/gg/ - Guitar and Bass General

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf6OjxYPzoo

how do i play like this

>>69559901
string tension link is dead

should we update it with this?

http://stringtensionpro.com/

Someone gimme an invite the the discord without that kike in it.

>tfw had a guitar for 10 years
>only learning now because 5th grade me didn't get lessons or practice
suffering bros, what could've been

>>69559919
Look up ragtime guitar lessons on youtube. I can't play that style very well but that's only because I don't dedicate enough time to it.

"Deep River Blues" by Doc Watson is an easy one to start with

>>69559919
Transcribe some solos. When people ask how do I sound like this person or that, the best way is to learn some of their songs. Then look at the patterns and find smaller patterns and disect it. Then look at their influences and go listen. If you wanted to draw like Dr Seuss I would sketch some of his drawings and then look up artists that he liked to figure out where the inspiration came from. If all else fails drop acid and draw what you see lol

>>69559952
I think I am pretty good and I've didn't start until I was a freshman.

>>69559952
Heavy theorietical study is only gonna happen if you actually want to be an expert, damn hard work.

Just have fun with it. Find a band or some shit and jam, all you need are to be able to play a few chords and basic scales

>>69559994
>tfw multiple 5/5 tabs on ultimate guitar

>>69560150

feels good mang

Reposting because I put too much effort into the post for the guy asking about Megadeth solo style:

>>69559421
Let me try to break it down.

The rhythm of the Symphony of Destruction solo section is at its core is just an E5 power chord static vamp. This gives you a lot of freedom to hit a lot of notes and have them sound pretty decent.

The solo starts out with an E minor pentatonic/blues kind of thing with a neighbor note half-step bend to the 7th scale degree at one point, and he lands on the flat 5 pretty hard, then flirts with it a bit, blues style.

https://clyp.it/g5420sw5

Then he goes into an F#m7b5 (F# half diminished) arpeggio. F#m7b5 is diatonic to the key of E minor, so he's still doing the E minor thing here, just playing with some more ear-catching notes and intervals.

https://clyp.it/5fopvyz5

Then he does another Em pentatonic thing, stretching out to a 3 note per string pentatonic shape and throwing in the natural 6 from the E Dorian scale as well as the 9th for flavor.

https://clyp.it/za3rh0ce

Then he plays a little sequence through some inversions of a G major triad (still diatonic to the key of E minor) and ends the phrase by landing on the flat 5 of the E minor blues scale once again.

https://clyp.it/rsziwtlb

Then he noodles around in E minor pentatonic/blues again, this time throwing in the flat 6 degree which is diatonic to E natural minor.

https://clyp.it/tqtb5ohz

Then he wraps things up basically playing some E minor pentatonic Chuck Berry sounding licks sped up pretty fast and ends the solo by using the flat 5 again to play a tritone doublestop sounding thing.

https://clyp.it/vp2sgl2t

Whew

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Anyone got one of these?

Whats the difference between the S621QM & the S521.

>been practicing three finger plucking for months
>still not faster than my two finger
>only thing I can do that I couldn't is fast gallops (eg The Trooper)

what am I doing wrong /gg/

>tfw full-time grad student
>haven't had any time to pick up a guitar in the last two months

>>69560623
You'll find the most disciplined fingerstyle in classical. Begin with a few exercises to develop that muscle memory and perhaps learn a few pieces.

bonus points for using your pinky

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Do you think a guitar center would accept my Schecter Hellraiser C-1 for an HSS stratocaster?

They're about the same value, right?

I love my metal playing but I want something with more versatility and also a whammy bar.

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ay you guys like my custom finish??

>>69561123
korean made stuff is extremely undervalued on the used market

and GC is ran by jews

so I doubt they'll give you anything better than a squier but what do I know

>>69561336
everything about this is just awful

>>69561336
are you sending that to an insurance firm?

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Anyone playd/owned a Diamond/DBZ Guitars Hailfire? They look pretty hot.

>>69560585
No idea but I want a 521 so bad

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>>69561698
Haven't played that one but DBZ guitars are actually pretty nice. I love their super thin les paul kind of model.

I would bet it's a solid guitar.

>>69561850
Seriously considering the Hailfire. They'r not that pricey either. Just cant try before buy cos no dealer in my country,

>>69561698
it looks nice desu

>>69560584
Please give me precious (You)'s.

https://clyp.it/3tex0mxh

>>69561336
badass if it actually survived a fire, otherwise shit

How do I get the guitar tone in the beginning of this song? Lots of bass and resonance?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88pEj_F0MaA

>>69561123
Idk about about guitar center but another guitar store I went to wanted to give me 100 for my CV Strat.

>>69562045
Hey.
Nice playing :)

would you sell your car to a dealership?

fuck those places, wait for the best offer online.

kemper

>>69562160
Just buy a 5150/6505, that's what Gojira used for their whole career iirc

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>>69562782

>>69560585
also don't have one, but S series is good stuff, got a s370, so easy to play

>>69562782
>$0.50 was deposited into your account

>>69562160
>>69562864
Also there might be some dual guitar fuckery, like one playing an E and the other playing an F, or just playing the same note twice on two different strings.
Varg Vikernes does it in a few songs and it sounds similar, I can only think of Keliohesten right now but I'm pretty sure there's some others.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF_6qLs-AW0

I miss back when Gojira did sick slams and breakdowns and not gay sell out proge

Now that I can play the entirety of marquee moon am I a good guitarist?

>>69563048
Do you have noice tone?

>>69563048

the song or the album

>>69563115
The album
>>69563056
Absolutely not. Playing on a burnt out piece of shit low tier guitar and blown out practice amp
>tfw poor

>>69563146

yea man

I love that album Fred Smith is an amazing bassist but for some reason I only know the guitar lines I should learn the bass parts some day.

