How do into rock music? Is there an essentials or flowchart?

>>69438394
Just listen to what you want, you have to be an autismo not to know any classic rock albums

>>69438419
>everyone cares and knows about twing twang

No

>>69438394
>listened to art
Examples?

>>69438440
Beethoven, Bach, Mozart, Haydn, Schubert, Mendelssohn

Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, David Bowie and The Doors

>>69438394
Slint
Talk Talk
Talking Heads
Radiohead
My Bloody Valentine
Slayer
Burzum
Fugazi

>>69438394
>art
B8, have a (you)

>>69438476
How is it b8?

>>69438444
So you mean classical music?
First you need to get out of your classical elitist mindset

>>69438509
It's just another label for it, why are you upset?

>>69438542
The idea that classical and only classical can be art within music

>>69438554
All music is art, only classical is 'art music'.

>>69438394
if you want to listen to something similar to classical there's neoclassical rock. check out yngwie malmsteen

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>>69438394
Classic rock, then Krautrock, then stop.

>>69438476
>>69438509
Do you people seriously dont know that art music is a thing?

rockists are so fucking stupid i swear

Guitar Rock was perfected by Weezer on their first two records. Save em for later unless you want your fuckin socks knocked off from the get go

>>69439016
Weezer are shite though

>>69438476
>>69438509
>>69438554
You realize that art music is an actual term right?

It's just rather misleading, especially on /mu/ since bait is common here.

But yes, the art music/popular music/traditional music dichotomy is a genuine system used to classify music on a very base level.

>>69438394
>>69438447
This except Bowie.

>>69438394
TMR

Hey I posted a Flaming Lips flowchart about a year ago with yoshimi at the top. My old comp died and I lost it. People approved of it and I kinda want it. Does anyone just happen to have it?

>>69439073
>dichotomy
trichotomy.

>>69438394
I'm only gonna list modern artists/bands (90s onward) and one key song to ger you started.

Older:
>Nirvana (Smells Like Teen Spirit)
>Pearl Jam (Evenflow)
>Soundgarden (Black Hole Sun)
>Alice In Chains (Would?)
>Rage Against the Machine (Bulls on Parade)
>Smashing Pumpkins (Bullet with Butterfly Wings)
>Red Hot Chili Peppers (Californication)
>Metallica (One)
>Beck (Loser)
>Radiohead (Karma Police)
>Weezer (Say it Ain't So)
>Green Day (Longview)
>Stone Temple Pilots (Interstate Love Song)
>Foo Fighters (Everlong)
>Nine Inch Nails (Closer)
>Tool (Stinkfist)

Newer:
>Cage the Elephant (Shake Me Down)
>Royal Blood (Figure It Out)
>Highly Suspect (My Name Is Human)
>Muse (Uprising)
>Rise Against (Savior)
>A Perfect Circle (Judith)
>Deftones (Change)
>Kings of Leon (Use Somebody)
>30 Seconds to Mars (The Kill)
>Mastodon (Oblivion)
>Ghost (Cirice)
>Linkin Park (In the End)
>White Stripes (Icky Thump)
>Raconteurs (Steady as She Goes)
>Black Keys (Tighten Up)
>Modest Mouse (Float On)
>The Killers (When You Were Young)

That should be enough and have enough variety to get you started.

>>69440183
That's the biggest list of shit I have ever seen presented seriously

>>69440201
He's trying to get into rock, not suck Modern Baseball's nuts, you fucking retard.

Honestly, I have no idea
Start by listening to Talk Talk or something
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0i_ZhYkqjg

>>69440213
I don't even like modern baseball
That list is buttrock at its worst and you know it

>>69440183
Horrible list

>>69440238
Actually, OP, consider this

>>69440272
Make a better one.

Hard mode - don't include retarded shit like Japandroids and Titus Andronicus, aka shit only P4K/Fantano-fags like specifically because P4K/Fantano told them to like it.

>>69440183

>no Kyuss
>no QOTSA
>no early Arctic Monkeys
>one of the lesser Muse albums

>>69440183
Jesus What the fuck

>>69440350
Let's see:
>OP wants to get into Rock music
>most of the stuff he has listened to this point is Classical
Why do the tracks need to be modern?

>>69440239
No, a buttrock list at its worst would be Staind, Puddle of Mudd, Seether, Five Finger Death Punch, Shinedown, Nickelback, Avenged Sevenfold, Slipknot, Korn, Disturbed, 3 Doors Down, and Marilyn Manson.

>>69440183
Literally the most reddit post I've ever seen on this site

>>69440420
Not much difference

>>69440371
Kyuss is great, but not exactly a way to get started listening to rock, like OP asked.

