What are music genres with Reactionary / Traditionalist / Nationalist

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twee pop

>>69357838
lol

I wonder how much of the 'nu-male' thing can be blamed on the whole 'twee' element of indie music disseminating across culture? Probably part of a larger symptom though. Like, gaming makes men just as soft, in other ways.

>>69357818
I just want to lie down in that forest and never move again.

>>69357905
i wasnt joking you fucking retard

What about what music conservative yuppies listened to in the 80s? They're a different, outmoded type of conservative, but what would have Trump listened to back then?

Phil Collins and smooth jazz? Robert Palmer? ZZ Top?

>>69357955
Well, then you're absolutely clueless. Twee is a completely 'progressive' genre.

Yes, progressives have long actually had 'reactionary' symptoms to the actual aesthetic qualities to their music at time: folkiness, bucolic, nostalgic, etc, but twee for example also kind of questions natural gender roles and poses a 'weak' male image. I guess you could associate it also with a lovelorn Romantic male image, which goes back to Romanticism, which is probably more Reactionary...

One thing to realize of course is that there isn't any totally 'left' or 'right' anything. 'Romantic' impulses, for instance, are kind of a reactionary-liberal, traditionalist-revolutionary hybrid.

Most music and art aesthetics are a hybrid of things that could be seen as either.

>>69358015
twee pop (some of it)

>>69358111
What would be some examples of reactionary twee pop then?

Hymns
Mountain Music
Bluegrass
Honkey Tonk
Bakersfield Sound

>>69358217
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvnRPCmfndk

It's mistaken probably to read 'old-timey' or folky as essentially conservative in a strictly political sense, or new/now/fresh, or futuristic/modern/contemporary as progressive in a political sense.

Traditional folk and indigenous music was definitely traditionalist, but people in contemporary times with 'progressive' values have often preferred older, nostalgic sounds (or older 'authentic' folk or country) while 'conservative' people have embraced [actual] country that sounds quiet contemporary and new.

Also, remember that Futurism (Italian, or the English version 'Vorticism') were FASCIST movements.

Furthermore, other early modern innovations in art were coming from the idea of the genius artist, which came from the (very reactionary) Romantic movement that started moving towards innovation as a product of genius.

Even National Socialism was as futuristic (in its own way) as it was 'volkish'.

My point being that there is really no way to graft ideas of 'progressivism' or 'conservatism' in aesthetics onto 'progressivism' or 'conservatism' in politics... and there's nothing necessarily even aesthetically 'progressive' about being 'futuristic'... one reason being that there are unoriginal ways to be 'futuristic', while original or fresh or vital ways to be 'folky' or 'nostalgic'. And needless to say, being 'politically progressive' doesn't mean you make fresh or innovative music.

Which is why the list of 'Reactionary'-associated styles above have a lot of folk / country listed but a lot of really futuristic styles (Gabber, Industrial) too.

>>69357838
Twee pop isn't even a real genre

>>69357818
>Vaporwave
Boy stop.

>Jumpstyle
You can have that. It's yours. Enjoy it.

>>69357837
This
When will people stop replying to obvious political baits?

>>69357818
>reactionary
as in will be irrelevant soon
the world is spinning too fast


also name 1 (one) nationalist neofolk album

>>69357818
That's basically all I found, too bad most of it isn't very good.

But the reactionary position is to separate music from politics anyway.

>>69357818
>So far I have:
>Classical
>Romantic
>Folk (the actual traditional stuff)
>Religious Music
omg lol

>>69357818

>Romantic Nationalist

kekking at your existence right now

>>69359796
Ghengis Khan was a Romantic Nationalist.

>>69358397
Futurism sort of existed before fascism became codified. Whilst there ended up being a lot of overlap, it's misleading to say that Italian futurism was fascist.
Farinetti, the guy who founded the movement, had to compromise heavily upon his artistic ideals to keep futurism palatable to the regime.

But yeah, good post otherwise.