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Hey everyone I just recently joined my school's Light Music Club because I felt guilty about never doing anything and I thought light music would be easy :D

Anyways so me and my clubmates just went and got me a new guitar and it's so cute xD

Any advice for a beginner?

pic related: my new guitar

>>69563218
literally kill yourself

>>69563159
I really feel like the bass and drums get overlooked ( understandably) by the guitar work, there isn't a single mediocre instrument on that album

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>Ordered Tele Thursday
>select free shipping
>not expecting it till Mon-Tues
>It's arriving tomorrow

>>69563146
Good lad, you can play it in its entirety when the family asks to hear something at Christmas. The lick after 'if i ever catch that ventriloquist' is one off my favourites tbphwys.

>>69563218

Yeah, don't sleep with your guitar and don't bully your kouhai.

>>69563218
Why do you keep posting this?

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>>69563401
he's trying to meme but doesn't realise it won't take off

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Rate my guitar /mu/

>>69563515

pretty cool

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>Jimmy Page
>used a Telecaster in the studio but used a Les Paul or SG live

>Johnny Marr
>used a Telecaser in the studio but used a Rickenbacker 330 live

Any other examples of this phenomenon?

>>69563582

J Mascis uses Telecasters on studio but Jazzmasters live, he started using his Tele live for a few songs though.

>>69563599
Every album?

>>69563515
pretty cool

>>69563582
No idea but teles probably have a nicer sound for mixing.

Hey /gg/ I've got a roland cube 30 I don't use anymore how much do you think I should ask for it? It's in good condition. 100 dollarydoos?

>>69563612

From Green Mind to date, yeah. I'm not sure about Bug though don't quote me on that one.

>>69563515

guitar/guitar

good job on guitar

>>69563515
7/10

>>69563647
keep it just in case

>>69563647
yeah keep it as a practice amp.

>>69563674
>>69563782
I actually used it recently when my old 100w head died on me. I guess it does make more sense to keep it around just in case.

how do i know if my guitar buzzing is it's own problem, or if i'm just not holding down chords hard enough? my strings are pretty heavy

>>69563884
Well does it buzz if you mute all the strings?

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1ivCLPo05vU

Name that song /gg/?

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>>69563515
Pretty nice dude.

Please rate my guitar too /mu/

>>69561336
is... is that safe? i dont think having your electronics exposed is a good idea

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Thoughts on cozart guitars? They're bottom-tier cheap but they look rad for what they are and they have good reviews. Should I /gg/? Pic related, sorry for the low quality but it looks sweet.

>>69564006
Pretty nice. The finish is cool. How does she play? Any feedback issues?

>>69564144
I personally haven't had a ton of issues. I mainly use it for post rock/shoegaze so feedback at least for me is encouraged and my only complaint is that it didn't have a tremolo bar. Plays really nice, but of course the Jazzmaster is my dream guitar

Hey guitarfags, my bandmate has an Egnater Tweaker 15 and the sound just suddenly quit working. The light comes on, there's just no sound. Is it the tubes?

>>69564187
>I mainly use it for post rock/shoegaze

of course you would

>>69563243
>>69563159
yeah the basslines are phenomenal

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>>69564037
>semi-hollow strat

>>69564037
Get it anyway.

why do bassists lead drummers?

is it an amateur thing? I can't imagine a 50-60 year old big band drummer not having his kick pedal at metronome-tier

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My guitar took a tumble and cracked. Is this repairable?

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>tfw to dumb to understand diminished chords

>>69560585
Probably only the meme top, according to Ibanez's site. I want an s521 so bad too.

>>69564506
let me guess
that's an SG or a LP

>>69564582
it's a minor chord with a flat fifth
there, you know what it is now

>>69563515
3/10, it not a G&L m8

>>69564676
looks like the neck joint on an acoustic tbph

>>69564676

It's a taylor

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Please rate my meme machine, no bully.

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>>69564895
Its beautiful anon

>>69564895
>6 strings

not interested

>>69563849
I always throw my cube in for gigs as an emergency, only needed once in an actual gig, but a couple of times in rehearsal.


Well worth keeping around, considering you'd only get drinking money for it

>>69565078
How could anybody hear your cube over stacks?

>>69564706
plz no bully

>tfw hit a speed wall with all of the exercises I try to do or parts from solos which I pick out

Feels like my wrist and hands just can't go any faster. What can I do? Should I be anchoring my hand on the bridge for fast parts?

>>69565173
>post 1991
>playing fast

>>69565192
>making excuses to not get as good as you can get
Just keep building up your pedalboard, lad

>>69565173
Pick as economically as possible. Make the smallest possible movement to make the note sound.

https://youtu.be/7JSCmIBzabU

>>69565264
>fast
>good

>>69565275

That seems like an interesting concept, forcing your muscle memory to prefer making smaller movements through that.

I sometimes try to make small movements as possible when tremelo picking but I often find the more I try to do it the "weaker" the sound that results

>>69565332
Keep making excuses, lad

>>69565353
>the more I try to do it the "weaker" the sound that results
I hear that this goes away after a while and you can get the tone where you want it and you can put the accents where you want them and such, but you have to suffer through that breaking-in period first.

But I haven't mastered it myself so that's just hearsay. I think I'll work on this tonight though.

>>69565396
>fast
>ever

>>69565123
Not everyone plays through stacks all the time

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>>69565396
>implying butt rawk speed shredding isn't a manifestation of toxic masculinity

>>69565473
I don't understand

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>>69565490
>toxic masculinity
>>>/thefaggotboard/

>>69565473
What/where do you play?

Not meming, but engineers I've met wouldn't have a clue what to do with a cube

>they dont play arenas

>>69565670
>not just micing a guy backstage who hums your guitars parts

>>69565692
>you will never get to be on top of the pops and mime whatever you want, switching instruments

>>69565592
>engineers I've met wouldn't have a clue what to do with a cube
Then you've only met impostors. Just slap a mic on it and treat like all the other shitty amp/cabs most guitarists bring to the venue

>>69566019
Oh yeah I should have prefaced, most engineers are fucking retards

Whenever someone hasn't brought the right gear they've always panicked

>>69566062
>Whenever someone hasn't brought the right gear they've always panicked

Band's fault, not the front of house.