I agree, Qotsa and Arctic Monkeys should be on there. I only spent 5 minutes making the damn thing, yet everyone in here is acting like I fucked up a thesis paper.

>>69440405
So what you're saying is you can't make a list, right?

>>69440431
Sorry, how about I make a more 4chan-esque rock starter list:

Radiohead
Frank Ocean
Danny Brown
Childish Gambino
Chvrches
Grimes
Deafheaven
Solange
Japanese Breakfast
Animal Collective
Kanye
LCD Soundsystem

That better?

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>>69438394
here's a chart I made to get you started.

these are rock essentials and some others I consider amazing. I stuck to one per artist, you can find more if you like them.

>>69440563
Good list senpai

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>>69440183
>posting the wrong chili peppers album
>>69438394
Listen to pic related

>>69440645
this is trash. anthony kiedis is a fucking joke

>>69440563
>Nick Drake
>Bob Dylan
Rock

>>69440547
You just changed it from /r/music to /r/indieheads.

Kill yourself.

>>69440667
Kiedis is great. Go post in the Lou Reed circle jerk fag.

>>69440676
wow, the chart is ruined

>>69440722
no, he can't sing at all.

Some stuff:
>Led Zeppelin (entire discog)
>The Doors (s/t, see if you like it or not)
>listen to a punk band (The Ramones, The Clash, take your pick of the big names.)
>Black Sabbath (s/t, Paranoid, Master of Reality)
>Pink Floyd (Start with DSOTM, Animals, Wish You Were Here)
>Yes (Close to the Edge)
>David Bowie
>Nirvana (There are only 3 albums so it won't be hard)
>Weezer (Blue, Pinkerton)
>Smashing Pumpkins (Siamese Dream, Mellon Collie)
>Arctic Monkeys (listen to their discog only through Humbug unless you like Pop Music.)
>The Strokes (Is This It, the rest is eh.)
>The White Stripes (White Blood Cells, Elephant, Get Behind Me Satan)
>Queens of the Stone Age (Songs for the Deaf, ...Like Clockwork)
>Cage the Elephant (s/t, Melophobia)
The rest is stuff that /mu/ generally hates on but isn't really bad it's just too lighthearted for the pretentiousness of this board.
>Muse (Only Origin of Symmetry, its their only 'good album,' otherwise just try to find the occasional good Muse song, they do exist.)
>Ghost (Meliora)
>Them Crooked Vultures (s/t)

this should help you into rock throughout generations (I mostly skipped the 80s for your benefit) and into different genres

>>69440722
>likes Red Hot Chili Turds
>calls other people fags

topkek

>>69440761
>wow, the chart is ruined
It literally is though.

>>69438458
Only listen to the last 3. The others suck

>>69439073
Yeah, but you can't deny the terms used are pretty pretentious.
It doesn't invalidate anything that you said, and it's true that the "art music" field have always been more sophisticated (staff notation, harmonic techniques, etc.)
But can we really say that early Sonic Youth or Autechre are "popular" ? They don't distrubute their music through written or oral means, but their stuff is still pretty weird and unusual musically speaking, and I think definitely has an artistic value.

>Black Sabbath - Paranoid
>The Stooges - Loose
Elvis Presley - Heartbreak Hotel
>The Rolling Stones - Happy
>Creedence Clearwater Revival - It Came Out of the Sky
The Velvet Underground - Heroin
>Ramones - Havana Affair
AC/DC - Back in Black
>Iron Maiden - Transylvania

