>Musical taste is subjective >Therefore nobody actually

shut up, fag

>>69408071
not really
there is a difference between "truth" and "meaning"

>>69408155
>there is a difference between "truth" and "meaning"
tell me more anon

>>69408155
What the hell are you talking about?

It is my opinion that tame impala is pleb shit

Music snobs irl have vastly different taste than the ironic shitposters on /mu/

and it's better

>>69408188
>>69408188
your opinion is correct, op's isn't

>>69408200
>opinion
>correct

>>69408071
subjectivity is for plebs who eat feces and say "well i don't like it but someone else might." or they hear someone else talking about how amazing the feces is and eat the feces with great enthusiasm because they're fucking idiots.

>>69408194
all the music snobs I know irl are dad rockers, think starterpack shoegaze is obscure, or are snotty goths who think Peter Murphy is the pinnacle of post-punk.

so, I prefer the shitposting here.

>Musical taste is subjective

This is what plebeians really believe.

>>69408173
>>69408180
ok

truth is the solitary and unshakable fact of something. truth is unmoving and static. When you say "this music is the best, that's the truth" and other people submit to it, there can be no change or deviation or anything beyond it.


meaning, however, is something that is always growing. it is always up for interpretation and always able to reach new and different heights. But it is not something that is based in truth, rather something that is based in its own internal logic. It is not something entirely subjective as in "well that's just your opinion" because you can use the work to show that it accomplishes well what it needs to accomplish or not. It has its own set of rules that are not definite but contigent.

sry I'm drunk

>>69408295
that seems reasonable

>>69408313
I'm glad you clarified that you're drunk. This pseudo-intellectual nonsense.

>>69408348
well if you want to read more, I'd recommend stuff by Roland Barthes or Nietzsche or other poststructuralist stuff. Carry on my wayward son. There will be peace when you are done.

>>69408270
what's your argument? how do you prove to me that the feces are feces? you're just saying that people are driven to things other people like
>>69408348
there is nothing more pseudo intellectual than ruling something as pseudo intellectual without rebutting it
all you're saying is "I'm smarter than you"
>>69408313
I think none of that applies to art tho

>>69408270
>subjective
I'm not sure we both have the same understanding of what that word means, because you're basically describing /mu/, and /mu/'s opinions are extremely objective. The hive mind is strong on this website, and a lot of the tastes here are fucking strange. It's literally consensus; nobody would be talking about these albums if people weren't masturbating to them.

No opinion is completely objective or subjective. If you always listened to the crowd, how would you find yourself? If you never listened to the crowd, how could you understand where you set your par of quality?

>>69408398
>I think none of that applies to art tho

Pls explain more.

>>69408398
i can't prove it to you. if your senses are dulled to the point that you can't recognize feces i'd simply laugh at your enthusiastic shit-eating face.
>>69408401
who said the mu hivemind was objective. it's no different from any other instance of people getting together and creating some vague code for what's good or bad.
>No opinion is completely objective or subjective.
some opinions are better than others. if you can't recognize this then that's unfortunate.
>If you always listened to the crowd, how would you find yourself? If you never listened to the crowd, how could you understand where you set your par of quality?
you listen to the music you fucking dolt.

>>69408313
Pseudo science is completely worthless in every context anon, especially when it comes to music,. If you can't determine if something is objectively good or not, there is no point in trying by any other means, you are literally wasting your time and making yourself look like a moron.

>>69408659
>it's not science

the calling card of the Platonist cuck

>>69408694
I'm sorry astrology isn't real anon

>>69408071
Nothing is subjective, everything is objective