>>69566146
In 6-7 years of gigging it's never once been my band

And tbf it's usually the venue's fault for not being clear what they provide

>>69566181
Ah, sounds like bad luck with your venues then m8. I've always made sure my technical rider is up to date and most of the time other venues I've been to have had pretty good ones.

>>69566261
Ever got a festival or even outdoor slot? Loved it, everything pre-rigged and soundchecked for you. Loudest we've ever played

Fucking hate the winter

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>>69564666
Is it a meme top?
I think they all look pretty good, not too over the top like some of the other finishes

http://www.ibanez.com/products/u_eg_detail.php?data_id=363&color=CL02&year=2016&cat_id=1&series_id=4

Is there a way to bypass the demo version pop up on bias fx?
I recorded some sick shit that I want to show you guys but the demo pop up wrecks the render

>>69566502
Why are kids these days so incapable of pirating

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>>69566354
Do you like it?

If yes, then buy it

Ibanez only uses a super thin veneer, but they can look okay if they catch the light the right way

>>69566615
I aint running no PositiveGrid_KeyGen.exe out here

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>>69566708
Guess you're never cracking it then mate :^)

>>69566615
Internet is too easy.

>JB split coil bridge + rwrp middle in parallel
>high gain channel
mighty comfy shredding

>>69567333
>high output neck humbucker
>tone knob rolled off
>low-medium gain on amp
>a touch of reverb
The comfiest shredding

>>69563582
Brian May supposedly used a Telecaster on the "Crazy Little Thing Called Love" solo.

Has anyone ever played guitar for a long time but never really tried writing? I've been playing for like three years and technically i'm pretty good but i've never really tried making my own songs.

>>69567694
Always writing songs as in lyrics to chords. Terrible at lead though so never really written any riffs and my solos are pathetic when I've tried recording them.

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Going to an estate sale to look at this tomorrow. How much should I pay max?

Also, recommendations for a nice delay pedal (possibly with looping functionality?)

>>69559994
thats not a guitar solo though
thats fingerstyle /blues/ragtime

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Unless its a vintage model or is really cheap. there is no reason to buy a Gibson over a epiphone.

>>69568249
Correction: there is no reason to buy a Gibson over a $400-$500 Epiphone. Believe me from experience that some of em are shit

>>69568249
A Epi Custom black beauty was one of my first guitars. I planned on getting a LP tribute or Standard but decided against it when i went to GC and played a few. there really wasnt enough of a difference to justify the jump in price.

I ended up just replacing the pickups in the Epiphone.

Only reason i have a USA SG special is because it was only $300.

can I achieve doom tones in a low wattage amp? I'm using stock humbuckers and a Big Muff

>>69568366
Get a peavey bandit

>>69564277
t. fender shill

best place to get an sg? even a knockoff is fine, I just dig dat body shape

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Is this a good interface for a complete newfag to recording?
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Focusrite/Scarlett-Solo-Studio-Pack-2nd-Gen.gc

Also what DAW would you recommend

how 2 refinish? is there a video or guide somewhere?

>>69568659
I don't have one but most people say the gen2 fixes the problems of the gen1. I wouldn't trust the headphones or mic tho.

>>69568636
Ive been thinking of getting a epiphone SG special. dont really care that its bolt on. the only other thing in the price range is a LTD viper and they are ugly

>>69568743
But I mean hell, if I'm gonna get the interface, why not get the microphone and headset (again, newfag to all this so I don't have a decent pair of headphones or microphone)

Between the Boss Katana and Fender Mustang which is better?

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>>69568636
epiphone, ltd, and rondo make cheaper versions since im assuming youre not going to get a gibson.

>>69568846
actually I checked reverb just now and there are some cheap toakis in my price range. any experience with those?

Play this as a barre chord. Why does it sound so good?
x
3
3
5
5
5

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>>69568841
Is this your first amp? I don't know about the Katanas but I can tell you something about the Mustang. My friend was just starting out not too long ago and bought the little 20watt version. He found it exasperating. It has 24 preset banks that require extensive tweaking in their program. 17 amps with 12 different cabinets, and 4 slots for gain, modulation, delay and reverb pedals/racks, each one of those effects has 9-14 different pedals each. And that's just the little one. The 2x12 model has 100(!) presets you need to fix.

Overwhelming for a beginner he told me. You really need to spend serious time with the EQ levels, the pedal order, the pedals themselves, the cabinet choices,amps and so on. He gave it to me and bought a normal amp instead.

>>69568841
vox vt20x, then buy a regular amp after two months. all modeling amps sound decent these days, but they all sound annoyingly digital. cleans are good across the board, but distortion sounds a bit limp.

>>69569066
Is the X supposed to be on the 6th string (thickest one)?
If so, you're writing your chord backwards and it sounds good because it's an inversion of a Fmaj7

>>69568846
ltd sgs look awful

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>>69566682
is that a s470? There one one sale with a JB and 59, but it looks pretty rusty. Some anon said the neck was kinda shit.
>>69566354
when I say meme I mean they look FUCKING GREAT. There's an S770PB in a local shop and it feels amazing. Too expensive though.

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another pick, what do you think about the rust? it's on sale for 300$. I'll probably block the bridge though.

>>69569928
that yellow pickup is ruining everything

>>69569950
It's probably the stock one. I don't mind it though, I can always change it, or at least the cover.

What do you think of the rust, though?

>>69568690
ill do it for you if you want

>>69569978
it does have some rust but i think theres more in the tuners than the bridge. or it looks like it anyway. i think youd have to go and inspect it in person/

>>69568249
1. Are the epiphone models really on par with the gibsons in your opinion?