Here's an easy list for you OP

>>69438394
Nuggets: Original Artyfacts from the First Psychedelic Era, 1965-1968

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AUxOF7eLA_0

Frank Zappa - Lumpy Gravy
The Mothers of Invention - Freak Out!
The United States of America - s/t
Silver Apples - s/t
Jefferson Airplane - After Bathing At Baxter's
Amon Düül II - Phallus Dei
The Grateful Dead - Live/Dead
The Beach Boys - SMiLE
The Holy Modal Rounders - Indian War Whoop
Faust - s/t
Popol Vuh - Hosianna Mantra
Third Eye Blind - s/t
Can - Future Days
Tangerine Dream - Zeit
Gong - Camembert Electrique
Third Ear Band - Elements
Suicide - s/t
The Residents - Not Available
Chrome - Half Machine Lip Moves
Wire - Chairs Missing
Pere Ubu - The Art of Walking
Butthole Surfers - Psychic... Powerless... Another Man's Sac
Mission of Burma - Vs.
Birdsongs of the Mesozoic - Magnetic Flip
This Heat - Deceit
Univers Zero - Ceux de Dehors
Sonic Youth - Sister
Julian Cope - World Shut Your Mouth
Dead Can Dance - Spleen and Ideal
De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising
Mercury Rev - Boces
Tortoise - Millions Now Living Will Never Die
Stereolab - Transient Random-Noise Bursts With Announcements
Hash Jar Tempo - Well Oiled
Cul de Sac - Ecim
Lightwave - Mundus Subterraneus
Thinking Fellers Union Local 282 - Mother of All Saints
Neutral Milk Hotel - In The Aeroplane Over The Sea
The Olivia Tremor Control - Black Foliage: Animation Music Vol. 1
Yo La Tengo - May I Sing With Me
The Fiery Furnaces - Bitter Tea
Grails - Burning Off Impurities
The Books - The Lemon of Pink
Solex - Low Kick and Hard Bop
The Microphones - Mount Eerie
Cave - Psychic Psummer
Deerhoof - Reveille
Animal Collective - Spirit They're Gone, Spirit They've Vanished
Fuck Buttons - Street Horrrsing
The Flaming Lips - Embryonic

>>69441118
These are good but they aren't how you into rock. Most of them are stretching the umbrella of rock as a genre and some aren't even rock. That said, OP should still listen to them, after getting into rock.

>>69441152
>some aren't even rock

Which ones?

>>69441170
AnCo, The Microphones, De La Soul, Can, The Residents, and there's a few on here I'm not familiar enough with to categorize.

>>69441170
Smile, Indian War Whoop, Faust (maybe), Popol Vuh (no way you would call this rock), Residents.
And a lot of others are more descendants of rock, but not rock.

>>69441118
fuck off. these are trash recs for someone just getting into rock

>>69440676
Blonde on Blonde is folk rock you retard

>>69441209
>>69441248
Electronica and hip hop are just a subgenre of rock as much as punk or metal are. Via the proxy of modern R&B.

R&B simply set the stage for rock'n'roll to emerge. What was missing (the great drawback of rhythm'n'blues) was true creativity. Rhythm'n'blues (whether vocal or instrumental) was anchored to well-defined structures, that performers challenged only marginally. There were no significant attempts to create free-form structures, to integrate idioms of other cultures, to enlarge the orchestration to new instruments, to radically alter any of the fundamental dogmas of black-music performance. That was indeed the revolution of rock music, which will progressively introduce the traditional European values of innovation and progress into the archaic values of African personal expression.

Indeed, the majority of Electronica and hip hop is a reversion to the stagnation of 40s R&B and 70s Disco. In 30 years time it will seem just as embarrassing and non-artistic as these. Is there contemporary patrician electronic music? In a word, absolutely. But it's represented by avant-garde electroacoustic improvisation and experimental developments using progeria like Supercollider, not by some hack in a warehouse blasting an endless I-I-V-I progression over a disco sample, memerap or ''experimental'' electronica.

Punk 9/10 album: Husker Du - Zen Arcade
Metal 9/10 album: Type O Negative - Deep, Slow, Hard
Hip hop and Electronica 9/10 album: [ERROR NOT FOUND]

Electronica is just a subgenre, anything else is a microgenre and of no relevance to educated music enthusiasts.

>>69441338
>error not found
>what is the money store

>>69441403
utter fucking trash for generation Z Linkin Park/RATM fans

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>>69441338
>Electronica and hip hop are just a subgenre of rock as much as punk or metal are.

>>69441338
well memed xD

>>69440350
but the first Japandroids LP is actually incredidible

they became buttrock for pitchfork kids after that tho

>>69441462
great fucking post anon, you sure proved him wrong

>>69438394
TRANS
SIBERIAN
ORCHESTRA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSy29vjfrC4

Slint
Swans
Melvins
Pj Harvey
The birthday party
Shellac
Melt banana
The jesus lizard
David bowie
Blur oyster cult
Mr bungle
Minutemen
Mission of burma
Volcano suns
Boredoms
Naked city
DNA
Later era beatles
Masters of reality
Queen
Queens of the stone age
Motorhead
Mule
Polvo
Nick cave
Lightning bolt
Deerhoof
Magazine

>>69438394
Have you tried turning on the fucking radio? Stop asking neckbeards who are just going to recommend "patrician" bullshit and shit on good suggestions. The way you call it "art music" instead of classical music like a normal person tells me that you're too pretentious to enjoy a genre not meant to take itself seriously anyway.

>>69442200
>listening to rock radio stations

>>69440807
neckbeardcore

>>69438394
>69438394
start with Led Zeppelin