite what your transsexual dolphinkin gender studies professor tells you.

>>69753970
sup reddit

>>69753644
If you actually cared to read facts rather than base your beliefs on headlines, you'd know that per-capita blacks are killed only a tiny bit more often than whites in police altercations

>>69753999
>>69753644
OP here, I was describing the corporation BLM, run by rich people and Hollywood celebrities. Not the movement or cause.

Basically I was asking for music mocking culture sell outs like Beyonce

>>69754018
if you make your politics into nothing more than a veneer for your consumption practices, you're no more interesting or wise than boring liberals with their fucking meme albums. obviously, any decent music will betray political sensibilities, just like it'll betray ethical commitments, aesthetic aims, and emotions, but to make the art entirely about pithy critique in the form of boring and simple mantras is a sin

>>69754066
too many spooks to count in this post

i don't care about politics in music
blm are retards who hurt their cause more than help it
college progressives deep into the trans*+ latinx genderqueer stuff need to shut the fuck up but they're meaningless in the long run

i'm sure most musicians aren't too on board with that

>>69754102
>college progressives deep into the trans*+ latinx genderqueer stuff need to shut the fuck up but they're meaningless in the long run
Their time is up

>>69754102
>trans and latino

ftfy

>>69754102
>i'm sure most musicians aren't too on board with that

with what? what are you on about?

>>69754163
I think he's talking about the new hypersensitivity trend in neoliberalism

>>69754153
that's what they call it
i mean all the bullshit terms they make up like adding asterisks to trans* and creating fake pronouns and all that
>>69754163
college progressive style identity politics

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>>69753899
>>69753920
>>69753955
>>69753982

>>69754183
I'd rather hang out with annoying gender confused liberal arts majors than neckbearded literal nazis who worship youtube comedians.

>>69754153
Haven't you heard, "Latino" is now a sexist term (even though it's grammatically correct Spanish word, that doesn't matter) because masculine and feminine noun systems are oppressive

>>69754224
>if you don't side with this extreme you must be the other extreme
haha
this is why i hate /pol/ and this election

everybody's gotta have this black and white you're with us or against us attitude toward everything now. everyone's on one side or another and god forbid you disagree with me and you're not on our side your literally hitler or you like to let black dudes fuck your wife and want to kill all the white people or whatever. can't be in the middle, can't lean towards one side without being on board with the extremist shit or youre a traitor. it's like fucking sports teams .

>>69754224
>Only 40 posts into the thread for someone to pull out the "if you disagree you're a literal Nazi" meme

How can a burger company be modern and progressive? Fuck these corporate assholes speaking in buzzwords. Buzzwords business-speak legitimately triggers me.

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>>69753999
not the person you replied to, but would you care to comment on the findings of the 2012 FBI homicide report?

>>69754317
>source: Vox
epic
post the raw data

>>69754331
I'm looking for it. in the meantime how about you post a credible source

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is it against the rules to make /pol/ threads that have nothing to do with music?

>>69754331
couldn't find a breakdown of police killings by race on fbi.gov, so this is the best source I have now.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings/

about 26% of police killings involved black victims. the US population was about 13.3% black in 2015 (https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/table/PST045215/00). this seems to contradict your claim.

>>69753479
Thought Crime Collective

>>69753644
ugh i hate you

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>>69753841

>>69753479

While John maus does critique liberals he doesn't critique things like black lives matter. At least not to a degree where he'd say it's not a necessary movement. He focuses more on things like liberal apathy and consumerism.

>>69755151
>"he was calling people like me out better accuse him of supporting hillary!!!!!"