2.And what's about Fender/Squire, in your opinion?

>>69570635
Anything above the les paul studio is on par with most Gibsons. the QC is hit and miss with both companies but id rather not risk getting a bad Gibson.

As for squier, they are great guitars. but the current prices are ridiculous. The CV and VM series are on par with the low end USA and MIM guitars. almost as good as CIJ squiers from the 80s.

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why did I ever buy non fender guitars.

I just want a strat and a jazz.

https://clyp.it/npor2oju

EMG's do funk better than expected mind you.

>>69571041
>not a 5 string bass

>>69571041
I have an Ibanez RG prestige and i'm very pleased with it. it's very comfortable and it sounds great

What guitar do you have?

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>>69571280
I have a 5 string bass, I took the bottom string off it because it's a meme and I never used it. It's too fucking low to be useful at all.

>>69571314
this thing.

It's fine it's just not my style anymore.

>>69571460
I was just saying that it bothered me how everything about Bootsy's bass is 5-pointed stars, up to and including 5 goddamn pickups, but it isn't a 5-string bass.

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>>69571574

>>69571792
fuck you, I just like numbers that match and find myself soothed by repetitive tasks

>>69568219
bout tree fiddy

Any advice on how to get better at finding chords by ear?

I cannot figure this song out for the life of me
https://youtu.be/NFQ4nuUuwNo?t=146

>>69571916
Listen to the bass and try and find the bass note. I play around on the E or A string on the guitar then try major or minor see which one fits.

>>69570818
>but id rather not risk getting a bad Gibson.
>risk getting
>he's ordered every guitar he's ever touched online
Ah, there it is. Just another /gg/ hobbyist who never leaves his house.

lol, you don't know shit about anything.

post your most regretful purchases

>Martin DX1KAE electric acoustic
>EHX B9 organ pedal
>Ableton packs

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>>69569901
>>69569928
Yeah, it's an S470, picked it up cheap, and it plays great, and the ZR bridge is rock solid no matter how hard you whack it.

The "rust" on your pic is mostly an easy fix - replace the pickup rings, they're just plastic with a metal coating.

The wear on the bridge looks to be mainly gunk with a bit of wear. As long as the bearings are still okay, it should last more or less forever

>>69572010
What if both of them just don't quite work?

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>>69571280
>bassist gets a five string
>only noticeable difference is the occasional "brown note"
>sit bassist down and tell her that we appreciate her wanting to expand her range
>explain that we feel it would be better to focus on the four strings she already had

Also, for some songs, I have to play bass while she sings and five strings does nothing but fuck me up.

Bassists need to quit chasing waterfalls, but I can't blame them for trying.

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>>69572120
It should work but trickier if they have a capo. But also Chordify helps sometimes. Hope this helps.
https://chordify.net/chords/red-house-painters-katy-song-sundevilscott

>>69571460
My Ibanez is HSH

>>69571916
I have a tin ear. I don't think I'll ever be able to recognize keys/chords by ear, especially anything other than plain maj/min

But with your guitar in your hand, it's easy as fuck. You should be able to hear what chord feels like the "root" or "resolve". It should take you 10 seconds to find the fret on the low E. That's almost always the key. From there, it's almost always (blues) minor (pentatonic) or major.

Over 80% of rock/pop songs you hear are going to be minor, and usually E, A, D G, or B.

What kind of chair do you sit in to practice? My computer chair hurts my back after sitting forward and playing for like 30 minutes or so

>>69572626
i have a lazyboy in my bedroom. uncomfortable as fuck to play guitar on because of the rests but very comfy for gaming so what can ya do

>>69572626
Stand most of the time. Guitars feels completely different so if you're playing anytime soon you wanna get used to it.

>>69572626
>>69572876

I prefer to stand, too. Otherwise I sit on a piano stand. I even like to pass out laying on the couch playing guitar.

>>69572876
>>69573074
>tfw can't play sitting down and people think it's weird
Should I "learn" to play sitting down?

>>69573133
Nah standing is better imo

I remember when I first played on stage how unnatural my guitar felt, not used to the weight and angle of the fretboard etc. You wanna learn to be comfortable

>>69573165
I've just found it troublesome when I want to test out gear or when I was at a luthier. Now I just bring a strap to guitar stores.

>>69571460
>>69572146
5 string basses have a use and take very little time to get used to. I only own 5ers at this point since I can everything I can do on a 4 and more.
>too low, brown note
Shitty speakers, shitty EQ or a bad string. That's not a universal problem.

>>69572078
You're the guy with the Sandberg bass, right?

>>69573290
yup

Maybe about to buy a third double bass soon, too!

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>>69573346
First of all, I still find it weird that I recognize your garden.
Sandbergbro here, pic related will arrive in the next few days.

>>69573266
Off topic, but you seem to know basses.

My DI for bass is too quiet. I replaced the bass battery. Jacked up the gain on the interface, put it in instrument mode... still can't get a thump out of it.

Suggestions?

>>69573372
I wouldn't know a solution off the top of my head. Try to isolate the issue, is the bass working normal through an amp? Is the cable working with other instruments? Is the audio interface working with a different guitar? Etc.

>>69568833
You'll just have to upgrade them. The microphone will record audio but it will be low quality (and not low quality in a good way either). The headphones will just be cheap in general and will probably break after a few months of consistent use.

Maybe they're actually great products, I haven't actually looked at their specs or anything. But I highly doubt it.

Just do some more leg work, do some more research and get some decent stand alone monitors and a decent mic.

>>69568939
I have a 1984 tokai breezysound that is my absolute favorite guitar to play. Can't give any input on their other stuff. But my experience with the one guitar is very positive.

>>69573368
Very pretty.

A need or a want?

I feel I need another double bass and a 5 string is going to allow me to do things I can't or are too tricky with an extension

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Do most people write guitar parts, then lyrics?

How important to you is the honest/integrity of the lyrics vs how well the notes/melody/impression of lyrics?

Do you ever write stuff you don't relate to just because it sounds good?

Do you find yourself writing music in a genre/theme that you wouldn't otherwise be a fan of?

How do you handle playing extremely personal/dark songs for friends?

>>69573406
bass into amp works
bass into interface works
bass through DI splitter works on AMP

I know it's gotta be the DI box, but I don't understand what to do.

>>69573431
Definitely a want. The need would be a fretless, and I just scored a Yamaha trb1005F that I'll also pick up next week.
A 5 string upright? Neat. I assume low B since you were talking about an extension? Maybe a silly question, but is down tuning a thing on upright? I know they used to be tuned in all kinds of weird ways. Could you get high tension strings and tune a 4string down to C standard? Or BEAD? But I suppose you'd need the G string and C standard would throw off virtually all your standard playing since you use open strings so much on UB.

>>69573465
I can't write lyrics. they all sound preachy or contrived

When I look at my favourite writers stuff it's always so simple, almost nonsensical, but just works. Can't put my finger on it

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>>69573542
It's amazing how people gloss over lyrics or interpret them through their own lens.

I wrote this the other night about suicidal thoughts.

https://clyp.it/rxylwl54

First song I ever recorded. I didn't even polish the lyrics. You can hear in my voice how nervous I am at the start. It's just the first verse, an idea about chorus, and outro.

Played it for a friend and she thought it was a love song. I couple anons here said I had potential and I've never been so hopeful.

Think about some of your favorite hit songs and how dumb the lyrics can be.

Sweet child of mine is complete nonsense, for instance. The "where do we go?" part is there because Axl literally couldn't figure out where to take the song. And no one gives a fuck.

>>69573489
Low string will be C as there are about 2 low Bs in the standard classical repertoire, although it will often be closer to B as the baroque group I play with tunes to 415.

The 5th string will eliminate some real awkwardness and stupid shifts that you get with an extension.

Low tunings are easy enough to do, as there are sets for all different tunings and tensions - Low B/C strings are common and single strings are readily available, although a low tuning wouldn't be practical for most purposes.

At the moment I have my little bass strung up in 5ths CGDA like a cello an octave lower. Takes a bit of learning and thinking, but works surprisingly well and has a very different resonance.

>>69573465
Is your DI active or passive? Bass'es usually require active DI's cause their signal isn't as hot as guitars. Try bypassing the DI and going straight into the interface, see what happens.

>>69573643
Pretty sure it's passive (there's no batter for the DI). Going straight into the interface works fine.

>>69573584
Another one of my favorite examples is John Mayer's anecdote about how label execs made him demo his album on laptop speakers, because that's how they thought most fans would hear it. How a song sounds is sometimes more important than what it actually means.

>>69573601
Seems like that'd make a lot of sense. Good luck with the 5er upright, I need to get out of this apartment before I can even think about getting an acoustic upright, right now I'm stuck with my EUB for practice at home.

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No idea if this is the right thread for this but my Roland Cube 30x just croaked on me today. It powers on fine with a quick sound from the speaker. Usually, all the lights will go on and then blink off in a second and that's when the amp starts producing sound. But this time, it just stays with all the lights lit up. I have tried turning it off and on multiple times but it's still the same

Any ideas on how to fix this? i opened the amp and the fuse and capacitors look fine

>>69573666
So if you want track bass through a DI and hear it on the amp - you'll want to get an active DI. For now, I suggest recording straight into the interface and running some sort of sim on the signal, so you'd hear how it sounds amped up.

If you wanna do the split - get an active DI box.

>>69573786
I heard the best way to record bass was to mix DI and cab, that's what I'm going for.

>>69573820
Not sure what genre you are looking for, and since I haven't got a bass all I can do is parrot some recording tips I heard from Spectre Media.

If it's metal you're looking for and on the cheap - what the guys usually do is run one unamped DI signal and one amped - either via sim or an amp.

If you're looking for metal check out SMG's "how to record heavy bass", it has some neat tricks. Ryan Bruce does some similar thingies - he records a DI, copies the track, amps one up through a sim and lets a di copy stay for the attack and punch. Voila.

I sadly can't help you if you're looking for something other than metal.

Looking for a tortex pick that has a better grip than the standard jim dunlop ones. I sweat a lot live so I need something that doesn't slip. Anyone that can recommend me a set?

>>69573958
I've never seen Tortex picks with textured grip. You could try carving notches into one and see if that helps

>>69559901
How can I get a decent tone just to play in my dorm room and maybe do some shows with my band without spending thousands on amp heads, pre amps, pedals and whatnot ? I just have my guitar right now

>>69574050
Headphones.

>>69574136
Alright thanks

What amp should I get to be my first?

Looking at my local Guitar stores website shows that these are the main options in my price range.

http://derringers.com.au/yamaha-thr5-guitar-amplifier
http://derringers.com.au/vox-pathfinder-10-combo-amplifier
http://derringers.com.au/marshall-mg10cf-10w-combo
http://derringers.com.au/roland-cube-20gx-combo-guitar-amp
http://derringers.com.au/line-6-spider-iv-15-15w-guitar-amp
http://derringers.com.au/fender-frontman-10g-black-and-silver-guitar-combo-amplifier
http://derringers.com.au/fender-champion-20-guitar-amplifier-black
http://derringers.com.au/line-6-micro-spider-6w-battery-powered-guitar-amp

>>69574274
The Line6 spiders you can drop out of the list completely - they're abyssmal.

Try out the Yamaha or Vox if you can.

>>69560585
>Ibanez

throwing up in my mouth,

id rather a squier

mus taste in gear is fucking laughable

fucking KYS all of you

>>69574439
>some guy looking for his first amp
>laughable taste

>>69574439
Your post is wrong it should be "/mu/'s taste in gear is fucking laughable" not "mus taste in gear is fucking laughable"

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Someone at my college is selling his new 2016 Olive Green Mustang for $300 should I buy it?

>>69574569
>New mustang
>300

of course you should

>>69574569
Of course you should, and even if you don't like it you can probably just sell it to some other idiot for more than that

>>69574569
Color isn't that nice but that's a bargain, do it

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>>69574591
>>69574592
>>69574587
Alright I'll pull the trigger, I'll mod it out and swap parts with my Squier Mustang. I kindve wanted to make some type of Boba Fett inspired Mustang and give my Squier mustang that classic Surf Green and Maple combo like my Strat

>>69563218
>:D
>xD
Fucking stop

>>69559901
I want to buy my first electric, coming from a crappy classical guitar. Maybe around 500 bucks used or new.
I was thinking about getting a G&L Asat deluxe for the wider nut, any opinions or other recommendations?

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What would be the best pickup combo for a guitar with only Two Pickups? HS, SS, SH, P90s? Or anything else you can think of?

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>>69574919
Solid choice anon, I'm actually starting classical lessons and I've been playing my 12" Flying V as my electric and it's comfy as fuck. The ASAT Deluxe is awesome too because the Tele is usually the electric that classical players go towards anyways if they don't. Care much about fanciness. Maybe try the new Daphne blue Fender Nashville Tele? It's got a 12" neck and looks sexy

>>69575007
humbucker bridge, single coil neck
the wiring behind is just as important

>>69575038
Ideally I'd like classical dimensions (2'' nut, wide string spacing) with the conveniences of an electric (solid body, pickups, height and intonation adjustable saddles, etc.). But it seems like I'd need to order a custom guitar for that and I really don't have the budget. As long as the Asat deluxe sounds decent, stays in tune and is properly adjustable I'd be happy honestly.

>>69575007
two p90s

>>69575007
Humbucker in the neck (for jazz) single coil in the bridge( for jangly skronky bullshit)

>>69575038
>>69575090
The new artcore vintage Ibanez guitars also look interesting. 43mm nut, adjustable saddles.

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>>69575007
The best would be HH with split coils, and split coil switching.

>>69560768
>using your pinky in classical
Get behind me satan.
This man is trying to mislead you, do not listen to him for he is full of shit.

>>69575099
this would be the most versatile

'best' is subjective tho

>>69575512
some do, rarely though

and classical ties in with flamenco with a lot of 5 string chords

>>69573465
>Do most people write guitar parts, then lyrics?
I write the guitar part first then the lyrics, although I've heard most artists write lyrics as doing so would make the melody just come in naturally without needing to think about it too much. (I too sometimes write the lyrics first.)

>How important to you is the honest/integrity of the lyrics vs how well the notes/melody/impression of lyrics?
Honestly, I give no damn about the honest songwriting bullcrap. The melody is what makes the song most of the time and not the lyrics. (well, that's my opinion at least.)

>Do you ever write stuff you don't relate to just because it sounds good?
Sure. I do it most of the time when writing songs. Most of my experience (social or w/e) isn't that interesting thus I always step into someone else's shoes when writing songs.

>Do you find yourself writing music in a genre/theme that you wouldn't otherwise be a fan of?
Most of the songs I write are pop-ish so I guess it's a yes.

>How do you handle playing extremely personal/dark songs for friends?
I really haven't written any personal songs moreso than dark songs. Plus if I do, I don't think they'll notice that its something personal.

>>69575776
>classical ties in with flamenco

Andres Segovia would snap your neck for saying that

>>69575831
nigga I've seen some huge names live switch between styles, it adds a lot of energy to performances

anyway besides the point, it's worth using your pinky just a little bit and not falling into the support trap. if one ever delves into jazz they're gonna need it immediately

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So I'm changing the strings on my guitar for the first time, and this little thingy is really loose now, it keeps moving up and down from left to right , and the string isn't held in place anymore. Am I screwing it back incorrectly or something?There's a spring involved too. I'm probably missing something very simple.

>>69568249

My 2c: The golden ages of both are over.

Gisbon USA quality control is appalling. Many seem to have been slapped together with terrible fretwork, especially on the low end models like the faded series (barf). Something about paying $$$ for a 5 piece body and shit frets doesn't sit right

And the best Epis were built in Japan, Korea, and Czech republic. I haven't played a chinese one that was anywhere near as good as the older ones yet. They're still good value I just wouldn't buy one.

>>69575873
it will get firm again once you put some tension on the string

link to the musician's discord: https://discord.gg/29xHMMb

dont worry, it's a tripfag-free zone

>>69575873
That's called a saddle. The big screw holds it in place length-wise. That's for adjusting intonation.
There should also be 2 small screws (usually hex screws) at the opposite end. Those lift the saddle up and adjust the height of the string. They should be the same length so the saddle isn't slanted or rocks left for right.

>>69575873

that's a string saddle

They are a bit loose with no string tension on them. The string if it is a floating trem, runs through the back of the guitar in the trem block, then out of the hole and up to the nut. There should be a little groove on the end of the saddle facing the pickups and the string should sit on it. When you tighten the string it will hold the saddle down and the string should sit snug

>>69575873
>gio
believe me that's only the beginning of your issues
anyways, that bridge is garbage but as >>69575906 says, you just need to tune the string back again so that tension will hold it in place.
Just make sure the saddle is in proper position before doing so.

>>69575873
>>69575918
btw if there was nothing wrong with your setup before hand there should be no need to play with the saddles' screws or other parts when restringing.

Are there particularly small/light bass models?

I'm a 5'8 manlet, played a friends Warwick and it felt huge. I have long fingers but short arms weirdly.

>>69575962
Look for medium or shortscale basses.
If you're fine with longscale and just want the body to be small and light, check out Ibanez SR basses.

>>69575831
Segovia was a hack.

Classical guitar has moved a long way forward since his time.

>>69575962
look through bill wyman's inventory

he had small hands apparently

are the new epiphone casinos any good?

i have a boner for early rock and roll and feel like i need one of these in my life.

>>69575867
Flamenco and classical guitar styles are two distinct styles.
Flamenco was the music of the illiterate common man in Spain, while classical music was for the wealthy and educated court musicians.

When I say flamenco, I don't mean fucking Paco De Lucia either, that doesn't qualifying as Spanish peasant music at all since his skill level is far above hat they could play.

>>69575906
>>69575916
>>69575918
>>69575926
>>69575952
Alright , thanks everyone. Hopefully I won't fuck something up.

>>69575971
Is there much of a difference sound wise with med or short-scale?

Looking for just like a standard Fender precision type body too. Something I can move around a bit since I like to play up the neck.

>>69575962

short-scale basses bruh

A lot of SG basses are short scale.

Maybe give the cheapy epiphone one a go. I played a new Gibson Sg bass a few years ago and it was awful for the huge price tag

>>69575974
And yet nobody uses the pinky for anything HMMMM...

It's a weaker finger that produces an undesirable sharp, tinny sound. No matter how much it is filed, the width of the nail doesn't give notes good support.
>>69575867
>gonna need the pinky for jazz
Kek no

>>69576015
not with an electric bass

but you can tell the difference between a bass guitar and an upright bass. the upright is much fuller/mellower

>>69575995

From what I can see the only decent current epis are the semi hollows, like the casino and dot.

As far as epi goes generally the older Korean ones are much better although the electronics are just as crappy

>>69576028
i use pinky for rock playing all the time

>>69575974
>Segovia was a hack.
This
John Williams was a Segovia student and is way better than Segovia ever dreamed of being.

>>69576015
I think the 50s precision bass/Tele bass is medium scale. Check those out. Yes, the shorter the scale length the thicker strings you'll NEED and that's why they mostly sound a bit muddy and thumpier. Also, pickups are closer to the neck relative to the scale length with shorter scales lengths. But it's definitely something you can work with.

>>69573465
Bryan Beller has said he usually titles the song first, then tries to write parts that sound like they fit the title.

>>69576035
... That's because it's an entirely different instrument, not because of the scale length specifically.

>>69576028
>And yet nobody uses the pinky for anything HMMMM.
BULLSHIT
https://youtu.be/e30sfenIXJw

>>69576008

restringing seemed a big deal back when i was first starting. It's really a simple deal though and the more you do it the quicker and easier it is.

just a word of advice: make sure you know what string guage to use. If you switch gauges you may need to take it to a store to get set up again.

I made the mistake of going much heavier on my first guitar and it threw the neck relief out and it wouldn't intonate properly was an absolute fuck

>>69576035
>>69576058
Aight, cheers guys

>>69576057
John Williams is trash, from his guitar choice to his rigid style(which sometimes works).
The man must be on the spectrum because everything form his play style to general demeanor is completely uninspired. There are many, better guitarists than him like Doug Niedt, Christopher Parkening, Bream etc, but John's only notable accomplishment is playing like a robot.
I spoke with a man named Jim Sherry in Chicago at length(2 hours, not entirely by choice) who knew Segovia, published some of Parkening's books(Sherry Brenner Publishing), etc.
He booked a show for John in Chicago once during the 80's. He said that some of the things that John Williams would say were highly unusual, nevermind the fact that some of them would be offensive to the person who booked him. He said something along the lines of "The only reason I ever do these shows in America is for the money, I would much rather be back home."

John's performances are also no frills, he has a set list of songs he does all the time, there's no time for questions, he comes, he plays, he goes home.

>>69576058
Wow Fender reissues are almost double that of guitars.

I can't imagine the low end tone is much different on a Squier? Got plenty of cash but if it's just for a few months practice, couple of shows etc. should I should go for this? Looks perfect size and shape wise.

>>69576176
>John Williams is trash
>technically the best traditional classical guitarist on the planet

you wanna rephrase that m8

>>69576204
Do you have a link in the exact model?

>>69576077
Whoa... So this is the power of this pinky...

Here's David Russell, a better guitarist, playing it without the pinky and not playing like an autistic robot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRXFsYsEmcI

Sevilla by Albeniz is the only Williams interpretation I like.

>>69576222
You've never heard David Russell play then.

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>>69576176
>John Williams
>completely uninspired

>>69576176
See
>>69576222
>I don't like his personality so fuck him
This is what I got outta that post.

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>>69576176

>>69576272
>t. only listens to William's interpretations of pieces

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this guy is sick

>>69576296
Sorry anon but shit taste isn't a disease, there's nothing you can do to correct it

>>69576296
Get well soon beard hair guy.

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haters gon hate

>>69576231
http://www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/Squier-by-Fender-Affinity-Precision-PJ-Bass-Guitar-Olympic-White/QRT

Forgot I should order from this site since I get a discount and free delivery. Can't seem to find size options but this is the very basic model, feel free to have a look around. Not too fussed on the style as long as it's easily to move around as I said. Thanks bud.

>>69576363
Well that's a standard longscale bass.
The 50s P bass or Telecaster bass is something more specific.
And either way, it'll be a P bass which usually means it has a chunky neck. I only mentioned it since you were asking for a short or mediumscale bass and mentioned precision basses.

>>69576408
Yeah and I can't seem to find shortscale on this site. Must be somewhere, most reputable online dealer in the UK.

>>69576308
I don't know if that's true, anon.
I just don't think it's contagious, you're just born with it or you're not.

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>>69576343
>>69576296
Looks like a failed Claudio Sanchez.

>>69576428
I did a quick search in your price range and found 2 shortscale basses:
http://www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/Squier-By-Fender-Affinity-Bronco-Bass-Black/2NG
http://www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/Squier-by-Fender-Vintage-Modified-Jaguar-Bass-SS-Short-Scale-Black/JWJ
and a medium scale:
http://www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/Squier-FSR-Gary-Jarman-Signature-Bass-RW-Ocean-Turquoise/1GY0

>>69576408
>>69576428
Got em for Jaguars, which are fine by me

http://www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/Squier-By-Fender-Vintage-Modified-Jaguar-Bass-Special-SS/FYZ

If I could be cheeky enough, what should I be spending on a practice amp that won't create an earthquake in my flat? Looking to spend like £70 at the very max

http://www.gear4music.com/Bass-Amps/Practice-Amps.html

>>69576516
>>69576520
Yeah, the VM jaguar seems like a fine choice if you're really worried about long scale. Can't talk about the overall quality of the instrument but Squiers are usually fine.

>>69576520
practice amps universally sound pretty crappy to be perfectly honest. I'd just get something on the cheaper side and not worry about your tone too much on these things, they basically just make sure you can hear yourself. Anything in the 10-20W range is fine at home.

>>69576520
>£70
*£80

I just have bad memories of my last practice amp rattling everything and giving off feedback constantly.

>>69576579
20w then, and I'll be using headphones mostly anyway.

Thanks for all your help.

>>69576609
No problem.

>>69576516
>having to go through kids guitars to find your size

iktf

i have to buy xl child white school shirts for suits

>>69576684
Well it's stupid that they're called "kids size" in that shop. It's just a shortscale.
I only play extra long scale 5ers, so I don't know that feel, but it seems silly.

>>69576719

yeah it is a bit, you see those smaller basses played by (fully grown) pros all the time

not even always because they're small themselves, as someone said above it can feel much more comfortable hammering melodies on a smaller bass

>>69576579
yamaha thr10 is a practice amp and it sounds 10/10

>>69576805
>300 bucks
Not what most people would spend on a practice amp.

>>69576828
maybe not, but anon said that practice amps are universally crappy, which i dont think is true.

worth the buy though, i highly recommend it for anyone who likes to play quietly but get that tube effect, plus it doubles as an interface and as a stereo speaker for whatever aux device you use

>>69576860
I literally just need a thing to practice with, would use my laptop if it got to that point. My local has a big fuck off bass amp stack permanently set up and I have a manager to help out for other venues.

Played guitar, drummed and played a bit of bass for years so it's only the parts I need to learn/write.

>>69576906
then do what i did when i first started playing geetar:

get on craigslist and buy the cheapest amp you can find that

>a) works, and;
>b) has the power output you require

think about b) for a while; are you sure you'll be playing foreveralone? i picked up a 35W solid state peavey for $80, granted it was made in the 90s but it's still in perfect working condition today.

>>69576942
>get on craigslist

Bit skeptical of getting ripped off with that but I guess it's an option for a cheaper yet better amp. Just need a big mate to come along with me

>>69576296
Damn straight senpai

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTn29WvGpEU

Better downpicker than James Hetfield

>>69576994
Damn, you really live in a country where you need to bring protection when you buy something off a stranger online? Must be a real shithole.

>>69577121
Nah I just live in the west country of England, arguments can happen over anything and I'm no good at them. Not dangerous.

Hey guys reccommend some stuff like John Fahey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT6W2hJsqYA

Please red pill me on the fender deluxe powerhouse stratacaster. There is one for sale in my area for 400 used obo, Carmel colored body, maple fretboard, the fancy white pick guard, etc. thanks

>>69577133
Is it an area that's known for people carrying knives? Cause I live in that kind of place.

>>69577161
You should use that money to buy some books or dyslexia medication :^)

>>69575038
faded series pleb, its not a real flying v unless its got that fat gloss finish

>>69577206
>stratacaster
Maybe he's from Boston

>>69577189
Could be anywhere, don't mind driving a few miles

I'm sure it will just be a bloke who bought it for his son who gave up in 5 mins though, but you never know

>>69577113
what a beast holy shit

>>69577219
>Boston
Nah, we pronounce it "stratacastah"

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I recently bought an epiphone les paul special II and an amplifier("cort" brand) for $400. Was it a good investment or a waste of money? First electric guitar btw

>>69577524
>good investment

Depends if you stick at it

>>69577524
>for $400
Where do you live ?
If it's america/europe you got completely ripped off mate. A new epi lp special II is €150 and I can't imagine paying more than €100 for a cort amp.

>>69577619
Argentina

>>69577665
ah, that explains it.
as >>69577560 said, if you stick to it, it's not a bad investment, I've paid €100 for my guitar and I spent much more than a hundred hours on it in barely three years, so even if it is an utter turd, it pretty much gave me a whole new hobby and opened my mind to a lot more different music genres.

>>69577719
Backing this up, I learned most of what I know on a £40 nylon string.

>>69577719
gonna second this anon - i bought a cheapo 80 dollar bass like 7 years ago. it was shitty but got me into the hobby

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>>69577866
I'll mention just one thing though, just because you're feeling comfortable jamming in your bedroom on your epi or whatever cheap guitar you have doesn't mean it'll be as good on stage when gigging, there's nothing wrong with upgrading your instrument.
Also, don't hoard cheap gear. It's tempting to succumb to the feeling of "I need new sounds", but it doesn't mean you should go for it.

>>69577916
I went through music performance college with a new MiM tele and no idea how to EQ it properly, nervous wreck and fucked up endlessly for months despite being a competent bedroom player.

All part of growing as a musician. There is no better feeling than the first time you play with a full band though with big amps and a drummer. Makes all the practice worth it.

>>69578013
Yeah, also because you have good gear doesn't mean you'll sound good. It all works as some sort of balance.

On top of that I'll give another piece of advice : record yourself
even with your cellphone or your webcam, it doesn't matter if the sound is ass but as long as you can hear your mistakes, you'll be able to focus on them much better.

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